AG Ken Paxton on glide path to impeachment

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Osodecentx
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

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Crazy
you folks who were certain that you had Paxton dead to rights on multiple felonies should be leading the charge to replace Phelan, who from start to finish manifestly botched what should have been a very easy, straightforward job. I mean, Paxton is so obviously a crook, and all his supporters are religious rubes, right? So what kind of knucklehead does it take to have failed at something that should have been so easy?

(or, maybe the reason Phelan is incompetent is because he cracked off prematurely on a half-baked process that was devoid of cold, hard evidence and full of procedural deficiencies, then hired the a team of attorneys whose effort fell well short of their reputations....or perhaps they just had a terrible case to argue. Either way, it all goes back to Phelan's utter lack of political acumen, does it not?)

Phelan filled his nest with excrement, stuck candles in it, and called it a cake.
The Senate threw it back in his face, so now he's whining.
The dude does not even rise to the level of bush league (no pun intended).
He gotta go.
Oh look! Democrats trying to flush a POS while you defend Paxton/Trump to the bitter end.

Groundswell of Democrats Builds Calling on Menendez to Resign
The New Jersey Democrat's indictment last week initially prompted only a handful of calls from within his party for his exit. But on Tuesday, the dam broke, particularly among colleagues facing re-election next year.
A stampede of Senate Democrats led by some of the party's most endangered incumbents rushed forward on Tuesday calling for Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey to resign, a day after he defiantly vowed to fight federal corruption charges and predicted he would be exonerated.
Even as Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the majority leader, defended Mr. Menendez as a "dedicated public servant" and refused to publicly move to push him out, the drumbeat for Mr. Menendez to step down grew from within his ranks. That left Mr. Schumer in a difficult position, caught between his role as the leader and defender of all Senate Democrats and the political imperative of cutting loose a member of his caucus who had become a political liability in an already difficult slog to keep the party's Senate majority.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/us/politics/democrats-menendez-senate.html
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Crazy
you folks who were certain that you had Paxton dead to rights on multiple felonies should be leading the charge to replace Phelan, who from start to finish manifestly botched what should have been a very easy, straightforward job. I mean, Paxton is so obviously a crook, and all his supporters are religious rubes, right? So what kind of knucklehead does it take to have failed at something that should have been so easy?

(or, maybe the reason Phelan is incompetent is because he cracked off prematurely on a half-baked process that was devoid of cold, hard evidence and full of procedural deficiencies, then hired the a team of attorneys whose effort fell well short of their reputations....or perhaps they just had a terrible case to argue. Either way, it all goes back to Phelan's utter lack of political acumen, does it not?)

Phelan filled his nest with excrement, stuck candles in it, and called it a cake.
The Senate threw it back in his face, so now he's whining.
The dude does not even rise to the level of bush league (no pun intended).
He gotta go.





Senate got to 20 votes to convict, 1 vote shy .
75% of Republican House members voted to impeach.

The criminal justice system isn't through with Paxton. I hear Nate Paul is in negotiations with the feds & the mistress will be a witness for the prosecution
LOL got 20 votes in caucus, allegedly (not hardly.)

Let the criminal justice system do its thing to Paxton. If/when he's convicted before he leaves office, the vote to impeach and convict will be unanimous. I will support it. Until then, you can scheme with Democrats and/or engage in all the self-flagellation you want to show everyone how much better of a person you are than Republicans. It's not accomplishing very much at all, except to show the people doing actual work who to steer clear of.

By the way, have Democrats started their impeachment of Sen. Menendez yet?

When Paxton is convicted, will you apologize to Phelan?

