Sounds like great people. America has been blessed throughout our history with people like this.

KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

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Before we can even consider this guy's opinion and how well informed it is, we need to know how much money he makes, what is his post-service occupation, and has he sired any younglings?

I have a childhood friend flying F35s and will get his input. What branch is this colonel from?

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I listen intently to the Colonels viewpoints as he has been very successful in his post retirement real estate ventures, volunteers helping others throughout the country via his Church, has cared devotedly to his wife of 45 years who suffered a horrible stroke 3 years ago. ( saw her walk unaided for the first time last night ) and somehow managed to keep all of his children alive despite 2 of them making disastrous life choices.

As a result I hold the Colonel in extremely high regard and consider his opinions worth respecting.

You in the other hand persist in demonstrating a ridiculously immature, uninformed and hopelessly entitled persona.
Suspect your parents did their best to protect you, but the resulting adult is highly unlikely to accomplish jack.

Which is why I have zero respect for you or your viewpoints .

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Oh that is fine, if you were to respect someone else's opinion I'd be shocked. I wanted to know first why you think the guy is worth listening to on bombings in the middle east being appropriate or not.

And now I know it's not because of any sort of experience flying planes or bombing, or directing operations in the middle east, or deciding policy, or first/secondhand knowledge that the rest of us might not have, contacts in the middle east etc but just that you think he is a good father and he has similar views to yours.

See i can respect that he has an opinion, and value it at exactly 0, because what is appropriate retaliation has nothing to do with how you are as a father, how well you watch real estate, what church you go to. The guy has no special knowledge but is watching Fox like you are? Is that maybe close to accurate?

Tribes gonna tribe buddy! Go for it! What an amazing time we live in. You can basically watch B-1 bombers bomb the Middle East and hear about it because of videos, the internet and TV, then have a loud and certain opinion from the safety of your couch.

Current year, phew!

historian said:

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Sounds like great people. America has been blessed throughout our history with people like this.

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Been friends for almost 40 years.

Our kids went to the same Christian preschool.

Met his wife first when the entire school came to our farm for a field day.

Provided hay rides around the place. Then they all were given large baby bottles to fed the younger calves.

His wife retold the event last night. Her speech was slow but improving. They both are an inspiration to me.

Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

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Before we can even consider this guy's opinion and how well informed it is, we need to know how much money he makes, what is his post-service occupation, and has he sired any younglings?

I have a childhood friend flying F35s and will get his input. What branch is this colonel from?

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I listen intently to the Colonels viewpoints as he has been very successful in his post retirement real estate ventures, volunteers helping others throughout the country via his Church, has cared devotedly to his wife of 45 years who suffered a horrible stroke 3 years ago. ( saw her walk unaided for the first time last night ) and somehow managed to keep all of his children alive despite 2 of them making disastrous life choices.

As a result I hold the Colonel in extremely high regard and consider his opinions worth respecting.

You in the other hand persist in demonstrating a ridiculously immature, uninformed and hopelessly entitled persona.
Suspect your parents did their best to protect you, but the resulting adult is highly unlikely to accomplish jack.

Which is why I have zero respect for you or your viewpoints .

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Oh that is fine, if you were to respect someone else's opinion I'd be shocked. I wanted to know first why you think the guy is worth listening to on bombings in the middle east being appropriate or not.

And now I know it's not because of any sort of experience flying planes or bombing, or directing operations in the middle east, or deciding policy, or first/secondhand knowledge that the rest of us might not have, contacts in the middle east etc but just that you think he is a good father and he has similar views to yours.

See i can respect that he has an opinion, and value it at exactly 0, because what is appropriate retaliation has nothing to do with how you are as a father, how well you watch real estate, what church you go to. The guy has no special knowledge but is watching Fox like you are? Is that maybe close to accurate?

Tribes gonna tribe buddy! Go for it! What an amazing time we live in. You can basically watch B-1 bombers bomb the Middle East and hear about it because of videos, the internet and TV, then have a loud and certain opinion from the safety of your couch.

Current year, phew!

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Child

You ASKED what the man had accomplished since his retirement.

So I phrased my response around your request.

The colonel's military career is extensive…..world wide.

Unlike you , he is a self made winner in all aspects .

KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

---

Before we can even consider this guy's opinion and how well informed it is, we need to know how much money he makes, what is his post-service occupation, and has he sired any younglings?

I have a childhood friend flying F35s and will get his input. What branch is this colonel from?

