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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

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You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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1. Well those happen to be facts....I am still not sure why you have your panties in a bunch about historic and current demographic trends? And get strangely upset when people bring them up.

2. An interesting take and one not born out by the facts. Israel is defined in law as a Jewish State....a non-Jewish State would then not be Israel but something else.

I doubt a "greater Israel" as you call it with Israel trying to absorb in Millions of West Bank and Gaza Arabs would work well.

But again I had not realized to what extent you engage in utopian thinking....and regard any discussion of people and ethnic groups as "racialist historicity"

Why not just have Israel merge with its large Egyptian neighbor (110 million)....it would be fine right? Israel would still be Israel huh?

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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Israel did annex Gaza and are setting up to annex West Bank.

They are killing everyone in there so that they wont become a minority.

I wish Europe would adopt the Israel model of depopulation so that whites dont become minorities in their own countries.

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https://www.axios.com/2024/08/13/us-approves-weapons-sale-israel-20-billion

U.S. approves $20 billion in weapons sales to Israel
Barak Ravid

The Biden administration on Tuesday approved more than $20 billion major arms sales to Israel, including new F-15 fighter jets and tens of thousands of tank and mortar shells.

Why it matters: Most of the weapons sales are long-term deals and will only be delivered several years from now, but Israeli officials said the announcement send a message to Iran and Hezbollah as they threaten to attack Israel.

A U.S. official said the deals were announced when they were ready but admitted their potential impact at a time when the U.S. wants to project to the region its support for Israel's long-term security.
Driving the news: The most significant deal is the sale of 50 F-15IA fighter jets and the upgrade of 25 F-15I fighter jets that are already in service in the Israeli Air Force. The deal is worth $18.8 billion.

The Biden administration also approved the sale of 50,000 120mm mortar shells and 32,000 120mm tank shells.
Another deal involves the sale of 30 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles for fighter jets.
The last deal that was approved is for the sale of military tactical vehicles.
Behind the scenes: Israel waited quite a long time for these deals to be approved, an Israeli official told Axios.

One of the more challenging deals was the F-15 jets, which the Biden administration needed to carefully navigate due to political sensitivities around U.S. support of Israel in Gaza and the fear that members of Congress would put a hold on the sale due to the war, Israeli and U.S. officials said.
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant's visit to Washington several weeks ago helped push the deals forward, Israeli and U.S. officials said.
Since the beginning of the war in Gaza, Gallant has maintained constant contact with senior Biden administration officials, including Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and consistently discussed and addressed issues surrounding ammunition and force build up both short-term for the war and long-term for the Israel Defense Forces future needs, an Israeli official said.

Israeli and U.S. officials said Gallant became a critical partner for the Biden administration during the past two years on a set of issues wider than the war in Gaza that were important to the U.S., including the West Bank and Lebanon.
"This helped him in pushing the U.S. to do things that were important for Israel," an Israeli official said.
What they're saying: Gallant thanked Austin and Blinken for advancing the deals "that assist Israel in developing and maintaining its qualitative military edge in the region."

The White House said in a statement that the weapons sales "will support Israel's long-term security by resupplying stocks of critical munitions and investing in long-term upgrades in capability."
Between the lines: For the White House, the deals also help fend off claims from Republicans ahead of the presidential elections that the Biden-Harris administration doesn't supply weapons to Israel.

On the other hand, it could increase criticism of the administration among progressives who want Vice President Harris to commit to an arms embargo on Israel.

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This is a joke.

The US gives them tax dollars then claims they will buy equipment.

The taxpayers money has been constantly transferred to a very small group of people.

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boognish_bear said:

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https://www.axios.com/2024/08/13/us-approves-weapons-sale-israel-20-billion

U.S. approves $20 billion in weapons sales to Israel
Barak Ravid

The Biden administration on Tuesday approved more than $20 billion major arms sales to Israel, including new F-15 fighter jets and tens of thousands of tank and mortar shells.

