AG Ken Paxton on glide path to impeachment

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Osodecentx
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
You don't know who I prefer in the GOP primary, clown. It is not Trump.
Osodecentx
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
You don't know who I prefer in the GOP primary, clown. It is not Trump.


Then answer the questions
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
You don't know who I prefer in the GOP primary, clown. It is not Trump.


Then answer the questions
LOL. As though you have any influence.
Osodecentx
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
You don't know who I prefer in the GOP primary, clown. It is not Trump.


Then answer the questions
LOL. As though you have any influence.


As though you have credibility

Why not answer?
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
You don't know who I prefer in the GOP primary, clown. It is not Trump.


Then answer the questions
LOL. As though you have any influence.


As though you have credibility

Why not answer?


For the same reason I don't indulge the nut that barks at street lights.
Osodecentx
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
You don't know who I prefer in the GOP primary, clown. It is not Trump.


Then answer the questions
LOL. As though you have any influence.


As though you have credibility

Why not answer?


For the same reason I don't indulge the nut that barks at street lights.


Pretty easy questions
Why are you scared?
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
You don't know who I prefer in the GOP primary, clown. It is not Trump.


Then answer the questions
LOL. As though you have any influence.


As though you have credibility

Why not answer?


For the same reason I don't indulge the nut that barks at street lights.


Pretty easy questions
Why are you scared?


They are pretty stupid and repetitive. Just like the nut who barks at the street light in his underwear. He repeats himself and demands the street light respond.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Will you put Social Security in a lockbox?


Did Trump say that too?

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
That is great! You really are eaten up with Donald Trump. I provide an Al Goresque comment and your mind goes to Donald Trump.
Don't blame you for dodging the Dear Leader's positions, but do you share them? Why not answer?
I mean, your devotion to him is remarkable.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats?
You don't know who I prefer in the GOP primary, clown. It is not Trump.


Then answer the questions
LOL. As though you have any influence.


As though you have credibility

Why not answer?


For the same reason I don't indulge the nut that barks at street lights.


Pretty easy questions
Why are you scared?


They are pretty stupid and repetitive. Just like the nut who barks at the street light in his underwear. He repeats himself and demands the street light respond.


You must be really, really scared

I can see why. You're a RINO
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One is not obliged to reply to barking dog.
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Oldbear83 said:

One is not obliged to reply to barking dog.


He can join 47 on ignore.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Osodecentx said:


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?
Trump is a populist warrior. He is not a Republican nor is he conservative. The Republican Party has no nominee in 2024. Only Populist vs Biden, or infantile vs insanity.
Trump is an elite in populist clothing....but he sells it very well
The good ones understand you have to do that to win elections, from time to time. It's the nincompoops who think they're above such.


It is difficult to impose your values when your party is out of power. If your the GOP, you find it hard to impose your values even when you are in power.
....because moderates believe the wars over values are not worth fighting.

Ergo, the left always gets what it wants, and we end up having to figure out how to pay for it.
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whiterock said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

whiterock said:

boognish_bear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:


Being on board of directors of Texas Republican Party is the Establishment. You're on first name basis with Republican consultants. Republican judges put you on grand juries. You are the Establishment

And very, very swampy
but, wait. you JUST said I am a populist warrior.

Which is it?
Trump is a populist warrior. He is not a Republican nor is he conservative. The Republican Party has no nominee in 2024. Only Populist vs Biden, or infantile vs insanity.
Trump is an elite in populist clothing....but he sells it very well
The good ones understand you have to do that to win elections, from time to time. It's the nincompoops who think they're above such.


It is difficult to impose your values when your party is out of power. If your the GOP, you find it hard to impose your values even when you are in power.
....because moderates believe the wars over values are not worth fighting.

Ergo, the left always gets what it wants, and we end up having to figure out how to pay for it.


That is the best summation I have read.
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Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

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.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
I still believe in probable cause through a court.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?
LOL look at Oso channeling Waco1947 DEMANDING that people answer nonsensical questions or else face mortal risk at the Pearly Gates.
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

.....(gasp).... thanks. I'm still laughing so hard I can't finish my coffee.
You continually hump Paxton/Trump, both populists, and your side appears to be winning. The Republican Party is a wholly on subsidiary of Trump.

You are the Establishment. Will you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?

come back when you're sober and we'll talk.
Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? What do you think?