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I listen intently to the Colonels viewpoints as he has been very successful in his post retirement real estate ventures, volunteers helping others throughout the country via his Church, has cared devotedly to his wife of 45 years who suffered a horrible stroke 3 years ago. ( saw her walk unaided for the first time last night ) and somehow managed to keep all of his children alive despite 2 of them making disastrous life choices.

As a result I hold the Colonel in extremely high regard and consider his opinions worth respecting.

You in the other hand persist in demonstrating a ridiculously immature, uninformed and hopelessly entitled persona.
Suspect your parents did their best to protect you, but the resulting adult is highly unlikely to accomplish jack.

Which is why I have zero respect for you or your viewpoints .

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Oh that is fine, if you were to respect someone else's opinion I'd be shocked. I wanted to know first why you think the guy is worth listening to on bombings in the middle east being appropriate or not.

And now I know it's not because of any sort of experience flying planes or bombing, or directing operations in the middle east, or deciding policy, or first/secondhand knowledge that the rest of us might not have, contacts in the middle east etc but just that you think he is a good father and he has similar views to yours.

See i can respect that he has an opinion, and value it at exactly 0, because what is appropriate retaliation has nothing to do with how you are as a father, how well you watch real estate, what church you go to. The guy has no special knowledge but is watching Fox like you are? Is that maybe close to accurate?

Tribes gonna tribe buddy! Go for it! What an amazing time we live in. You can basically watch B-1 bombers bomb the Middle East and hear about it because of videos, the internet and TV, then have a loud and certain opinion from the safety of your couch.

Current year, phew!

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Child

You ASKED what the man had accomplished since his retirement.

So I phrased my response around your request.

The colonel's military career is extensive…..world wide.

Unlike you, he is a self made winner in all aspects .

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Buddy unfortunately for your trash posting, you don't even know me. Like at all! Imagine the willful ignorance to think these types of posts amount to anything other than trash heaped upon the internet.

I am ok with your ignorant insults because they are all you have, and I'm into the freedom to post clear and certain ignorance. But let us not pretend your childhood friend's opinion has relevance here.

We all have friends we could ask for an opinion, but the internet is not big enough to contain all our friends' opinions every time we want to make a point.

Maybe try supporting your own opinion, or if you have to bring up someone else's (1 of 350,000,000 or whatever) at least make sure theirs has some sort of merit.

Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

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Before we can even consider this guy's opinion and how well informed it is, we need to know how much money he makes, what is his post-service occupation, and has he sired any younglings?

I have a childhood friend flying F35s and will get his input. What branch is this colonel from?

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I listen intently to the Colonels viewpoints as he has been very successful in his post retirement real estate ventures, volunteers helping others throughout the country via his Church, has cared devotedly to his wife of 45 years who suffered a horrible stroke 3 years ago. ( saw her walk unaided for the first time last night ) and somehow managed to keep all of his children alive despite 2 of them making disastrous life choices.

As a result I hold the Colonel in extremely high regard and consider his opinions worth respecting.

You in the other hand persist in demonstrating a ridiculously immature, uninformed and hopelessly entitled persona.
Suspect your parents did their best to protect you, but the resulting adult is highly unlikely to accomplish jack.

Which is why I have zero respect for you or your viewpoints .

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Oh that is fine, if you were to respect someone else's opinion I'd be shocked. I wanted to know first why you think the guy is worth listening to on bombings in the middle east being appropriate or not.

And now I know it's not because of any sort of experience flying planes or bombing, or directing operations in the middle east, or deciding policy, or first/secondhand knowledge that the rest of us might not have, contacts in the middle east etc but just that you think he is a good father and he has similar views to yours.

See i can respect that he has an opinion, and value it at exactly 0, because what is appropriate retaliation has nothing to do with how you are as a father, how well you watch real estate, what church you go to. The guy has no special knowledge but is watching Fox like you are? Is that maybe close to accurate?

Tribes gonna tribe buddy! Go for it! What an amazing time we live in. You can basically watch B-1 bombers bomb the Middle East and hear about it because of videos, the internet and TV, then have a loud and certain opinion from the safety of your couch.

Current year, phew!

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Child

You ASKED what the man had accomplished since his retirement.

So I phrased my response around your request.

The colonel's military career is extensive…..world wide.

Unlike you, he is a self made winner in all aspects .

