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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation. And even so in spite of billions in international aid. It is almost like people stuck in a poverty-welfare cycle with generations dependent on others and stuck in psychological malaise about how oppressed they are.

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Everyone knows that in war, men are allowed to kill men. No one in US would care if Hamas had attacked or ambushed the IDF. Sucks but that’s how it goes. War is war. Hamas invaded a rave and raped and tortured and then displayed tourist women as trophies. Palestine is fucked.

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) October 8, 2023

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Yes, Palestine will be reduced to rubble as it should. The cockroaches will have no place to hide and will all be given a one way ticket to see Allah.

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Are you posting this from your radical settler compound in Havat Gilad with a fan boy poster of Meir Kahane hanging on the wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

If you're not in fact a radical Jewish setter fanatic then your post is even more insane.

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Wikipedia. LOL!!!

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Here is non wiki article about him....a truly horrible racist Jewish supremacist and scum bag.

Someone you would love.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/2021-03-26/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israel-election-who-was-meir-kahane-and-why-is-his-racist-legacy-relevant-again/0000017f-db3c-df62-a9ff-dfffe2fa0000

[Who Was Meir Kahane, and Why Is His Racist Legacy Relevant Again

Brooklyn-born Meir Kahane was banned from Israeli politics in 1988, but the spirit of his anti-Arab Kach party lives on in an extremist alliance that just won six Knesset]

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Hamas lit this fuse. Over 800 dead in an unprovoked attack. Hope Israel releases their full fury on Hamas and they cease to exist.

Israel does not need our help. We just need to stay the Hell out of their way.

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Whilst this latest event is inexcusable and deplorable, Israel is absolutely not blameless in this whole sorry affair (referring to the general state of Israel-Palestinian relations, not this specific incident)

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Of course, but there are degrees of blame. I put it at 85% Palestinians and Arabs in general; 15% Israel.

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Those are pretty extreme numbers when you consider that only one side is actively occupying the land of the other side

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You have a tendency to forget the initial act of aggression. First, Russia invading Ukraine. Now, the Arabs attacking Israel and losing that land. There is no occupying force. Israel didn't invade they were attacked.

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Oh please.

In this case (70 years of occupation and brutalization by a more powerful State) the Palestinians are much closer to the Ukrainians in such an example.

And the Israelis more similar to the Russians in their occupation of Donbas/Crimea.

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How did Israel get the West Bank and Gaza??? You remember? It is more of an immigration issue, those areas have been Israeli for 70 years. It is not occupation, it is Israel.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

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My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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Since there has never been a nation known as Palestine... I would assume they are quite familiar with the concept.

British occupation
Ottoman Turkish occupation
Crusader occupation
Fatimah occupation
Byzantine occupation
Roman occupation
Persian occupation
Babylonia occupation
Assyria occupation
Jewish occupation
Cannanite occupation
Egyptian occupation

Hmmm... never a Palestinian occupation... strange.

It's all bull***** They are Arabs, but to admit that would bring up too many hard questions... like "Why won't their Arab brothers allow them to integrate into Arab communities, rather than forcing them into refugee camps?"

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Everyone knows that in war, men are allowed to kill men. No one in US would care if Hamas had attacked or ambushed the IDF. Sucks but that’s how it goes. War is war. Hamas invaded a rave and raped and tortured and then displayed tourist women as trophies. Palestine is fucked.

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) October 8, 2023

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Yes, Palestine will be reduced to rubble as it should. The cockroaches will have no place to hide and will all be given a one way ticket to see Allah.

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Are you posting this from your radical settler compound in Havat Gilad with a fan boy poster of Meir Kahane hanging on the wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

If you're not in fact a radical Jewish setter fanatic then your post is even more insane.

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Wikipedia. LOL!!!

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Here is non wiki article about him....a truly horrible racist Jewish supremacist and scum bag.

