Elite university presidents refuse to condemn calls for genocide!

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KaiBear
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Imagine the real courage it would take to now hire a white, straight male to replace her.
historian
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Does anyone in Harvard administration have that much courage? Doubtful.
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4th and Inches
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historian said:

Does anyone in Harvard administration have that much courage? Doubtful.
maybe they could just hire a new president who has previous experience at another institution of higher education where they had success with the initiatives that they created and lead the school with, you know, maybe hiring somebody based on merits..

Its a crazy idea but why not?
BUGWBBear
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She's staying on with faculty, so she can continue poisoning minds.
historian
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You & I think alike but we aren't woke enough. I get the feeling Harvard does not think that way, even in the wake of woke failures.
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BUGWBBear said:

She's staying on with faculty, so she can continue poisoning minds.







Redbrickbear
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Amazing how the media frames these kinds of stories…"conservatives attack"






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Redbrickbear said:

Amazing how the media frames these kinds of stories…"conservatives attack"







Not sure how is this is a conservative attack.

The reality is at any institute of higher learning if you plagiarize your papers,
and it is known you get kicked out of the institution.

If you do it many times over, it is clear your are not qualified for graduation, much less a
Doctorate.

This should be a "value" period, not conservative or liberal, not black, white, brown or asian.

If you have to cheat repeatedly to complete your course work, you should be disqualified from the course work and encouraged to find something else to do with your life.
historian
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She was guilty of stealing of someone else's work and somehow she's the victim! Typical woke nonsense.

Plagiarism is one of the worst things one can do in academia. Naturally, Leftists do it too often. Joe Biden did it multiple times. NY Times reporters have been caught.

It's natural for Leftists because they are mostly socialists (or Bolshevik's, communists, fascists, etc. All are variations on the same thing) and in the final analysis socialism is all about stealing.
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Harrison Bergeron
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The reaction of the radical left-wing media to this story is Clown World even for that Idiocracy. This is actually serious:


4th and Inches
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Harrison Bergeron said:

The reaction of the radical left-wing media to this story is Clown World even for that Idiocracy. This is actually serious:



oh no she didnt?!!
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historian
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Apparently, Gay's resignation letter also plagiarized!

ROFL! Claudine Gay's Resignation Letter Hilariously FAILS Plagiarism Checker and NO, We're Not Joking https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/02/claudine-gays-resignation-letter-n2391325
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caught by the media as she entered her brownstone, gay remarked: 'I regret that I have just one life to give
for my country'.

- KKM

{ sipping java }

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The AP has been getting more biased for the past 20 years but thats it for me. Conservatives have a new weapon and it is plagiarism? So write your own dissertation and strip the conservatives of their big guns! So stupid I can hardly believe it.
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Irony.. honesty is a weapon now

A large mass of people voted against a big orange liar in 2020 by voting for a canidate who literally dropped out of presidential race twice prior for.. checks notes.. lying!

Honesty isnt a new tool of the GOP, your post is a far bigger symptom of how far off track we are..
historian
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The truly scary part about all of this idiocy is how many "useful idiots" will follow like brainless lemmings.
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Harrison Bergeron
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Porteroso said:

The AP has been getting more biased for the past 20 years but thats it for me. Conservatives have a new weapon and it is plagiarism? So write your own dissertation and strip the conservatives of their big guns! So stupid I can hardly believe it.
Most of the elite, left-wing news sources don't even pretend anymore. I think it really started during Obama but got really bad during 2012 during the first burn, loot, murder episodes.

I mean this is right up there with "mostly peaceful."

The bias used to be around what was covered and not covered. And then it became willingly parroting disinformation. Now it is actually creating disinformation.
historian
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They aren't journalists. They are propagandists who act like their degrees are from the Joseph Goebbels School of "Journalism".
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Porteroso
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Most of the AP is still filled with quality journalism. It is the fact that a slight bias has become acceptable that allows for more extreme alternative fact reporting like this. But no need to go overboard, in most articles a clear attempt is made to be factual.
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AP is now walking back the conservative weapon comments..
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historian said:

They aren't journalists. They are propagandists who act like their degrees are from the Joseph Goebbels School of "Journalism".
all narrative, all the time....
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Mostly false narrative
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4th and Inches said:

AP is now walking back the conservative weapon comments..

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/us/plagiarism-bill-ackman-neri-oxman-claudine-gay-harvard.html
Yeah otherwise the libs are now weaponizing.... plagiarism? Stealing?
historian
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The fascists weaponize everything. The truly frustrating part is that they usually get away with it because the media & Big Tech covers for them.
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Harrison Bergeron
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Porteroso said:

4th and Inches said:

AP is now walking back the conservative weapon comments..

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/us/plagiarism-bill-ackman-neri-oxman-claudine-gay-harvard.html
Yeah otherwise the libs are now weaponizing.... plagiarism? Stealing?
This is a great example of how stupid the authoritarian media is ...
historian
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And how stupid they think we are
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Jacques Strap
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Ackman plans to use AI in a massive plagiarism review for all of the MIT faculty. Next up Harvard's entire faculty and suggests donors will want this for every other school from an independent 3rd party review company. He suggests that large corporations need independent auditors, schools need independent reviews also.

historian
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He's correct. But will it happen?
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Jacques Strap said:

Ackman plans to use AI in a massive plagiarism review for all of the MIT faculty. Next up Harvard's entire faculty and suggests donors will want this for every other school from an independent 3rd party review company. He suggests that large corporations need independent auditors, schools need independent reviews also.


