A Palestinian woman surrounded by media sheds ‘tears’ while clutching a plastic baby doll that she is attempting to pass off as her dead child during a staged Hamas propaganda video. pic.twitter.com/V4nRvriVHG

— Oli London (@OliLondonTV) December 1, 2023

I'm no Palestinian lover and Hamas is definitely known for false propaganda, but it's possible that's actually a dead baby. Bodies look different when lifeless and deceased.

Blinken is an embarrassment to the USA and an existential threat to the state of Israel!

Surrender: Blinken Tells Israel It Lacks ‘Credit’ to Defeat Hamas https://t.co/UxJwalyHsB

— Lou Dobbs (@LouDobbs) December 1, 2023

Blinken to Israel: we will allow you to kill Hamas terrorists hiding behind civilians, schools, and hospitals provided you do no harm to civilians, schools, and hospitals. We expect you to attack using your magic ray guns, the ones that kill terrorists but damage nothing else. pic.twitter.com/223JfKby97

— Mike (@Doranimated) November 30, 2023

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Hamas are pure evil. I honestly wonder if some of them are not demon possessed.

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Islam is a demonic religion, and Hamas is the fanatical wing of said religion of demons.... so yeah, they (Hamas) are probably all demon possessed at this point.

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Hamas are pure evil. I honestly wonder if some of them are not demon possessed.

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Islam is a demonic religion, and Hamas is the fanatical wing of said religion of demons.... so yeah, they (Hamas) are probably all demon possessed at this point.

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You are joking right? This is some sort of satire on what Muslim extremists say about Americans?

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I look forward to the @nytimes investigation on the new QAnon, represented perfectly here. https://t.co/WYdwA6GaTh

— Bari Weiss (@bariweiss) November 29, 2023

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Anyone surprised many of these Karens are wearing masks?

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no kidding.

It's really sad to see people still wearing masks in 2023.. but it is also helpful. Whenever I see someone with a mask these days, i just know that they are extremely low IQ. It helps me avoid idiots in my daily life.

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Wearing masks definitely screams I AM A MORON either one is a science denier or a virtual signaling fascist.

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The stupidity of this post astounds me.

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Cobretti said:

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I look forward to the @nytimes investigation on the new QAnon, represented perfectly here. https://t.co/WYdwA6GaTh

— Bari Weiss (@bariweiss) November 29, 2023

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Anyone surprised many of these Karens are wearing masks?

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no kidding.

It's really sad to see people still wearing masks in 2023.. but it is also helpful. Whenever I see someone with a mask these days, i just know that they are extremely low IQ. It helps me avoid idiots in my daily life.

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Wearing masks definitely screams I AM A MORON either one is a science denier or a virtual signaling fascist.

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The stupidity of this post astounds me.

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The stupidity of still wearing masks long after they were found to be mostly ineffective astounds me

Higher Incidence Of COVID-19 Found Among Consistent Mask-Wearers: Peer-Reviewed Study https://t.co/yM9w6ORQ2a

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) November 29, 2023

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Cobretti said:

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I look forward to the @nytimes investigation on the new QAnon, represented perfectly here. https://t.co/WYdwA6GaTh

— Bari Weiss (@bariweiss) November 29, 2023

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Anyone surprised many of these Karens are wearing masks?

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no kidding.

It's really sad to see people still wearing masks in 2023.. but it is also helpful. Whenever I see someone with a mask these days, i just know that they are extremely low IQ. It helps me avoid idiots in my daily life.

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Wearing masks definitely screams I AM A MORON either one is a science denier or a virtual signaling fascist.

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The stupidity of this post astounds me.

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Okay. I'll play. What is stupid? Can you explicate a position? I'll hang up and listen..

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historian said:

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Hamas are pure evil. I honestly wonder if some of them are not demon possessed.

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Islam is a demonic religion, and Hamas is the fanatical wing of said religion of demons.... so yeah, they (Hamas) are probably all demon possessed at this point.

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You are joking right? This is some sort of satire on what Muslim extremists say about Americans?

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You obviously know nothing about Islam.
Even Mohammad initially believed that it was a demon who was giving him visions and speaking to him.
It was his wife who convinced him that it was the angel Gabriel. This is according to the words & writings of Mohammad himself.

If you've ever read the Koran or the Hadith, you will quickly understand that it is completely evil & demonic. The "prophet" personally beheaded hundreds (maybe thousands) of people... and he is supposed to be the example for all to aspire to in life. He married a child and waited until she was 12 to consummate his marriage with her. He gave instructions on how to properly beat your wives. He personally raped the widows & orphans of his slaughtered enemies.

Islam is demonic and evil. To deny it, is to be ignorant or a fool or both.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Cobretti said:

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I look forward to the @nytimes investigation on the new QAnon, represented perfectly here. https://t.co/WYdwA6GaTh

— Bari Weiss (@bariweiss) November 29, 2023

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Anyone surprised many of these Karens are wearing masks?

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no kidding.