Regarding Menendez, he is as big of a disgrace as Paxton (but without the Bible verses). He should resign today.
Absolutely not. To the extent you believe Paxton is guilty, you should be outraged at Phelan's incompetence. His efforts to impeach Paxton will be textbook "how not to" for all future impeachments. Phelan shouldn't have done any impeachment at all until Paxton was convicted. Such would have at that point been pro-forma, uncontentious. By jumping the gun, he badly divided the party. That's what GOP moderates do.....divide the party, constantly warring with the conservative base rather than Democrats.

the reported details on Menendez are indeed damning. But there were damning allegations against him before, and he beat them. Doesn't sound like it will be easy this time, but then, there is a lot we don't yet know. In the meantime, we can use the stuff we know to beat up on Democrats and their "culture of corruption." It is politics, you know. The question for you is, are you going to continue to stew over Paxton, or are you going to launch into Menendez as earnestly as you did Paxton? (I'm guessing not, because you only seem to have arrows for conservatives).

Your sensibilities here are not at all sensible. You would have a political system in which events are dictated by allegations alone, where the seriousness of the charges matter more than the facts.

Due process matters, even for politicians.
Very swampy of you.
Speaking of culture of corruption. The Paxton culture of corruption follows the Trump playbook. Now you defend Menendez using the same playbook. How do y'all go after Menendez when you defend Paxton/Trump? How do you ask for time for Paxton due process & in the next sentence condemn Hunter & Joe? You're tying yourself in knots defending corruption

Phelan and 75% of House members took a stand against corruption.

Your war is Populism (Trumpism) vs Conservatism.

Geez, dude. You're jabbering nonsense. Seems like only a few weeks ago you called me "the establishment." Hint: consistency in messaging is a force multiplier.

Phelan's blunder is going to cost him in special session. He hornswiggled a lot of his caucus to go along with the impeachment, setting them up for contentious primary challenges. That gives Abbott a lot of extra leverage in the pending special session in school choice. A number of reps on the fence on the issue are being told a "yes" vote on school choice as a get out of jail card on their impeachment vote. I discussed that last weekend with an Austin consultant, and it is the primary cudgel being used by Abbott and Cruz.

That'll be 0-2 for Phelan on issues of intense concern to his Democrat backers.
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No Trumper ever here but wouldn't that be the fault of the lender who failed due diligence?
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Osodecentx said:

Well, Trump has had due process. What do y'all think

NEW YORK (AP) A judge has ruled that Donald Trump committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House.
Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling Tuesday in a civil lawsuit brought by New York's attorney general, found that the former president and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing financing.

The decision, days before the start of a non-jury trial in Attorney General Letitia James' lawsuit, is the strongest repudiation yet of Trump's carefully coiffed image as a wealthy and shrewd real estate mogul turned political powerhouse.
Beyond mere bragging about his riches, Trump, his company and key executives repeatedly lied about them on his annual financial statements, reaping rewards such as favorable loan terms and lower insurance premiums, Engoron found.


Wow. Congratulations.
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Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

You are a sad, bitter little man, Frank.


Sad and little no. Confess to being bitter that morons keep chipping away at the country I love by eroding the public's faith in elections.


Oh, get over yourself. Democrats have been eroding the public's faith in elections for years. After Bush was elected, you liberals cried that Bush was "selected" not elected. After Trump was elected, not only did you wack jobs try to call him an illegitimate president, but people from the democrats left created a fake dossier to push a fake Russian collusion hoax.

The fact that the FBI pressured (and paid) social media to squash a legitimate news story about the democrat candidate and then falsely label it as disinformation to influence an election, is fraudulent in and of itself.

So, get off your high horse, look in the mirror and you'll see the biggest moron that supports chipping away at the country you claim "to love".
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Crazy
you folks who were certain that you had Paxton dead to rights on multiple felonies should be leading the charge to replace Phelan, who from start to finish manifestly botched what should have been a very easy, straightforward job. I mean, Paxton is so obviously a crook, and all his supporters are religious rubes, right? So what kind of knucklehead does it take to have failed at something that should have been so easy?