Why it matters: Most of the weapons sales are long-term deals and will only be delivered several years from now, but Israeli officials said the announcement send a message to Iran and Hezbollah as they threaten to attack Israel.

A U.S. official said the deals were announced when they were ready but admitted their potential impact at a time when the U.S. wants to project to the region its support for Israel's long-term security.
Driving the news: The most significant deal is the sale of 50 F-15IA fighter jets and the upgrade of 25 F-15I fighter jets that are already in service in the Israeli Air Force. The deal is worth $18.8 billion.

The Biden administration also approved the sale of 50,000 120mm mortar shells and 32,000 120mm tank shells.
Another deal involves the sale of 30 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles for fighter jets.
The last deal that was approved is for the sale of military tactical vehicles.
Behind the scenes: Israel waited quite a long time for these deals to be approved, an Israeli official told Axios.

One of the more challenging deals was the F-15 jets, which the Biden administration needed to carefully navigate due to political sensitivities around U.S. support of Israel in Gaza and the fear that members of Congress would put a hold on the sale due to the war, Israeli and U.S. officials said.
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant's visit to Washington several weeks ago helped push the deals forward, Israeli and U.S. officials said.
Since the beginning of the war in Gaza, Gallant has maintained constant contact with senior Biden administration officials, including Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and consistently discussed and addressed issues surrounding ammunition and force build up both short-term for the war and long-term for the Israel Defense Forces future needs, an Israeli official said.

Israeli and U.S. officials said Gallant became a critical partner for the Biden administration during the past two years on a set of issues wider than the war in Gaza that were important to the U.S., including the West Bank and Lebanon.
"This helped him in pushing the U.S. to do things that were important for Israel," an Israeli official said.
What they're saying: Gallant thanked Austin and Blinken for advancing the deals "that assist Israel in developing and maintaining its qualitative military edge in the region."

The White House said in a statement that the weapons sales "will support Israel's long-term security by resupplying stocks of critical munitions and investing in long-term upgrades in capability."
Between the lines: For the White House, the deals also help fend off claims from Republicans ahead of the presidential elections that the Biden-Harris administration doesn't supply weapons to Israel.

On the other hand, it could increase criticism of the administration among progressives who want Vice President Harris to commit to an arms embargo on Israel.

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This is a joke.

The US gives them tax dollars then claims they will buy equipment.

The taxpayers money has been constantly transferred to a very small group of people.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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It was established that the school was loaded with Hamas fighters. Most of the casualties were in fact Hamas fighters.

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I'm sure it was as I know how they operate. However, Israel needs to be much more surgical. Wipe out Hamas, but one innocent death of kids and civilians is not ok.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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In any such land-national-ethnic conflict like this there is plenty of hate on both sides.

You think all the hate just comes from the Arabs?

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The kind of institutional, widespread, and deep hatred that generates multiple mass invasions/attacks against a neighbor in the 20th and 21st Centuries? Yes, all Arab hate.

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Well things can also change... not all their Arab neighbors hate them.

As of right now they have peace treaties with both Egypt (the big dog in the region) and Jordan.

Lebanon's arab Christians (a sizeable part of the population) are not enemies of Israel

The UAE now had diplomatic relations with them.

And even Saudi Arabia has move to have closer ties to Israel..."Recently, Saudi Arabia has made the shift to limit the threats it faces to no more than two enemies: Iran and Sunni Islamist political opposition. These happen to be seen as the two threats facing Israel as well. This has brought both countries to an unlikely alliance. In the words of an influential member of the Al Saud ruling family, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, 'For the first time, Saudi Arabian interests and Israel are almost parallel"

Their big opponents are the Palestinians (who they are currently occupying the West Bank from) and Iran and Syria...the militant groups they support.

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The hate is Arab. Much different than all Arabs hate.

Your response proves my point further. Israel has proven it is willing to make peace with anyone, including Arabs, and including Arabs who not too long ago invaded/attacked them.