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Buddy unfortunately for your trash posting, you don't even know me. Like at all! Imagine the willful ignorance to think these types of posts amount to anything other than trash heaped upon the internet.

I am ok with your ignorant insults because they are all you have, and I'm into the freedom to post clear and certain ignorance. But let us not pretend your childhood friend's opinion has relevance here.

We all have friends we could ask for an opinion, but the internet is not big enough to contain all our friends' opinions every time we want to make a point.

Maybe try supporting your own opinion, or if you have to bring up someone else's (1 of 350,000,000 or whatever) at least make sure theirs has some sort of merit.

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Child

I answered your requests and you still whine.

No surprise.

As you are obviously a few bricks short of a full load.

The colonel not only served in the Middle East, ( and Europe, Alaska, the Far East , drug interdiction along the southern border ) but has maintained dozens of connections through the Army.

I value his viewpoint far more than some entitled child on the internet .

KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

---

Before we can even consider this guy's opinion and how well informed it is, we need to know how much money he makes, what is his post-service occupation, and has he sired any younglings?

I have a childhood friend flying F35s and will get his input. What branch is this colonel from?

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I listen intently to the Colonels viewpoints as he has been very successful in his post retirement real estate ventures, volunteers helping others throughout the country via his Church, has cared devotedly to his wife of 45 years who suffered a horrible stroke 3 years ago. ( saw her walk unaided for the first time last night ) and somehow managed to keep all of his children alive despite 2 of them making disastrous life choices.

As a result I hold the Colonel in extremely high regard and consider his opinions worth respecting.

You in the other hand persist in demonstrating a ridiculously immature, uninformed and hopelessly entitled persona.
Suspect your parents did their best to protect you, but the resulting adult is highly unlikely to accomplish jack.

Which is why I have zero respect for you or your viewpoints .

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Oh that is fine, if you were to respect someone else's opinion I'd be shocked. I wanted to know first why you think the guy is worth listening to on bombings in the middle east being appropriate or not.

And now I know it's not because of any sort of experience flying planes or bombing, or directing operations in the middle east, or deciding policy, or first/secondhand knowledge that the rest of us might not have, contacts in the middle east etc but just that you think he is a good father and he has similar views to yours.

See i can respect that he has an opinion, and value it at exactly 0, because what is appropriate retaliation has nothing to do with how you are as a father, how well you watch real estate, what church you go to. The guy has no special knowledge but is watching Fox like you are? Is that maybe close to accurate?

Tribes gonna tribe buddy! Go for it! What an amazing time we live in. You can basically watch B-1 bombers bomb the Middle East and hear about it because of videos, the internet and TV, then have a loud and certain opinion from the safety of your couch.

Current year, phew!

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Child

You ASKED what the man had accomplished since his retirement.

So I phrased my response around your request.

The colonel's military career is extensive…..world wide.

Unlike you, he is a self made winner in all aspects .

---

Buddy unfortunately for your trash posting, you don't even know me. Like at all! Imagine the willful ignorance to think these types of posts amount to anything other than trash heaped upon the internet.

I am ok with your ignorant insults because they are all you have, and I'm into the freedom to post clear and certain ignorance. But let us not pretend your childhood friend's opinion has relevance here.

We all have friends we could ask for an opinion, but the internet is not big enough to contain all our friends' opinions every time we want to make a point.

Maybe try supporting your own opinion, or if you have to bring up someone else's (1 of 350,000,000 or whatever) at least make sure theirs has some sort of merit.

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Child

I answered your requests and you still whine.

No surprise.

As you are obviously a few bricks of a full load.

The colonel not only served in the Middle East, ( and Europe, Alaska, the Far East , drug interdiction along the southern border ) but has maintained dozens of connections through the Army.

I value his viewpoint far more than some entitled child on the internet .

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Again, that is fine, but useless. It means nothing. It's not logic reason or first hand experience. You are coming up with the dumbest arguments.

"Yea mah guy, see this great church going father over there? Yea him, mah guy, I really listen to him, the best connection, really the best. Yeah we both say the same thing on Middle East bombings!" mic drop

Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

---

Before we can even consider this guy's opinion and how well informed it is, we need to know how much money he makes, what is his post-service occupation, and has he sired any younglings?

I have a childhood friend flying F35s and will get his input. What branch is this colonel from?

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I listen intently to the Colonels viewpoints as he has been very successful in his post retirement real estate ventures, volunteers helping others throughout the country via his Church, has cared devotedly to his wife of 45 years who suffered a horrible stroke 3 years ago. ( saw her walk unaided for the first time last night ) and somehow managed to keep all of his children alive despite 2 of them making disastrous life choices.

