Irony, thy name is Sam the Russian cuck.Sam Lowry said:
4% GDP growth obviously isn't "near zero."
I think you're just churning out as much propaganda as you can now in hopes that something or anything will distract from Kyiv's ongoing retreat.
Why Are We in Ukraine?
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You can spell it however you want, but they're still taking the L.Bear8084 said:Irony, thy name is Sam the Russian cuck.Sam Lowry said:
4% GDP growth obviously isn't "near zero."
I think you're just churning out as much propaganda as you can now in hopes that something or anything will distract from Kyiv's ongoing retreat.
Sam Lowry said:You can spell it however you want, but they're still taking the L.Bear8084 said:Irony, thy name is Sam the Russian cuck.Sam Lowry said:
4% GDP growth obviously isn't "near zero."
I think you're just churning out as much propaganda as you can now in hopes that something or anything will distract from Kyiv's ongoing retreat.
It's the correct spelling, Putin **********. And your propaganda pedos have been saying that for 3 years.
Keep cheering those Nazis. I don't know why, but you do you.Bear8084 said:Sam Lowry said:You can spell it however you want, but they're still taking the L.Bear8084 said:Irony, thy name is Sam the Russian cuck.Sam Lowry said:
4% GDP growth obviously isn't "near zero."
I think you're just churning out as much propaganda as you can now in hopes that something or anything will distract from Kyiv's ongoing retreat.
It's the correct spelling, Putin **********. And your propaganda pedos have been saying that for 3 years.
Sam Lowry said:Keep cheering those Nazis. I don't know why, but you do you.Bear8084 said:Sam Lowry said:You can spell it however you want, but they're still taking the L.Bear8084 said:Irony, thy name is Sam the Russian cuck.Sam Lowry said:
4% GDP growth obviously isn't "near zero."
I think you're just churning out as much propaganda as you can now in hopes that something or anything will distract from Kyiv's ongoing retreat.
It's the correct spelling, Putin **********. And your propaganda pedos have been saying that for 3 years.
Like I said about the propaganda....Keep sucking off the Russians, and the Chinese, and the Mullahs....
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
Mike Waltz, who Trump just picked as National Security Adviser, has explained his vision for how to end the Ukraine war:
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) November 12, 2024
- Ramp up sanctions on Russia
- "Take the handcuffs off" Ukraine, by allowing them to strike further inside Russia pic.twitter.com/RaTurnomj9
It’s really funny how so many people who want a more restrained foreign policy convinced themselves that Trump was on their side. They were so desperate for anti-woke/anti-war to be the Trumpist coalition that they completely ignored all empirical evidence.
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) November 12, 2024
trey3216 said:
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Sadly true….
Looks like Trump does not intent to upset the DC consensus on foreign policy
**** me…..
Here is Donald Trump's incoming National Security Adviser, Congressman Mike Waltz, saying "I think we're in for a long haul" about the War in Afghanistan.
— Franklin (@franklinisbored) November 12, 2024
He said this in 2017 shortly after the beginning of the Trump Administration, and before he entered Congress. pic.twitter.com/ZQ1y0U7AoP
President Trump’s new National Security Advisor Mike Waltz says pulling troops out of the Middle East is naive, we must stay on the offensive.
— Trumpcel (@trumpcel) November 12, 2024
“Whether it’s in Iran, Iraq, or Syria we must stay of the offensive or else we’ll be under attack at home.” pic.twitter.com/jF4Xe4Cuz0
Rep. Mike Waltz, who is the favorite to become Trump’s next Secretary of Defense, is a former Dick Cheney advisor who supports more American troops in the Middle East as well as direct military strikes against Iran.
— Trumpcel (@trumpcel) November 11, 2024
NeoCon war mongers like this should have no place in the Trump… pic.twitter.com/5vH3Bi0LRk
Unfortunate.
You might want to take another look at Uruguay, Kaibear.
The Whiterocks of the world may end up blowing it up through their miscalculations and hubris.
Perhaps it was naive for me to think that the American experiment wasn't so far gone that it was unsalvageable.
The next objective data point is the majority leader eleciton on Wednesday. If it's Thune or Cornyn, that will tell you more.
You might want to take another look at Uruguay, Kaibear.
The Whiterocks of the world may end up blowing it up through their miscalculations and hubris.
Perhaps it was naive for me to think that the American experiment wasn't so far gone that it was unsalvageable.
The next objective data point is the majority leader eleciton on Wednesday. If it's Thune or Cornyn, that will tell you more.
Trey is wishfully thinking that we're wishfully thinking. We don't know what Trump's going to do. We do know a lot of ideas have been floated in the last few days that weren't true.Redbrickbear said:trey3216 said:
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Sadly true….
Looks like Trump does not intent to upset the DC consensus on foreign policy
Sam Lowry said:He's wishfully thinking we're wishfully thinking. We don't know what Trump's going to do. We do know a lot of ideas have been floated in the last few days that weren't true.Redbrickbear said:trey3216 said:
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Sadly true….