Can you think of some whose houses need to be raided? I bet I can.
I still believe in probable cause through a court.

Would you execute Milley? Will you investigate NBC for treason? Will your FBI raid the homes of Senate Democrats? Trump advocated for each of these ideas. What do you think?
LOL look at Oso channeling Waco1947 DEMANDING that people answer nonsensical questions or else face mortal risk at the Pearly Gates.


Why won't you Trumpsters endorse the Dear Leader's advocacy of summary executions for His political enemies? Doesn't that make you RINO?
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Oso: "Doesn't that make you RINO?"

No, it just means we don't owe a response to puerile tantrums like yours.
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Oldbear83 said:

Oso: "Doesn't that make you RINO?"

No, it just means we don't owe a response to puerile tantrums like yours.
He cannot come to terms with the politics of the modern age.




Osodecentx
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whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Oso: "Doesn't that make you RINO?"

No, it just means we don't owe a response to puerile tantrums like yours.
He cannot come to terms with the politics of the modern age.





You may be correct
Gaetz = politics of the modern age. Gaetz = base
whiterock
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Oldbear83 said:

Oso: "Doesn't that make you RINO?"

No, it just means we don't owe a response to puerile tantrums like yours.
He cannot come to terms with the politics of the modern age.





You may be correct
Gaetz = politics of the modern age. Gaetz = base
Gaetz speaks for at least a plurality of the base, and on most larger issues a broad majority of it. And right down the line, issue after issue, you and I mostly agree with him. He has a brash, combative style that is not mine, but I recognize the value of having that skillset in the toolbox. You (and many others), by contrast, find his style so off-putting that you would refuse to engage with him at all and try to drive him into obscurity, and if unsuccessful, would stand on the sidelines and throw popcorn at him as he works on issues for you (in ways you find distasteful), and boast loudly "never-(insert name here)!!"

Who is really the radical here?
Who is really the one engaging in tantrums?

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump now giving himself the credit for springing Pax


Is there anything he cannot do?


Tell the truth.
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And on this topic you have been truthful and honest?

Please.
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quash said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump now giving himself the credit for springing Pax


Is there anything he cannot do?


Tell the truth.

Seriously, Clark, you cannot get the sarcasm?
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October 4, 2023 4:30 PM
Video: In Beaumont speech, Phelan blasts Patrick and Paxton and says he isn't going anywhere
In a speech to GOP women and in a local TV interview, Phelan called out Patrick for taking $3 million from Paxton supporters before the trial and said Paxton "isn't above the law." Check out the local TV report below

https://www.quorumreport.com/
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Documents released Tuesday by the House impeachment managers reveal closer ties between the contractor who renovated Attorney General Ken Paxton's home and Nate Paul, the financially troubled Austin real estate investor who was accused of bribing Paxton by paying for the work.

The contractor, Kevin Wood, swapped emails with Paul to provide updates about the home upgrades. The documents also show Wood was asked to testify in Paxton's trial, but would have invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

"Guys just finished applying 2nd coat of paint sealer," Wood wrote in one exchange with Paul, who asked for pictures.

House board of managers chair, Junction state Rep. Andrew Murr, and vice chair, Houston state Rep. Ann Johnson, said in a public letter that they were releasing the documents because of "the need to provide the highest level of transparency for the people of Texas." The evidence didn't come out during the two-week impeachment trial for a variety of reasons, they said, including time constraints and procedural decisions.

The documents released Tuesday show Wood performed the bulk of the house work and corresponded directly with Paul about the improvements, giving him updates and coordinating the use of storage facilities during the renovations. Wood's attorney said he was never paid for the project.

Paxton's lawyers argued during trial that the attorney general paid Cupertino Builders about $120,000 for the home upgrades, which they said proved he did not receive the work for free or as a bribe.

House prosecutors had alleged the six-figure wire transfer was a cover-up payment, made hours after Paxton's top deputies reported their boss to federal authorities for the alleged bribery. Cupertino Builders had not yet filed organization papers in Texas and didn't do so until weeks later, state records show. The company was dissolved less than two years later.

Not sure the above proves anything but it was interesting Paxton, Paul and Laura and now new evidence that Wood was included in all who would take the 5th if called to testify.

