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Let's talk about the ethnic American shared culture in a Nation of Immigrant?

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America is not a nation of immigrants.

It was a nation built by settlers who then opened the door for immigrants to come to a nation with defined borders and governance with the expectation that these immigrants would become part of the established American nation.

What is going on currently isn't immigration. It is an invasion.

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No, you are absolutely incorrect. We are all immigrants unless you are Native Indian...

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Interesting enough they were "immigrants" as well.

Indian tribal groups immigrated from other places as well (Siberia mostly)

Coming over in fact in multiple waves.

(Not to mention they endlessly fought and killed each other over land and hunting grounds for millennia)

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And Indians fought with each other for possession of the land for centuries.

Continuing to displace prior occupants of the land through force of arms.

Until they finally lost the land to Europeans….again by force of arms.

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And Homo Sapiens fought with Neanderthals. Can we frame the conversation to the last 500 years?

Your poor wife... Is she ever allowed to be right? Migrated across the land bridge in the Bearing Sea in an immigration discussion? If we were in a bar, you would have to do a shot...

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This was a friendly discussion over an unimportant topic .

Yet you felt compelled to make a totally vicious comment regarding me and my wife ?

You are completely out of line here and not for the first time.

Not sure what is the cause of your insecurities, but please do not include me in your therapy any longer .

Have a nice day.

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My comment was not vicious. It was a joking around with a guy who gives me a hard time too. I thought the shot comment pretty much shows it was joking as you wouldn't be sitting around talking in a bar with people you don't like or are trying to be vicious. Do you hang around guys much? Giving each other **** when you discuss stuff is a pretty time honored tradition.

By the way, if that was vicious you must have went through your military service constantly butt sore and preaching at people...

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In or out of a combat unit it isn't a healthy idea to make snide comments about another guys wife.

That you still haven't figured this out even at your age says it all.

Look to others for your free internet therapy.

Adios.

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Hey, *******. I cracked on him, not his wife and he is a big boy. He does need you scrawny ass to fight his battles. He has a problem, send a message. Please put me on ignore so I don't have to be exposed to your arrogant BS spewing crap.

Have a nice night, dick.

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Bravely typed on an anonymous message board.

Well done.

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

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You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
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It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

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Ben Gvir Leads Over 1,000 Israeli Settlers In Jewish Prayer At Flashpoint Al-Aqsa Mosque

This probably isn't helping the situation.

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The islamic construction of the mosques at the Temple Mount was indeed highly inflammatory.

Israel should convert it for use as a synagogue.

Some day they will rebuild Solomon's Temple on that site.

There need to be harsh consequences for this dumb s. I don't have problem with people's right to a peaceful protest....but this is some BS

Breaking: Pro-Palestine protesters have shut down the freeway in LA. All cars are stopped due to 50 activists blocking vehicles.

Last time they shut down a bridge, someone missed an appointment for a brain tumor removal, and a disabled child was sent to the hospital. pic.twitter.com/1VGeyuk0uj

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) August 13, 2024

Notice they only do this in Leftist cities where the authorities defunded the police and routinely coddle criminals. These childish tantrums will quickly stop if they start throwing the pathetic jerks in jail. And give them real prison terms.

It should be amazing how the response is the same for toddlers throwing tantrums and pathetic adults who act like toddlers as well. But it isn't because it's taught in scripture. It's also common sense.

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/13/us-approves-weapons-sale-israel-20-billion

U.S. approves $20 billion in weapons sales to Israel
Barak Ravid

The Biden administration on Tuesday approved more than $20 billion major arms sales to Israel, including new F-15 fighter jets and tens of thousands of tank and mortar shells.

Why it matters: Most of the weapons sales are long-term deals and will only be delivered several years from now, but Israeli officials said the announcement send a message to Iran and Hezbollah as they threaten to attack Israel.

A U.S. official said the deals were announced when they were ready but admitted their potential impact at a time when the U.S. wants to project to the region its support for Israel's long-term security.
Driving the news: The most significant deal is the sale of 50 F-15IA fighter jets and the upgrade of 25 F-15I fighter jets that are already in service in the Israeli Air Force. The deal is worth $18.8 billion.

The Biden administration also approved the sale of 50,000 120mm mortar shells and 32,000 120mm tank shells.
Another deal involves the sale of 30 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles for fighter jets.
The last deal that was approved is for the sale of military tactical vehicles.
Behind the scenes: Israel waited quite a long time for these deals to be approved, an Israeli official told Axios.

One of the more challenging deals was the F-15 jets, which the Biden administration needed to carefully navigate due to political sensitivities around U.S. support of Israel in Gaza and the fear that members of Congress would put a hold on the sale due to the war, Israeli and U.S. officials said.
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant's visit to Washington several weeks ago helped push the deals forward, Israeli and U.S. officials said.
Since the beginning of the war in Gaza, Gallant has maintained constant contact with senior Biden administration officials, including Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and consistently discussed and addressed issues surrounding ammunition and force build up both short-term for the war and long-term for the Israel Defense Forces future needs, an Israeli official said.

