Rep. Dan Goldman from Manhattan says Hunter Biden put Joe Biden on the phone 20+ times with foreign business associates "just to talk about the weather."
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 31, 2023
Never mind the vast web of LLCs established to conceal the sources of money flowing into Biden coffers.
Never mind that 9… https://t.co/j9eGk90sAf
.@realDonaldTrump: "You're the big man, I think.
— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) October 23, 2020
Your son said we have to give 10% to the big man.
Joe, what's that all about? It's terrible." pic.twitter.com/AAZXXAW0UE
🤔, NYT? pic.twitter.com/x7jL1LUMGC
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) August 1, 2023
Rep. @danielsgoldman: "Let's put this in context: Beau Biden got very sick in 2015. He died in 2015. It was right in the middle when Devon Archer had his business dealings with Hunter Biden. At that point Joe Biden and Hunter Biden began to speak every day because they were… pic.twitter.com/hul2OjQiDs
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) August 1, 2023
Biden Calls Emergency Meeting In Situation Room For Some Small Talk About The Weather https://t.co/ONmzEjwxs2 pic.twitter.com/GfG0TPOku4
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) August 1, 2023
BREAKING: Hunter Biden told his then-business partner Devon Archer to purchase a burner phone just 3 days before a meeting was set up with VP Joe Biden at the White House.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) August 1, 2023
Who buys a burner phone unless they are planning on doing something illegal?
Weeks later after the White… pic.twitter.com/4qkcZLFYFZ
The proof -
— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) August 1, 2023
2015 Burisma email to Hunter Biden concerning their "final goal", the "true purpose" of their "joint efforts":
Targeting "US policy-makers" to "close down for any cases/pursuits against" Burisma's owner in Ukraine. https://t.co/EnmA8Ylw28 pic.twitter.com/TUIH5aUNeR
https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.
https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
WATCH: CNN's Dana Bash covers for Joe and Hunter Biden's corruption:
— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) August 1, 2023
"We all understand that a lot of these relationships operate in the gray areas intentionally. Especially when you have somebody who is either related to a famous person or powerful person... you want your… pic.twitter.com/DM9HodBBtt
Hunter Biden: "I dont believe in lottery tickets anymore, but I do believe in the super chairman" https://t.co/s7JGy3hB7w The "super" is Che Feng who is under investigation for corruption. Hunter was right. Lottery tickets are long-shot gambles. Influence peddling is a sure thing
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) August 1, 2023
HuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Cobretti said:WATCH: CNN's Dana Bash covers for Joe and Hunter Biden's corruption:
— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) August 1, 2023
"We all understand that a lot of these relationships operate in the gray areas intentionally. Especially when you have somebody who is either related to a famous person or powerful person... you want your… pic.twitter.com/DM9HodBBtt
February of 2016, eh? That would have been at least three months after Biden demanded his firing (which was actually in December 2015, your edit is incorrect and I have no idea where your date came from), and about six months after then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly called for him to be fired (meaning it wasn't actually Biden making the demand, it was the US Government). Shokin was ultimately fired in March 2016, after taking office in February of 2015.Doc Holliday said:NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Shokin began seizing Zlochevsky's property as part of his inevestigation in Feb of 2016:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10691
If Hunter Biden was just selling the "illusion" of access...
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 1, 2023
Why did Joe Biden use a US taxpayer-funded $1 billion loan guarantee as leverage to get Viktor Shokin fired while investigation Burisma corruption?
Why did Burisma owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, claim he sent a $10 million…
No, it means no public moves were documented by your preferred sources. You're getting desperate.HuMcK said:February of 2016, eh? That would have been at least three months after Biden demanded his firing (which was actually in December 2015, your edit is incorrect and I have no idea where your date came from), and about six months after then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly called for him to be fired (meaning it wasn't actually Biden making the demand, it was the US Government). Shokin was ultimately fired in March 2016, after taking office in February of 2015.Doc Holliday said:NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Shokin began seizing Zlochevsky's property as part of his inevestigation in Feb of 2016:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10691
That means Shokin sat on the case and took no actions for a full year, even though he was being publicly called out for not investigating Zlochevsky in particular, and only made a move once it became clear how obvious his obstruction was and after we had already demanded his removal.
Nobody in here will care, but the timeline is not your friend. It directly contradicts the foundational premise of the allegation against Joe Biden.
The timeline isn't the problem.HuMcK said:February of 2016, eh? That would have been at least three months after Biden demanded his firing (which was actually in December 2015, your edit is incorrect and I have no idea where your date came from), and about six months after then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly called for him to be fired (meaning it wasn't actually Biden making the demand, it was the US Government). Shokin was ultimately fired in March 2016, after taking office in February of 2015.Doc Holliday said:NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Shokin began seizing Zlochevsky's property as part of his inevestigation in Feb of 2016:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10691
That means Shokin sat on the case and took no actions for a full year, even though he was being publicly called out for not investigating Zlochevsky in particular, and only made a move once it became clear how obvious his obstruction was and after we had already demanded his removal.