Someone you would love.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/2021-03-26/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israel-election-who-was-meir-kahane-and-why-is-his-racist-legacy-relevant-again/0000017f-db3c-df62-a9ff-dfffe2fa0000

[Who Was Meir Kahane, and Why Is His Racist Legacy Relevant Again

Brooklyn-born Meir Kahane was banned from Israeli politics in 1988, but the spirit of his anti-Arab Kach party lives on in an extremist alliance that just won six Knesset]

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Hamas lit this fuse. Over 800 dead in an unprovoked attack. Hope Israel releases their full fury on Hamas and they cease to exist.

Israel does not need our help. We just need to stay the Hell out of their way.

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Whilst this latest event is inexcusable and deplorable, Israel is absolutely not blameless in this whole sorry affair (referring to the general state of Israel-Palestinian relations, not this specific incident)

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Of course, but there are degrees of blame. I put it at 85% Palestinians and Arabs in general; 15% Israel.

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Those are pretty extreme numbers when you consider that only one side is actively occupying the land of the other side

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You have a tendency to forget the initial act of aggression. First, Russia invading Ukraine. Now, the Arabs attacking Israel and losing that land. There is no occupying force. Israel didn't invade they were attacked.

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Oh please.

In this case (70 years of occupation and brutalization by a more powerful State) the Palestinians are much closer to the Ukrainians in such an example.

And the Israelis more similar to the Russians in their occupation of Donbas/Crimea.

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those areas have been Israeli for 70 years. It is not occupation, it is Israel.

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Uh not it's not.

[Palestinian territory encompassing the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem has been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. Since then, the Israeli government has established a two-tiered legal and political system that provides comprehensive rights for Jewish Israeli settlers while imposing military rule and control on Palestinians without any basic protections or rights under international law.]

[Israel's occupation of Palestinian territory is unlawful under international law due to its permanence and the Israeli government's de facto annexation policies, a UN-appointed Commission of Inquiry said in its first report, published on Thursday. ]

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/10/1129722

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Everyone knows that in war, men are allowed to kill men. No one in US would care if Hamas had attacked or ambushed the IDF. Sucks but that’s how it goes. War is war. Hamas invaded a rave and raped and tortured and then displayed tourist women as trophies. Palestine is fucked.

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) October 8, 2023

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Yes, Palestine will be reduced to rubble as it should. The cockroaches will have no place to hide and will all be given a one way ticket to see Allah.

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Are you posting this from your radical settler compound in Havat Gilad with a fan boy poster of Meir Kahane hanging on the wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

If you're not in fact a radical Jewish setter fanatic then your post is even more insane.

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Wikipedia. LOL!!!

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Here is non wiki article about him....a truly horrible racist Jewish supremacist and scum bag.

Someone you would love.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/2021-03-26/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israel-election-who-was-meir-kahane-and-why-is-his-racist-legacy-relevant-again/0000017f-db3c-df62-a9ff-dfffe2fa0000

[Who Was Meir Kahane, and Why Is His Racist Legacy Relevant Again

Brooklyn-born Meir Kahane was banned from Israeli politics in 1988, but the spirit of his anti-Arab Kach party lives on in an extremist alliance that just won six Knesset]

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Hamas lit this fuse. Over 800 dead in an unprovoked attack. Hope Israel releases their full fury on Hamas and they cease to exist.

Israel does not need our help. We just need to stay the Hell out of their way.

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Whilst this latest event is inexcusable and deplorable, Israel is absolutely not blameless in this whole sorry affair (referring to the general state of Israel-Palestinian relations, not this specific incident)

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Of course, but there are degrees of blame. I put it at 85% Palestinians and Arabs in general; 15% Israel.

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Those are pretty extreme numbers when you consider that only one side is actively occupying the land of the other side

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yeah... that old line is just bull*****

The Jews were given a very small piece of land by the British. Ever since then, the Jews have been under attack by the muslims animals. It is nothing more than Jew hatred by muslims... been going on since that insane lunatic Mohammad (may he continue to burn in hell) created that horrible, devil-worshipping relgion.

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I can't tell if you're a goofy boomer-con wanting to relive the blood soaked days of the Bush administration or some strange Jewish supremacist kid posting from your computer in Brooklyn.

Lots of innocent people have died and are about to die on both sides.