The problem is Palestine, Iran, and like-minded terrorists. (Oh, and American university students . . . .)

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J.R. said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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In any such land-national-ethnic conflict like this there is plenty of hate on both sides.

You think all the hate just comes from the Arabs?

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The kind of institutional, widespread, and deep hatred that generates multiple mass invasions/attacks against a neighbor in the 20th and 21st Centuries? Yes, all Arab hate.

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Well things can also change... not all their Arab neighbors hate them.

As of right now they have peace treaties with both Egypt (the big dog in the region) and Jordan.

Lebanon's arab Christians (a sizeable part of the population) are not enemies of Israel

The UAE now had diplomatic relations with them.

And even Saudi Arabia has move to have closer ties to Israel..."Recently, Saudi Arabia has made the shift to limit the threats it faces to no more than two enemies: Iran and Sunni Islamist political opposition. These happen to be seen as the two threats facing Israel as well. This has brought both countries to an unlikely alliance. In the words of an influential member of the Al Saud ruling family, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, 'For the first time, Saudi Arabian interests and Israel are almost parallel"

Their big opponents are the Palestinians (who they are currently occupying the West Bank from) and Iran and Syria...the militant groups they support.

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Lebanon is really interesting . I spent a couple weeks there last summer. (best trip I've been on) Our hosts (I'd call them Christian ruling class). My friend who knows, says that the conventional wisdom is that Lebanon is 70-30 Muslim/Christian and he said the real ratio is now 10% Christian. Such a wonderful country that is just a disaster. It is very intermingled. I know for a fact that our hosts paid off Hezbollah in order for us to travel in S. Lebanon. Just how it works. Unbeknownst to us, we had security with us.

I was in Tyre and Sidon just before the civil war broke out in 1975. Also went north to Cedars to the Casino. We stayed at the Phoenecian Hotel which I'm pretty sure was blown to smitherens in the war. It was a beautiful country and you could feel the tension in the air.

We were hosted by Christians and they told us not to discuss any political opinions. When I went south to Trye the Muslim's took my passport and held it until I returned that evening. The driver would not allow me out of the car while he stopped to get us some drinks. I was allowed to roam the ruins by myself for several hours and take plenty of photos.

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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In any such land-national-ethnic conflict like this there is plenty of hate on both sides.

You think all the hate just comes from the Arabs?

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The kind of institutional, widespread, and deep hatred that generates multiple mass invasions/attacks against a neighbor in the 20th and 21st Centuries? Yes, all Arab hate.

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Well things can also change... not all their Arab neighbors hate them.

As of right now they have peace treaties with both Egypt (the big dog in the region) and Jordan.

Lebanon's arab Christians (a sizeable part of the population) are not enemies of Israel

The UAE now had diplomatic relations with them.

And even Saudi Arabia has move to have closer ties to Israel..."Recently, Saudi Arabia has made the shift to limit the threats it faces to no more than two enemies: Iran and Sunni Islamist political opposition. These happen to be seen as the two threats facing Israel as well. This has brought both countries to an unlikely alliance. In the words of an influential member of the Al Saud ruling family, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, 'For the first time, Saudi Arabian interests and Israel are almost parallel"

Their big opponents are the Palestinians (who they are currently occupying the West Bank from) and Iran and Syria...the militant groups they support.

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Lebanon is really interesting . I spent a couple weeks there last summer. (best trip I've been on) Our hosts (I'd call them Christian ruling class). My friend who knows, says that the conventional wisdom is that Lebanon is 70-30 Muslim/Christian and he said the real ratio is now 10% Christian. Such a wonderful country that is just a disaster. It is very intermingled. I know for a fact that our hosts paid off Hezbollah in order for us to travel in S. Lebanon. Just how it works. Unbeknownst to us, we had security with us.

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Hard to know...since its demographics are such a sensitive issue there that they have not held a National Census in decades.