As a result I hold the Colonel in extremely high regard and consider his opinions worth respecting.

You in the other hand persist in demonstrating a ridiculously immature, uninformed and hopelessly entitled persona.
Suspect your parents did their best to protect you, but the resulting adult is highly unlikely to accomplish jack.

Which is why I have zero respect for you or your viewpoints .

---

Oh that is fine, if you were to respect someone else's opinion I'd be shocked. I wanted to know first why you think the guy is worth listening to on bombings in the middle east being appropriate or not.

And now I know it's not because of any sort of experience flying planes or bombing, or directing operations in the middle east, or deciding policy, or first/secondhand knowledge that the rest of us might not have, contacts in the middle east etc but just that you think he is a good father and he has similar views to yours.

See i can respect that he has an opinion, and value it at exactly 0, because what is appropriate retaliation has nothing to do with how you are as a father, how well you watch real estate, what church you go to. The guy has no special knowledge but is watching Fox like you are? Is that maybe close to accurate?

Tribes gonna tribe buddy! Go for it! What an amazing time we live in. You can basically watch B-1 bombers bomb the Middle East and hear about it because of videos, the internet and TV, then have a loud and certain opinion from the safety of your couch.

Current year, phew!

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Child

You ASKED what the man had accomplished since his retirement.

So I phrased my response around your request.

The colonel's military career is extensive…..world wide.

Unlike you, he is a self made winner in all aspects .

---

Buddy unfortunately for your trash posting, you don't even know me. Like at all! Imagine the willful ignorance to think these types of posts amount to anything other than trash heaped upon the internet.

I am ok with your ignorant insults because they are all you have, and I'm into the freedom to post clear and certain ignorance. But let us not pretend your childhood friend's opinion has relevance here.

We all have friends we could ask for an opinion, but the internet is not big enough to contain all our friends' opinions every time we want to make a point.

Maybe try supporting your own opinion, or if you have to bring up someone else's (1 of 350,000,000 or whatever) at least make sure theirs has some sort of merit.

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Child

I answered your requests and you still whine.

No surprise.

As you are obviously a few bricks of a full load.

The colonel not only served in the Middle East, ( and Europe, Alaska, the Far East , drug interdiction along the southern border ) but has maintained dozens of connections through the Army.

I value his viewpoint far more than some entitled child on the internet .

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Again, that is fine, but useless. It means nothing. It's not logic reason or first hand experience. You are coming up with the dumbest arguments.

"Yea mah guy, see this great church going father over there? Yea him, mah guy, I really listen to him, the best connection, really the best. Yeah we both say the same thing on Middle East bombings!" mic drop

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LOL

Yeah, the opinions of some internet mediocrity on the tactical situation in the Middle East demand to be taken as seriously as those of a full Colonel with decades of experience throughout the world.

Who could possibly doubt it ?

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I'm still waiting for one of the pro-Israel/Israel is our greatest ally guys to respond to my previous post:

Israel destroys the USS Liberty and kills 34 American servicemen in 1967 and instead of our leaders vowing to avenge the deaths of our people, they were rewarded with over $1 trillion, when adjusted for inflation, in economic and military aid. Why?

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The British Army once ransacked Washington DC and the White House. Are you still angry at them, too?

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Seriously? At least the other pro-Israel guys have enough intelligence and decency to ignore the question and not throw out a trash reply like this!

One was the war of 1812.... the hint is in its name... it was a WAR. Nobody assumed Great Britian was friendly not to mention an ally.

Americans have also been killed by the Mexicans, Spanish, Germans, Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Iraqi, Afghanis and countless others I'm sure I am forgetting. They were wars and almost universally we killed more of them than they killed of us.

The USS Liberty was a friendly, non-threatening ship in international waters. Name one of instance where US servicemen were directly attacked and slaughtered by a foreign nation and the US not only did not retaliate, they actually paid tribute to the attacking nation!

As Red alrdy mentioned we never gave Britian hundreds of BILLIONS in blank checks from American tax payer money in sustained economic and military aid?

I'm not saying we should go to war with Israel, but we damn sure shouldn't be helping them. They attacked and MURDERED 34 American servicemen and wounded over a hundred more. They knew they were Americans. Through a coordinated air and sea attack they were trying to kill every man on that ship. It's a miracle from God that any of them survived!