Israeli and U.S. officials said Gallant became a critical partner for the Biden administration during the past two years on a set of issues wider than the war in Gaza that were important to the U.S., including the West Bank and Lebanon.
"This helped him in pushing the U.S. to do things that were important for Israel," an Israeli official said.
What they're saying: Gallant thanked Austin and Blinken for advancing the deals "that assist Israel in developing and maintaining its qualitative military edge in the region."

The White House said in a statement that the weapons sales "will support Israel's long-term security by resupplying stocks of critical munitions and investing in long-term upgrades in capability."
Between the lines: For the White House, the deals also help fend off claims from Republicans ahead of the presidential elections that the Biden-Harris administration doesn't supply weapons to Israel.

On the other hand, it could increase criticism of the administration among progressives who want Vice President Harris to commit to an arms embargo on Israel.

Breaking: Jewish students who sued UCLA won a preliminary injunction against UCLA.

The administration is prohibited from allowing the exclusion of Jewish students in areas of campus and can no longer tolerate terror enthusiasts harassing Jewish students. pic.twitter.com/k1IYFuuPXR

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) August 14, 2024

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Breaking: Jewish students who sued UCLA won a preliminary injunction against UCLA.

The administration is prohibited from allowing the exclusion of Jewish students in areas of campus and can no longer tolerate terror enthusiasts harassing Jewish students. pic.twitter.com/k1IYFuuPXR

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) August 14, 2024

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It's amazing and disgusting that they had to go to court to get a major university to stop acting like Nazis.

Judge Scarsi tearing UCLA a new one:
"In the year 2024, in the United States of America, in the State of California, in the City of Los Angeles, Jewish students were excluded from portions of the UCLA campus because they refused to denounce their faith. This fact is so… https://t.co/hpDtfbKlLr

— David Bernstein (@ProfDBernstein) August 14, 2024

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

UCLA acted like Nazis and offered the lamest excuse.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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It was established that the school was loaded with Hamas fighters. Most of the casualties were in fact Hamas fighters.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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Not sure you're processing the events correctly. Hate on Bibi all you want, but I have high certainty any replacement of his would conduct the situation without much variance.

Iran is reportedly considering sending a Delegation to Thursday’s Negotiations between Israel and Hamas on a Ceasefire and Hostage Deal in the Gaza Strip, with Israeli Officials said to now be Threatening to Withdraw from the Negotiations if Iran is allowed to Participate.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) August 14, 2024

I'm betting UCLA welcomed this case. They get to be completely neutral and avoid the meltdown. "It's not us, the court said you can't do that".

Best possible outcome for them really. They don't have to be seen as "Zionist" or "anti Muslim" any other of the ist labels. Merely get to say "the higher authority disagrees with your position so we have no choice but to do what they say".

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Breaking: Jewish students who sued UCLA won a preliminary injunction against UCLA.

The administration is prohibited from allowing the exclusion of Jewish students in areas of campus and can no longer tolerate terror enthusiasts harassing Jewish students. pic.twitter.com/k1IYFuuPXR

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) August 14, 2024

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It's amazing and disgusting that they had to go to court to get a major university to stop acting like Nazis.

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I think this is just a slippery slope type of thing. The university would now be responsible if anyone on campus says something that a Jewish person perceives is anti semitic? That cant be a good precedent to set. For instance, Ben Shapiro says its anti semitic if you say a Jewish person has more loyalty to Israel than America.

Meanwhile whites can be kept out of certain spaces and openly discriminated against but do not have the ADL or any group to fight on their behalf.

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Breaking: Jewish students who sued UCLA won a preliminary injunction against UCLA.

The administration is prohibited from allowing the exclusion of Jewish students in areas of campus and can no longer tolerate terror enthusiasts harassing Jewish students. pic.twitter.com/k1IYFuuPXR

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) August 14, 2024

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It's amazing and disgusting that they had to go to court to get a major university to stop acting like Nazis.

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I think this is just a slippery slope type of thing. The university would now be responsible if anyone on campus says something that a Jewish person perceives is anti semitic? That cant be a good precedent to set. For instance, Ben Shapiro says its anti semitic if you say a Jewish person has more loyalty to Israel than America.

Meanwhile whites can be kept out of certain spaces and openly discriminated against but do not have the ADL or any group to fight on their behalf.

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Perhaps whites shouldn't be kept out of those spaces. Maybe two wrongs don't make a right.

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Breaking: Jewish students who sued UCLA won a preliminary injunction against UCLA.

The administration is prohibited from allowing the exclusion of Jewish students in areas of campus and can no longer tolerate terror enthusiasts harassing Jewish students. pic.twitter.com/k1IYFuuPXR

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) August 14, 2024

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It's amazing and disgusting that they had to go to court to get a major university to stop acting like Nazis.