She said the quiet part out loud.
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Jacques Strap said:

Ackman plans to use AI in a massive plagiarism review for all of the MIT faculty. Next up Harvard's entire faculty and suggests donors will want this for every other school from an independent 3rd party review company. He suggests that large corporations need independent auditors, schools need independent reviews also.




Go for it. I'm curious
OsoCoreyell
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When i wrote my dissertation (1M years ago), I not only had to go through my review panel, but MONTHS before I defended before the panel, I had MULTIPLE meetings with my source checkers - a group of fellow grad students who served to cite check other candidate's dissertations for just these kinds of errors. There was also a similar arrangement at the school where I taught. The idea was to catch any inadvertent failures to cite or appropriately quote. The system is not foolproof, and it isn't nearly as robust as search engine's make it now, but it wasn't exactly easy to screw up.

I also had many meetings with doctoral candidates to discuss the exacting standards of plagiarism rules. Unless the humanities faculty at her degree granting institution were just lazy as heck, it is impossible for her not to have been aware of exactly what constituted plagiarism, and the consequences (i.e. career death in academia).

Like it or not, there has been a paternalistic thought that certain scholars who belong to privileged classes get by with things that others would never be allowed to get away with. I experienced this on a doctoral review panel when several of the panelists had comments about the quality of research for a candidate of color. We provided initial feedback and were then called individually by the dean, who told us that we needed to "give it another read, with some grace" and that our institution needed to be seen to grant degrees to a certain number of "the right kind" of candidates. It was galling and we categorically refused. None of the folks that refused are in academia today.
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OsoCoreyell said:

When i wrote my dissertation (1M years ago), I not only had to go through my review panel, but MONTHS before I defended before the panel, I had MULTIPLE meetings with my source checkers - a group of fellow grad students who served to cite check other candidate's dissertations for just these kinds of errors. There was also a similar arrangement at the school where I taught. The idea was to catch any inadvertent failures to cite or appropriately quote. The system is not foolproof, and it isn't nearly as robust as search engine's make it now, but it wasn't exactly easy to screw up.

I also had many meetings with doctoral candidates to discuss the exacting standards of plagiarism rules. Unless the humanities faculty at her degree granting institution were just lazy as heck, it is impossible for her not to have been aware of exactly what constituted plagiarism, and the consequences (i.e. career death in academia).

Like it or not, there has been a paternalistic thought that certain scholars who belong to privileged classes get by with things that others would never be allowed to get away with. I experienced this on a doctoral review panel when several of the panelists had comments about the quality of research for a candidate of color. We provided initial feedback and were then called individually by the dean, who told us that we needed to "give it another read, with some grace" and that our institution needed to be seen to grant degrees to a certain number of "the right kind" of candidates. It was galling and we categorically refused. None of the folks that refused are in academia today.
Not surprising. I will sometimes listen to Victor Davis Hanson's podcast, and he will talk about his experiences over the years in a very similar way. Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans - the "good" POCs - get admitted with exponentially lower scores and then effectively will graduate regardless of the qualify of their work.

I have no problem with economic-based affirmative action for college admission. No every applicant has access to the same resources. However, affirmative action in post-graduate work is insane. One of these things has to be true:
- Left-wing colleges are inherently racist against "good" POC
- Left-wing colleges do not believe "good" POC are as intelligent or as capable as Whites and "bad" POC
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Really simple rule of thumb for racial issues: if doing something for of against one group is offensive of discriminatory then it is just as off egg nose of discriminatory if done for another group.

The Leftists seem to be basing many of their decisions on the Orwellian idea that some people "are more equal than others." That's unequal and it is unconstitutional.
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OsoCoreyell said:

When i wrote my dissertation (1M years ago), I not only had to go through my review panel, but MONTHS before I defended before the panel, I had MULTIPLE meetings with my source checkers - a group of fellow grad students who served to cite check other candidate's dissertations for just these kinds of errors. There was also a similar arrangement at the school where I taught. The idea was to catch any inadvertent failures to cite or appropriately quote. The system is not foolproof, and it isn't nearly as robust as search engine's make it now, but it wasn't exactly easy to screw up.

I also had many meetings with doctoral candidates to discuss the exacting standards of plagiarism rules. Unless the humanities faculty at her degree granting institution were just lazy as heck, it is impossible for her not to have been aware of exactly what constituted plagiarism, and the consequences (i.e. career death in academia).

Like it or not, there has been a paternalistic thought that certain scholars who belong to privileged classes get by with things that others would never be allowed to get away with. I experienced this on a doctoral review panel when several of the panelists had comments about the quality of research for a candidate of color. We provided initial feedback and were then called individually by the dean, who told us that we needed to "give it another read, with some grace" and that our institution needed to be seen to grant degrees to a certain number of "the right kind" of candidates. It was galling and we categorically refused. None of the folks that refused are in academia today.
I hate to read your last sentence that you and the others lost careers by not just "passing" students.
 
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