Bidens Pressured Burisma Founder into Paying $10 Million Bribe

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Bidens Pressured Burisma Founder into Paying $10 Million Bribe to Get Ukrainian Prosecutor Fired, FBI S
Senator Grassley released a document Thursday revealing that a reliable FBI source had informed the bureau of the bribery scheme.

According to an unidentified informant businessman, the founder of Burisma recounted being pressured by then-Vice President Joe Biden to put Biden's son Hunter on the Ukrainian energy company's board, and for $10 million in bribes $5 million each to Joe and Hunter Biden in order to use Biden's political influence to force the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.

The prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, was fired by the Ukrainian government a few months after Vice President Biden, in late 2015, threatened then-Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko that the Obama administration would withhold $1 billion in congressionallyapproved U.S. funding unless Kyiv fired Shokin. Biden later bragged about the threat in a 2018 interview at the Council on Foreign Relations.
The bribery information was provided to the FBI in a series of meetings with the informant beginning in 2017.Those meetings were summarized in re-interview of the informant on June 30, 2020, and outlined in a Form 1023, the standard FBI form used to record information from an interview with a confidential human source (CHS). As National Reviewpreviously reported, this 1023 report has been the subject of an extensive dispute between the House Oversight Committee, which subpoenaed the document, and the FBI, which fought its release and then made a redacted version of the document available to the committee with significant restrictions.
The 1023 report was released Thursday afternoon with minimal redactions by Senator Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa), who explains that he obtained the document via legally protected disclosures by Justice Department whistleblowers.

Senator Grassley and the House Oversight Committee, led by Chairman James Comer, have been pressing the FBI for an explanation of what, if any, follow-up investigation has been done regarding extensively detailed disclosures that implicate now-President Biden in a $10 million bribery scheme (among other corrupt acts) from a CHS with a track-record of reliability. Thus far, the FBI and its Justice Department superiors have declined to respond to those inquiries.

Burisma's founder and CEO is Mykola Zlochevsky. The CHS, a businessman, first dealt with him indirectly in the 2015-16 time frame. The CHS was introduced to Burisma executives by an associate, identified as Oleksandr Ostapenko, who accompanied the CHS to a meeting at Burisma headquarters to discuss the company's acquisition of an American energy firm that would allow them to IPO in the U.S.
During the meeting, Burisma CFO Vadim Pojarskii listed the company's board of directors, which included the former president and prime minister of Poland as well as Hunter Biden who, he said, was brought on "to protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems."
The CHS then asked why Burisma needed his assistance with the acquisition of a U.S. energy company given Hunter Biden's involvement, prompting Pojarskii to concede that the younger Biden's limited intelligence meant he was of little value outside of the influence he could exercise over his father.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/07/bidens-pressured-burisma-founder-into-paying-10-million-bribe-to-get-prosecutor-fired-fbi-source-claims/


Doc Holliday
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Damning.

Also the damning that the FBI hid this from congress and investigation.

Trump got impeached for simply asking a question about this and now we have quotes from Burisma's founder confirming they bribed the Bidens to get Shokin fired.

Garland and Wray should be impeached.

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Fwiw, the supposed source directly refuted these exact allegations to Lev Parnas (working for Rudy Giuliani) in writing in 2019. Provenance could be suspect, but so is the 1023. What the 1023 shows is that Trump's FBI/DOJ looked into it over multiple years, and evidently must not have turned up much.

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Asked, for example, whether Joe Biden, while vice president, had ever assisted Zlochevsky or Burisma "in any way with business deals or meetings with world leaders or any other assistance," Zlochevsky replied curtly: "No." Asked to detail any contacts he had with Joe Biden from 2013-2019, and whether Hunter ever facilitated any meetings, Zlochevsky replied: "No one from Burisma ever had any contacts with VP Biden or people working for him during Hunter Biden's engagement."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/24/hunter-biden-hard-drive-lev-parnas-432108
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Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.
Doc Holliday
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HuMcK said:

Fwiw, the supposed source may have directly refuted these exact allegations to Lev Parnas (working for Rudy Giuliani) in writing in 2019. Provenance could be suspect, but so it this 1023. What the 1023 shows is that Trump's FBI/DOJ looked into it, and evidently must not have turned up much.

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Asked, for example, whether Joe Biden, while vice president, had ever assisted Zlochevsky or Burisma "in any way with business deals or meetings with world leaders or any other assistance," Zlochevsky replied curtly: "No." Asked to detail any contacts he had with Joe Biden from 2013-2019, and whether Hunter ever facilitated any meetings, Zlochevsky replied: "No one from Burisma ever had any contacts with VP Biden or people working for him during Hunter Biden's engagement."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/24/hunter-biden-hard-drive-lev-parnas-432108
This has nothing to do with Rudy.