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I think this is just a slippery slope type of thing. The university would now be responsible if anyone on campus says something that a Jewish person perceives is anti semitic? That cant be a good precedent to set. For instance, Ben Shapiro says its anti semitic if you say a Jewish person has more loyalty to Israel than America.

Meanwhile whites can be kept out of certain spaces and openly discriminated against but do not have the ADL or any group to fight on their behalf.

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Perhaps whites shouldn't be kept out of those spaces. Maybe two wrongs don't make a right.

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I would agree with you but as a non lawyer it still seems like a sticky legal situation that the whole university could be held liable for speech that a student perceives as being hateful to them, if that is actually what is going on.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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In any such land-national-ethnic conflict like this there is plenty of hate on both sides.

You think all the hate just comes from the Arabs?

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Yes, but that is a broader historical discussion apart from the immediate efforts to reduce tensions and avoid escalation into a broader regional conflict.

As far as the rebuilding of a Jewish temple goes, no Christian should be ignorant of what will happen there if it is built...meaningless animal sacrifice that slanders Christ and welcoming the Antichrist.

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It'll be their faith in their land, so it's no bother to me.

If we're gonna worry about that last paragraph, islam is quite a bit bigger concern. It doesn't just preach intolerance of other faiths, it instructs its followers to act on it. And they do.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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In any such land-national-ethnic conflict like this there is plenty of hate on both sides.

You think all the hate just comes from the Arabs?

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Sigh. Dude, I've lived there. Spent countless hours alone with muslims.....with their families.....stood around a communal feast and eaten lamb with my hands with them. Alone. Only infidel present. It would blow your mind.

If you think the only reason Arabs hate Jews is because of what Israel has done in the last 70 years, you are fully and truly ignorant of islamic worldview.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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In any such land-national-ethnic conflict like this there is plenty of hate on both sides.

You think all the hate just comes from the Arabs?

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Sigh. Dude, I've lived there. Spent countless hours alone with muslims.....with their families.....stood around a communal feast and eaten lamb with my hands with them. Alone. Only infidel present. It would blow your mind.

If you think the only reason Arabs hate Jews is because of what Israel has done in the last 70 years, you are fully and truly ignorant of islamic worldview.

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Same.

They remind me a lot of Aggies. Individually there are loads of very likeable Muslims. Get a group together and that largely dissolves into "cult" like mentality pretty quickly.

I did meet and spend time with a ton of Arabs and non Arab Muslims having lived in that region. The problem is that the moderates (and there are plenty) refuse to speak up when the extremist act poorly. Like if you're entire church experience was Westboro Baptist and other Christians just sort looked the other way because deep down they sort of agree

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is now reported to have Fully Canceled his Trip to Israel after it was Postponed yesterday, due to the Threat of an Iranian Attack.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) August 14, 2024

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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In any such land-national-ethnic conflict like this there is plenty of hate on both sides.

You think all the hate just comes from the Arabs?

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The kind of institutional, widespread, and deep hatred that generates multiple mass invasions/attacks against a neighbor in the 20th and 21st Centuries? Yes, all Arab hate.

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Well things can also change... not all their Arab neighbors hate them.

As of right now they have peace treaties with both Egypt (the big dog in the region) and Jordan.

Lebanon's arab Christians (a sizeable part of the population) are not enemies of Israel

The UAE now had diplomatic relations with them.

And even Saudi Arabia has move to have closer ties to Israel..."Recently, Saudi Arabia has made the shift to limit the threats it faces to no more than two enemies: Iran and Sunni Islamist political opposition. These happen to be seen as the two threats facing Israel as well. This has brought both countries to an unlikely alliance. In the words of an influential member of the Al Saud ruling family, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, 'For the first time, Saudi Arabian interests and Israel are almost parallel"

Their big opponents are the Palestinians (who they are currently occupying the West Bank from) and Iran and Syria...the militant groups they support.

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Breaking: Jewish students who sued UCLA won a preliminary injunction against UCLA.

The administration is prohibited from allowing the exclusion of Jewish students in areas of campus and can no longer tolerate terror enthusiasts harassing Jewish students. pic.twitter.com/k1IYFuuPXR

— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) August 14, 2024

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It's amazing and disgusting that they had to go to court to get a major university to stop acting like Nazis.

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I think this is just a slippery slope type of thing. The university would now be responsible if anyone on campus says something that a Jewish person perceives is anti semitic? That cant be a good precedent to set. For instance, Ben Shapiro says its anti semitic if you say a Jewish person has more loyalty to Israel than America.

Meanwhile whites can be kept out of certain spaces and openly discriminated against but do not have the ADL or any group to fight on their behalf.

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Perhaps whites shouldn't be kept out of those spaces. Maybe two wrongs don't make a right.

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Anti-white hatred far, far exceeds any amount of anti-semitism in this country.

A lot of the anti-whitism comes from the actions of jews but a lot of non-whites dont know or care to see the difference between whites and jews.

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

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You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
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It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.