[Because religious balance is a sensitive political issue, a national census has not been conducted since 1932, before the founding of the modern Lebanese state.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/lebanon-census/

Why Lebanon won't-officially, at least-count its own population]


They need ATL to come over and tell them how such concerns are "racialist historicity" and should not come into play at all.

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J.R. said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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It was established that the school was loaded with Hamas fighters. Most of the casualties were in fact Hamas fighters.

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I'm sure it was as I know how they operate. However, Israel needs to be much more surgical. Wipe out Hamas, but one innocent death of kids and civilians is not ok.

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Sounds 'pretty' but you know it's completely unrealistic.

Hamas will simply continue to fire at Israelis using women and children as human shields.

And no soldier is going to willingly die by playing into the hands of an enemy using others as human shields .

He is going to call in air or artillery support every time.

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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1. Well those happen to be facts....I am still not sure why you have your panties in a bunch about historic and current demographic trends? And get strangely upset when people bring them up.

2. An interesting take and one not born out by the facts. Israel is defined in law as a Jewish State....a non-Jewish State would then not be Israel but something else.

I doubt a "greater Israel" as you call it with Israel trying to absorb in Millions of West Bank and Gaza Arabs would work well.

But again I had not realized to what extent you engage in utopian thinking....and regard any discussion of people and ethnic groups as "racialist historicity"

Why not just have Israel merge with its large Egyptian neighbor (110 million)....it would be fine right? Israel would still be Israel huh?

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Race matters way more to you than it should.

And the greater Israel idea isn't utopian, it's pragmatic and real. Then Israel really could resolve its own issues by controlling their region better from outside meddlers.

BREAKING:

The Taliban showcased American military equipment left behind after the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan in a military parade. pic.twitter.com/8WNUGfyzRQ

— Globe Eye News (@GlobeEyeNews) August 14, 2024

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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1. Well those happen to be facts....I am still not sure why you have your panties in a bunch about historic and current demographic trends? And get strangely upset when people bring them up.

2. An interesting take and one not born out by the facts. Israel is defined in law as a Jewish State....a non-Jewish State would then not be Israel but something else.

I doubt a "greater Israel" as you call it with Israel trying to absorb in Millions of West Bank and Gaza Arabs would work well.

But again I had not realized to what extent you engage in utopian thinking....and regard any discussion of people and ethnic groups as "racialist historicity"

Why not just have Israel merge with its large Egyptian neighbor (110 million)....it would be fine right? Israel would still be Israel huh?

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Race matters way more to you than it should.

And the greater Israel idea isn't utopian, it's pragmatic and real.

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1. What is the appropriate amount that race/ethnicity should matter in terms of national questions? Do most people on earth share you view that race/ethnicity should not matter at all?

2. So far both sides of the political divide in the region reject a "greater Israel" solution of cramming the Palestinian Arabs and Israel Jews together into one State and then demanding that by some magic they must make it work.

I guess I should not be surprised you are literally advocating for the plan that Muammar Gaddafi had for Israel-Palestine. Merging them together.

Do you think Gaddafi was a rational leader with reasonable political plans?

[The Gaddafi proposal intended to permanently resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict through a secular, federalist, republican one-state solution, which was first articulated by Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the son of Muammar Gaddafi of Libya, at the Chatham House in London and later adopted by Muammar Gaddafi himself.
Its main points are:

• Creation of a binational Jewish-Palestinian state called the "Federal Republic of the Holy Land";]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isratin#:~:text=The%20Gaddafi%20Isratin%20proposal%20intended,later%20adopted%20by%20Muammar%20Gaddafi

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BREAKING:

The Taliban showcased American military equipment left behind after the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan in a military parade. pic.twitter.com/8WNUGfyzRQ

— Globe Eye News (@GlobeEyeNews) August 14, 2024

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Now this is the type of material Trump should be making political comments and ads about.

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Why?