Looks like Trump does not intent to upset the DC consensus on foreign policy
With Mike Waltz in there I think we know exactly what is gonna happen (more of the same)
But I will be praying tonight that you are right and I am wrong
not wishfully thinking…just reading the tea leaves that I told y'all for months.Sam Lowry said:Trey is wishfully thinking that we're wishfully thinking. We don't know what Trump's going to do. We do know a lot of ideas have been floated in the last few days that weren't true.Redbrickbear said:trey3216 said:
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Sadly true….
Looks like Trump does not intent to upset the DC consensus on foreign policy
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
I don't know that Waltz has been selected for anything. We heard that Trump was looking at Pompeo and Haley, and that turned out not to be true. I think a lot of these "sources" are people jockeying for position, applying pressure, or trying to set parameters for debate.Redbrickbear said:Sam Lowry said:He's wishfully thinking we're wishfully thinking. We don't know what Trump's going to do. We do know a lot of ideas have been floated in the last few days that weren't true.Redbrickbear said:trey3216 said:
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Sadly true….
Looks like Trump does not intent to upset the DC consensus on foreign policy
With Mike Waltz in there I think we know exactly what is gonna happen (more of the same)
But I will be praying tonight that you are right and I am wrong
It's quite possible that Trump will be a dumbass and allow his administration to be infested with neocons again. That's one reason I didn't vote for him. I've heard that Don Jr. is dead set against that and is having a lot of influence. He apparently was the one who got JD Vance on the ticket. We shall see.
trey3216 said:
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Trump expected to tap US Senator Marco Rubio for secretary of state, sources say
"Rubio, 53, has said in recent interviews that Ukraine needs to seek a negotiated settlement with Russia rather than focus on regaining all territory that Russia has taken in the last decade. He was also one of 15 Republican senators to vote against a $95 billion military aid package for Ukraine, passed in April.
While Rubio was far from the most isolationist option, his likely selection nonetheless underlines a broad shift in Republican foreign policy views under Trump.
Once the party of hawks who advocated military intervention and a muscular foreign policy, most of Trump's allies now preach restraint, particularly in Europe, where many Republicans complain U.S. allies are not paying their fair share on defense.
"I'm not on Russia's side but unfortunately the reality of it is that the way the war in Ukraine is going to end is with a negotiated settlement," Rubio told NBC in September."
Fortunately the Ukraine war no longer depends on anything America can or can't do.trey3216 said:not wishfully thinking…just reading the tea leaves that I told y'all for months.Sam Lowry said:Trey is wishfully thinking that we're wishfully thinking. We don't know what Trump's going to do. We do know a lot of ideas have been floated in the last few days that weren't true.Redbrickbear said:trey3216 said:
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Sadly true….
Looks like Trump does not intent to upset the DC consensus on foreign policy
As long as Trump doesn't doesn't go full Biden3216, which I doubt he will, the war won't escalate and we should be fine.
Sam Lowry said:Fortunately the Ukraine war no longer depends on anything America can or can't do.trey3216 said:not wishfully thinking…just reading the tea leaves that I told y'all for months.Sam Lowry said:Trey is wishfully thinking that we're wishfully thinking. We don't know what Trump's going to do. We do know a lot of ideas have been floated in the last few days that weren't true.Redbrickbear said:trey3216 said:
Rubio for Secretary of State says my initial thoughts are probably closer to the truth than the Sam's and BarBearians.
Sadly true….
Looks like Trump does not intent to upset the DC consensus on foreign policy
As long as Trump doesn't doesn't go full Biden3216, which I doubt he will, the war won't escalate and we should be fine.
Again, like I said with the propaganda.
“I will make this promise to you today, I will do whatever it takes....Donald Trump, a con artist, will never get control of this party...We cannot allow a con artist to get access to the nuclear codes of the United States of America.”
— Natalie F Danelishen (@Chesschick01) November 12, 2024
-Marco Rubio in 2016 pic.twitter.com/8DGHz3O6Pv
Redbrickbear said:Mike Waltz, who Trump just picked as National Security Adviser, has explained his vision for how to end the Ukraine war:
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) November 12, 2024
- Ramp up sanctions on Russia
- "Take the handcuffs off" Ukraine, by allowing them to strike further inside Russia pic.twitter.com/RaTurnomj9It’s really funny how so many people who want a more restrained foreign policy convinced themselves that Trump was on their side. They were so desperate for anti-woke/anti-war to be the Trumpist coalition that they completely ignored all empirical evidence.
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) November 12, 2024
Trump selects Mike Waltz as national security adviser, sources say
"On Ukraine, Waltz has said his views have evolved. After Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, he called for the Biden administration to provide more weapons to Kyiv to help them push back Russian forces.
But during an event last month, Waltz said there had to be a reassessment of the United States' aims in Ukraine.
"Is it in America's interest, are we going to put in the time, the treasure, the resources that we need in the Pacific right now badly?" Waltz asked."
https://gopforukraine.com/legislator/michael-waltz/
The real irony is it's the war spending that's generating the only growth and simultaneously pushing their interest rates and inflation higher.Sam Lowry said:
4% GDP growth obviously isn't "near zero."