I'm surprised Ranger couldn't arrange a "wire" that would have proved what is being speculated. The House didn't really provide the damaging evidence we needed to prove this crook and his friends are crooks of the highest order. They are skilled in politics of avoiding incremination.
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Documents released Tuesday by the House impeachment managers reveal closer ties between the contractor who renovated Attorney General Ken Paxton's home and Nate Paul, the financially troubled Austin real estate investor who was accused of bribing Paxton by paying for the work.

The contractor, Kevin Wood, swapped emails with Paul to provide updates about the home upgrades. The documents also show Wood was asked to testify in Paxton's trial, but would have invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

"Guys just finished applying 2nd coat of paint sealer," Wood wrote in one exchange with Paul, who asked for pictures.

House board of managers chair, Junction state Rep. Andrew Murr, and vice chair, Houston state Rep. Ann Johnson, said in a public letter that they were releasing the documents because of "the need to provide the highest level of transparency for the people of Texas." The evidence didn't come out during the two-week impeachment trial for a variety of reasons, they said, including time constraints and procedural decisions.

The documents released Tuesday show Wood performed the bulk of the house work and corresponded directly with Paul about the improvements, giving him updates and coordinating the use of storage facilities during the renovations. Wood's attorney said he was never paid for the project.

Paxton's lawyers argued during trial that the attorney general paid Cupertino Builders about $120,000 for the home upgrades, which they said proved he did not receive the work for free or as a bribe.

House prosecutors had alleged the six-figure wire transfer was a cover-up payment, made hours after Paxton's top deputies reported their boss to federal authorities for the alleged bribery. Cupertino Builders had not yet filed organization papers in Texas and didn't do so until weeks later, state records show. The company was dissolved less than two years later.

Not sure the above proves anything but it was interesting Paxton, Paul and Laura and now new evidence that Wood was included in all who would take the 5th if called to testify.

I'm surprised Ranger couldn't arrange a "wire" that would have proved what is being speculated. The House didn't really provide the damaging evidence we needed to prove this crook and his friends are crooks of the highest order. They are skilled in politics of avoiding incremination.
and at spelling, too!

I'd advise every Republican to take the 5th, given the drastic escalation of lawfare against them by Democrats. If Dems fail to get their prosecution, the process was punishment enough for being on the wrong side of history. And of course, there's always the chance that they succeed.

Phelan's is proving his critics right. His assaults on Patrick prove he's not pursuing good government. He's pursuing conservative Republicans.

Dude has to go. Out of control.
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whiterock said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Documents released Tuesday by the House impeachment managers reveal closer ties between the contractor who renovated Attorney General Ken Paxton's home and Nate Paul, the financially troubled Austin real estate investor who was accused of bribing Paxton by paying for the work.

The contractor, Kevin Wood, swapped emails with Paul to provide updates about the home upgrades. The documents also show Wood was asked to testify in Paxton's trial, but would have invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

"Guys just finished applying 2nd coat of paint sealer," Wood wrote in one exchange with Paul, who asked for pictures.

House board of managers chair, Junction state Rep. Andrew Murr, and vice chair, Houston state Rep. Ann Johnson, said in a public letter that they were releasing the documents because of "the need to provide the highest level of transparency for the people of Texas." The evidence didn't come out during the two-week impeachment trial for a variety of reasons, they said, including time constraints and procedural decisions.

The documents released Tuesday show Wood performed the bulk of the house work and corresponded directly with Paul about the improvements, giving him updates and coordinating the use of storage facilities during the renovations. Wood's attorney said he was never paid for the project.

Paxton's lawyers argued during trial that the attorney general paid Cupertino Builders about $120,000 for the home upgrades, which they said proved he did not receive the work for free or as a bribe.

House prosecutors had alleged the six-figure wire transfer was a cover-up payment, made hours after Paxton's top deputies reported their boss to federal authorities for the alleged bribery. Cupertino Builders had not yet filed organization papers in Texas and didn't do so until weeks later, state records show. The company was dissolved less than two years later.

Not sure the above proves anything but it was interesting Paxton, Paul and Laura and now new evidence that Wood was included in all who would take the 5th if called to testify.

I'm surprised Ranger couldn't arrange a "wire" that would have proved what is being speculated. The House didn't really provide the damaging evidence we needed to prove this crook and his friends are crooks of the highest order. They are skilled in politics of avoiding incremination.

