The real reason for Greenland

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Realitybites said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.




Even given this, isn't a Greenland run by a NATO ally good enough?


Can you not see what is happening to European nations? Those countries are looking less and less like our allies of yesterday. And it's not due to Trump exactly, Trump just made it so it's clear as day. Liberty in the West is moving towards becoming a scarce commodity. Not hard to imagine a NATO where quite frankly we're on very different pages, or not even in the same book. Could even imagine a future where a NATO country or ten happily sell us out. Heck today, it's not hard to imagine a Canada run by foreigners with very different allegiances within a decade. Sure NATO members need us right now, but what if their population continues to shift, who will they cozy up to?

So sure, "good enough" works right now, but long term I'd rather have it under our direct ownership or control.

As little credit as some here give Trump, the truth is he's thinking ahead. His administration is looking a decade out doing what must be done. Many naysayers would just be happy to just take the path of no resistance and let Venezuela become a proxy for China. Greenland is different of course, but long term, who knows, so I'm glad securing it is being seriously advanced.

While we're chastising Europe, Can you lay out the policies of Trump that have championed the cause of liberty?


Literally one of the dumbest posts in recent history, on the day political prisoners are being freed.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


ATL Bear
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

ATL Bear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Realitybites said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.




Even given this, isn't a Greenland run by a NATO ally good enough?


Can you not see what is happening to European nations? Those countries are looking less and less like our allies of yesterday. And it's not due to Trump exactly, Trump just made it so it's clear as day. Liberty in the West is moving towards becoming a scarce commodity. Not hard to imagine a NATO where quite frankly we're on very different pages, or not even in the same book. Could even imagine a future where a NATO country or ten happily sell us out. Heck today, it's not hard to imagine a Canada run by foreigners with very different allegiances within a decade. Sure NATO members need us right now, but what if their population continues to shift, who will they cozy up to?

So sure, "good enough" works right now, but long term I'd rather have it under our direct ownership or control.

As little credit as some here give Trump, the truth is he's thinking ahead. His administration is looking a decade out doing what must be done. Many naysayers would just be happy to just take the path of no resistance and let Venezuela become a proxy for China. Greenland is different of course, but long term, who knows, so I'm glad securing it is being seriously advanced.

While we're chastising Europe, Can you lay out the policies of Trump that have championed the cause of liberty?


Literally one of the dumbest posts in recent history, on the day political prisoners are being freed.
You can't be seriously holding that out given the context of the entire action.
Jack Bauer
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Trump - " The fact they had a boat land there 500 years ago does not mean they own the land."

Um.....

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Jack Bauer
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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The EU and the free world will be safer with the US having control or free rein in Greenland.

The people will be much better off as well. Watch this for facts you didn't know about how not so good the Greenlanders have it.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1586804409124191
Quote:

Greenland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, with an average rate of 96 suicides per 100,000 people annually from 1970 to 2018.



Homicide Rate Comparison (More Reliable for Greenland)
Because Greenland's population is only ~56,000, homicide rates fluctuate dramatically year to year.
UNODC and other global datasets show:
  • Greenland's homicide rate is significantly higher than Denmark and most of Europe, often ranging between 510 per 100,000, depending on the year.
  • Europe's average homicide rate is around 11.5 per 100,000, with many countries even lower.
This means Greenland's homicide rate can be 510 higher than the European average.

Why Greenland's Crime Profile Looks Different
Several factors explain the contrast:
  • Small population small changes create big statistical swings
  • High rates of alcohol abuse (documented in Nordic publichealth studies)
  • Remote communities with limited policing resources
  • High rates of domestic violence and assault compared to European averages


ATL Bear
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Imperialism is back in vogue I guess.
Redbrickbear
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Jack Bauer said:

Trump - " The fact they had a boat land there 500 years ago does not mean they own the land."

Um.....




Yep, but for the record.

You also really have to populate and inhabit a place to own it. And be willing to defend it

[There are an estimated 30 to 35 million descendants of the Mayflower Pilgrims alive today living in the United States, according to the General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD)]

Since the Norse Vikings abandoned their Greenland settlements in the 1400s (after about 300 years there)….Greenland has had a small population and it's been super majority ethnic Inuit.