I'm not going to conjecture as to why Israel killed our people but those videos give a pretty good theory and it is chilling.... horrifying even.

Those 34 American Servicemen could have had families and grandchildren today. That is hundreds of Americans who were erased from our timeline by our "greatest ally"

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Just because it's small relative to all the other more useful spending doesn't excuse the fact that it is completely 100% extraneous, inane waste of money that provides negligible benefit to the average tax payer.

So far your argument for continuing aid to Israel can be summed up with: "They're my friend!"

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So, give us your foreign policy? Where do we fit in the world? Is there anyone that the US should help?

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No foreign aid. No foreign wars. Fair Trade.

America first. American citizens first. And American tax payers really, really come first.

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that is the most uninformed take I have heard lately. What rock did you crawl from? Let me guess, you are an angry white dude in his 20s how has not a lot of work experience and spends too much time in front of Fox News.

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Angry 20 year old Gen. Z kids....a cohort well known to be Fox news viewers lol

Do you even research before you write something like that?

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no, it is fairly apparent by his lack of understand how the world works. Probably never have traveled much. Fox on the loop. Maybe he can give us his background.

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Like you don't have CNN on a loop.

And I am honestly sickened this post got any likes... I suggest those posters move to Israel if they care more about Israeli lives than American lives.

The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm still waiting for one of the pro-Israel/Israel is our greatest ally guys to respond to my previous post:

Israel destroys the USS Liberty and kills 34 American servicemen in 1967 and instead of our leaders vowing to avenge the deaths of our people, they were rewarded with over $1 trillion, when adjusted for inflation, in economic and military aid. Why?

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The British Army once ransacked Washington DC and the White House. Are you still angry at them, too?

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Seriously? At least the other pro-Israel guys have enough intelligence and decency to ignore the question and not throw out a trash reply like this!

One was the war of 1812.... the hint is in its name... it was a WAR. Nobody assumed Great Britian was friendly not to mention an ally.

Americans have also been killed by the Mexicans, Spanish, Germans, Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Iraqi, Afghanis and countless others I'm sure I am forgetting. They were wars and almost universally we killed more of them than they killed of us.

The USS Liberty was a friendly, non-threatening ship in international waters. Name one of instance where US servicemen were directly attacked and slaughtered by a foreign nation and the US not only did not retaliate, they actually paid tribute to the attacking nation.

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Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan provided the Taliban a clear victory, humiliated the US, left them with billions of dollars in military hardware (some of which was used by other terrorists), and abandoned Americans & our allies.

The_barBEARian said:

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And I am honestly sickened this post got any likes... I suggest those posters move to Israel if they care more about Israeli lives than American lives.

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Do you hate all northerners? All Germans? All Native Americans? All Vietnamese? Italians? Japanese?

The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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America responds to terrorism at the place and time of our choosing. We chose to strike 85 places simultaneously in two countries to tell the Iranian regime that the #IRGC is just the start … & we didn’t break a sweat doing it.

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) February 3, 2024

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Is that fat **** back from Ukraine?

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To his credit, at least he went over there if only to stage some photos to look like he was doing something.

None of the Slava Ukraini's on this board like Trey or ATLbear did ***** They want other people to pay for and die for their wars.

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Oh, this argument? Some of us did things for this country and others you'll never see or hear about on social media. Get a job or go down and stop some brown men from entering this country (your big gripe), or patrol your neighborhood, or do anything productive instead of hiding behind the freedom and privilege others afford you as you do nothing but cowardly whine about.

historian said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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whiterock said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm still waiting for one of the pro-Israel/Israel is our greatest ally guys to respond to my previous post:

Israel destroys the USS Liberty and kills 34 American servicemen in 1967 and instead of our leaders vowing to avenge the deaths of our people, they were rewarded with over $1 trillion, when adjusted for inflation, in economic and military aid. Why?

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The British Army once ransacked Washington DC and the White House. Are you still angry at them, too?

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Seriously? At least the other pro-Israel guys have enough intelligence and decency to ignore the question and not throw out a trash reply like this!

One was the war of 1812.... the hint is in its name... it was a WAR. Nobody assumed Great Britian was friendly not to mention an ally.

Americans have also been killed by the Mexicans, Spanish, Germans, Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Iraqi, Afghanis and countless others I'm sure I am forgetting. They were wars and almost universally we killed more of them than they killed of us.