Phelan's is proving his critics right. His assaults on Patrick prove he's not pursuing good government. He's pursuing conservative Republicahelan?ns.
Is Patrick pursuing good government when he criticizes Phelan?
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Documents released Tuesday by the House impeachment managers reveal closer ties between the contractor who renovated Attorney General Ken Paxton's home and Nate Paul, the financially troubled Austin real estate investor who was accused of bribing Paxton by paying for the work.

The contractor, Kevin Wood, swapped emails with Paul to provide updates about the home upgrades. The documents also show Wood was asked to testify in Paxton's trial, but would have invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

"Guys just finished applying 2nd coat of paint sealer," Wood wrote in one exchange with Paul, who asked for pictures.

House board of managers chair, Junction state Rep. Andrew Murr, and vice chair, Houston state Rep. Ann Johnson, said in a public letter that they were releasing the documents because of "the need to provide the highest level of transparency for the people of Texas." The evidence didn't come out during the two-week impeachment trial for a variety of reasons, they said, including time constraints and procedural decisions.

The documents released Tuesday show Wood performed the bulk of the house work and corresponded directly with Paul about the improvements, giving him updates and coordinating the use of storage facilities during the renovations. Wood's attorney said he was never paid for the project.

Paxton's lawyers argued during trial that the attorney general paid Cupertino Builders about $120,000 for the home upgrades, which they said proved he did not receive the work for free or as a bribe.

House prosecutors had alleged the six-figure wire transfer was a cover-up payment, made hours after Paxton's top deputies reported their boss to federal authorities for the alleged bribery. Cupertino Builders had not yet filed organization papers in Texas and didn't do so until weeks later, state records show. The company was dissolved less than two years later.

Not sure the above proves anything but it was interesting Paxton, Paul and Laura and now new evidence that Wood was included in all who would take the 5th if called to testify.

I'm surprised Ranger couldn't arrange a "wire" that would have proved what is being speculated. The House didn't really provide the damaging evidence we needed to prove this crook and his friends are crooks of the highest order. They are skilled in politics of avoiding incremination.

Phelan's is proving his critics right. His assaults on Patrick prove he's not pursuing good government. He's pursuing conservative Republicahelan?ns.
Is Patrick pursuing good government when he criticizes Phelan?
By any reasonable standard. Phelan wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a hasty, ill-prepared, ill-presented, and most of all unnecessary impeachment of a man who just comfortably won re-election in which the issues in question were all public knowledge. The prudent course of action for an impeachment is to drip-drip-drip-drip the evidence out and drive down the public support for said official, or better yet, wait for an actual conviction. But such would not have removed Paxton in a helpful time frame for Phelan and his supporters (mostly Democrats....). So they had to move immediately. How they could have miscalculated so badly about their case? How could they not have read the mood of the Senate? How could they have so badly misread the mood of the party and the public? It was political incompetence of the highest order. And now, Phelan has not only picked a very ill-advised battle and lost it, but he's doubling down on it. No conciliation. No quiet tactical retreat to reorganize for a future attack. Oh no. He's turning the schism he opened into a full-scale civil war between institutions, elected officials, and within the GOP. And he's doing it purely to rehabilitate his own reputation. Won't work.

It would be one thing if Phelan was just a bumbling doofus who couldn't get anything done. The guy is a full-blown menace, to the Republican agenda in particular and the larger imperative for good governance.

But he made you feel good, slaked your hate toward anyone who's conservative enough to embarrass you, so there's that.
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Documents released Tuesday by the House impeachment managers reveal closer ties between the contractor who renovated Attorney General Ken Paxton's home and Nate Paul, the financially troubled Austin real estate investor who was accused of bribing Paxton by paying for the work.

The contractor, Kevin Wood, swapped emails with Paul to provide updates about the home upgrades. The documents also show Wood was asked to testify in Paxton's trial, but would have invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

"Guys just finished applying 2nd coat of paint sealer," Wood wrote in one exchange with Paul, who asked for pictures.

House board of managers chair, Junction state Rep. Andrew Murr, and vice chair, Houston state Rep. Ann Johnson, said in a public letter that they were releasing the documents because of "the need to provide the highest level of transparency for the people of Texas." The evidence didn't come out during the two-week impeachment trial for a variety of reasons, they said, including time constraints and procedural decisions.

The documents released Tuesday show Wood performed the bulk of the house work and corresponded directly with Paul about the improvements, giving him updates and coordinating the use of storage facilities during the renovations. Wood's attorney said he was never paid for the project.