It shows the DOJ under Trump hid it.
Harrison Bergeron
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amazing tribal silliness. there's more on the biden's than any president in recent history.
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KaiBear
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Doc Holliday said:

Damning.

Also the damning that the FBI hid this from congress and investigation.


This is the most dangerous issue.

FBI corruption .
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riflebear
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It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?
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And there was much rejoicing….

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EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
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LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
Nothing about the actions of you Bidophiles denotes "vertebrate."
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
BUT TRUMP!

Do you scream Donald when you come? Do you make him wear a MAGA hat?
LateSteak69
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Harrison Bergeron said:

LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
BUT TRUMP!

Do you scream Donald when you come? Do you make him wear a MAGA hat?


Typically no, usually only when I take a sh$t. But I'm sure you go #3 to hunters latest pics posted by that ******* MTG.
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Biden's treason makes Watergate look like a parking violation. This is really bad. I hope Joe Biden spends the rest of his life in prison. The only way he gets pardoned if the Dems rig another election (which is very possible).
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Biden's treason makes Watergate look like a parking violation. This is really bad. I hope Biden spends the rest of his life in prison.


Think he will share a cell with orange koresh?
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LateSteak69 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Biden's treason makes Watergate look like a parking violation. This is really bad. I hope Biden spends the rest of his life in prison.


Think he will share a cell with orange koresh?
Would love nothing more than "orange koresh" and China Joe to spend a couple of hours in a cell together.

Joe is already training. He is practicing falling down.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

LateSteak69 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Biden's treason makes Watergate look like a parking violation. This is really bad. I hope Biden spends the rest of his life in prison.


Think he will share a cell with orange koresh?
Would love nothing more than "orange koresh" and China Joe to spend a couple of hours in a cell together.

Joe is already training. He is practicing falling down.


You know t:;@p has to be a power bottom. Just has to be.
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riflebear said:

It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?


Everyone knew Biden was unfit to be President when the party bosses put the knife to Bernie's 2020 primary campaign once he became the front runner .

Everyone knew Biden had been collecting massive bribes as VP but the Clintons had already established the $$$ standard with their 'foundation' and the media chose to ignore the blatant hypocrisy.

Harris could still be POTUS by the time the 2024 Dem National Convention rolls around. That was the initial plan after all; to establish the country's first woman president. But Harris proved to be even more stupid than shown in the 2020 primaries, where she garnered only 7% of the votes . Will her being the presidential incumbent carry Harris to the 2024 party nomination ?

Nope, she blew it .

( pun intended )


Make way for Gavin.

The American Trudeau.
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LateSteak69 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
BUT TRUMP!

Do you scream Donald when you come? Do you make him wear a MAGA hat?


Typically no, usually only when I take a sh$t. But I'm sure you go #3 to hunters latest pics posted by that ******* MTG.
You have to come up with some more clever except BUT TRUMP.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

LateSteak69 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
BUT TRUMP!

Do you scream Donald when you come? Do you make him wear a MAGA hat?


Typically no, usually only when I take a sh$t. But I'm sure you go #3 to hunters latest pics posted by that ******* MTG.
You have to come up with some more clever except BUT TRUMP.


Well you and your ilk are just BUT BIDEN so just playing to the crowd.
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LateSteak69 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

LateSteak69 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
BUT TRUMP!

Do you scream Donald when you come? Do you make him wear a MAGA hat?


Typically no, usually only when I take a sh$t. But I'm sure you go #3 to hunters latest pics posted by that ******* MTG.
You have to come up with some more clever except BUT TRUMP.


Well you and your ilk are just BUT BIDEN so just playing to the crowd.
Your ilk is trying to downplay child trafficking and cancel people who bring awareness to it…
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KaiBear said:

riflebear said:

It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?


Everyone knew Biden was unfit to be President when the party bosses put the knife to Bernie's 2020 primary campaign once he became the front runner .

Everyone knew Biden had been collecting massive bribes as VP but the Clintons had already established the $$$ standard with their 'foundation' and the media chose to ignore the blatant hypocrisy.

Harris could still be POTUS by the time the 2024 Dem National Convention rolls around. That was the initial plan after all; to establish the country's first woman president. But Harris proved to be even more stupid than shown in the 2020 primaries, where she garnered only 7% of the votes . Will her being the presidential incumbent carry Harris to the 2024 party nomination ?

Nope, she blew it .

( pun intended )


Make way for Gavin.

