Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Welcome back.

sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of some on your side.

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The Hypocrisy comes completely from your neo-con/neo-liberal interventionist side

Expansion and costly proxy wars into God awful areas of the world is somehow ok (Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya) .......even if most of these interventionist and utopian plans end in massive failure.

But its a super big problem if we just try to buy resource rich and strategic Greenland or take back control of the Panama canal

The USA should be focusing on its traditional sphere of influence in the Western Hemisphere.....economically building it up and protecting it...not playing world cop in the 3rd World

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In fact, I don't buy into a sphere of influence argument of any kind. To all major world powers, that sphere is the world.

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That model is no longer valid, if it ever was. Hopefully Trump is easing Americans toward understanding this.

Despite Whiterock's best efforts to convince me otherwise, I don't think buying Greenland is a terrible idea per se. But it would need to be in the context of the kind of broad security understanding that Russia has been seeking with the West.

KaiBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

---

I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Welcome back.

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Thanks. Hope you have had a good holiday season.

Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

---

I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Also, provoking Russia today is different than in the last 30 years, we were completely dominant on the planet.
Now it's Russia and China plus a few others that are alllied. And we're not sure what lengths that alliance will eventually go.

Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

---

I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

---

Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Welcome back.

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Thanks. Hope you have had a good holiday season.

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Went to Vegas to spend Christmas with son # 1.

Now leaving for Maui in a few days.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

---

I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

---

Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

---

Also, provoking Russia today is different than in the last 30 years, we were completely dominant on the planet.
Now it's Russia and China plus a few others that are alllied. And we're not sure what lengths that alliance will eventually go.

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We missed a golden opportunity for alliance between Russia and Europe after the Cold War (which is something the Russians have sought in varying degrees for centuries). Now we've put them on the verge of a decisive shift to the East. The stupidity is mind-boggling.

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The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.

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What? You think China and Russia are more of a threat than climate and white supremacy? The godless Dems will not be happy. LOL

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It's impossible for the fascists to be happy. Even when they accomplish one big their idiotic objectives, they always find some other bogeyman to risk on about. Or they are slapped in the face by reality.

ron, we all know you avoid Republicans, especially Conservatives, so the idea that you have met with any, much less that they agree with you, is right up there with Biden's claim he would have won the election if he stayed in.

Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

---

I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Same old stuff

sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

---

I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

---

Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Same old stuff

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Profoundly and dangerously wrong. We used to have understandings about what we did and did not do. Messing around with each other's colonies in the four corners of the globe is not the same as firing missiles on each other's homeland or killing each other's people.

Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Same old stuff

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Profoundly and dangerously wrong. We used to have understandings about what we did and did not do. Messing around with each other's colonies in the four corners of the globe is not the same as firing missiles on each other's homeland or killing each other's people.

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We supplied weapons to Ukraine long before Russia invaded. And Russia sold weapons to Iraq and others. Russia knew the west would support Ukraine, but he didn't care. He thought he'd win over the weekend.

I am a bit confused about Greenland's military gain. I believe Greenland and Denmark are Nato Members. We have been Allies for years. What would we gain by getting total control of Greenland?

NATO isn't what it used to be and our allies are not necessarily reliable.

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I am a bit confused about Greenland's military gain. I believe Greenland and Denmark are Nato Members. We have been Allies for years. What would we gain by getting total control of Greenland?

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Things could always change in the future with Denmark (low probability but still possible)

Gaining Greenland for the USA would mean long term geo-strategic security in that area….and lots of mineral wealth


[Greater control over Greenland could be useful to the United States for its strategic location and its resources. It lies along the shortest route from Europe to North America, vital for the U.S. ballistic missile warning system.]

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I am a bit confused about Greenland's military gain. I believe Greenland and Denmark are Nato Members. We have been Allies for years. What would we gain by getting total control of Greenland?

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From a strategy perspective it changes the equation from reactive to preemptive. As a NATO member, we would have to wait until something happened and NATO declared Article 5 support.

As a territory, we could go in prepare and develop.