Paxton's lawyers argued during trial that the attorney general paid Cupertino Builders about $120,000 for the home upgrades, which they said proved he did not receive the work for free or as a bribe.

House prosecutors had alleged the six-figure wire transfer was a cover-up payment, made hours after Paxton's top deputies reported their boss to federal authorities for the alleged bribery. Cupertino Builders had not yet filed organization papers in Texas and didn't do so until weeks later, state records show. The company was dissolved less than two years later.

Not sure the above proves anything but it was interesting Paxton, Paul and Laura and now new evidence that Wood was included in all who would take the 5th if called to testify.

I'm surprised Ranger couldn't arrange a "wire" that would have proved what is being speculated. The House didn't really provide the damaging evidence we needed to prove this crook and his friends are crooks of the highest order. They are skilled in politics of avoiding incremination.

Phelan's is proving his critics right. His assaults on Patrick prove he's not pursuing good government. He's pursuing conservative Republicahelan?ns.
Is Patrick pursuing good government when he criticizes Phelan?
By any reasonable standard. Phelan wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a hasty, ill-prepared, ill-presented, and most of all unnecessary impeachment of a man who just comfortably won re-election in which the issues in question were all public knowledge. The prudent course of action for an impeachment is to drip-drip-drip-drip the evidence out and drive down the public support for said official, or better yet, wait for an actual conviction. But such would not have removed Paxton in a helpful time frame for Phelan and his supporters (mostly Democrats....). So they had to move immediately. How they could have miscalculated so badly about their case? How could they not have read the mood of the Senate? How could they have so badly misread the mood of the party and the public? It was political incompetence of the highest order. And now, Phelan has not only picked a very ill-advised battle and lost it, but he's doubling down on it. No conciliation. No quiet tactical retreat to reorganize for a future attack. Oh no. He's turning the schism he opened into a full-scale civil war between institutions, elected officials, and within the GOP. And he's doing it purely to rehabilitate his own reputation. Won't work.

It would be one thing if Phelan was just a bumbling doofus who couldn't get anything done. The guy is a full-blown menace, to the Republican agenda in particular and the larger imperative for good governance.

But he made you feel good, slaked your hate toward anyone who's conservative enough to embarrass you, so there's that.

75% of Republicans in the Texas House vote to impeach a crook, and you side with the crook because Democrats were unanimous. The Tx Senate was 1 vote shy of conviction. Now Texas Republicans will have to deal with their AG being indicted. There will be a very public trial, probably during an election year.

4% of Congressional Republicans join 100% of Democrat caucus to oust a Republican Speaker, so naturally you take the side of the Democrats. The US House of Representatives is in chaos and 4% of Republicans are responsible.

Try winning an election without Independents. You guys aren't growing the party, you're making the tent smaller.
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Thank you for the CNN opinion, Oso.

Largely fact-free, I observe, like the lie that there were 20 votes to convict, when we know the most reached was 14.

But some folks gotta get their lynch on.
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Multiple senators who spoke with The Texas Tribune described deliberations that began in good faith, but turned toward an acquittal consensus as political calculation set in among Republicans. In the end, it appeared that the Senate may have been close to the threshold for conviction, but Republicans did not want to take a tough vote if they could not get there.

"I feel there were six senators who were ready to be the 21st vote," said Sen. Nathan Johnson, D-Dallas. "But they didn't want to be the 20th vote."

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/09/20/ken-paxton-senators-dan-patrick-vote-impeachment/
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Quote:

Documents released Tuesday by the House impeachment managers reveal closer ties between the contractor who renovated Attorney General Ken Paxton's home and Nate Paul, the financially troubled Austin real estate investor who was accused of bribing Paxton by paying for the work.

The contractor, Kevin Wood, swapped emails with Paul to provide updates about the home upgrades. The documents also show Wood was asked to testify in Paxton's trial, but would have invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

"Guys just finished applying 2nd coat of paint sealer," Wood wrote in one exchange with Paul, who asked for pictures.

House board of managers chair, Junction state Rep. Andrew Murr, and vice chair, Houston state Rep. Ann Johnson, said in a public letter that they were releasing the documents because of "the need to provide the highest level of transparency for the people of Texas." The evidence didn't come out during the two-week impeachment trial for a variety of reasons, they said, including time constraints and procedural decisions.