The American Trudeau.
No way that the black community and the Militant Muslims aka The Squad allow white privileged Gavin Newsom to leap frog heir apparent / brain trust Kamala Harris. Not gonna happen. This is the corner the Dems have painted themselves into.

Enter the Cafeteria Czar.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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LateSteak69 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

LateSteak69 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
BUT TRUMP!

Do you scream Donald when you come? Do you make him wear a MAGA hat?


Typically no, usually only when I take a sh$t. But I'm sure you go #3 to hunters latest pics posted by that ******* MTG.
You have to come up with some more clever except BUT TRUMP.


Well you and your ilk are just BUT BIDEN so just playing to the crowd.
That's even less clever. Par for the course. Are you under the impression that Joe Biden is not the current - at least officially - and there is mounting evidence the Biden family is the most corrupt ever to occupy the White House, or at least since the Clintons? Odd the "D" beside his name makes you not care about corruption or his racism, sexism, creepy pedo-tendencies and overall dishonesty.
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LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
How is Grassley's investigation proof that Dems have a spine? Or is this just a reflexive reaction to any criticism of Biden/Dems?

Thought you said you were conservative. That being the case, this is a weird and contradictory take.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

riflebear said:

It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?


Everyone knew Biden was unfit to be President when the party bosses put the knife to Bernie's 2020 primary campaign once he became the front runner .

Everyone knew Biden had been collecting massive bribes as VP but the Clintons had already established the $$$ standard with their 'foundation' and the media chose to ignore the blatant hypocrisy.

Harris could still be POTUS by the time the 2024 Dem National Convention rolls around. That was the initial plan after all; to establish the country's first woman president. But Harris proved to be even more stupid than shown in the 2020 primaries, where she garnered only 7% of the votes . Will her being the presidential incumbent carry Harris to the 2024 party nomination ?

Nope, she blew it .

( pun intended )


Make way for Gavin.

The American Trudeau.
No way that the black community and the Militant Muslims aka The Squad allow white privileged Gavin Newsom to leap frog heir apparent / brain trust Kamala Harris. Not gonna happen. This is the corner the Dems have painted themselves into.

Enter the Cafeteria Czar.


Dem power brokers are far more ruthless and politically astute than their Republican counterparts.

They now realize Kamala is dumb as a brick, personally unlikeable, and unable to win the 2024 general election even as an incumbent president .

Like Bernie, Kamala will quietly receive 'compensation' for her hurt pride and as a result publicly support Gavin in the general election.

BTW if Trump is the Republican nominee Gavin will win in the biggest landslide since 1984 .
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Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
How is Grassley's investigation proof that Dems have a spine? Or is this just a reflexive reaction to any criticism of Biden/Dems?

Thought you said you were conservative. That being the case, this is a weird and contradictory take.
Not contradictory at all IMO. Ok to disagree here

As i have said many times, i am a conservative. Frankly, i am repulsed at what my party is right now, it is very hard to relate to it. I hope that changes quickly.
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KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

riflebear said:

It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?


Everyone knew Biden was unfit to be President when the party bosses put the knife to Bernie's 2020 primary campaign once he became the front runner .

Everyone knew Biden had been collecting massive bribes as VP but the Clintons had already established the $$$ standard with their 'foundation' and the media chose to ignore the blatant hypocrisy.

Harris could still be POTUS by the time the 2024 Dem National Convention rolls around. That was the initial plan after all; to establish the country's first woman president. But Harris proved to be even more stupid than shown in the 2020 primaries, where she garnered only 7% of the votes . Will her being the presidential incumbent carry Harris to the 2024 party nomination ?

Nope, she blew it .

( pun intended )


Make way for Gavin.

The American Trudeau.
No way that the black community and the Militant Muslims aka The Squad allow white privileged Gavin Newsom to leap frog heir apparent / brain trust Kamala Harris. Not gonna happen. This is the corner the Dems have painted themselves into.

Enter the Cafeteria Czar.




They now realize Kamala is dumb as a brick, personally unlikeable, and unable to win the 2024 general election even as an incumbent president .

Like Bernie, Kamala will quietly receive 'compensation' for her hurt pride and as a result publicly support Gavin in the general election.


This is an interesting and very plausible take, but the difference is black and white. Yes, I agree that Bernie was compensated handsomely by being a good foot soldier and stepping aside. The Progressive Left has made identity politics (race) so toxic, I don't see them allowing Kamala to receive her golden parachute and quietly ride off into the sunset. They are gonna make things nasty and ugly. Circular firing squad. It should be fun to watch.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
Mothra
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LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
How is Grassley's investigation proof that Dems have a spine? Or is this just a reflexive reaction to any criticism of Biden/Dems?