If the Inuit Greenlanders want to join the USA…no real reason they should be prevented from doing so

[Greenland's population of 57,695….
There are roughly 4,000 to 7,500 ethnic Danes in Greenland, representing about 7-12% of the population, with most being Danish citizens born in Denmark, living alongside the majority Inuit population (around 90%), though precise figures vary by source]
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Europe hasn't done a good job of defending Europe - they rely 99% on the US. Trump and team are correct, it's time for us to take control and make sure that we are in a position to yet again keep the whole West free.

Progressives and so called Republican voting moderates are always short sighted, they absolutely want or are willing for the US to be weak ... due to optics. They are weak people who believe crossing their fingers and wishing upon a star is a reasonable strategy for world and national defense.

VP is spot on here
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2255662451580867
J.R.
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dumb
Redbrickbear
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ATL Bear said:

Imperialism is back in vogue I guess.


It never went out of style

And it never will


whiterock
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Porteroso said:

whiterock said:

Porteroso said:

Buying it can be considered an investment. There are important natural resources there, and i believe Vance that our missile defense system is blind up there.

Doesn't change the fact that Trump's rhetoric on this is dumb.

An agreement that allows Greenlanders to still elect their own politicians and run their economy would be preferable to outright buying it. And we get the right to defend it and ourselves with it, however we see fit. Seems that's all we need.

LOL Chaos is a ladder. Trump's rhetoric is creating opportunity.

Don't be surprised if the acquisition is financed by private industry = oil companies, mining companies, tech companies, etc.... Could trade deal monies be used to make "investments?"

We wouldn't have to worry about how to cool data centers if we located them in Greenland, now, would we?

But we dont need chaos or want it, except in the right places. We want to maintain our place in the world order, which is in charge of it, allied with everyone who matters. Superior to the 1 or 2 true competitors largely because of our allies.

Throwing allies or strategic alliances like NATO into chaos is no ladder at all, at least not upwards. It's falling off the ladder.

Just 3 more years of you praising the rhetoric of the insane. Goodness.

LOL 3 more years watching Trump inflame your vanities. I'm gonna enjoy that.
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Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Imperialism is back in vogue I guess.


It never went out of style

And it never will




our goal is not to dominate South America.
our goal is to prevent anyone else from dominating South America.
KaiBear
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If true the Columbian people will be very angry ( as they want nothing to do with Venezuela ) and Trump will remove the Columbian president.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Europe hasn't done a good job of defending Europe - they rely 99% on the US. Trump and team are correct, it's time for us to take control and make sure that we are in a position to yet again keep the whole West free.

Progressives and so called Republican voting moderates are always short sighted, they absolutely want or are willing for the US to be weak ... due to optics. They are weak people who believe crossing their fingers and wishing upon a star is a reasonable strategy for world and national defense.

VP is spot on here
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2255662451580867

Actually, Europe has done a fantastic job of defending Europe, they got us to be the muscle. NATO has worked, it worked because we provided the credibility.

If we want to renegotiate the NATO rules because the old rules are not working, like Trump has in both terms, we should be allowed to do so. You are about to see a MAJOR change based on the new environment.

EU will give Trump the access and rights he wants in Greenland in exchange for Greenland remaining Danish and US security guarantees (binding) in Ukraine. There will be a deal cut, but there is going to be a give on both side. Trump is correct on Greenland and EU does not have capability to defend, so a deal will be cut. Trump is not taking a territory from Denmark.
LIB,MR BEARS
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FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Europe hasn't done a good job of defending Europe - they rely 99% on the US. Trump and team are correct, it's time for us to take control and make sure that we are in a position to yet again keep the whole West free.

Progressives and so called Republican voting moderates are always short sighted, they absolutely want or are willing for the US to be weak ... due to optics. They are weak people who believe crossing their fingers and wishing upon a star is a reasonable strategy for world and national defense.

VP is spot on here
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2255662451580867

Actually, Europe has done a fantastic job of defending Europe, they got us to be the muscle. NATO has worked, it worked because we provided the credibility.

If we want to renegotiate the NATO rules because the old rules are not working, like Trump has in both terms, we should be allowed to do so. You are about to see a MAJOR change based on the new environment.

EU will give Trump the access and rights he wants in Greenland in exchange for Greenland remaining Danish and US security guarantees (binding) in Ukraine. There will be a deal cut, but there is going to be a give on both side. Trump is correct on Greenland and EU does not have capability to defend, so a deal will be cut. Trump is not taking a territory from Denmark.