The documents released Tuesday show Wood performed the bulk of the house work and corresponded directly with Paul about the improvements, giving him updates and coordinating the use of storage facilities during the renovations. Wood's attorney said he was never paid for the project.

Paxton's lawyers argued during trial that the attorney general paid Cupertino Builders about $120,000 for the home upgrades, which they said proved he did not receive the work for free or as a bribe.

House prosecutors had alleged the six-figure wire transfer was a cover-up payment, made hours after Paxton's top deputies reported their boss to federal authorities for the alleged bribery. Cupertino Builders had not yet filed organization papers in Texas and didn't do so until weeks later, state records show. The company was dissolved less than two years later.

Not sure the above proves anything but it was interesting Paxton, Paul and Laura and now new evidence that Wood was included in all who would take the 5th if called to testify.

I'm surprised Ranger couldn't arrange a "wire" that would have proved what is being speculated. The House didn't really provide the damaging evidence we needed to prove this crook and his friends are crooks of the highest order. They are skilled in politics of avoiding incremination.

Phelan's is proving his critics right. His assaults on Patrick prove he's not pursuing good government. He's pursuing conservative Republicahelan?ns.
Is Patrick pursuing good government when he criticizes Phelan?
By any reasonable standard. Phelan wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a hasty, ill-prepared, ill-presented, and most of all unnecessary impeachment of a man who just comfortably won re-election in which the issues in question were all public knowledge. The prudent course of action for an impeachment is to drip-drip-drip-drip the evidence out and drive down the public support for said official, or better yet, wait for an actual conviction. But such would not have removed Paxton in a helpful time frame for Phelan and his supporters (mostly Democrats....). So they had to move immediately. How they could have miscalculated so badly about their case? How could they not have read the mood of the Senate? How could they have so badly misread the mood of the party and the public? It was political incompetence of the highest order. And now, Phelan has not only picked a very ill-advised battle and lost it, but he's doubling down on it. No conciliation. No quiet tactical retreat to reorganize for a future attack. Oh no. He's turning the schism he opened into a full-scale civil war between institutions, elected officials, and within the GOP. And he's doing it purely to rehabilitate his own reputation. Won't work.

It would be one thing if Phelan was just a bumbling doofus who couldn't get anything done. The guy is a full-blown menace, to the Republican agenda in particular and the larger imperative for good governance.

But he made you feel good, slaked your hate toward anyone who's conservative enough to embarrass you, so there's that.

75% of Republicans in the Texas House vote to impeach a crook, and you side with the crook because Democrats were unanimous. The Tx Senate was 1 vote shy of conviction. Now Texas Republicans will have to deal with their AG being indicted. There will be a very public trial, probably during an election year.
You are grasping. The official Senate vote failed by considerably more than 1 vote. The rest is spin. The House voted by the margin it did for a reason - the Speaker whipped the vote. Quite a few reps went along to remain effective for their district. (Mine did not.) And I also made a point you have studiously ignored - even those who supported the impeachment should be angry at Phelan - he did a really, really poor job of building the case for impeachment, on multiple levels. Totally incompetent. If Paxton really is THAT guilty, getting a conviction should have been easy, right?

4% of Congressional Republicans join 100% of Democrat caucus to oust a Republican Speaker, so naturally you take the side of the Democrats. The US House of Representatives is in chaos and 4% of Republicans are responsible.
Geez, you can't get anything right. I took the side of the Republicans in Congress, who need and deserve a Speaker who will stick to the agreements he made. I'm not talking about radical things. I"m talking about simple things, like regular order on budgets, 72 hour minimum for posting bills prior to voting (to allow members to actually read the bills they're voting on) that no sane Republican would have a problem with.

Try winning an election without Independents. You guys aren't growing the party, you're making the tent smaller.
LOL we added 14m votes to the party in 2020 and won the popular vote in the mid-terms by 4m. You're the smaller tent guy, wanting to run off all the Trump supporters (2/3 of the party).

Phelan is gonna get rolled in special session. Will be fun to watch. Also will be fun to watch Gov and LtGov pile in against him in the next primary. You can take it to the bank that both of them are tired of dealing with such a lightweight.


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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Quote:

Documents released Tuesday by the House impeachment managers reveal closer ties between the contractor who renovated Attorney General Ken Paxton's home and Nate Paul, the financially troubled Austin real estate investor who was accused of bribing Paxton by paying for the work.