The more interesting thing is on the one hand we hear cut, cut, cut spending and on the other buy Greenland and the Panama Canal. Unless they are going to be revenue producing, typically when annexing you do a study to show that extending the same level of services to the new area will not be a financial drain. So, I would expect there is a financial piece to this as well.

A lot of discussion about getting Greenland, and very little discussion about what effective incorporating Greenland into the union as either a state or territory would have on our domestic politics.

People live there, say 50,000-60,000, some mix of majority Eskimo and Danish. EU influenced. Do they get to vote? Do they get US citizenship? Are the sort of welfare benefits extended to them that our native Alaskans / Indians get?

The tidal wave of support that will see Donald Trump become the next president did not include a "lets get Greenland and the Panama Canal" constituency.

I do see that Lauren Boebert has filed a bill to kill the ATF. Let's see if we can get that passed. Need one for the DOE and a way to downsize or eliminate the EPA.

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We bought the Virgin Islands from Denmark for $25M in 1917 Other purchases include: Alaska from Russia; West Florida, East Florida. part of louisiana and a sliver of Colorado from Spain; Louisiana Purchase from France; Gadsden Purchase from Mexico;.Oregon and Washington by treaty from Britain. Texas by annexation, along with several other territories...it's quite a lengthy list.

The fact that we haven't purchased or annexed territory in most people's lifetimes doesn't make buying Greenland or encouraging Canadian provinces to join the US an outlandish proposal.

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and none of those purchases turned out to be bad deals

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We bought the Virgin Islands from Denmark for $25M in 1917 Other purchases include: Alaska from Russia; West Florida, East Florida. part of louisiana and a sliver of Colorado from Spain; Louisiana Purchase from France; Gadsden Purchase from Mexico;.Oregon and Washington by treaty from Britain. Texas by annexation, along with several other territories...it's quite a lengthy list.

The fact that we haven't purchased or annexed territory in most people's lifetimes doesn't make buying Greenland or encouraging Canadian provinces to join the US an outlandish proposal.

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and none of those purchases turned out to be bad deals

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Is that a question or a statement?

I would say, no. Having control of geography is never a bad deal for a world that relies on transportation of goods. Water routes, air space, mineral rights, etc... You name it, it is always better to have a seat at the table than not.

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Same old stuff

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Profoundly and dangerously wrong. We used to have understandings about what we did and did not do. Messing around with each other's colonies in the four corners of the globe is not the same as firing missiles on each other's homeland or killing each other's people.

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We supplied weapons to Ukraine long before Russia invaded. And Russia sold weapons to Iraq and others. Russia knew the west would support Ukraine, but he didn't care. He thought he'd win over the weekend.

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Russia spent the better part of a decade preparing for the war and sanctions. They knew it could take some time, though I suspect they underestimated the West's cynicism in prolonging the slaughter well beyond its natural course. That's beside the point, though. We aren't just supplying weapons but also the personnel to operate them. The Russians in turn are actively hunting them down and destroying them. That's just one of many unprecedented factors with the potential for escalation.

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Same old stuff

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Profoundly and dangerously wrong. We used to have understandings about what we did and did not do. Messing around with each other's colonies in the four corners of the globe is not the same as firing missiles on each other's homeland or killing each other's people.

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We supplied weapons to Ukraine long before Russia invaded. And Russia sold weapons to Iraq and others. Russia knew the west would support Ukraine, but he didn't care. He thought he'd win over the weekend.

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Russia spent the better part of a decade preparing for the war and sanctions. They knew it could take some time, though I suspect they underestimated the West's cynicism in prolonging the slaughter well beyond its natural course. That's beside the point, though. We aren't just supplying weapons but also the personnel to operate them. The Russians in turn are actively hunting them down and destroying them. That's just one of many unprecedented factors with the potential for escalation.

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You keep leaving out the little fact that Russia invaded... I think that qualifies as an escalation that Russia can control.

Trump's pursuit of Greenland is a much better model for adding to the sphere of influence. Greenlanders wanting to join the US as a territory is up to 57%. As a territory Greenland has a better chance of more say in their rule and maintaining their culture as Puerto Rico, American Samoa and Guam has shown. Trump has shown to be more diplomatic less heavy handed than Putin.