Nobody in here will care, but the timeline is not your friend. It directly contradicts the foundational premise of the allegation against Joe Biden.
The VP got on the phone 20 times? Shokin was fired? Millions of dollars paid to H Biden's company?HuMcK said:February of 2016, eh? That would have been at least three months after Biden demanded his firing (which was actually in December 2015, your edit is incorrect and I have no idea where your date came from), and about six months after then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly called for him to be fired (meaning it wasn't actually Biden making the demand, it was the US Government). Shokin was ultimately fired in March 2016, after taking office in February of 2015.Doc Holliday said:NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Shokin began seizing Zlochevsky's property as part of his inevestigation in Feb of 2016:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10691
That means Shokin sat on the case and took no actions for a full year, even though he was being publicly called out for not investigating Zlochevsky in particular, and only made a move once it became clear how obvious his obstruction was and after we had already demanded his removal.
Nobody in here will care, but the timeline is not your friend. It directly contradicts the foundational premise of the allegation against Joe Biden.
who puts that in an email??? 😂😂😂
— Tom 👖 (@thomasjeans) August 1, 2023
The proof -
— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) August 1, 2023
2015 Burisma email to Hunter Biden concerning their "final goal", the "true purpose" of their "joint efforts":
Targeting "US policy-makers" to "close down for any cases/pursuits against" Burisma's owner in Ukraine. https://t.co/EnmA8Ylw28 pic.twitter.com/TUIH5aUNeR
Next up: "It has long been known that Joe Biden received a share of Hunter's foreign payoffs, and according to six of the people who said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, it is not a serious legal or ethical issue." https://t.co/vbopF1mmKk
— John Hayward (@Doc_0) August 1, 2023
"Hey, Dad, I'm sitting here with board members of Burisma -- you remember, the guys paying me $83K per month because my last name is Biden. Say hi!"
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) August 1, 2023
"Oh, hi, guys, how's the weather over there in Kyiv?"
"Thanks, Dad, I'm gonna get back to this meeting, I'll talk to you later."
The next and final defense will be, "Of course Joe helped out Hunter! He loved his drug-addled prostitute-screwing son too much to let him operate in the real world! What do you expect of this amazing, AMAZING father?!"
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) August 1, 2023
Ep. 1778 - Biden’s Worst Nightmare Is Now Coming True pic.twitter.com/tWmUN8NpKK
— The Ben Shapiro Show (@BenShapiroShow) August 1, 2023
Osodecentx said:The VP got on the phone 20 times? Shokin was fired? Millions of dollars paid to H Biden's company?HuMcK said:February of 2016, eh? That would have been at least three months after Biden demanded his firing (which was actually in December 2015, your edit is incorrect and I have no idea where your date came from), and about six months after then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly called for him to be fired (meaning it wasn't actually Biden making the demand, it was the US Government). Shokin was ultimately fired in March 2016, after taking office in February of 2015.Doc Holliday said:NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Shokin began seizing Zlochevsky's property as part of his inevestigation in Feb of 2016:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10691
That means Shokin sat on the case and took no actions for a full year, even though he was being publicly called out for not investigating Zlochevsky in particular, and only made a move once it became clear how obvious his obstruction was and after we had already demanded his removal.
Nobody in here will care, but the timeline is not your friend. It directly contradicts the foundational premise of the allegation against Joe Biden.
Do you think we're all stupid?
IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley: "There are so many other people" who could testify against the Bidens but the @FBI is threatening witnesses & already spooked one from testifying pic.twitter.com/sNCLI4KrDL
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) August 1, 2023
Are Burisma executives really that stupid that they just kept paying $80,000/month to Hunter Biden based on illusory promises that, one day, Joe might help, but he never did?
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) August 1, 2023
If you're the CIA and pro-Biden media, why would you do this about a laptop with nothing on it? pic.twitter.com/V2ksuHK8zN
LAST YEAR:
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 31, 2023
"Mr. President, why haven't you sanctioned Russian oligarch Elena Baturina, who did business with your son?"
BIDEN: *confused stare*pic.twitter.com/krMy7RC9eF
The VP got on the phone 20 times? Shokin was fired? Millions of dollars paid to H Biden's company?HuMcK said:Osodecentx said:The VP got on the phone 20 times? Shokin was fired? Millions of dollars paid to H Biden's company?HuMcK said:February of 2016, eh? That would have been at least three months after Biden demanded his firing (which was actually in December 2015, your edit is incorrect and I have no idea where your date came from), and about six months after then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly called for him to be fired (meaning it wasn't actually Biden making the demand, it was the US Government). Shokin was ultimately fired in March 2016, after taking office in February of 2015.Doc Holliday said:NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Shokin began seizing Zlochevsky's property as part of his inevestigation in Feb of 2016:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10691
That means Shokin sat on the case and took no actions for a full year, even though he was being publicly called out for not investigating Zlochevsky in particular, and only made a move once it became clear how obvious his obstruction was and after we had already demanded his removal.