It's really sad to see people still wearing masks in 2023.. but it is also helpful. Whenever I see someone with a mask these days, i just know that they are extremely low IQ. It helps me avoid idiots in my daily life.

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Wearing masks definitely screams I AM A MORON either one is a science denier or a virtual signaling fascist.

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The stupidity of this post astounds me.

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Okay. I'll play. What is stupid? Can you explicate a position? I'll hang up and listen..

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Chick is going to need to look up the meaning of explicate.

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The war has resumed. Time for Israel to finish the job and eliminate Hamas.

Biden and Blinken need to stay the *uc* out of their way.

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Not a chance.


Biden can not repair the cluster he imposed on f Edna wag our economy so he is hoping to find some kind of salvation via foreign affairs.

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Unfortunately, Biden's "wag the dog" scenario is more likely to make everything worse. Remember, it's Joe Biden. Gif decades his reputation in Washington has been that he was wrong about everything, especially foreign policy. It matter that he's just the puppet right his strings being pulled by Obama or someone else. Biden's just providing cover for someone with a more nefarious & dangerous agenda. In a way, it could be worse because whomever is in control can act with impunity & they clearly think they are smart enough to manage it for the desired results (what they want, not to benefit America or anyone else). That kind of arrogance eventually backfires. It's inevitable.

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Wise observations from Peter about the intractability of the problem.

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Likely the end of Palestine as we know it

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Israel was never going to let them actual have a State anyway.

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Israel physically moved their people out of the Gaza strip in 2005. It is 100% free from Jews...and then Hamas started building tunnels, hiding weapons in hospitals and schools and launching rockets into Israel

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1. Yes you are reiterating what we have said on here 100 times about Gaza.

2. That map is about the West Bank and settlers there. It's pretty clear Israel views the West Bank as a strategic necessity and are not going to let the Palestinians have a State there free of settlements

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"It's a terrorist organization!"

…THEY started with an attack of total barbarism. There should be no ceasefire until Israel wins the war, freed ALL hostages, & destroys Hamas.

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What does winning look like?

Gaza is smaller than Austin…looks like the Israeli military has already destroyed large parts of the place and killed 14,000 Palestinians.

[Between 40% and 51% of all buildings in northern Gaza have been structurally damaged or destroyed since Israel declared war on Hamas, the researchers said. Scher told ABC News that their team uses radar to determine any changes in the structures of buildings in Gaza.]

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Likely the end of Palestine as we know it

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Israel was never going to let them actual have a State anyway.

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Israel physically moved their people out of the Gaza strip in 2005. It is 100% free from Jews...and then Hamas started building tunnels, hiding weapons in hospitals and schools and launching rockets into Israel

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1. Yes you are reiterating what we have said on here 100 times about Gaza.

2. That map is about the West Bank and settlers there. It's pretty clear Israel views the West Bank as a strategic necessity and are not going to let the Palestinians have a State there free of settlements

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And Israel is correct: it is strategically important. without Judea & Samaria is only 9 miles wide at one point. That is untenable. On top of that, they have 3,000-4,000 years of historical claim to that land. The Palestinians don't.

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historian said:

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"It's a terrorist organization!"

…THEY started with an attack of total barbarism. There should be no ceasefire until Israel wins the war, freed ALL hostages, & destroys Hamas.

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What does winning look like?

Gaza is smaller than Austin…looks like the Israeli military has already destroyed large parts of the place and killed 14,000 Palestinians.

[Between 40% and 51% of all buildings in northern Gaza have been structurally damaged or destroyed since Israel declared war on Hamas, the researchers said. Scher told ABC News that their team uses radar to determine any changes in the structures of buildings in Gaza.]

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Just read the rest of my statement: winning starts with eh freeing all hostages & destroying Hamas. Those animals should be so thoroughly destroyed that they never again can threaten Israel. How to get there is more complicated and can be decided later. First things first.

One more point: Israel declared war on Hamas because THEY violated an ongoing ceasefire with an attack of utter barbarism on October 7. All efforts to exonerate them for their crimes are pathetic & evil. They deserve no sympathy. Israel's situation now is analogous to that of the US & our Allies fighting Nazi Germany & imperial Japan during WWII. Victory must be won by Israel because those butchers cannot be allowed to repeat their crimes. And Hamas has already made it clear that they view October 7 as just the beginning.

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Destroying Hamas is easy to say…hard to do

We failed in Afghanistan with the Taliban (they are now back in control) even though we drove them from power and fought them for 20 years

Bad comparison: the US vs Taliban is not the same as Israel vs Hamas. Some superficial similarities only. For one thing, they never represented an existential threat to the US the way Hamas does to Israel.

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Bad comparison: the US vs Taliban is not the same as Israel vs Hamas.

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Uh yea, no one said exactly the same

The point is that long term occupations against Islamic insurgent movements are hard to fight.

Besides killing all the people of Gaza or ethnically cleansing the area.

What does victory look like and how is it to be achieved?

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historian said:

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Bad comparison: the US vs Taliban is not the same as Israel vs Hamas.