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Same old stuff

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Profoundly and dangerously wrong. We used to have understandings about what we did and did not do. Messing around with each other's colonies in the four corners of the globe is not the same as firing missiles on each other's homeland or killing each other's people.

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We supplied weapons to Ukraine long before Russia invaded. And Russia sold weapons to Iraq and others. Russia knew the west would support Ukraine, but he didn't care. He thought he'd win over the weekend.

---

Russia spent the better part of a decade preparing for the war and sanctions. They knew it could take some time, though I suspect they underestimated the West's cynicism in prolonging the slaughter well beyond its natural course. That's beside the point, though. We aren't just supplying weapons but also the personnel to operate them. The Russians in turn are actively hunting them down and destroying them. That's just one of many unprecedented factors with the potential for escalation.

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You keep leaving out the little fact that Russia invaded... I think that qualifies as an escalation that Russia can control.

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And Russia was always going to invade if we tired to tear Ukraine out from its orbit

(just like the US would invade Canada or Mexico if the roles were reversed)

That is why it was always a stupid idea.....it guaranteed violence and conflict

A decade of conflict and Ukraine is still not in NATO/EU and Moscow still has ships at its Crimea naval base

Its been a blood bath with no end in sight

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

---

I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Same old stuff

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Profoundly and dangerously wrong. We used to have understandings about what we did and did not do. Messing around with each other's colonies in the four corners of the globe is not the same as firing missiles on each other's homeland or killing each other's people.

---

We supplied weapons to Ukraine long before Russia invaded. And Russia sold weapons to Iraq and others. Russia knew the west would support Ukraine, but he didn't care. He thought he'd win over the weekend.

---

Russia spent the better part of a decade preparing for the war and sanctions. They knew it could take some time, though I suspect they underestimated the West's cynicism in prolonging the slaughter well beyond its natural course. That's beside the point, though. We aren't just supplying weapons but also the personnel to operate them. The Russians in turn are actively hunting them down and destroying them. That's just one of many unprecedented factors with the potential for escalation.

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You keep leaving out the little fact that Russia invaded... I think that qualifies as an escalation that Russia can control.

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And Russia was always going to invade if we tired to tear Ukraine out from its orbit

(just like the US would invade Canada or Mexico if the roles were reversed)

That is why it was always a stupid idea.....it guaranteed violence and conflict

A decade of conflict and Ukraine is still not in NATO/EU and Moscow still has ships at its Crimea naval base

Its been a blood bath with no end in sight

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Yet under Trump he didn't. Under Obama - Crimea. Under Biden - Full Invasion.

Give credit where it is due, it is not an accident or Russia wasn't prepared. They were prepared enough to invade Crimea earlier.

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The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.

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So now global warming is real ?

Who knew ?

Of course Greenland is warming up a little.
But the Danes do NOT want to sell it.

Trump will NOT invade Greenland to possess it.

This is all some kind of political distraction. Silly pulp for the legacy media to chew on.

Much like the ' alien ' drones in New Jersey that the media got all worked up about only a few weeks ago.

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Same with the Canada.

I think he is going to make a move on the Panama Canal...

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LOL

Trump is not invading Panama.

Good grief.

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Who said anything about invading? Any of these? Trump will make a deal, that is what he does. He will try to negotiate a deal with Panama. He is not sending the Marines into the Canal... The military and the Canada stuff is posturing.

Now, he may blow the hell out of some Hamas or Iranian bases to make his point. But, no one said a thing about invading.

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What kind of military action is he not ruling out?

I think he's full of bs, but just pretend he isnt... what kind of military action do you guys think he would take in Greenland or Canada?

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He's not ruling out anything, nor should he. And that's important for Russia and China to hear = USA is not going to tolerate Greenland leaving the Western Order, so keepa yer hands off.

You do realize China has already attempted to sign commercial development deals, loans, etc with Greenland, right?