Nobody in here will care, but the timeline is not your friend. It directly contradicts the foundational premise of the allegation against Joe Biden.
Do you think we're all stupid?
Kind of, yeah. But that's beside the point.
Were the EU, IMF, and domestic anti corruption groups all gunning for Shokin just to do Hunter Biden a solid? If Shokin really was after Zlochevsky, then why did he wait until after people were publicly calling for his removal before doing anything? The narrative hasn't even stayed consistent: first Joe was supposedly protecting Hunter from investigation, but that went bust so now it's about protecting someone else.
Zlochevsky's right hand man says Shokin was actually shaking them down for money, in exchange for not investigating them. The US Ambassador to Ukraine literally called out Shokin for protecting Zlochevsky. Not some vague reference, he named Shokin and Zlochevsky directly, and called for Shokin to be fired in September 2015 (Joe followed up on behalf of the Obama administration in December). So did Ron fcking Johnson for god's sake!
I don't really care if Joe Biden talked to his son on the phone. Seriously, that is scraping the bottom of the barrel if we are supposed to get outraged that Joe answered the phone when his son called. By the way, the guy who says those calls happened also testified that he didn't hear any discussions related to Hunter's business on those calls.
SUPERCUT!
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) August 1, 2023
Hacks: Biden working the phones w/ Hunter's foreign biz partners is just him being a great dad pic.twitter.com/c7yEwcCSRp
Osodecentx said:The VP got on the phone 20 times? Shokin was fired? Millions of dollars paid to H Biden's company?HuMcK said:Osodecentx said:The VP got on the phone 20 times? Shokin was fired? Millions of dollars paid to H Biden's company?HuMcK said:February of 2016, eh? That would have been at least three months after Biden demanded his firing (which was actually in December 2015, your edit is incorrect and I have no idea where your date came from), and about six months after then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly called for him to be fired (meaning it wasn't actually Biden making the demand, it was the US Government). Shokin was ultimately fired in March 2016, after taking office in February of 2015.Doc Holliday said:NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Shokin began seizing Zlochevsky's property as part of his inevestigation in Feb of 2016:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10691
That means Shokin sat on the case and took no actions for a full year, even though he was being publicly called out for not investigating Zlochevsky in particular, and only made a move once it became clear how obvious his obstruction was and after we had already demanded his removal.
Nobody in here will care, but the timeline is not your friend. It directly contradicts the foundational premise of the allegation against Joe Biden.
Do you think we're all stupid?
Kind of, yeah. But that's beside the point.
Were the EU, IMF, and domestic anti corruption groups all gunning for Shokin just to do Hunter Biden a solid? If Shokin really was after Zlochevsky, then why did he wait until after people were publicly calling for his removal before doing anything? The narrative hasn't even stayed consistent: first Joe was supposedly protecting Hunter from investigation, but that went bust so now it's about protecting someone else.
Zlochevsky's right hand man says Shokin was actually shaking them down for money, in exchange for not investigating them. The US Ambassador to Ukraine literally called out Shokin for protecting Zlochevsky. Not some vague reference, he named Shokin and Zlochevsky directly, and called for Shokin to be fired in September 2015 (Joe followed up on behalf of the Obama administration in December). So did Ron fcking Johnson for god's sake!
I don't really care if Joe Biden talked to his son on the phone. Seriously, that is scraping the bottom of the barrel if we are supposed to get outraged that Joe answered the phone when his son called. By the way, the guy who says those calls happened also testified that he didn't hear any discussions related to Hunter's business on those calls.
Above is undisputed
lolHuMcK said:
Cobretti was helpful enough to provide an email further up that numerically lists the services and expertise they were offering, you should read it. Believe it or not, in the business world, connections do have value as well. Just ask Jared Kushner and his wife.
Of course you don't want to dwell on the timeline, because it hurts your argument, and I won't let you get by with blatantly misrepresenting it. You cared about the timing when you thought Biden asked for Shokin to be fired after finally making a move, but after learning that you were wrong you just want to move on.
I provided contemprary primary source documents that support my position and irrefutably show there were widespread calls for Shokin's removal way before Joe Biden ever did. You are relying on some stale and uncorroborated hearsay that even Bill Barr's DoJ wouldn't pursue.
So it was Burisma all along and we don't have to take @repMTG's word for it. We have the evidence.
— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) June 8, 2023
On Nov 2, 2015, the director of Burisma's board wrote Hunter demanding "deliverables", specifically to get "high-ranking US officials" to "close down" the cases against Burisma. https://t.co/971gQggFlL pic.twitter.com/FyxPdYJKHG
The VERY LAST THING Biden officially did as Vice President was travel to Ukraine to assure “anti-corruption”. Wink wink, nudge nudge. https://t.co/KvhPw1Fx1G pic.twitter.com/pwExyVRjbs
— FoiaFan (@15poundstogo) August 1, 2023
Nixon wishes you had been the editor of WaPo in summer of 72HuMcK said:Osodecentx said:The VP got on the phone 20 times? Shokin was fired? Millions of dollars paid to H Biden's company?HuMcK said:Osodecentx said:The VP got on the phone 20 times? Shokin was fired? Millions of dollars paid to H Biden's company?HuMcK said:February of 2016, eh? That would have been at least three months after Biden demanded his firing (which was actually in December 2015, your edit is incorrect and I have no idea where your date came from), and about six months after then-US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly called for him to be fired (meaning it wasn't actually Biden making the demand, it was the US Government). Shokin was ultimately fired in March 2016, after taking office in February of 2015.Doc Holliday said:NahHuMcK said:
I just found all of these sources that pre-date that email, all saying Shokin was refusing to investigate corruption. Biden must have a time machine or something.https://archive.kyivpost.com/kyiv-post-plus/release-of-diamond-prosecutor-shows-fatal-flaws-of-law-enforcement-394791.htmlQuote:
The arrests triggered a scandal when evidence emerged that Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin and his deputies Volodymyr Huzyr and Yury Stolyarchuk were trying to pressure Sakvarelidze's investigators to halt the case against Korniyets and Shapakin.https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.htmlQuote:
He called for an investigation of officials within the Prosecutor-General's Office who he says stymied efforts to pursue tens of millions of dollars in "illicit assets" that former Ukrainian official Mykola Zlochevskiy held in Britain.
Zlochevskiy served as environment and natural resources minister under former President Viktor Yanukovych, a Kremlin ally whose ouster amid mass street protests in 2014 triggered events that led to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and a bloody war with Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Zlochevskiy, who earned a reputation for lavishness, was placed on Ukraine's most-wanted list in December for a host of alleged economic crimes.
Pyatt said that "those responsible for subverting the case" against Zlochevskiy "should -- at a minimum -- be summarily terminated."
Since his appointment by Poroshenko in February, Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych.https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/Quote:
The current imbroglio centers on Shokin, a Poroshenko ally and protector of the country's corrupt old guard. Ukrainian reformers, including prominent civil society organizations and more than 100 members of the Verkhovna Rada, have demanded that Poroshenko fire Shokina request Poroshenko has ignored.
Shokin began seizing Zlochevsky's property as part of his inevestigation in Feb of 2016:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10691
That means Shokin sat on the case and took no actions for a full year, even though he was being publicly called out for not investigating Zlochevsky in particular, and only made a move once it became clear how obvious his obstruction was and after we had already demanded his removal.
Nobody in here will care, but the timeline is not your friend. It directly contradicts the foundational premise of the allegation against Joe Biden.
Do you think we're all stupid?
Kind of, yeah. But that's beside the point.
Were the EU, IMF, and domestic anti corruption groups all gunning for Shokin just to do Hunter Biden a solid? If Shokin really was after Zlochevsky, then why did he wait until after people were publicly calling for his removal before doing anything? The narrative hasn't even stayed consistent: first Joe was supposedly protecting Hunter from investigation, but that went bust so now it's about protecting someone else.
Zlochevsky's right hand man says Shokin was actually shaking them down for money, in exchange for not investigating them. The US Ambassador to Ukraine literally called out Shokin for protecting Zlochevsky. Not some vague reference, he named Shokin and Zlochevsky directly, and called for Shokin to be fired in September 2015 (Joe followed up on behalf of the Obama administration in December). So did Ron fcking Johnson for god's sake!
I don't really care if Joe Biden talked to his son on the phone. Seriously, that is scraping the bottom of the barrel if we are supposed to get outraged that Joe answered the phone when his son called. By the way, the guy who says those calls happened also testified that he didn't hear any discussions related to Hunter's business on those calls.
Above is undisputed
And? What is the connection, if any, of those 20 phone calls to Ukraine, because I'm not awre that they were even said to be? Hunter Biden got paid?? The horror! Wait until you learn how much money Biden's opponent made from foreign sources...
I've already provided numerous contemporary sources in this thread of multiple disparate groups calling for Shokin to be fired. Our Ambassador to Ukraine even said publicly that Shokin was protecting Zlochevsky, and that's why he should be fired. For whatever reason, you seem to be pretending those sources don't exist.
This is all based on far more vague "evidence" than what we had in the Trump/Russia affair, and you called that a "hoax". Why the double standard now??