I thought you were pro-globalism and pro-allowing the government to print money out of thin air to pay for a defense department that cant keep a balanced budget.

You should be proud of the money wasted on abandoned equipment in Afganistan.

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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Israel annex a group of people who are launching rockets at your citizens and celebrating a murderous foray that killed over 1,000 citizens. Gaza's want Jews eradicated from the world arth. I just don't understand how a 2 state solution works if 1 state wants Jews dead & won't control their radical elements

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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Israel annex a group of people who are launching rockets at your citizens and celebrating a murderous foray that killed over 1,000 citizens. Gaza's want Jews eradicated from the world arth. I just don't understand how a 2 state solution works if 1 state wants Jews dead & won't control their radical elements

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I just dont understand why people say Israel is our "#1 ally" when Jews(ADL, SPLC, ACLU, Pro-Israel Lobby, etc) fight against and demonize Whites when we talk about protecting our citizens and mass deportations of illegals who are murdering and raping the native citizens of European and North American countries.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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Not sure you're processing the events correctly. Hate on Bibi all you want, but I have high certainty any replacement of his would conduct the situation without much variance.

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makes some sense. So, according to your take, they are all thugs . More illustrates my point. Eff them. cut them off. Bibi is like Trumps...trying to stay out of jail.

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https://www.axios.com/2024/08/13/us-approves-weapons-sale-israel-20-billion

U.S. approves $20 billion in weapons sales to Israel
Barak Ravid

The Biden administration on Tuesday approved more than $20 billion major arms sales to Israel, including new F-15 fighter jets and tens of thousands of tank and mortar shells.

Why it matters: Most of the weapons sales are long-term deals and will only be delivered several years from now, but Israeli officials said the announcement send a message to Iran and Hezbollah as they threaten to attack Israel.

A U.S. official said the deals were announced when they were ready but admitted their potential impact at a time when the U.S. wants to project to the region its support for Israel's long-term security.
Driving the news: The most significant deal is the sale of 50 F-15IA fighter jets and the upgrade of 25 F-15I fighter jets that are already in service in the Israeli Air Force. The deal is worth $18.8 billion.

The Biden administration also approved the sale of 50,000 120mm mortar shells and 32,000 120mm tank shells.
Another deal involves the sale of 30 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles for fighter jets.
The last deal that was approved is for the sale of military tactical vehicles.
Behind the scenes: Israel waited quite a long time for these deals to be approved, an Israeli official told Axios.

One of the more challenging deals was the F-15 jets, which the Biden administration needed to carefully navigate due to political sensitivities around U.S. support of Israel in Gaza and the fear that members of Congress would put a hold on the sale due to the war, Israeli and U.S. officials said.
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant's visit to Washington several weeks ago helped push the deals forward, Israeli and U.S. officials said.
Since the beginning of the war in Gaza, Gallant has maintained constant contact with senior Biden administration officials, including Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and consistently discussed and addressed issues surrounding ammunition and force build up both short-term for the war and long-term for the Israel Defense Forces future needs, an Israeli official said.

Israeli and U.S. officials said Gallant became a critical partner for the Biden administration during the past two years on a set of issues wider than the war in Gaza that were important to the U.S., including the West Bank and Lebanon.
"This helped him in pushing the U.S. to do things that were important for Israel," an Israeli official said.
What they're saying: Gallant thanked Austin and Blinken for advancing the deals "that assist Israel in developing and maintaining its qualitative military edge in the region."

The White House said in a statement that the weapons sales "will support Israel's long-term security by resupplying stocks of critical munitions and investing in long-term upgrades in capability."
Between the lines: For the White House, the deals also help fend off claims from Republicans ahead of the presidential elections that the Biden-Harris administration doesn't supply weapons to Israel.

On the other hand, it could increase criticism of the administration among progressives who want Vice President Harris to commit to an arms embargo on Israel.

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This is a joke.