Agree with paragraph 3
FLBear5630
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Europe hasn't done a good job of defending Europe - they rely 99% on the US. Trump and team are correct, it's time for us to take control and make sure that we are in a position to yet again keep the whole West free.

Progressives and so called Republican voting moderates are always short sighted, they absolutely want or are willing for the US to be weak ... due to optics. They are weak people who believe crossing their fingers and wishing upon a star is a reasonable strategy for world and national defense.

VP is spot on here
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2255662451580867

Actually, Europe has done a fantastic job of defending Europe, they got us to be the muscle. NATO has worked, it worked because we provided the credibility.

If we want to renegotiate the NATO rules because the old rules are not working, like Trump has in both terms, we should be allowed to do so. You are about to see a MAJOR change based on the new environment.

EU will give Trump the access and rights he wants in Greenland in exchange for Greenland remaining Danish and US security guarantees (binding) in Ukraine. There will be a deal cut, but there is going to be a give on both side. Trump is correct on Greenland and EU does not have capability to defend, so a deal will be cut. Trump is not taking a territory from Denmark.


Agree with paragraph 3

Think of Europe using other people's money to get defense paid for and it resulted in the longest peace string I can think of. From their perspective, they managed it great.
LIB,MR BEARS
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FLBear5630 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Europe hasn't done a good job of defending Europe - they rely 99% on the US. Trump and team are correct, it's time for us to take control and make sure that we are in a position to yet again keep the whole West free.

Progressives and so called Republican voting moderates are always short sighted, they absolutely want or are willing for the US to be weak ... due to optics. They are weak people who believe crossing their fingers and wishing upon a star is a reasonable strategy for world and national defense.

VP is spot on here
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2255662451580867

Actually, Europe has done a fantastic job of defending Europe, they got us to be the muscle. NATO has worked, it worked because we provided the credibility.

If we want to renegotiate the NATO rules because the old rules are not working, like Trump has in both terms, we should be allowed to do so. You are about to see a MAJOR change based on the new environment.

EU will give Trump the access and rights he wants in Greenland in exchange for Greenland remaining Danish and US security guarantees (binding) in Ukraine. There will be a deal cut, but there is going to be a give on both side. Trump is correct on Greenland and EU does not have capability to defend, so a deal will be cut. Trump is not taking a territory from Denmark.


Agree with paragraph 3

Think of Europe using other people's money to get defense paid for and it resulted in the longest peace string I can think of. From their perspective, they managed it great.

From a European point of view it's a great deal.

From an American point of view it's a bad deal and gets worse everyday.

Europe is quickly becoming a house of cards.
FLBear5630
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Europe hasn't done a good job of defending Europe - they rely 99% on the US. Trump and team are correct, it's time for us to take control and make sure that we are in a position to yet again keep the whole West free.

Progressives and so called Republican voting moderates are always short sighted, they absolutely want or are willing for the US to be weak ... due to optics. They are weak people who believe crossing their fingers and wishing upon a star is a reasonable strategy for world and national defense.

VP is spot on here
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2255662451580867

Actually, Europe has done a fantastic job of defending Europe, they got us to be the muscle. NATO has worked, it worked because we provided the credibility.

If we want to renegotiate the NATO rules because the old rules are not working, like Trump has in both terms, we should be allowed to do so. You are about to see a MAJOR change based on the new environment.

EU will give Trump the access and rights he wants in Greenland in exchange for Greenland remaining Danish and US security guarantees (binding) in Ukraine. There will be a deal cut, but there is going to be a give on both side. Trump is correct on Greenland and EU does not have capability to defend, so a deal will be cut. Trump is not taking a territory from Denmark.


Agree with paragraph 3

Think of Europe using other people's money to get defense paid for and it resulted in the longest peace string I can think of. From their perspective, they managed it great.

From a European point of view it's a great deal.

From an American point of view it's a bad deal and gets worse everyday.

Europe is quickly becoming a house of cards.

Somewhat. There is a move back to the center.
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FLBear5630 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Europe hasn't done a good job of defending Europe - they rely 99% on the US. Trump and team are correct, it's time for us to take control and make sure that we are in a position to yet again keep the whole West free.

Progressives and so called Republican voting moderates are always short sighted, they absolutely want or are willing for the US to be weak ... due to optics. They are weak people who believe crossing their fingers and wishing upon a star is a reasonable strategy for world and national defense.