The USS Liberty was a friendly, non-threatening ship in international waters. Name one of instance where US servicemen were directly attacked and slaughtered by a foreign nation and the US not only did not retaliate, they actually paid tribute to the attacking nation.

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Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan provided the Taliban a clear victory, humiliated the US, left them with billions of dollars in military hardware (some of which was used by other terrorists), and abandoned Americans & our allies.

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All true and it impact of Biden's debacle will continue to resonate throughout the middle east for years.

Amazing the blind obedience 90% of our national media has for this administration.

Kind of like Camelot.

Only this time employing the old, gay, trans and totally incompetent.

JUST IN: Speaker Mike Johnson has changed his decision and said that the US House will now vote on an standalone $17.6 billion Israel aid package without any Ukraine aid

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) February 3, 2024

KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

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Sometimes you telegraph to see where movements occur for new targets. I'm hopeful our military tacticians weren't dumb enough to do the approach you mention.

sombear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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And I am honestly sickened this post got any likes... I suggest those posters move to Israel if they care more about Israeli lives than American lives.

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Do you hate all northerners? All Germans? All Native Americans? All Vietnamese? Italians? Japanese?

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Another insane and stupid reply.

ATL Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

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Sometimes you telegraph to see where movements occur for new targets. I'm hopeful our military tacticians weren't dumb enough to do the approach you mention.

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Only God knows of course.

However the proof will be in the relative absence of enemy corpses .

KaiBear said:

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

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Very likely, and it's a good thing. Saner heads seem to be prevailing for the moment.

Spot on. 100%

At least Kennedy had some charm & a war record (perhaps exaggerated). Biden makes cantankerous Walter (Dunham's dummy) look likable. Walter certainly is more intelligent!

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America responds to terrorism at the place and time of our choosing. We chose to strike 85 places simultaneously in two countries to tell the Iranian regime that the #IRGC is just the start … & we didn’t break a sweat doing it.

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) February 3, 2024

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Is that fat **** back from Ukraine?

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To his credit, at least he went over there if only to stage some photos to look like he was doing something.

None of the Slava Ukraini's on this board like Trey or ATLbear did ***** They want other people to pay for and die for their wars.

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Oh, this argument? Some of us did things for this country and others you'll never see or hear about on social media. Get a job or go down and stop some brown men from entering this country (your big gripe), or patrol your neighborhood, or do anything productive instead of hiding behind the freedom and privilege others afford you as you do nothing but cowardly whine about.

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I must have touched a nerve?

How am I being a coward by taking the unpopular opinion in a thread where the majority of posters would sacrifice their first born children for Israel?

I'm not the one advocating for foreign wars and more spending that has depleted the generational wealth of the vast majority of Americans.

Whatever you think you've done has probably done more harm than good. You are a dummy with an inflated sense of self-worth.

We haven't had the draft since Vietnam so no one asked you to do anything other than not make life more difficult for the rest of us... but even that seems to be too much to ask.

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Had dinner last night with a long time best friend and retired army colonel.

Asked him what he thought of all the recent US air strikes.

Replied they were a total joke . That we had sent repeated warnings where and when the strikes would be. Said it all was a meaningless political show.

He also felt there was still some kind of political connection running between OBAMA ( through Biden ) with the Iranian leadership.

' Review the money transfers '.

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Sometimes you telegraph to see where movements occur for new targets. I'm hopeful our military tacticians weren't dumb enough to do the approach you mention.

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Only God knows of course.

However the proof will be in the relative absence of enemy corpses .

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Yep, that and equipment destruction.

The Speaker just announced that next week the House will vote on a clean bill to send Israel $14.3 billion.

Israel has a lower debt to GDP ratio than the United States. This spending package has no offsets, so it will increase our debt by $14.3 billion plus interest.

I’m a No. pic.twitter.com/cHKws5R05Q

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) February 3, 2024

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The Speaker just announced that next week the House will vote on a clean bill to send Israel $14.3 billion.

Israel has a lower debt to GDP ratio than the United States. This spending package has no offsets, so it will increase our debt by $14.3 billion plus interest.

I’m a No. pic.twitter.com/cHKws5R05Q

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) February 3, 2024

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This is infuriating.

Maybe it makes one a realist.