This woman, nor those at the rave, are our enemies. I wish people would get it. I pray she and her family survive this. Please post more updates on her if you see them. https://t.co/QMw056yqwG

— Cassandra MacDonald (@CassandraRules) October 9, 2023

100,000 Israeli troops ready to invade Gaza.

IDF promises to wipe out Hamas military capability and make sure they no longer govern Gaza.

A regime change war is coming. And Israel must know it doesn’t have the capability to install a new gov.

I expect Gaza to just be destroyed https://t.co/F7K1J2iYf7

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) October 9, 2023

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More than 77% of the vote in Gaza, went for Hamas. They elected a terrorist organization whose sole purpose is to kill all Jews, as their government leadership.

I'm not going to shed a bunch of tears for them... they chose this fate for themselves.

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Do yourself a favor and educate yourself just a little bit.

Hamas (besides in large part being a creation of Israel) came to power not to kill all the Jews but because it offer social services and promise of jobs and a better life to the people in the open air prison that is Gaza.

They didn't say "elect us and we will get you all killed in a war the Israel military"

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You are a total ****ing moron!

Hamas is a terrorist organization which started in the 1980s, as an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. In their original charter, it clearly states that they are dedicated to the eradication of Jews everywhere, and especially in the Holy Lands.

My goodness... you are borderline ******ed. How can you not even know the most basic information?

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Yes, Israel helped create it out of factions within the MB….you low rent moron






Of course it's a terrorist organization (technically a political party with an armed terrorist wing).

But it did not emerge from the void. It was created because of conditions in Gaza (70 years of brutal and racist military occupation) and on the promise of some kind of change for the Palestinian people. That is why it won their support…not just promising holy war.

They are now leading the Palestinian people into disaster…that is obvious enough…but it's important to know the whole story.

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Of course it's a terrorist organization (technically a political party with an armed terrorist wing).

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Everyone knows that in war, men are allowed to kill men. No one in US would care if Hamas had attacked or ambushed the IDF. Sucks but that’s how it goes. War is war. Hamas invaded a rave and raped and tortured and then displayed tourist women as trophies. Palestine is fucked.

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) October 8, 2023

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Yes, Palestine will be reduced to rubble as it should. The cockroaches will have no place to hide and will all be given a one way ticket to see Allah.

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Are you posting this from your radical settler compound in Havat Gilad with a fan boy poster of Meir Kahane hanging on the wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

If you're not in fact a radical Jewish setter fanatic then your post is even more insane.

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Wikipedia. LOL!!!

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Here is non wiki article about him....a truly horrible racist Jewish supremacist and scum bag.

Someone you would love.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/2021-03-26/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israel-election-who-was-meir-kahane-and-why-is-his-racist-legacy-relevant-again/0000017f-db3c-df62-a9ff-dfffe2fa0000

[Who Was Meir Kahane, and Why Is His Racist Legacy Relevant Again

Brooklyn-born Meir Kahane was banned from Israeli politics in 1988, but the spirit of his anti-Arab Kach party lives on in an extremist alliance that just won six Knesset]

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Hamas lit this fuse. Over 800 dead in an unprovoked attack. Hope Israel releases their full fury on Hamas and they cease to exist.

Israel does not need our help. We just need to stay the Hell out of their way.

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Whilst this latest event is inexcusable and deplorable, Israel is absolutely not blameless in this whole sorry affair (referring to the general state of Israel-Palestinian relations, not this specific incident)

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Of course, but there are degrees of blame. I put it at 85% Palestinians and Arabs in general; 15% Israel.

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Those are pretty extreme numbers when you consider that only one side is actively occupying the land of the other side

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You have a tendency to forget the initial act of aggression. First, Russia invading Ukraine. Now, the Arabs attacking Israel and losing that land. There is no occupying force. Israel didn't invade they were attacked.

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Oh please.

In this case (70 years of occupation and brutalization by a more powerful State) the Palestinians are much closer to the Ukrainians in such an example.

And the Israelis more similar to the Russians in their occupation of Donbas/Crimea.

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those areas have been Israeli for 70 years. It is not occupation, it is Israel.