Thought you said you were conservative. That being the case, this is a weird and contradictory take.
Not contradictory at all IMO. Ok to disagree here

As i have said many times, i am a conservative. Frankly, i am repulsed at what my party is right now, it is very hard to relate to it. I hope that changes quickly.
How is Grassley's investigation proof that Dems have a spine?

You can be "repulsed" by your own party without defending the party that is supposedly the opposite of your values.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

riflebear said:

It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?


Everyone knew Biden was unfit to be President when the party bosses put the knife to Bernie's 2020 primary campaign once he became the front runner .

Everyone knew Biden had been collecting massive bribes as VP but the Clintons had already established the $$$ standard with their 'foundation' and the media chose to ignore the blatant hypocrisy.

Harris could still be POTUS by the time the 2024 Dem National Convention rolls around. That was the initial plan after all; to establish the country's first woman president. But Harris proved to be even more stupid than shown in the 2020 primaries, where she garnered only 7% of the votes . Will her being the presidential incumbent carry Harris to the 2024 party nomination ?

Nope, she blew it .

( pun intended )


Make way for Gavin.

The American Trudeau.
No way that the black community and the Militant Muslims aka The Squad allow white privileged Gavin Newsom to leap frog heir apparent / brain trust Kamala Harris. Not gonna happen. This is the corner the Dems have painted themselves into.

Enter the Cafeteria Czar.




They now realize Kamala is dumb as a brick, personally unlikeable, and unable to win the 2024 general election even as an incumbent president .

Like Bernie, Kamala will quietly receive 'compensation' for her hurt pride and as a result publicly support Gavin in the general election.


This is an interesting and very plausible take, but the difference is black and white. Yes, I agree that Bernie was compensated handsomely by being a good foot soldier and stepping aside. The Progressive Left has made identity politics (race) so toxic, I don't see them allowing Kamala to receive her golden parachute and quietly ride off into the sunset. They are gonna make things nasty and ugly. Circular firing squad. It should be fun to watch.
Fun to watch or not the result will be the same.

Dem president, higher taxes, open borders, and multilated children.
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KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

riflebear said:

It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?


Everyone knew Biden was unfit to be President when the party bosses put the knife to Bernie's 2020 primary campaign once he became the front runner .

Everyone knew Biden had been collecting massive bribes as VP but the Clintons had already established the $$$ standard with their 'foundation' and the media chose to ignore the blatant hypocrisy.

Harris could still be POTUS by the time the 2024 Dem National Convention rolls around. That was the initial plan after all; to establish the country's first woman president. But Harris proved to be even more stupid than shown in the 2020 primaries, where she garnered only 7% of the votes . Will her being the presidential incumbent carry Harris to the 2024 party nomination ?

Nope, she blew it .

( pun intended )


Make way for Gavin.

The American Trudeau.
No way that the black community and the Militant Muslims aka The Squad allow white privileged Gavin Newsom to leap frog heir apparent / brain trust Kamala Harris. Not gonna happen. This is the corner the Dems have painted themselves into.

Enter the Cafeteria Czar.




They now realize Kamala is dumb as a brick, personally unlikeable, and unable to win the 2024 general election even as an incumbent president .

Like Bernie, Kamala will quietly receive 'compensation' for her hurt pride and as a result publicly support Gavin in the general election.


This is an interesting and very plausible take, but the difference is black and white. Yes, I agree that Bernie was compensated handsomely by being a good foot soldier and stepping aside. The Progressive Left has made identity politics (race) so toxic, I don't see them allowing Kamala to receive her golden parachute and quietly ride off into the sunset. They are gonna make things nasty and ugly. Circular firing squad. It should be fun to watch.
Fun to watch or not the result will be the same.

Dem president, higher taxes, open borders, and multilated children.
I am going to be optimistic and have faith that there are at least a handful of decent, moral Democrats that are not willing to re-elect a president that has clearly been compromised by China, Ukraine, Russia, etc. Joe Biden has made the world a more dangerous place and put the safety of ALL Americans at great risk.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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Wangchung said:

LateSteak69 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Were you bribed to post that?

Too much smoke emanating from and around a filtered press. It looks to me like Joe Biden will likely be booted from the 2024 Democrat Party nomination.

Which I am ok with.


So the dems may have a spine after all. Unlike the cultists trumptards…
Nothing about the actions of you Bidophiles denotes "vertebrate."

LOL - If the GOP hadn't won the majority in the House in 22 and Grassley hadn't done what he's done we wouldn't have any of this hard evidence. Dims had NOTHING to do with it.