This is how you lose purchasing power by creating inflation. Printing new money into existence and sending it overseas definitely doesn't help any.
Foreign aid is money laundering by proxy.pic.twitter.com/y71pgEC1Qu

— Ꭷʀɨօռ (@Couldcareless12) February 3, 2024

Who said the US needed to occupy Iran? Maybe we need to have stronger plans with the way we fight modern wars since they don't usually go very well. However, if the US takes more military action against Iran, as seems likely, there is zero likelihood that anyone in our leadership is planning to defeat & occupy the country. Even with competent leaders, that would be highly unlikely.

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America responds to terrorism at the place and time of our choosing. We chose to strike 85 places simultaneously in two countries to tell the Iranian regime that the #IRGC is just the start … & we didn’t break a sweat doing it.

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) February 3, 2024

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Is that fat **** back from Ukraine?

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To his credit, at least he went over there if only to stage some photos to look like he was doing something.

None of the Slava Ukraini's on this board like Trey or ATLbear did ***** They want other people to pay for and die for their wars.

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Oh, this argument? Some of us did things for this country and others you'll never see or hear about on social media. Get a job or go down and stop some brown men from entering this country (your big gripe), or patrol your neighborhood, or do anything productive instead of hiding behind the freedom and privilege others afford you as you do nothing but cowardly whine about.

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I must have touched a nerve?

How am I being a coward by taking to unpopular opinion in a thread where the majority of posters would sacrifice their first born children for Israel?

I'm not the one advocating for foreign wars and more spending that has depleted the generational wealth of the vast majority of Americans.

Whatever you think you've done has probably done more harm than good. You are a dummy with an inflated sense of self-worth.

We haven't had the draft since Vietnam so no one asked you to do anything other than not make life more difficult for the rest of us... but even that seems to be too much to ask.

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Well I certainly don't overinflate my worth to believe I could make yours or many others lives more difficult, although my wife might disagree.

I don't care about the popularity of your opinion. Redbrick and others express opinions different than mine, but at least there's a level of cogent rationale even if I disagree. You operate from a place of personal grievance and character anger that is hard to palate much less engage. So I'll try to do better and not take it to a more personal level and stick with the debated issues. But I'll still call a spade a spade if you put it out there.

And to get back to the issues, generational wealth has been minimally if at all impacted by government expenditures on foreign nations or conflicts within the last 50 years.

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That is total bull*****

A can of coke cost 5 cents in 1970.

Inflation, caused be insane spending, is the silent killer of generational wealth.

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I have mixed feelings about people with dual citizenship. I can understand the reasoning behind it for some. However, it disqualifies someone from a position of leadership, including membership in Congress, if their primary loyalty is to a foreign country. Members of the government must swear an oath to uphold the constitution. If they cannot abide by that oath then they should be immediately removed from that position. Unfortunately, our leaders are wimps and cowards who are unlikely to do anything about this. Part of me likes the proposal of DeSantis: expulsion from Congress, denaturalization, deportation. I don't expect that will happen either.

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Even without dual loyalty they have been violating that for years.....

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Unfortunately at it that is true. That justifies nothing.

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And I am honestly sickened this post got any likes... I suggest those posters move to Israel if they care more about Israeli lives than American lives.

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Do you hate all northerners? All Germans? All Native Americans? All Vietnamese? Italians? Japanese?

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Another insane and stupid reply.

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Well, you suggest we should be anti-Israel because of something they did in 1967. Others I listed have done far worse to us.

And, responding to another one of your posts, nobody knows for certain exactly what happened with the Liberty. The official government position, including LBJ, was that it was a bad mistake. I am well aware that is controversial. I've spent a fair amount of time studying it. I am not an expert. But the evidence is all over the place. And, remember, we were neutral in the six day war.

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America responds to terrorism at the place and time of our choosing. We chose to strike 85 places simultaneously in two countries to tell the Iranian regime that the #IRGC is just the start … & we didn’t break a sweat doing it.

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) February 3, 2024

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Is that fat **** back from Ukraine?

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To his credit, at least he went over there if only to stage some photos to look like he was doing something.

None of the Slava Ukraini's on this board like Trey or ATLbear did ***** They want other people to pay for and die for their wars.

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Oh, this argument? Some of us did things for this country and others you'll never see or hear about on social media. Get a job or go down and stop some brown men from entering this country (your big gripe), or patrol your neighborhood, or do anything productive instead of hiding behind the freedom and privilege others afford you as you do nothing but cowardly whine about.

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I must have touched a nerve?

How am I being a coward by taking to unpopular opinion in a thread where the majority of posters would sacrifice their first born children for Israel?