The contractor, Kevin Wood, swapped emails with Paul to provide updates about the home upgrades. The documents also show Wood was asked to testify in Paxton's trial, but would have invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

"Guys just finished applying 2nd coat of paint sealer," Wood wrote in one exchange with Paul, who asked for pictures.

House board of managers chair, Junction state Rep. Andrew Murr, and vice chair, Houston state Rep. Ann Johnson, said in a public letter that they were releasing the documents because of "the need to provide the highest level of transparency for the people of Texas." The evidence didn't come out during the two-week impeachment trial for a variety of reasons, they said, including time constraints and procedural decisions.

The documents released Tuesday show Wood performed the bulk of the house work and corresponded directly with Paul about the improvements, giving him updates and coordinating the use of storage facilities during the renovations. Wood's attorney said he was never paid for the project.

Paxton's lawyers argued during trial that the attorney general paid Cupertino Builders about $120,000 for the home upgrades, which they said proved he did not receive the work for free or as a bribe.

House prosecutors had alleged the six-figure wire transfer was a cover-up payment, made hours after Paxton's top deputies reported their boss to federal authorities for the alleged bribery. Cupertino Builders had not yet filed organization papers in Texas and didn't do so until weeks later, state records show. The company was dissolved less than two years later.

Not sure the above proves anything but it was interesting Paxton, Paul and Laura and now new evidence that Wood was included in all who would take the 5th if called to testify.

I'm surprised Ranger couldn't arrange a "wire" that would have proved what is being speculated. The House didn't really provide the damaging evidence we needed to prove this crook and his friends are crooks of the highest order. They are skilled in politics of avoiding incremination.

Phelan's is proving his critics right. His assaults on Patrick prove he's not pursuing good government. He's pursuing conservative Republicahelan?ns.
Is Patrick pursuing good government when he criticizes Phelan?
By any reasonable standard. Phelan wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a hasty, ill-prepared, ill-presented, and most of all unnecessary impeachment of a man who just comfortably won re-election in which the issues in question were all public knowledge. The prudent course of action for an impeachment is to drip-drip-drip-drip the evidence out and drive down the public support for said official, or better yet, wait for an actual conviction. But such would not have removed Paxton in a helpful time frame for Phelan and his supporters (mostly Democrats....). So they had to move immediately. How they could have miscalculated so badly about their case? How could they not have read the mood of the Senate? How could they have so badly misread the mood of the party and the public? It was political incompetence of the highest order. And now, Phelan has not only picked a very ill-advised battle and lost it, but he's doubling down on it. No conciliation. No quiet tactical retreat to reorganize for a future attack. Oh no. He's turning the schism he opened into a full-scale civil war between institutions, elected officials, and within the GOP. And he's doing it purely to rehabilitate his own reputation. Won't work.

It would be one thing if Phelan was just a bumbling doofus who couldn't get anything done. The guy is a full-blown menace, to the Republican agenda in particular and the larger imperative for good governance.

But he made you feel good, slaked your hate toward anyone who's conservative enough to embarrass you, so there's that.

75% of Republicans in the Texas House vote to impeach a crook, and you side with the crook because Democrats were unanimous. The Tx Senate was 1 vote shy of conviction. Now Texas Republicans will have to deal with their AG being indicted. There will be a very public trial, probably during an election year.
You are grasping. The official Senate vote failed by considerably more than 1 vote. The rest is spin. The House voted by the margin it did for a reason - the Speaker whipped the vote. Quite a few reps went along to remain effective for their district. (Mine did not.) And I also made a point you have studiously ignored - even those who supported the impeachment should be angry at Phelan - he did a really, really poor job of building the case for impeachment, on multiple levels. Totally incompetent. If Paxton really is THAT guilty, getting a conviction should have been easy, right?

4% of Congressional Republicans join 100% of Democrat caucus to oust a Republican Speaker, so naturally you take the side of the Democrats. The US House of Representatives is in chaos and 4% of Republicans are responsible.
Geez, you can't get anything right. I took the side of the Republicans in Congress, who need and deserve a Speaker who will stick to the agreements he made. I'm not talking about radical things. I"m talking about simple things, like regular order on budgets, 72 hour minimum for posting bills prior to voting (to allow members to actually read the bills they're voting on) that no sane Republican would have a problem with.