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Uh not it's not.

[Palestinian territory encompassing the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem has been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. Since then, the Israeli government has established a two-tiered legal and political system that provides comprehensive rights for Jewish Israeli settlers while imposing military rule and control on Palestinians without any basic protections or rights under international law.]

[Israel's occupation of Palestinian territory is unlawful under international law due to its permanence and the Israeli government's de facto annexation policies, a UN-appointed Commission of Inquiry said in its first report, published on Thursday. ]

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/10/1129722

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Same UN with Iran on the human rights council , right?

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

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My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

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So that justifies killing and raping Israelis?

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Everyone knows that in war, men are allowed to kill men. No one in US would care if Hamas had attacked or ambushed the IDF. Sucks but that’s how it goes. War is war. Hamas invaded a rave and raped and tortured and then displayed tourist women as trophies. Palestine is fucked.

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) October 8, 2023

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Yes, Palestine will be reduced to rubble as it should. The cockroaches will have no place to hide and will all be given a one way ticket to see Allah.

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Are you posting this from your radical settler compound in Havat Gilad with a fan boy poster of Meir Kahane hanging on the wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

If you're not in fact a radical Jewish setter fanatic then your post is even more insane.

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Wikipedia. LOL!!!

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Here is non wiki article about him....a truly horrible racist Jewish supremacist and scum bag.

Someone you would love.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/2021-03-26/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israel-election-who-was-meir-kahane-and-why-is-his-racist-legacy-relevant-again/0000017f-db3c-df62-a9ff-dfffe2fa0000

[Who Was Meir Kahane, and Why Is His Racist Legacy Relevant Again

Brooklyn-born Meir Kahane was banned from Israeli politics in 1988, but the spirit of his anti-Arab Kach party lives on in an extremist alliance that just won six Knesset]

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Hamas lit this fuse. Over 800 dead in an unprovoked attack. Hope Israel releases their full fury on Hamas and they cease to exist.

Israel does not need our help. We just need to stay the Hell out of their way.

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Whilst this latest event is inexcusable and deplorable, Israel is absolutely not blameless in this whole sorry affair (referring to the general state of Israel-Palestinian relations, not this specific incident)

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Of course, but there are degrees of blame. I put it at 85% Palestinians and Arabs in general; 15% Israel.

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Those are pretty extreme numbers when you consider that only one side is actively occupying the land of the other side

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You have a tendency to forget the initial act of aggression. First, Russia invading Ukraine. Now, the Arabs attacking Israel and losing that land. There is no occupying force. Israel didn't invade they were attacked.

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Oh please.

In this case (70 years of occupation and brutalization by a more powerful State) the Palestinians are much closer to the Ukrainians in such an example.

And the Israelis more similar to the Russians in their occupation of Donbas/Crimea.

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How did Israel get the West Bank and Gaza??? You remember? It is more of an immigration issue, those areas have been Israeli for 70 years. It is not occupation, it is Israel.

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Israel got the land when arabs declared war on Israel

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Redbrickbear said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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Since there has never been a nation known as Palestine... I would assume they are quite familiar with the concept.

British occupation
Ottoman Turkish occupation
Crusader occupation
Fatimah occupation
Byzantine occupation
Roman occupation
Persian occupation
Babylonia occupation
Assyria occupation
Jewish occupation
Cannanite occupation
Egyptian occupation

Hmmm... never a Palestinian occupation... strange.

It's all bull***** They are Arabs…

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I'm not sure why you're rambling about.

There never was a USA until it was created. There never was a Canada until it was created.
There never was a Cuban State until it was created.
There never was a Brazil until it was created.

Being "created" and not having a long history is besides the point.

Since 1948 there have been two States in the eastern Levant region…a former province of the Ottoman Empire and then mandate of the British Empire.

One called Israel (intended for Jews) and one called Palestine (intended for Arabs)

And that is what the international community still recognizes. Two states for two political-cultural-ethnic communities.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

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My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

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Again... you are such an idiot.

Tens of thousands of Arabs never left in 48. They stayed and became citizens of Israel. Their decedent's continue to enjoy the benefits of citizenship.