I'm not the one advocating for foreign wars and more spending that has depleted the generational wealth of the vast majority of Americans.

Whatever you think you've done has probably done more harm than good. You are a dummy with an inflated sense of self-worth.

We haven't had the draft since Vietnam so no one asked you to do anything other than not make life more difficult for the rest of us... but even that seems to be too much to ask.

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Well I certainly don't overinflate my worth to believe I could make yours or many others lives more difficult, although my wife might disagree.

I don't care about the popularity of your opinion. Redbrick and others express opinions different than mine, but at least there's a level of cogent rationale even if I disagree. You operate from a place of personal grievance and character anger that is hard to palate much less engage. So I'll try to do better and not take it to a more personal level and stick with the debated issues. But I'll still call a spade a spade if you put it out there.

And to get back to the issues, generational wealth has been minimally if at all impacted by government expenditures on foreign nations or conflicts within the last 50 years.

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That is total bull*****

A can of coke cost 5 cents in 1970.

Inflation, caused be insane spending, is the silent killer of generational wealth.

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Agree, inflation is absolutely at issue. But what you don't seem to contemplate is that discretionary spending as a whole over the years, which foreign aid falls under, has been a small contributor to deficit spending over those 50 years. It is entitlement spending which has compounded our deficits and led to the inflationary impact of our monetary policy. I keep mentioning this but no one wants to talk about it because I think no one wants to admit our "America first" part of our budget is what's drowning us.

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America responds to terrorism at the place and time of our choosing. We chose to strike 85 places simultaneously in two countries to tell the Iranian regime that the #IRGC is just the start … & we didn’t break a sweat doing it.

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) February 3, 2024

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Is that fat **** back from Ukraine?

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To his credit, at least he went over there if only to stage some photos to look like he was doing something.

None of the Slava Ukraini's on this board like Trey or ATLbear did ***** They want other people to pay for and die for their wars.

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Oh, this argument? Some of us did things for this country and others you'll never see or hear about on social media. Get a job or go down and stop some brown men from entering this country (your big gripe), or patrol your neighborhood, or do anything productive instead of hiding behind the freedom and privilege others afford you as you do nothing but cowardly whine about.

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I must have touched a nerve?

How am I being a coward by taking to unpopular opinion in a thread where the majority of posters would sacrifice their first born children for Israel?

I'm not the one advocating for foreign wars and more spending that has depleted the generational wealth of the vast majority of Americans.

Whatever you think you've done has probably done more harm than good. You are a dummy with an inflated sense of self-worth.

We haven't had the draft since Vietnam so no one asked you to do anything other than not make life more difficult for the rest of us... but even that seems to be too much to ask.

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Well I certainly don't overinflate my worth to believe I could make yours or many others lives more difficult, although my wife might disagree.

I don't care about the popularity of your opinion. Redbrick and others express opinions different than mine, but at least there's a level of cogent rationale even if I disagree. You operate from a place of personal grievance and character anger that is hard to palate much less engage. So I'll try to do better and not take it to a more personal level and stick with the debated issues. But I'll still call a spade a spade if you put it out there.

And to get back to the issues, generational wealth has been minimally if at all impacted by government expenditures on foreign nations or conflicts within the last 50 years.

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That is total bull*****

A can of coke cost 5 cents in 1970.

Inflation, caused be insane spending, is the silent killer of generational wealth.

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Agree, inflation is absolutely at issue. But what you don't seem to contemplate is that discretionary spending as a whole over the years, which foreign aid falls under, has been a small contributor to deficit spending over those 50 years. It is entitlement spending which has compounded our deficits and led to the inflationary impact of our monetary policy. I keep mentioning this but no one wants to talk about it because I think no one wants to admit our "America first" part of our budget is what's drowning us.

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I fully support you in cutting Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security... but those are harder cuts to make bcs Americans will directly suffer for these spending cuts.

Americans will not directly suffer if we refuse to send another $15 billion to Israel next week.

Redbrickbear said:

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The Speaker just announced that next week the House will vote on a clean bill to send Israel $14.3 billion.

Israel has a lower debt to GDP ratio than the United States. This spending package has no offsets, so it will increase our debt by $14.3 billion plus interest.

I’m a No. pic.twitter.com/cHKws5R05Q

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) February 3, 2024

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The no offset part is what's most disturbing. That's how you leak discretionary spending into the deficit. Fair position by Massie.