The_barBEARian said:
FLBear5630 said:
The_barBEARian said:
Guy Noir said:
The_barBEARian said:
historian said:
It depends CB on which faction of the GOP you are talking about. Just like now, there were different groups with different priorities. Granted, the isolationists were very much in the minority after WWII but the had some important leaders in Congress.
I think it's pretty reasonable to tell American Jews and Israel they can kill as many people as they want with their own money and resources, but Legacy Americans who come from the families who built the United States dont want our tax dollars being stolen/misappropriated and used to bribe our own representatives to pass legislation that put a foreign nation over our own interests.
The only countries I would entertain limited foreign aid to is Mexico and some Central Americans countries to enforce law and order in their own countries and limit the invasion of our southern border.
There is zero benefit to middle America from bombing Yeman half the world away.
Not true.
There is a benefit to having a stable Middle East.
Not my responsibility. If you want to pay extra in taxes to take on this responsibility, you should be taxed triple the rate of those who wisely choose to opt-out.
There is a benefit to keeping the shipping lanes open in the Red Sea to the Suez Canal.
No. We should be energy independent in this country and not reliant on the middle east, but certain countries like Israel and Saudi do everything in their power to make America energy dependent on the middle east.
There is benefit to the USA to have a reliable ally in that area of the world.
Ally implies a symbiotic, beneficial relationship. We benefit Israel greatly, they give back nothing. Not once in my life have I ever directly benefitted from all the billions of billions we have sent to out greatest ally... meanwhile the added inflation from those billions has had negative impact on my quality of life.
Do you remember the 9/11 attack? The USA had to respond to that attack, and we had to deal with the Middle Eastern countries, The USA cannot just ignore the terrorist threat coming from that area of the world
9/11 was provoked bcs of US support for Israel. If we stopped engaging in the middle east the terrorist threat would diminish.
So, I guess we just don't trade in that area of the world. While we are at it, cross off the Horn of Africa, South China Sea, Red Sea, Arctic Ocean, and Space in General. That is a quick list of the contested areas. So, who are we going to sell our good to if we don't keep those areas open? We are going to just punt on those other products coming into the US.
It better be our responsibility, because otherwise you are relying on others to keep our economy going. China now has enough killer satellites that if we didn't counter, they would own space.
But none of that is worth you tax dollars. This is not new, this has gone back as far as the Barbary Pirates, when we literally paid tribute.
If companies want to sell their goods there, they can absorb the risks and benefits associated with that, see the East India Company. The tax payer shouldnt be exploited for the economic gain of a few hundred people.
Few hundred? How many Toyota's, Honda's, and other imports you see? Apple has a few hundred shareholders?
Welcome to Capitalism. The Royal Navy fought off the Pirates and kept the Sea Lanes open. The British Army held the territory that the EIC operated. You really think that we can supply all our energy needs without imports? Why would we want to use all our resources? Funny, you seem to want a modern lifestyle in a Nation that allows you to make as much money as you can, but at no cost. There was never a Society like the US that just grew with no external costs.