So the LIE that they were forced out of Israel is just that... a fabricated lie.

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You ever get tired of being wrong?

[In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population fled from their homes or were expelled by Zionist militias, during the 1948 Palestine war. The exodus was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba, in which between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were destroyed, village wells were poisoned in a biological warfare programme and properties were looted to prevent Palestinian refugees from returning]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

Some stayed yes….but half the pre-war Arab population was forcibly expelled

[The U.N. is marking the 75th anniversary of Palestinians' displacement]

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176097958/un-nakba-day-explained-anniversary-palestine-israel

ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

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My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

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My God.

You are such a horrible person for saying this.

Texas was in a situation where Mexico was a brutal dictatorship.
Yet our ancestors didn't resort to raping and murdering innocent women & children.
What kind of sick ******* attempts to justify such barbaric atrocities?

You are disgusting.

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Listen little lady…I don't give one cow fart what some old idiot boomer sitting on his fat ass in Texas thinks about me.

If you care so much about this war you should head over there and fight.

I bet the the IDF would let you shoot some Palestinian kids in Gaza.

Palestinians commit atrocities. Israelis commit atrocities.

It's a brutal racial-ethnic war….but you only seem to care if it's Israelis getting hurt

ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

---

Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

---

My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

---

My God.

You are such a horrible person for saying this.

Texas was in a situation where Mexico was a brutal dictatorship.
Yet our ancestors didn't resort to raping and murdering innocent women & children.
What kind of sick ******* attempts to justify such barbaric atrocities?

You are disgusting.

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What even funnier is that besides not understanding the hypothetical example I was giving you…about a Modern invasion of Texas…is I bet your Ellis island family was not even here for the Texas war of independence.

While mine were here for all of great conflicts that defined North America (war against the French & Indians, American revolution, Texian revolution, war of Secession)

Your ancestors probably didn't hit these shores until mine had already made them safe and secure.

Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

---

Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

---

I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

---

My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

---

My God.

You are such a horrible person for saying this.

Texas was in a situation where Mexico was a brutal dictatorship.
Yet our ancestors didn't resort to raping and murdering innocent women & children.
What kind of sick ******* attempts to justify such barbaric atrocities?

You are disgusting.

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Listen little lady…I don't give one cow fart what some old idiot boomer sitting on his fat ass in Texas thinks about me.

If you care so much about this war you should head over there and fight.

I bet the the IDF would let you shoot some Palestinian kids in Gaza.

Palestinians commit atrocities. Israelis commit atrocities.

It's a brutal racial-ethnic war….but you only seem to care if it's Israelis getting hurt

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Lol

Just because you are too stupid to see the plain truth, doesn't mean that I will treat you with kid gloves.

You obviously have had your fill of the leftist Kool-Aid.

I'm not a old as you think... but I'm old enough to know that I have nothing to fear from an idiot like you.

Anytime you want, just come to Texas and I'll be happy to teach you a little respect for your betters.

ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

---

Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

---

I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

---

My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

---

Again... you are such an idiot.

Tens of thousands of Arabs never left in 48. They stayed and became citizens of Israel. Their decedent's continue to enjoy the benefits of citizenship.

So the LIE that they were forced out of Israel is just that... a fabricated lie.

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You ever get tired of being wrong?

[In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population fled from their homes or were expelled by Zionist militias, during the 1948 Palestine war. The exodus was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba, in which between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were destroyed, village wells were poisoned in a biological warfare programme and properties were looted to prevent Palestinian refugees from returning]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

Some stayed yes….but half the pre-war Arab population was forcibly expelled

[The U.N. is marking the 75th anniversary of Palestinians' displacement]

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176097958/un-nakba-day-explained-anniversary-palestine-israel

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Let me get this straight...

The Jews embarked on a campaign of genocide... but then they let hundreds of thousands of Arabs survive?

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Read this then get back to me.

http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/JVP-Nakba-Fact-Sheet.pdf

Yes atrocities and ethnic cleansing took place.

I'm not sure why you are denying this?

Both sides in '48 committed atrocities and tried to take as much land as they possibly could…ethnic cleansing was how any rational person would characterize the event.