(or, maybe the reason Phelan is incompetent is because he cracked off prematurely on a half-baked process that was devoid of cold, hard evidence and full of procedural deficiencies, then hired the a team of attorneys whose effort fell well short of their reputations....or perhaps they just had a terrible case to argue. Either way, it all goes back to Phelan's utter lack of political acumen, does it not?)

Phelan filled his nest with excrement, stuck candles in it, and called it a cake.
The Senate threw it back in his face, so now he's whining.
The dude does not even rise to the level of bush league (no pun intended).
He gotta go.





Senate got to 20 votes to convict, 1 vote shy .
75% of Republican House members voted to impeach.

The criminal justice system isn't through with Paxton. I hear Nate Paul is in negotiations with the feds & the mistress will be a witness for the prosecution
LOL got 20 votes in caucus, allegedly (not hardly.)

Let the criminal justice system do its thing to Paxton. If/when he's convicted before he leaves office, the vote to impeach and convict will be unanimous. I will support it. Until then, you can scheme with Democrats and/or engage in all the self-flagellation you want to show everyone how much better of a person you are than Republicans. It's not accomplishing very much at all, except to show the people doing actual work who to steer clear of.

By the way, have Democrats started their impeachment of Sen. Menendez yet?

When Paxton is convicted, will you apologize to Phelan?

Regarding Menendez, he is as big of a disgrace as Paxton (but without the Bible verses). He should resign today.
Absolutely not. To the extent you believe Paxton is guilty, you should be outraged at Phelan's incompetence. His efforts to impeach Paxton will be textbook "how not to" for all future impeachments. Phelan shouldn't have done any impeachment at all until Paxton was convicted. Such would have at that point been pro-forma, uncontentious. By jumping the gun, he badly divided the party. That's what GOP moderates do.....divide the party, constantly warring with the conservative base rather than Democrats.

the reported details on Menendez are indeed damning. But there were damning allegations against him before, and he beat them. Doesn't sound like it will be easy this time, but then, there is a lot we don't yet know. In the meantime, we can use the stuff we know to beat up on Democrats and their "culture of corruption." It is politics, you know. The question for you is, are you going to continue to stew over Paxton, or are you going to launch into Menendez as earnestly as you did Paxton? (I'm guessing not, because you only seem to have arrows for conservatives).

Your sensibilities here are not at all sensible. You would have a political system in which events are dictated by allegations alone, where the seriousness of the charges matter more than the facts.

Due process matters, even for politicians.
Very swampy of you.
Speaking of culture of corruption. The Paxton culture of corruption follows the Trump playbook. Now you defend Menendez using the same playbook. How do y'all go after Menendez when you defend Paxton/Trump? How do you ask for time for Paxton due process & in the next sentence condemn Hunter & Joe? You're tying yourself in knots defending corruption

Phelan and 75% of House members took a stand against corruption.

Your war is Populism (Trumpism) vs Conservatism.

Geez, dude. You're jabbering nonsense. Seems like only a few weeks ago you called me "the establishment." Hint: consistency in messaging is a force multiplier.

Phelan's blunder is going to cost him in special session. He hornswiggled a lot of his caucus to go along with the impeachment, setting them up for contentious primary challenges. That gives Abbott a lot of extra leverage in the pending special session in school choice. A number of reps on the fence on the issue are being told a "yes" vote on school choice as a get out of jail card on their impeachment vote. I discussed that last weekend with an Austin consultant, and it is the primary cudgel being used by Abbott and Cruz.

That'll be 0-2 for Phelan on issues of intense concern to his Democrat backers.


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
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But you're good with Phelan being close buddies with Democrats.

Seems to me you should check your own candidates for swampiness.
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Oldbear83 said:

But you're good with Phelan being close buddies with Democrats.

Seems to me you should check your own candidates for swampiness.

Until they prove Phelan belongs to the Paxton Church of Crooks I'll stick with Phelan. I don't give a rats what party they belong to as long as they are basically honest.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Oldbear83 said:

But you're good with Phelan being close buddies with Democrats.

Seems to me you should check your own candidates for swampiness.