VP is spot on here
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2255662451580867

Actually, Europe has done a fantastic job of defending Europe, they got us to be the muscle. NATO has worked, it worked because we provided the credibility.

If we want to renegotiate the NATO rules because the old rules are not working, like Trump has in both terms, we should be allowed to do so. You are about to see a MAJOR change based on the new environment.

EU will give Trump the access and rights he wants in Greenland in exchange for Greenland remaining Danish and US security guarantees (binding) in Ukraine. There will be a deal cut, but there is going to be a give on both side. Trump is correct on Greenland and EU does not have capability to defend, so a deal will be cut. Trump is not taking a territory from Denmark.


Agree with paragraph 3

Think of Europe using other people's money to get defense paid for and it resulted in the longest peace string I can think of. From their perspective, they managed it great.

From a European point of view it's a great deal.

From an American point of view it's a bad deal and gets worse everyday.

Europe is quickly becoming a house of cards.

Somewhat. There is a move back to the center.

And then there is England.

Hell, Britannia
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The EU and the free world will be safer with the US having control or free rein in Greenland.

The people will be much better off as well. Watch this for facts you didn't know about how not so good the Greenlanders have it.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1586804409124191
Quote:

Greenland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, with an average rate of 96 suicides per 100,000 people annually from 1970 to 2018.



Homicide Rate Comparison (More Reliable for Greenland)
Because Greenland's population is only ~56,000, homicide rates fluctuate dramatically year to year.
UNODC and other global datasets show:
  • Greenland's homicide rate is significantly higher than Denmark and most of Europe, often ranging between 510 per 100,000, depending on the year.
  • Europe's average homicide rate is around 11.5 per 100,000, with many countries even lower.
This means Greenland's homicide rate can be 510 higher than the European average.

Why Greenland's Crime Profile Looks Different
Several factors explain the contrast:
  • Small population small changes create big statistical swings
  • High rates of alcohol abuse (documented in Nordic publichealth studies)
  • Remote communities with limited policing resources
  • High rates of domestic violence and assault compared to European averages





Bonehoffer theory in full effect.
FLBear5630
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Mitch Blood Green said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The EU and the free world will be safer with the US having control or free rein in Greenland.

The people will be much better off as well. Watch this for facts you didn't know about how not so good the Greenlanders have it.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1586804409124191
Quote:

Greenland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, with an average rate of 96 suicides per 100,000 people annually from 1970 to 2018.



Homicide Rate Comparison (More Reliable for Greenland)
Because Greenland's population is only ~56,000, homicide rates fluctuate dramatically year to year.
UNODC and other global datasets show:
  • Greenland's homicide rate is significantly higher than Denmark and most of Europe, often ranging between 510 per 100,000, depending on the year.
  • Europe's average homicide rate is around 11.5 per 100,000, with many countries even lower.
This means Greenland's homicide rate can be 510 higher than the European average.

Why Greenland's Crime Profile Looks Different
Several factors explain the contrast:
  • Small population small changes create big statistical swings
  • High rates of alcohol abuse (documented in Nordic publichealth studies)
  • Remote communities with limited policing resources
  • High rates of domestic violence and assault compared to European averages





Bonehoffer theory in full effect.

They live on an ice sheet! **** its dark forever, it was depressing living in WI nevermind Greenland! Had to double the Vitamin D!
LIB,MR BEARS
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FLBear5630 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The EU and the free world will be safer with the US having control or free rein in Greenland.

The people will be much better off as well. Watch this for facts you didn't know about how not so good the Greenlanders have it.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1586804409124191
Quote:

Greenland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, with an average rate of 96 suicides per 100,000 people annually from 1970 to 2018.



Homicide Rate Comparison (More Reliable for Greenland)
Because Greenland's population is only ~56,000, homicide rates fluctuate dramatically year to year.
UNODC and other global datasets show:
  • Greenland's homicide rate is significantly higher than Denmark and most of Europe, often ranging between 510 per 100,000, depending on the year.
  • Europe's average homicide rate is around 11.5 per 100,000, with many countries even lower.
This means Greenland's homicide rate can be 510 higher than the European average.

Why Greenland's Crime Profile Looks Different
Several factors explain the contrast:
  • Small population small changes create big statistical swings
  • High rates of alcohol abuse (documented in Nordic publichealth studies)
  • Remote communities with limited policing resources
  • High rates of domestic violence and assault compared to European averages





Bonehoffer theory in full effect.