Arab citizens in Israel today are survivors of those episodes of ethnic violence.

Just as the Jewish citizens are as well

Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

---

Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

---

I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

---

My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

---

My God.

You are such a horrible person for saying this.

Texas was in a situation where Mexico was a brutal dictatorship.
Yet our ancestors didn't resort to raping and murdering innocent women & children.
What kind of sick ******* attempts to justify such barbaric atrocities?

You are disgusting.

---

What even funnier is that besides not understanding the hypothetical example I was giving you…about a Modern invasion of Texas…is I bet your Ellis island family was not even here for the Texas war of independence.

While mine were here here for all of great conflicts (war against the French & Indians, American revolution, Texian revolution, war of Secession)

Your ancestors probably didn't hit these shores until mine had already made them safe and secure.

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Wow.

Your idiocy never fails.

One of my direct ancestors signed the Declaration of Independance.
On the other side of the family, one signed the Texas Declaration of Independence.

Care to try again, moron?

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Everyone knows that in war, men are allowed to kill men. No one in US would care if Hamas had attacked or ambushed the IDF. Sucks but that’s how it goes. War is war. Hamas invaded a rave and raped and tortured and then displayed tourist women as trophies. Palestine is fucked.

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) October 8, 2023

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Yes, Palestine will be reduced to rubble as it should. The cockroaches will have no place to hide and will all be given a one way ticket to see Allah.

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Are you posting this from your radical settler compound in Havat Gilad with a fan boy poster of Meir Kahane hanging on the wall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane

If you're not in fact a radical Jewish setter fanatic then your post is even more insane.

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Wikipedia. LOL!!!

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Here is non wiki article about him....a truly horrible racist Jewish supremacist and scum bag.

Someone you would love.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/2021-03-26/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israel-election-who-was-meir-kahane-and-why-is-his-racist-legacy-relevant-again/0000017f-db3c-df62-a9ff-dfffe2fa0000

[Who Was Meir Kahane, and Why Is His Racist Legacy Relevant Again

Brooklyn-born Meir Kahane was banned from Israeli politics in 1988, but the spirit of his anti-Arab Kach party lives on in an extremist alliance that just won six Knesset]

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Hamas lit this fuse. Over 800 dead in an unprovoked attack. Hope Israel releases their full fury on Hamas and they cease to exist.

Israel does not need our help. We just need to stay the Hell out of their way.

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Whilst this latest event is inexcusable and deplorable, Israel is absolutely not blameless in this whole sorry affair (referring to the general state of Israel-Palestinian relations, not this specific incident)

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Of course, but there are degrees of blame. I put it at 85% Palestinians and Arabs in general; 15% Israel.

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Those are pretty extreme numbers when you consider that only one side is actively occupying the land of the other side

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How does one occupy its own country?

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When did Gaza and the West Bank become a legal part of Israel?

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Wars, like elections, have consequences.

I suppose you want to give back the USA due to its illegal, military occupation of North America?

Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

---

I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

---

My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

---

Again... you are such an idiot.

Tens of thousands of Arabs never left in 48. They stayed and became citizens of Israel. Their decedent's continue to enjoy the benefits of citizenship.

So the LIE that they were forced out of Israel is just that... a fabricated lie.

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You ever get tired of being wrong?

[In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population fled from their homes or were expelled by Zionist militias, during the 1948 Palestine war. The exodus was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba, in which between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were destroyed, village wells were poisoned in a biological warfare programme and properties were looted to prevent Palestinian refugees from returning]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

Some stayed yes….but half the pre-war Arab population was forcibly expelled

[The U.N. is marking the 75th anniversary of Palestinians' displacement]

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176097958/un-nakba-day-explained-anniversary-palestine-israel

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Let me get this straight...

The Jews embarked on a campaign of genocide... but then they let hundreds of thousands of Arabs survive?

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Read this then get back to me.

http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/JVP-Nakba-Fact-Sheet.pdf

Yes atrocities and ethnic cleansing took place.

I'm not sure why you are denying this?