Until they prove Phelan belongs to the Paxton Church of Crooks I'll stick with Phelan. I don't give a rats what party they belong to as long as they are basically honest.
"basically honest' pretty much rules out Democrats.
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Crazy
you folks who were certain that you had Paxton dead to rights on multiple felonies should be leading the charge to replace Phelan, who from start to finish manifestly botched what should have been a very easy, straightforward job. I mean, Paxton is so obviously a crook, and all his supporters are religious rubes, right? So what kind of knucklehead does it take to have failed at something that should have been so easy?

(or, maybe the reason Phelan is incompetent is because he cracked off prematurely on a half-baked process that was devoid of cold, hard evidence and full of procedural deficiencies, then hired the a team of attorneys whose effort fell well short of their reputations....or perhaps they just had a terrible case to argue. Either way, it all goes back to Phelan's utter lack of political acumen, does it not?)

Phelan filled his nest with excrement, stuck candles in it, and called it a cake.
The Senate threw it back in his face, so now he's whining.
The dude does not even rise to the level of bush league (no pun intended).
He gotta go.





Senate got to 20 votes to convict, 1 vote shy .
75% of Republican House members voted to impeach.

The criminal justice system isn't through with Paxton. I hear Nate Paul is in negotiations with the feds & the mistress will be a witness for the prosecution
LOL got 20 votes in caucus, allegedly (not hardly.)

Let the criminal justice system do its thing to Paxton. If/when he's convicted before he leaves office, the vote to impeach and convict will be unanimous. I will support it. Until then, you can scheme with Democrats and/or engage in all the self-flagellation you want to show everyone how much better of a person you are than Republicans. It's not accomplishing very much at all, except to show the people doing actual work who to steer clear of.

By the way, have Democrats started their impeachment of Sen. Menendez yet?

When Paxton is convicted, will you apologize to Phelan?

Regarding Menendez, he is as big of a disgrace as Paxton (but without the Bible verses). He should resign today.
Absolutely not. To the extent you believe Paxton is guilty, you should be outraged at Phelan's incompetence. His efforts to impeach Paxton will be textbook "how not to" for all future impeachments. Phelan shouldn't have done any impeachment at all until Paxton was convicted. Such would have at that point been pro-forma, uncontentious. By jumping the gun, he badly divided the party. That's what GOP moderates do.....divide the party, constantly warring with the conservative base rather than Democrats.

the reported details on Menendez are indeed damning. But there were damning allegations against him before, and he beat them. Doesn't sound like it will be easy this time, but then, there is a lot we don't yet know. In the meantime, we can use the stuff we know to beat up on Democrats and their "culture of corruption." It is politics, you know. The question for you is, are you going to continue to stew over Paxton, or are you going to launch into Menendez as earnestly as you did Paxton? (I'm guessing not, because you only seem to have arrows for conservatives).

Your sensibilities here are not at all sensible. You would have a political system in which events are dictated by allegations alone, where the seriousness of the charges matter more than the facts.

Due process matters, even for politicians.
Very swampy of you.
Speaking of culture of corruption. The Paxton culture of corruption follows the Trump playbook. Now you defend Menendez using the same playbook. How do y'all go after Menendez when you defend Paxton/Trump? How do you ask for time for Paxton due process & in the next sentence condemn Hunter & Joe? You're tying yourself in knots defending corruption

Phelan and 75% of House members took a stand against corruption.

Your war is Populism (Trumpism) vs Conservatism.

Geez, dude. You're jabbering nonsense. Seems like only a few weeks ago you called me "the establishment." Hint: consistency in messaging is a force multiplier.

Phelan's blunder is going to cost him in special session. He hornswiggled a lot of his caucus to go along with the impeachment, setting them up for contentious primary challenges. That gives Abbott a lot of extra leverage in the pending special session in school choice. A number of reps on the fence on the issue are being told a "yes" vote on school choice as a get out of jail card on their impeachment vote. I discussed that last weekend with an Austin consultant, and it is the primary cudgel being used by Abbott and Cruz.