LOL the neverTrumpers are so reflexively verkrampte

ANOTHER STAR ON OLD GLORY? New Poll Shows That the Majority in Greenland Supports Becoming Part of the United States | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran https://t.co/FXvmDQkkdJ

— DeltaGun *ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ* (@KJV66) January 13, 2025

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The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.

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So now global warming is real ?

Who knew ?

Of course Greenland is warming up a little.
But the Danes do NOT want to sell it.

Trump will NOT invade Greenland to possess it.

This is all some kind of political distraction. Silly pulp for the legacy media to chew on.

Much like the ' alien ' drones in New Jersey that the media got all worked up about only a few weeks ago.

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Same with the Canada.

I think he is going to make a move on the Panama Canal...

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LOL

Trump is not invading Panama.

Good grief.

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Who said anything about invading? Any of these? Trump will make a deal, that is what he does. He will try to negotiate a deal with Panama. He is not sending the Marines into the Canal... The military and the Canada stuff is posturing.

Now, he may blow the hell out of some Hamas or Iranian bases to make his point. But, no one said a thing about invading.

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What kind of military action is he not ruling out?

I think he's full of bs, but just pretend he isnt... what kind of military action do you guys think he would take in Greenland or Canada?

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He's not ruling out anything, nor should he. And that's important for Russia and China to hear = USA is not going to tolerate Greenland leaving the Western Order, so keepa yer hands off.

You do realize China has already attempted to sign commercial development deals, loans, etc with Greenland, right?

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I don't think people understand that China uses these deals as part of warfare.

I mean….really verkrampte

NEW @thenatpulse: Greenland PM Gives Major Indication of Future U.S. Involvement.

Greenland wants to enhance its cooperati......

READ ON:https://t.co/77LXxYu6Sq

— Raheem. (@RaheemKassam) January 13, 2025

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LOL the neverTrumpers are so reflexively verkrampte

ANOTHER STAR ON OLD GLORY? New Poll Shows That the Majority in Greenland Supports Becoming Part of the United States | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran https://t.co/FXvmDQkkdJ

— DeltaGun *ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ* (@KJV66) January 13, 2025

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So, he is talking full Statehood, not just a territory? Wow, that would be quite the jump...

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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Not remotely like we have in the last three years.

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Same old stuff

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Profoundly and dangerously wrong. We used to have understandings about what we did and did not do. Messing around with each other's colonies in the four corners of the globe is not the same as firing missiles on each other's homeland or killing each other's people.

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We supplied weapons to Ukraine long before Russia invaded. And Russia sold weapons to Iraq and others. Russia knew the west would support Ukraine, but he didn't care. He thought he'd win over the weekend.

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Russia spent the better part of a decade preparing for the war and sanctions. They knew it could take some time, though I suspect they underestimated the West's cynicism in prolonging the slaughter well beyond its natural course. That's beside the point, though. We aren't just supplying weapons but also the personnel to operate them. The Russians in turn are actively hunting them down and destroying them. That's just one of many unprecedented factors with the potential for escalation.

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You keep leaving out the little fact that Russia invaded... I think that qualifies as an escalation that Russia can control.

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And Russia was always going to invade if we tired to tear Ukraine out from its orbit

(just like the US would invade Canada or Mexico if the roles were reversed)

That is why it was always a stupid idea.....it guaranteed violence and conflict

A decade of conflict and Ukraine is still not in NATO/EU and Moscow still has ships at its Crimea naval base

Its been a blood bath with no end in sight

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So predictable but so wrong.

Ukraine is a sovereign, non-aligned nation.
Greenland is sovereign territory of a NATO member (who has created this situation with utterly feckless management of its sovereign territory).

The never Trumpers cannot think strategically unless the progressive talking heads spell it out for them.

Quite honestly, given the world today, I can't understand all the never Trumpers' drama over this. Of course securing Greenland is something we need to do.

And the never Trumpers complete denial of the West's culture dilution and its potential impact on long standing relationships. For example, Canada is our friend because they need us to maintain their socialist dystopia not because they like us.

Can't wait for the "why does Greenland have free healthcare and we don't?" debates…

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Can't wait for the "why does Greenland have free healthcare and we don't?" debates…

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It will become a retirement haven...