Both sides in '48 committed atrocities and tried to take as much land as they possibly could…ethnic cleansing was how any rational person would characterize the event.

Arab citizens in Israel today are survivors of those episodes of ethnic violence.

Just as the Jewish citizens are as well

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So you want me to trust information produced by an anti-Israel organization?
Lol

Next you will post selections from Mein Kampf.

Do you even know the definition of the word "propaganda"?

The rapes and torture are okay because Israel defended itself 70 years ago...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?id=100063626350899&story_fbid=1534852907268832

How Obama Aided And Abetted Hamas Attacks

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/hamas-emboldened-by-mideast-policies-of-obama/?fbclid=IwAR12pOAnk2IHuFBqhrxFeIqNG9LWyX615BhfupIOEi35xVQZjp4DdBEBu08

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

---

I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

---

My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

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My God.

You are such a horrible person for saying this.

Texas was in a situation where Mexico was a brutal dictatorship.
Yet our ancestors didn't resort to raping and murdering innocent women & children.
What kind of sick ******* attempts to justify such barbaric atrocities?

You are disgusting.

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What even funnier is that besides not understanding the hypothetical example I was giving you…about a Modern invasion of Texas…is I bet your Ellis island family was not even here for the Texas war of independence.

While mine were here here for all of great conflicts (war against the French & Indians, American revolution, Texian revolution, war of Secession)

Your ancestors probably didn't hit these shores until mine had already made them safe and secure.

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Wow.

Your idiocy never fails.

One of my direct ancestors signed the Declaration of Independance.
On the other side of the family, one signed the Texas Declaration of Independence.

Care to try again, moron?

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Naw…I doubt it.

You don't have the vibe of a Founders descendent

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

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My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

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Again... you are such an idiot.

Tens of thousands of Arabs never left in 48. They stayed and became citizens of Israel. Their decedent's continue to enjoy the benefits of citizenship.

So the LIE that they were forced out of Israel is just that... a fabricated lie.

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You ever get tired of being wrong?

[In 1948 more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population fled from their homes or were expelled by Zionist militias, during the 1948 Palestine war. The exodus was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba, in which between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were destroyed, village wells were poisoned in a biological warfare programme and properties were looted to prevent Palestinian refugees from returning]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

Some stayed yes….but half the pre-war Arab population was forcibly expelled

[The U.N. is marking the 75th anniversary of Palestinians' displacement]

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176097958/un-nakba-day-explained-anniversary-palestine-israel

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Let me get this straight...

The Jews embarked on a campaign of genocide... but then they let hundreds of thousands of Arabs survive?

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Read this then get back to me.

http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/JVP-Nakba-Fact-Sheet.pdf

Yes atrocities and ethnic cleansing took place.

I'm not sure why you are denying this?

Both sides in '48 committed atrocities and tried to take as much land as they possibly could…ethnic cleansing was how any rational person would characterize the event.

Arab citizens in Israel today are survivors of those episodes of ethnic violence.

Just as the Jewish citizens are as well

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So you want me to trust information produced by an anti-Israel organization?
Lol

Next you will post selections from Mein Kampf.

Do you even know the definition of the word "propaganda"?

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Jewish voices for peace organization is like Mein Kampf?

My God…

KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

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I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

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My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

---

My God.

You are such a horrible person for saying this.

Texas was in a situation where Mexico was a brutal dictatorship.
Yet our ancestors didn't resort to raping and murdering innocent women & children.
What kind of sick ******* attempts to justify such barbaric atrocities?

You are disgusting.

---

What even funnier is that besides not understanding the hypothetical example I was giving you…about a Modern invasion of Texas…is I bet your Ellis island family was not even here for the Texas war of independence.

While mine were here here for all of great conflicts (war against the French & Indians, American revolution, Texian revolution, war of Secession)

Your ancestors probably didn't hit these shores until mine had already made them safe and secure.

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Wow.

Your idiocy never fails.

One of my direct ancestors signed the Declaration of Independance.
On the other side of the family, one signed the Texas Declaration of Independence.

Care to try again, moron?

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Naw…I doubt it.