I think you're just churning out as much propaganda as you can now in hopes that something or anything will distract from Kiev's ongoing retreat.
I think that's expected. They are struggling to control inflation, but they seem to be managing it.ATL Bear said:The real irony is it's the war spending that's generating the only growth and simultaneously pushing their interest rates and inflation higher.Sam Lowry said:
4% GDP growth obviously isn't "near zero."
I think you're just churning out as much propaganda as you can now in hopes that something or anything will distract from Kiev's ongoing retreat.
Some of you who were hoping for surrender Trump are going to be disappointed.
Amendment 21 to H.R. 2670, the National Defense Authorization Act: This amendment, introduced by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, would have stricken $300 million of assistance for Ukraine from the National Defense Authorization Act. It failed by a vote of 89-341.
Amendment 22 to H.R. 2670, the National Defense Authorization Act: This amendment, introduced by Rep. Matt Gaetz, would have prohibited all security assistance for Ukraine. It failed by a vote of 70-358.
Both MTG and Matt Gaetz have advised Trump throughout his campaign and were with him on election night.
US aid to Ukraine is over.
US aid to Israel is a different story. I hope Trump will reign them in but Marco Rubio as Secretary of State and Elise Stefanik as UN Ambassador is not a good sign.
Amendment 22 to H.R. 2670, the National Defense Authorization Act: This amendment, introduced by Rep. Matt Gaetz, would have prohibited all security assistance for Ukraine. It failed by a vote of 70-358.
Both MTG and Matt Gaetz have advised Trump throughout his campaign and were with him on election night.
US aid to Ukraine is over.
US aid to Israel is a different story. I hope Trump will reign them in but Marco Rubio as Secretary of State and Elise Stefanik as UN Ambassador is not a good sign.
Well, you can't trust Russian released economic numbers anymore than you can the Chinese. One thing's for sure, it's hard for the average Russian right now.Sam Lowry said:I think that's expected. They are struggling to control inflation, but they seem to be managing it.ATL Bear said:The real irony is it's the war spending that's generating the only growth and simultaneously pushing their interest rates and inflation higher.Sam Lowry said:
4% GDP growth obviously isn't "near zero."
I think you're just churning out as much propaganda as you can now in hopes that something or anything will distract from Kiev's ongoing retreat.
ATL Bear said:
Some of you who were hoping for surrender Trump are going to be disappointed.
No.
You will be.
Everything is pointing to Trump ending US support for Ukraine and that is a good thing!
Wrong. Even if he decides to negotiate a settlement of the war, the aid just switches from military to economic and humanitarian.The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:
Some of you who were hoping for surrender Trump are going to be disappointed.
No.
You will be.
Everything is pointing to Trump ending US support for Ukraine and that is a good thing!
Tulsi Gabbard threw her lot in with Trump, portraying him as the anti-war candidate. Gabbard denounced Marco Rubio as part of the “neocon warmongering establishment” months ago, and now Trump has appointed him as Secretary of State, a position she sought. pic.twitter.com/nB2M0AbbO6
— Dan Cohen (@dancohen3000) November 12, 2024
ATL Bear said:Wrong. Even if he decides to negotiate a settlement of the war, the aid just switches from military to economic and humanitarian.The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:
Some of you who were hoping for surrender Trump are going to be disappointed.
No.
You will be.
Everything is pointing to Trump ending US support for Ukraine and that is a good thing!
I dont see that happening without the Europeans putting in an equal amount of support... which they wont.
Trump can't negotiate a settlement without agreeing to Russia's most recent demands. Not escalating is enough.
By the way, this interview wasn't from the heady days of early 2022, when both parties were neck-deep in war fervor. It was from November 4, 2024 -- the day before the election pic.twitter.com/R7ctmdvvcy
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) November 12, 2024
The war has been lost for almost a year.
Money can't resurrect dead soldiers.
Money can't resurrect dead soldiers.
Mike Waltz, Trump's new pick for National Security Adviser, has been an early and passionate critic of Biden's policy on Ukraine. His criticism is that Biden hasn't escalated the war quickly and aggressively enough. From my interview with him in July 2022: https://t.co/f3desRUS6Z pic.twitter.com/6h46XbwXvc
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) November 12, 2024
Incoming U.S. National Security Advisor Mike Waltz on April 5th, 2022:
— Igor Sushko (@igorsushko) November 12, 2024
Putin will only stop when he meets cold hard steel and military might. We must provide sophisticated weapons to Ukraine.
We must support Zelensky in an effort to WIN & drive Russia completely out of Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/JIXNtaaSVj
Mike Waltz is John Bolton 2.0.
— Lauren Witzke (@LaurenWitzkeDE) November 12, 2024
This ghoul is a massive warmonger who pressed to continue the war on terror and get even more deeply involved in Ukraine.
We should be getting America First patriots like Douglas Macgregor, not Dick Cheney’s protege. pic.twitter.com/Xm9220X1wQ
Look what Elon just tweeted:
Interesting pic.twitter.com/61G9RKibAY
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 12, 2024