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The point is that long term occupations against Islamic insurgent movements are hard to fight.

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The West simply needs to fight to win instead of fight to win public opinion.

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historian said:

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Bad comparison: the US vs Taliban is not the same as Israel vs Hamas.

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Uh yea, no one said exactly the same

The point is that long term occupations against Islamic insurgent movements are hard to fight.

Besides killing all the people of Gaza or ethnically cleansing the area.

What does victory look like and how is it to be achieved?

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As I made clear, it's not a question of being exactly alike it's about being remotely similar. It's basically apples & oranges or maybe marsupials & fish.

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Bad comparison: the US vs Taliban is not the same as Israel vs Hamas.

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Uh yea, no one said exactly the same

The point is that long term occupations against Islamic insurgent movements are hard to fight.

Besides killing all the people of Gaza or ethnically cleansing the area.

What does victory look like and how is it to be achieved?

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As I made clear, it's not a question of being exactly alike it's about being remotely similar. It's basically apples & oranges or maybe marsupials & fish.

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You think Hamas and the Taliban have no similarities?

Nothing that we can compare about the two movements and their fight with larger more powerful Westernized nations?

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Hamas are pure evil. I honestly wonder if some of them are not demon possessed.

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Islam is a demonic religion, and Hamas is the fanatical wing of said religion of demons.... so yeah, they (Hamas) are probably all demon possessed at this point.

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You are joking right? This is some sort of satire on what Muslim extremists say about Americans?

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Islam being demonic and the secular humanist LGBTPQ fascist puppet masters of the west being demonic isn't necessarily mutually exclusive.

They are both Islamofascist terrorist organizations with support from Iran, the world's number one state sponsor of terrorism. There are probably a few other superficial similarities but little if great significance. The Taliban controls Afghanistan, a large country with lots of history while Hamas controls tiny Gaza with less than a century of history. And so on.

You have this terrible habit of selectively reading my posts. Why bother responding if you're going to ignore half the post? You look foolish doing that.

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Hamas are pure evil. I honestly wonder if some of them are not demon possessed.

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Islam is a demonic religion, and Hamas is the fanatical wing of said religion of demons.... so yeah, they (Hamas) are probably all demon possessed at this point.

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You are joking right? This is some sort of satire on what Muslim extremists say about Americans?

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Islam being demonic and the secular humanist LGBTPQ fascist puppet masters of the west being demonic isn't necessarily mutually exclusive.

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Hamas kills LGB+++ people. American Leftists, including the alphabet mafia, tend to be pretty tolerant of fellow Leftists (but no one else). I guess that's why they like Islamofascist. But Hamas is far more selective in their bigotry. The only real commonality is extreme radicalism & extreme antisemitism. Both probably do have their demonic elements that helps to explain those two things.

Report: Arab Nations Behind the Scenes Talk With Israel Reveals What They Truly Think About Hamas https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/12/02/report-arab-nations-behind-the-scenes-talk-with-israel-reveals-what-they-truly-think-about-hamas-n2167095

'Not Just Another Oct. 7': Top Hamas Official Promises 'War of Liberation Is Coming' Soon https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2023/12/02/not-just-another-oct-7-top-hamas-official-promises-war-of-liberation-against-israel-is-coming-soon-n2167091

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Bad comparison: the US vs Taliban is not the same as Israel vs Hamas.

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Uh yea, no one said exactly the same

The point is that long term occupations against Islamic insurgent movements are hard to fight.

Besides killing all the people of Gaza or ethnically cleansing the area.

What does victory look like and how is it to be achieved?

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As I made clear, it's not a question of being exactly alike it's about being remotely similar. It's basically apples & oranges or maybe marsupials & fish.

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You think Hamas and the Taliban have no similarities?

Nothing that we can compare about the two movements and their fight with larger more powerful Westernized nations?

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One big difference is that the US only knew of a small handful of Taliban members. The US had positive ID on a few dozen out of hundreds of thousands of Taliban soldiers & members.

Hamas does not have nearly as many members, and the Israelis and their allies have a lot more of them identified. So even though it would be nearly impossible to destroy them all, it would be possible to destroy a much larger percentage than anything we did in Afghanistan.

Also, the US was under the false belief that the Taliban could be convinced to surrender and become normal people. The Israelis know that there is no redemption for the members of Hamas. They will not try to "win the hearts & minds" of Hamas. The US wasted too much effort & time trying to decide if a Taliban member was one of the bad ones or not... never realizing that there is no such thing as a good Taliban member.

Once someone joins a group like Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban, Al Queda... they are beyond hope. They must be exterminated immediately. The US will never see that, but the Israelis now see it. They have tried to reason with Hamas leaders in the past, but after Oct 7th, there is no stomach for that anymore. The Israelis want to destroy Hamas, not attempt to convert them into good, decent people. That is a huge difference.

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They owned it for about a thousand years. They were expelled from it for about a thousand years. That's history.

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They owned it for about a thousand years. They were expelled from it for about a thousand years. That's history.

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And then brought back. Their possession of the land is history, present, and future.