You don't have the vibe of a Founders descendent

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You are a reasonable guy.

Toss me some specifics.

Why are doing your level best to white wash these horrific rapes, murders and tortures conducted by Hamas in the middle of the night on Israel civilians ? These sick animals made a point to video the agonies of their victims and post them on social media.

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I'm really not white washing them at all.

Hamas is obviously a terrorist organization.

It just pointing out the massive historic blind spot that people on this board have for Israel (that does no wrong in their eyes)

Both sides teach ethnic hatred and kill each other…yet there seems to be no acknowledgment of this plain fact.

Nor any sense of what they would do if they were living under 70 years of hostile military occupation…and living as 2nd class citizens in an open air prison in Gaza

Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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From the HAMAS Charter:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

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Yea, it's a radical Islamist party (with an armed wing) that broke off from the MB (with Israeli support)

Did you expect it to say nice things?

[Hamas's charter defines historic Palestine - as Islamic land and it rules out any permanent peace with what it terms a terrorist state (Israel)

The document also repeatedly makes attacks on Jewish "power", drawing charges that the movement is anti-Semitic.

In 2017, Hamas produced a new policy document that softened some of its stated positions and used more measured language.

There was still no recognition of Israel, but it did formally accept the creation of an interim Palestinian state in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - what are known as pre-1967 lines.

The document also stresses that Hamas's struggle is not with Jews but with "occupying Zionist aggressors". Israel said the group was "attempting to fool the world".]



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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I think you lost track what you were ranting about.

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lol no ranting.

Simply pointing out that having a negative view toward Israel as a "Zionist terrorist state" is not surprising for them or anyone else over there.

Are you shocked by this fact?

How exactly would you view Israel if you had lived under 70 years of military occupation?

---

I would probably move on with my life. These are the only people who cling to refugee status from generation to generation..

---

My brother…Israel won't let them return to their homes in Israel proper that they were driven from.

And the local Arab states won't give them citizenship, work permits, and either send them back to Gaza/West Bank or keep them in squalor in refugee camps.

Imagine if your family was driven from their Central Texas home by the Mexican army…and your options were stay in a open air prison on the Texas coast about 41km long and 12km wide….With about 2 million other poor refugees surround by concrete walls, barbed wire, and Mexican army installations.

Or flee to the USA (where they won't give you citizenship and keep you in refugee camps in poverty and misery)

Now do this for generations…

What kind of effect to you think that would have on you and your family?

Would it maybe "radicalize" you?

---

My God.

You are such a horrible person for saying this.

Texas was in a situation where Mexico was a brutal dictatorship.
Yet our ancestors didn't resort to raping and murdering innocent women & children.
What kind of sick ******* attempts to justify such barbaric atrocities?

You are disgusting.

---

What even funnier is that besides not understanding the hypothetical example I was giving you…about a Modern invasion of Texas…is I bet your Ellis island family was not even here for the Texas war of independence.

While mine were here here for all of great conflicts (war against the French & Indians, American revolution, Texian revolution, war of Secession)

Your ancestors probably didn't hit these shores until mine had already made them safe and secure.

---

Wow.

Your idiocy never fails.

One of my direct ancestors signed the Declaration of Independance.
On the other side of the family, one signed the Texas Declaration of Independence.

Care to try again, moron?

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Naw…I doubt it.

You don't have the vibe of a Founders descendent

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You are a reasonable guy.

Toss me some specifics.

Why are doing your level best to white wash these horrific rapes, murders and tortures conducted by Hamas in the middle of the night on Israel civilians ? These sick animals made a point to video the agonies of their victims and post them on social media.

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I'm really not white washing them at all.

Hamas is obviously a terrorist organization.

It just pointing out the massive historic blind spot that people on this board have for Israel (that does no wrong in their eyes)

Both sides teach ethnic hatred and kill each other…yet there seems to be no acknowledgment of this plain fact.

Nor any sense of what they would do if they were living under 70 years of hostile military occupation…and living as 2nd class citizens in an open air prison in Gaza

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The people that side with Israel studied at least 71 years of history. You're one year off from understanding the situation.