Sam Lowry said:I guess so…I had no idea he was European.whiterock said:I didn't know Genghis Khan invented democracy.Sam Lowry said:Don't follow the same rabbit trail that so many here do. Europe had monarchy for a long time, but it didn't have the Holocaust until democracy came along.Redbrickbear said:Sam Lowry said:No, the relationship was mostly harmonious under the monarchy.Redbrickbear said:Sam Lowry said:Rwanda is a good example of violence rooted in Western colonialism. The Germans and Belgians divided Rwandans into artificial "races" and indoctrinated them with hatred for each other, much like the US has done to Ukraine. The ultra-right Ukrainian nationalists actually believe they are racially superior to the Russian "orcs."ATL Bear said:Rwanda, Eastern Chad during the 2nd Sudan War, Angola during the Congo Wars. That's where I saw true evil up close. And if you were in Liberia during some of Charles Taylor's madness you should have a better perspective than what you're throwing around.Assassin said:
I've worked all over the world, including Haiti, Jamaica during the revolution and Monrovia, Liberia. Yes, I've seen evil. And I am not the one that said Putin was the "epitome of evil". Liberals are MUCH worse. 60 million babies that never committed a single sin... all with their skulls crushed
That violence was there long before
Its a classic case of post 1960s social science to try and blame the Westerners for the violence and discrimination already present in the global south.
The Hutu and Tutsi has already existed as distinct groups long before the Belgians showed up
[The Twa were traditionally forest dwelling people, and were the original inhabitants of Rwanda. They already a marginalized group within Rwandan society.
Until 1895 an independent Tutsi monarchy ruled the nation, implementing increasingly anti-Hutu policies. In 1895 the country became a German province, and after the end of the World War One Belgium took control of Rwanda under a League of Nations mandate. The Belgians initially relied on the traditional hierarchy and social structures including leaving the Tutsi King, who was recognized by both Hutus and Tutsis, to run the country
[Rwabugiri conquered several smaller states, expanded the kingdom west and north, and initiated administrative reforms; these included uhuhake, in which Tutsi patrons ceded cattle, and therefore privileged status, to Hutu or Tutsi clients in exchange for economic and personal service, and uburetwa, a corvee system in which Hutu were forced to work for Tutsi chiefs]
[The Belgians viewed the Tutsi minority as superior, and favored Tutsi for leadership positions]
The Belgians literally riled on group differences and policies of who would be in leadership that existed long before they were there
Yea I am sure that forced labor system under a absolute monarchy was very harmonious
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