That'll be 0-2 for Phelan on issues of intense concern to his Democrat backers.


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Crazy
you folks who were certain that you had Paxton dead to rights on multiple felonies should be leading the charge to replace Phelan, who from start to finish manifestly botched what should have been a very easy, straightforward job. I mean, Paxton is so obviously a crook, and all his supporters are religious rubes, right? So what kind of knucklehead does it take to have failed at something that should have been so easy?

(or, maybe the reason Phelan is incompetent is because he cracked off prematurely on a half-baked process that was devoid of cold, hard evidence and full of procedural deficiencies, then hired the a team of attorneys whose effort fell well short of their reputations....or perhaps they just had a terrible case to argue. Either way, it all goes back to Phelan's utter lack of political acumen, does it not?)

Phelan filled his nest with excrement, stuck candles in it, and called it a cake.
The Senate threw it back in his face, so now he's whining.
The dude does not even rise to the level of bush league (no pun intended).
He gotta go.





Senate got to 20 votes to convict, 1 vote shy .
75% of Republican House members voted to impeach.

The criminal justice system isn't through with Paxton. I hear Nate Paul is in negotiations with the feds & the mistress will be a witness for the prosecution
LOL got 20 votes in caucus, allegedly (not hardly.)

Let the criminal justice system do its thing to Paxton. If/when he's convicted before he leaves office, the vote to impeach and convict will be unanimous. I will support it. Until then, you can scheme with Democrats and/or engage in all the self-flagellation you want to show everyone how much better of a person you are than Republicans. It's not accomplishing very much at all, except to show the people doing actual work who to steer clear of.

By the way, have Democrats started their impeachment of Sen. Menendez yet?

When Paxton is convicted, will you apologize to Phelan?

Regarding Menendez, he is as big of a disgrace as Paxton (but without the Bible verses). He should resign today.
Absolutely not. To the extent you believe Paxton is guilty, you should be outraged at Phelan's incompetence. His efforts to impeach Paxton will be textbook "how not to" for all future impeachments. Phelan shouldn't have done any impeachment at all until Paxton was convicted. Such would have at that point been pro-forma, uncontentious. By jumping the gun, he badly divided the party. That's what GOP moderates do.....divide the party, constantly warring with the conservative base rather than Democrats.

the reported details on Menendez are indeed damning. But there were damning allegations against him before, and he beat them. Doesn't sound like it will be easy this time, but then, there is a lot we don't yet know. In the meantime, we can use the stuff we know to beat up on Democrats and their "culture of corruption." It is politics, you know. The question for you is, are you going to continue to stew over Paxton, or are you going to launch into Menendez as earnestly as you did Paxton? (I'm guessing not, because you only seem to have arrows for conservatives).

Your sensibilities here are not at all sensible. You would have a political system in which events are dictated by allegations alone, where the seriousness of the charges matter more than the facts.

Due process matters, even for politicians.
Very swampy of you.
Speaking of culture of corruption. The Paxton culture of corruption follows the Trump playbook. Now you defend Menendez using the same playbook. How do y'all go after Menendez when you defend Paxton/Trump? How do you ask for time for Paxton due process & in the next sentence condemn Hunter & Joe? You're tying yourself in knots defending corruption

Phelan and 75% of House members took a stand against corruption.

Your war is Populism (Trumpism) vs Conservatism.

Geez, dude. You're jabbering nonsense. Seems like only a few weeks ago you called me "the establishment." Hint: consistency in messaging is a force multiplier.

Phelan's blunder is going to cost him in special session. He hornswiggled a lot of his caucus to go along with the impeachment, setting them up for contentious primary challenges. That gives Abbott a lot of extra leverage in the pending special session in school choice. A number of reps on the fence on the issue are being told a "yes" vote on school choice as a get out of jail card on their impeachment vote. I discussed that last weekend with an Austin consultant, and it is the primary cudgel being used by Abbott and Cruz.