The US gives them tax dollars then claims they will buy equipment.

The taxpayers money has been constantly transferred to a very small group of people.

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yup . you are correct. How many rainbow flags could we buy for the same percentage of our conscience ? pick it

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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Israel did annex Gaza and are setting up to annex West Bank.

They are killing everyone in there so that they wont become a minority.

I wish Europe would adopt the Israel model of depopulation so that whites dont become minorities in their own countries.

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Do you live in Europe?

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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It was established that the school was loaded with Hamas fighters. Most of the casualties were in fact Hamas fighters.

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I'm sure it was as I know how they operate. However, Israel needs to be much more surgical. Wipe out Hamas, but one innocent death of kids and civilians is not ok.

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Sounds 'pretty' but you know it's completely unrealistic.

Hamas will simply continue to fire at Israelis using women and children as human shields.

And no soldier is going to willingly die by playing into the hands of an enemy using others as human shields .

He is going to call in air or artillery support every time.

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well, then, by your standards, keep the geoncide going.

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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Israel annex a group of people who are launching rockets at your citizens and celebrating a murderous foray that killed over 1,000 citizens. Gaza's want Jews eradicated from the world arth. I just don't understand how a 2 state solution works if 1 state wants Jews dead & won't control their radical elements

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I just dont understand why people say Israel is our "#1 ally" when Jews(ADL, SPLC, ACLU, Pro-Israel Lobby, etc) fight against and demonize Whites when we talk about protecting our citizens and mass deportations of illegals who are murdering and raping the native citizens of European and North American countries.

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. Who is our #1 ally in the ME?

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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Israel annex a group of people who are launching rockets at your citizens and celebrating a murderous foray that killed over 1,000 citizens. Gaza's want Jews eradicated from the world arth. I just don't understand how a 2 state solution works if 1 state wants Jews dead & won't control their radical elements

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I just dont understand why people say Israel is our "#1 ally" when Jews(ADL, SPLC, ACLU, Pro-Israel Lobby, etc) fight against and demonize Whites when we talk about protecting our citizens and mass deportations of illegals who are murdering and raping the native citizens of European and North American countries.

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. Who is our #1 ally in the ME?

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NO ONE

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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Israel annex a group of people who are launching rockets at your citizens and celebrating a murderous foray that killed over 1,000 citizens. Gaza's want Jews eradicated from the world arth. I just don't understand how a 2 state solution works if 1 state wants Jews dead & won't control their radical elements

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The existence of the independence creates the venue entities for international meddling. That's the true source of the conflict. The 2 million plus Arabs living in Israel have a much better and peaceful life than Gazans and West Bankers.

They don't produce rockets in Gaza or the West Bank. Combining into one state will A. Let Israel actually solve their enemy issues, or at least contain it better by complete regional perimeter control (borders) and internal management of threats, including federal policing. B. Will allow better economic opportunity for the Palestinian population. C. There are actual government structures that could facilitate a Federal System like the U.S. with states, including a state of Gaza or West Bank under a Federally controlled Israel, if a subset of autonomy is needed.

As long as there are competing entities, the territories will simply be proxies for anti-Israel efforts, and their weak economies dependent upon foreign support will not allow them to back out of it.

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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1. Well those happen to be facts....I am still not sure why you have your panties in a bunch about historic and current demographic trends? And get strangely upset when people bring them up.

2. An interesting take and one not born out by the facts. Israel is defined in law as a Jewish State....a non-Jewish State would then not be Israel but something else.

I doubt a "greater Israel" as you call it with Israel trying to absorb in Millions of West Bank and Gaza Arabs would work well.

But again I had not realized to what extent you engage in utopian thinking....and regard any discussion of people and ethnic groups as "racialist historicity"

Why not just have Israel merge with its large Egyptian neighbor (110 million)....it would be fine right? Israel would still be Israel huh?

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Race matters way more to you than it should.

And the greater Israel idea isn't utopian, it's pragmatic and real.