Plus there is no "equivalency" whatsoever between the hard evidence of corruption, bribes, and crimes that continues to mount on dementia Joe and his crime family syndicate and the completely made up,ridiculous, wholly unfounded accusations against Trump that continue to be invented by the dims and their sychophants.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

riflebear said:

It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?


Everyone knew Biden was unfit to be President when the party bosses put the knife to Bernie's 2020 primary campaign once he became the front runner .

Everyone knew Biden had been collecting massive bribes as VP but the Clintons had already established the $$$ standard with their 'foundation' and the media chose to ignore the blatant hypocrisy.

Harris could still be POTUS by the time the 2024 Dem National Convention rolls around. That was the initial plan after all; to establish the country's first woman president. But Harris proved to be even more stupid than shown in the 2020 primaries, where she garnered only 7% of the votes . Will her being the presidential incumbent carry Harris to the 2024 party nomination ?

Nope, she blew it .

( pun intended )


Make way for Gavin.

The American Trudeau.
No way that the black community and the Militant Muslims aka The Squad allow white privileged Gavin Newsom to leap frog heir apparent / brain trust Kamala Harris. Not gonna happen. This is the corner the Dems have painted themselves into.

Enter the Cafeteria Czar.




They now realize Kamala is dumb as a brick, personally unlikeable, and unable to win the 2024 general election even as an incumbent president .

Like Bernie, Kamala will quietly receive 'compensation' for her hurt pride and as a result publicly support Gavin in the general election.


This is an interesting and very plausible take, but the difference is black and white. Yes, I agree that Bernie was compensated handsomely by being a good foot soldier and stepping aside. The Progressive Left has made identity politics (race) so toxic, I don't see them allowing Kamala to receive her golden parachute and quietly ride off into the sunset. They are gonna make things nasty and ugly. Circular firing squad. It should be fun to watch.
Fun to watch or not the result will be the same.

Dem president, higher taxes, open borders, and multilated children.
I am going to be optimistic and have faith that there are at least a handful of decent, moral Democrats that are not willing to re-elect a president that has clearly been compromised by China, Ukraine, Russia, etc. Joe Biden has made the world a more dangerous place and put the safety of ALL Americans at great risk.

I appreciate your optimism and I'm sure there are some dims (who are still dims) that feel that way, but more and more I'm convinced they are and will continue to be overwhelmed by masses of other dim voters that will vote for anybody that supports abortion on demand up to and including infanticide, and is a climate change cultist - regardless of how corrupt they are, or how much they endanger the country and the world in general. Hope I'm wrong and you're right.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

riflebear said:

It's all part of their plan to get rid of Biden last min and sneak in another Dem candidate.

Everyone knows Biden is unfit to serve. The question is who is calling the shots?


Everyone knew Biden was unfit to be President when the party bosses put the knife to Bernie's 2020 primary campaign once he became the front runner .

Everyone knew Biden had been collecting massive bribes as VP but the Clintons had already established the $$$ standard with their 'foundation' and the media chose to ignore the blatant hypocrisy.

Harris could still be POTUS by the time the 2024 Dem National Convention rolls around. That was the initial plan after all; to establish the country's first woman president. But Harris proved to be even more stupid than shown in the 2020 primaries, where she garnered only 7% of the votes . Will her being the presidential incumbent carry Harris to the 2024 party nomination ?

Nope, she blew it .

( pun intended )


Make way for Gavin.

The American Trudeau.
No way that the black community and the Militant Muslims aka The Squad allow white privileged Gavin Newsom to leap frog heir apparent / brain trust Kamala Harris. Not gonna happen. This is the corner the Dems have painted themselves into.

Enter the Cafeteria Czar.




They now realize Kamala is dumb as a brick, personally unlikeable, and unable to win the 2024 general election even as an incumbent president .

Like Bernie, Kamala will quietly receive 'compensation' for her hurt pride and as a result publicly support Gavin in the general election.


This is an interesting and very plausible take, but the difference is black and white. Yes, I agree that Bernie was compensated handsomely by being a good foot soldier and stepping aside. The Progressive Left has made identity politics (race) so toxic, I don't see them allowing Kamala to receive her golden parachute and quietly ride off into the sunset. They are gonna make things nasty and ugly. Circular firing squad. It should be fun to watch.
Fun to watch or not the result will be the same.

Dem president, higher taxes, open borders, and multilated children.
I am going to be optimistic and have faith that there are at least a handful of decent, moral Democrats that are not willing to re-elect a president that has clearly been compromised by China, Ukraine, Russia, etc. Joe Biden has made the world a more dangerous place and put the safety of ALL Americans at great risk.
Not remotely believing Joe Biden will be the Dem nominee.

Gavin as president is going to make Biden look like a far right conservative.
 
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