That'll be 0-2 for Phelan on issues of intense concern to his Democrat backers.


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?


Populists are the Establishment in Texas
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




Crazy
you folks who were certain that you had Paxton dead to rights on multiple felonies should be leading the charge to replace Phelan, who from start to finish manifestly botched what should have been a very easy, straightforward job. I mean, Paxton is so obviously a crook, and all his supporters are religious rubes, right? So what kind of knucklehead does it take to have failed at something that should have been so easy?

(or, maybe the reason Phelan is incompetent is because he cracked off prematurely on a half-baked process that was devoid of cold, hard evidence and full of procedural deficiencies, then hired the a team of attorneys whose effort fell well short of their reputations....or perhaps they just had a terrible case to argue. Either way, it all goes back to Phelan's utter lack of political acumen, does it not?)

Phelan filled his nest with excrement, stuck candles in it, and called it a cake.
The Senate threw it back in his face, so now he's whining.
The dude does not even rise to the level of bush league (no pun intended).
He gotta go.





Senate got to 20 votes to convict, 1 vote shy .
75% of Republican House members voted to impeach.

The criminal justice system isn't through with Paxton. I hear Nate Paul is in negotiations with the feds & the mistress will be a witness for the prosecution
LOL got 20 votes in caucus, allegedly (not hardly.)

Let the criminal justice system do its thing to Paxton. If/when he's convicted before he leaves office, the vote to impeach and convict will be unanimous. I will support it. Until then, you can scheme with Democrats and/or engage in all the self-flagellation you want to show everyone how much better of a person you are than Republicans. It's not accomplishing very much at all, except to show the people doing actual work who to steer clear of.

By the way, have Democrats started their impeachment of Sen. Menendez yet?

When Paxton is convicted, will you apologize to Phelan?

Regarding Menendez, he is as big of a disgrace as Paxton (but without the Bible verses). He should resign today.
Absolutely not. To the extent you believe Paxton is guilty, you should be outraged at Phelan's incompetence. His efforts to impeach Paxton will be textbook "how not to" for all future impeachments. Phelan shouldn't have done any impeachment at all until Paxton was convicted. Such would have at that point been pro-forma, uncontentious. By jumping the gun, he badly divided the party. That's what GOP moderates do.....divide the party, constantly warring with the conservative base rather than Democrats.

the reported details on Menendez are indeed damning. But there were damning allegations against him before, and he beat them. Doesn't sound like it will be easy this time, but then, there is a lot we don't yet know. In the meantime, we can use the stuff we know to beat up on Democrats and their "culture of corruption." It is politics, you know. The question for you is, are you going to continue to stew over Paxton, or are you going to launch into Menendez as earnestly as you did Paxton? (I'm guessing not, because you only seem to have arrows for conservatives).

Your sensibilities here are not at all sensible. You would have a political system in which events are dictated by allegations alone, where the seriousness of the charges matter more than the facts.

Due process matters, even for politicians.
Very swampy of you.
Speaking of culture of corruption. The Paxton culture of corruption follows the Trump playbook. Now you defend Menendez using the same playbook. How do y'all go after Menendez when you defend Paxton/Trump? How do you ask for time for Paxton due process & in the next sentence condemn Hunter & Joe? You're tying yourself in knots defending corruption

Phelan and 75% of House members took a stand against corruption.

Your war is Populism (Trumpism) vs Conservatism.

Geez, dude. You're jabbering nonsense. Seems like only a few weeks ago you called me "the establishment." Hint: consistency in messaging is a force multiplier.

Phelan's blunder is going to cost him in special session. He hornswiggled a lot of his caucus to go along with the impeachment, setting them up for contentious primary challenges. That gives Abbott a lot of extra leverage in the pending special session in school choice. A number of reps on the fence on the issue are being told a "yes" vote on school choice as a get out of jail card on their impeachment vote. I discussed that last weekend with an Austin consultant, and it is the primary cudgel being used by Abbott and Cruz.