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1. What is the appropriate amount that race/ethnicity should matter in terms of national questions? Do most people on earth share you view that race/ethnicity should not matter at all?

2. So far both sides of the political divide in the region reject a "greater Israel" solution of cramming the Palestinian Arabs and Israel Jews together into one State and then demanding that by some magic they must make it work.

I guess I should not be surprised you are literally advocating for the plan that Muammar Gaddafi had for Israel-Palestine. Merging them together.

Do you think Gaddafi was a rational leader with reasonable political plans?

[The Gaddafi proposal intended to permanently resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict through a secular, federalist, republican one-state solution, which was first articulated by Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the son of Muammar Gaddafi of Libya, at the Chatham House in London and later adopted by Muammar Gaddafi himself.
Its main points are:

• Creation of a binational Jewish-Palestinian state called the "Federal Republic of the Holy Land";]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isratin#:~:text=The%20Gaddafi%20Isratin%20proposal%20intended,later%20adopted%20by%20Muammar%20Gaddafi

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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Not sure you're processing the events correctly. Hate on Bibi all you want, but I have high certainty any replacement of his would conduct the situation without much variance.

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makes some sense. So, according to your take, they are all thugs . More illustrates my point. Eff them. cut them off. Bibi is like Trumps...trying to stay out of jail.

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I think they have a direct interest in eliminating Hamas and those sympathetic to its cause.

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BREAKING:

The Taliban showcased American military equipment left behind after the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan in a military parade. pic.twitter.com/8WNUGfyzRQ

— Globe Eye News (@GlobeEyeNews) August 14, 2024

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Now this is the type of material Trump should be making political comments and ads about.

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Agreed

But Trump is too egocentric to do so.

Would rather send out a text on who banged the most Playboy centerfolds.

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It was also White Anglo Saxon Protestants that were oppressing us, fought against us, executed us, and pillaged our country. They fought us again later on as well multiple times. So I ask, why does WASP matter?

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1. Well those WASPy Brits were just trying to put down a rebellious secessionist movement that was illegal under British law

I think you have told us several times how you don't like secessionists and rebels.

So you can't really hate on them for that right?

2. I think you know well that it matters in terms of replacing the historic population of a country with another.

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right?

You guys who want closed borders for Israel and open borders for the West are some strange cats

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Weird take since those aren't my opinions, and your racialist historicity is irrelevant.

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What exactly is "racalist historicity"....how would define that...and how exactly is that something you attribute to me

And you dodged the question...

If Israel opened its borders to mass migration from Africa or the Islamic world then it would no longer be Israel right? Is that an accurate or inaccurate statement?

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Your racialist historicity is your constant posting of historical demographics that get brought unnecessarily into conversations.

And Israel would be Israel regardless of what their immigration policy is because it's a nation. It might be different culturally or otherwise, but it would still be Israel.

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1. Demographics are often relevant to the topic…wars, economics, etc….not sure of the specific situation you think was unwarranted or unnecessary.

2. You think "Israel would be Israel" with replacing the Jews of Israel with Somali Muslims…and would by magic not be completely transformed? That is a very interesting take

I think are confusing the continuance of a State with the continuance of a Nation.

PS

You still did not give me a definition of what "racialist historicity" is…..

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1. In certain contexts, yes, but not in every one.

You constantly bring your ethno-race angles into conversations that have no relevance. For example, what is the relevance of your Israel immigration question? Some coy way of proving Israel would cease to be a Jewish driven culture if they overwhelmed the population with non Jewish foreigners? Well duh! Maybe you can pull up one of the umpteen posts you've made about the population make up of the Israel/Palestine region pre-1900 showing how Israel was Muslim and not Jewish before. You know, that racialist historicity stuff.

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1. Simply being honest I don't bring up ethno-race angles in every conversation.

2. You still not define what "racialist historicity" is....and I have asked you several times. I am starting to think you just made up the term and don't even have a definition of it.