Try winning an election without Independents. You guys aren't growing the party, you're making the tent smaller.
LOL we added 14m votes to the party in 2020 and won the popular vote in the mid-terms by 4m. You're the smaller tent guy, wanting to run off all the Trump supporters (2/3 of the party).

Phelan is gonna get rolled in special session. Will be fun to watch. Also will be fun to watch Gov and LtGov pile in against him in the next primary. You can take it to the bank that both of them are tired of dealing with such a lightweight.

These guys funded the primary campaign against Abbott. Now hosting Fuentes and funding campaign against Republican House members. Some Republicans apparently are comfortable with anti-semites and Hitler apologists (Fuentes brags about this).

CONSERVATIVE PAC LEADER'S MEETING WITH WHITE SUPREMACIST NICK FUENTES LEADS TO CONDEMNATIONS, ESCALATES GOP INFIGHTING
THE TRIBUNE REPORTED SUNDAY THAT JONATHAN STICKLAND, THE LEADER OF DEFEND TEXAS LIBERTY PAC, HOSTED FUENTES, A WHITE SUPREMACIST AND ANTISEMITE, IN FORT WORTH FOR NEARLY 7 HOURS ON FRIDAY. PHELAN CALLED ON LT. GOV. DAN PATRICK AND OTHER OFFICIALS TO REDIRECT ANY MONEY THEY RECEIVED FROM THE PAC.
House Speaker Dade Phelan strongly condemned the leader of a major conservative PAC and demanded that elected officials including Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick return money they received from the group, one day after The Texas Tribune reported that it had recently hosted well-known white supremacist Nick Fuentes.
"This (is) not just a casual misstep," Phelan said in a statement. "It's indicative of the moral, political rot that has been festering in a certain segment of our party for far too long. Anti-Semitism, bigotry and Hitler apologists should find no sanctuary in the Republican party. Period. We cannot and must not tolerate the tacit endorsement of such vile ideologies."
The Tribune reported Sunday that Jonathan Stickland, the leader of Defend Texas Liberty PAC and a related consulting firm, Pale Horse Strategies, hosted Fuentes in Fort Worth for nearly 7 hours on Friday. Fuentes is an avowed admirer of Adolf Hitler, has called for "holy war" against Jews and said that "all I want is revenge against my enemies and a total Aryan victory."
Acting on a tip, a Tribune reporter and photographer observed Fuentes and others including Kyle Rittenhouse, who was acquitted of homicide after killing two Black Lives Matter protesters in 2020 enter the one-story office of Pale Horse Strategies in Fort Worth. Republican Party of Texas Chair Matt Rinaldi also was inside the office for about 45 minutes, though Rinaldi told the Tribune that he had no idea that Fuentes was there, condemned him outright and said he wouldn't meet with him "in a million years."
Defend Texas Liberty is funded by two West Texas oil billionaires Tim Dunn and Farris Wilks who are also Attorney General Ken Paxton's biggest donors. Earlier this year, the group made headlines after it gave $3 million in loans and donations to Patrick ahead of Paxton's impeachment trial in the Texas Senate, over which Patrick presided.
Despite his open adoration for Hitler and his violent rhetoric, Fuentes has not been entirely cast out of right-wing circles. Hard-right Republicans, including U.S. Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Paul Gosar of Arizona, have spoken at Fuentes' annual conference alongside avowed white supremacists.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/09/dade-phelan-speaker-nick-fuentes-dan-patrick-defend-texas-liberty/
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So tonight Patrick says "Israel has a right to defend itself". He should have attended the Fort Worth powwow and told that to Mr. Fuentes. Being the politician Patrick has proven to be of course he would not do that. He already had his paycheck from Dunn and Wills. But the dots are there hoping no one noticed.

Upon further review I see this about Dunn Wiki.

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He is the chairman of the Christian Advisory Board of the Israeli Allies Foundation, a non-governmental organization formed in 2007 by Israeli rabbi and politician Binyamin Elon to encourage cooperation among faith-based supporters of Israel in parliaments and legislatures worldwide. Dunn, who Forbes called "staunchly anti-abortion", funds adoption services and foster homes for over 300 children in West Texas.

Maybe Dunn needs to speak with Mr. Strickland and ask for some money back.

Paxton chimes in tonight blaming Biden for the entire mess in Israel, something I have come to expect for our great AG simpleton.
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