That'll be 0-2 for Phelan on issues of intense concern to his Democrat backers.


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?


Populists are the Establishment in Texas
LOL "....a card-carrying member of the populist establishment, with collectivist libertarian tendencies, a twinge of militant pacifism, and membership cards to the Scientific Luddite Union and the Global Flat Earth Society...."

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.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
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Star for using "Global Flat Earth"
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?
Trump is a populist warrior. He is not a Republican nor is he conservative. The Republican Party has no nominee in 2024. Only Populist vs Biden, or infantile vs insanity.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?
Trump is a populist warrior. He is not a Republican nor is he conservative. The Republican Party has no nominee in 2024. Only Populist vs Biden, or infantile vs insanity.
Trump is an elite in populist clothing....but he sells it very well
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whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?
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boognish_bear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?
Trump is a populist warrior. He is not a Republican nor is he conservative. The Republican Party has no nominee in 2024. Only Populist vs Biden, or infantile vs insanity.
Trump is an elite in populist clothing....but he sells it very well


Bro delivered on the Court tho.
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Stone cold sober. Maybe you should have a couple of strong ones and answer for your boy

Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
I still believe in probable cause through a court.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
I still believe in probable cause through a court.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?


You believe in due process? What a controversial position!
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
I still believe in probable cause through a court.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?


You believe in due process? What a controversial position!


Trump doesn't. Is that controversial?
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
I still believe in probable cause through a court.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?


You believe in due process? What a controversial position!


Trump doesn't. Is that controversial?


You are eaten up with Donald Trump. You should seek professional help.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
I still believe in probable cause through a court.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?


You believe in due process? What a controversial position!


Trump doesn't. Is that controversial?


You are eaten up with Donald Trump. You should seek professional help.
Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
Oldbear83
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
I still believe in probable cause through a court.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?


You believe in due process? What a controversial position!


Trump doesn't. Is that controversial?


You are eaten up with Donald Trump. You should seek professional help.
Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
Thus proving his point. There's no shame in addressing an obsession, Oso.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Stone cold sober. Maybe you should have a couple of strong ones and answer for your boy

Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?
Since you've gone totally irrational, why don't you throw in specters of nuclear weapons and genocidal holocausts for good reason?

And while you're at it, might wanna stock up on some of these products. You've got spittle all over you face.

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boognish_bear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?
Trump is a populist warrior. He is not a Republican nor is he conservative. The Republican Party has no nominee in 2024. Only Populist vs Biden, or infantile vs insanity.
Trump is an elite in populist clothing....but he sells it very well
The good ones understand you have to do that to win elections, from time to time. It's the nincompoops who think they're above such.
Wrecks Quan Dough
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whiterock said:

boognish_bear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?
Trump is a populist warrior. He is not a Republican nor is he conservative. The Republican Party has no nominee in 2024. Only Populist vs Biden, or infantile vs insanity.
Trump is an elite in populist clothing....but he sells it very well
The good ones understand you have to do that to win elections, from time to time. It's the nincompoops who think they're above such.


It is difficult to impose your values when your party is out of power. If your the GOP, you find it hard to impose your values even when you are in power.
Osodecentx
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Stone cold sober. Maybe you should have a couple of strong ones and answer for your boy

Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?
Since you've gone totally irrational, why don't you throw in specters of nuclear weapons and genocidal holocausts for good reason?
Do you think this is irrational? Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
Oldbear83
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Stone cold sober. Maybe you should have a couple of strong ones and answer for your boy

Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?
Since you've gone totally irrational, why don't you throw in specters of nuclear weapons and genocidal holocausts for good reason?
Do you think this is irrational? Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
Dude, if you talked like this at your job, you'd be ushered out the door in 5 minutes and a restraining order issued against you before you got home.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?
Osodecentx
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
 
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