3. That is not a coy way of asking the question...in this case I am asking the question straight up. How can you be a Jewish State but have a population made up of say super majority Somali Muslims? How does that work?

Israel is defined by law as a Jewish State.

[JERUSALEM Israel passed a new "nation-state law" last week that's sparking both celebration and fierce debate over the very nature of Israel itself.

The law does three big things:
[ol]

It states that "the right to exercise national self-determination" in Israel is "unique to the Jewish people."]

[/ol]

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I've answered it, you just don't like the answer or inference.

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Honeslty bud…you know you haven't

What is "racialist historicity"

If you can spend the time to type out things on this forum you can spend the time to give us a definition…

And you keep dogging the question about how Israel can be Israel without Jews as a majority people

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The ethno-racial make up of regions/states/nations throughout their history. Something you interject often, and now answered for the third f-ing time.

What do I need to say other than Israel can be Israel with Jews as a minority. Heck, I've advocated for something that could likely do that as a resolution of the Palestinian issue. Have Israel annex Gaza and the West Bank and just have a greater Israel.

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Israel annex a group of people who are launching rockets at your citizens and celebrating a murderous foray that killed over 1,000 citizens. Gaza's want Jews eradicated from the world arth. I just don't understand how a 2 state solution works if 1 state wants Jews dead & won't control their radical elements

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I just dont understand why people say Israel is our "#1 ally" when Jews(ADL, SPLC, ACLU, Pro-Israel Lobby, etc) fight against and demonize Whites when we talk about protecting our citizens and mass deportations of illegals who are murdering and raping the native citizens of European and North American countries.

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. Who is our #1 ally in the ME?

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LOL

Buddy, you should take a poll from your assorted girlfriends.

Suspect they would tell you the correct answer.


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Yes, but that is a broader historical discussion apart from the immediate efforts to reduce tensions and avoid escalation into a broader regional conflict.

As far as the rebuilding of a Jewish temple goes, no Christian should be ignorant of what will happen there if it is built...meaningless animal sacrifice that slanders Christ and welcoming the Antichrist.

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When the Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem it will herald the beginning of end times as predicted in Daniel, Ezekiel, Revelation, and others. It will not necessarily mean those events are imminent, however. They could be imminent or they could be years away.

Quite likely. It's spineless and cowardly behavior. But that's not surprising coming tomorrow university administrators.

It's wrong for anyone to be kept out of a public place because they are members of a religious, ethnic, or national group. That is blatantly illegal and constitutional.

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yesterday's attack by Israel was beyond the pale. How can the live with themselves bombing schools (I do understand that Hezbollah inhabits theses places). However that POS Bibi is a thug. Cut those mffers off 100%. We sent those savages $3B yesterday. Hope you good tax payers are ok with that.

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If legitimate military targets are infesting a building; why is it ' beyond the pale' to bomb the building ?

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Because of Jew hatred ... duh.

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Yeah right, clown. My partner is Jewish. So, that prolly aint it. I have made the distinction here many a time. I have no beef with the people of Israel , but I do have an issue with the govt. Bibi is a thug. I have no issue going after military targets, but it cannot be indiscriminate involving kids and innocent civilian. Just barbaric. Again. cut them off.

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The irony of the "hatred" comment is lost on Red.

The hatred driving this war is that of the Arab for the Jew

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In any such land-national-ethnic conflict like this there is plenty of hate on both sides.

You think all the hate just comes from the Arabs?

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The hate resulting in terrorist attacks all seem to come from Palestinians or Arab organizations such as Hamas or Hezbollah. No doubt there is plenty of Jewish hatred but I rarely see reports of violence resulting from it. And the current war is not an example of that since Israel is responding to the barbaric attack on October 7.

The Arab-Jewish conflict literally goes back thousands of years to Abraham, Sarah, & Hagar. It's described pretty thoroughly in the book of Genesis.