They live on an ice sheet! **** its dark forever, it was depressing living in WI nevermind Greenland! Had to double the Vitamin D!


So you believe they'll be even crazier the the Minneapolis crazies?
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whiterock said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Imperialism is back in vogue I guess.


It never went out of style

And it never will




our goal is not to dominate South America.
our goal is to prevent anyone else from dominating South America.



True
FLBear5630
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The EU and the free world will be safer with the US having control or free rein in Greenland.

The people will be much better off as well. Watch this for facts you didn't know about how not so good the Greenlanders have it.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1586804409124191
Quote:

Greenland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, with an average rate of 96 suicides per 100,000 people annually from 1970 to 2018.



Homicide Rate Comparison (More Reliable for Greenland)
Because Greenland's population is only ~56,000, homicide rates fluctuate dramatically year to year.
UNODC and other global datasets show:
  • Greenland's homicide rate is significantly higher than Denmark and most of Europe, often ranging between 510 per 100,000, depending on the year.
  • Europe's average homicide rate is around 11.5 per 100,000, with many countries even lower.
This means Greenland's homicide rate can be 510 higher than the European average.

Why Greenland's Crime Profile Looks Different
Several factors explain the contrast:
  • Small population small changes create big statistical swings
  • High rates of alcohol abuse (documented in Nordic publichealth studies)
  • Remote communities with limited policing resources
  • High rates of domestic violence and assault compared to European averages





Bonehoffer theory in full effect.

They live on an ice sheet! **** its dark forever, it was depressing living in WI nevermind Greenland! Had to double the Vitamin D!


So you believe they'll be even crazier the the Minneapolis crazies?

It is the Vitamin D... Or, I should say, lack of Vitamin D!!
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FLBear5630 said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Europe hasn't done a good job of defending Europe - they rely 99% on the US. Trump and team are correct, it's time for us to take control and make sure that we are in a position to yet again keep the whole West free.

Progressives and so called Republican voting moderates are always short sighted, they absolutely want or are willing for the US to be weak ... due to optics. They are weak people who believe crossing their fingers and wishing upon a star is a reasonable strategy for world and national defense.

VP is spot on here
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2255662451580867

Actually, Europe has done a fantastic job of defending Europe, they got us to be the muscle. NATO has worked, it worked because we provided the credibility.

If we want to renegotiate the NATO rules because the old rules are not working, like Trump has in both terms, we should be allowed to do so. You are about to see a MAJOR change based on the new environment.

EU will give Trump the access and rights he wants in Greenland in exchange for Greenland remaining Danish and US security guarantees (binding) in Ukraine. There will be a deal cut, but there is going to be a give on both side. Trump is correct on Greenland and EU does not have capability to defend, so a deal will be cut. Trump is not taking a territory from Denmark.

#1 was just a reword of my point. Europe has done nothing, no teeth. It's all the US.

As for Greenland and Ukraine, possibly. It is also quite possible that Trump doesn't do that because he doesn't need to. He can get Greenland if he wants it, without Ukraine security guarantees. But I'm good with whatever gives the US free rein in Greenland with zero say from our European culturally weak allies. Definitely an interesting start to the year.


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Mitch Blood Green said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

The EU and the free world will be safer with the US having control or free rein in Greenland.

The people will be much better off as well. Watch this for facts you didn't know about how not so good the Greenlanders have it.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1586804409124191
Quote:

Greenland has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, with an average rate of 96 suicides per 100,000 people annually from 1970 to 2018.



Homicide Rate Comparison (More Reliable for Greenland)
Because Greenland's population is only ~56,000, homicide rates fluctuate dramatically year to year.
UNODC and other global datasets show:
  • Greenland's homicide rate is significantly higher than Denmark and most of Europe, often ranging between 510 per 100,000, depending on the year.
  • Europe's average homicide rate is around 11.5 per 100,000, with many countries even lower.
This means Greenland's homicide rate can be 510 higher than the European average.

Why Greenland's Crime Profile Looks Different
Several factors explain the contrast:
  • Small population small changes create big statistical swings
  • High rates of alcohol abuse (documented in Nordic publichealth studies)
  • Remote communities with limited policing resources
  • High rates of domestic violence and assault compared to European averages





Bonehoffer theory in full effect.

Every one of your posts demonstrates it exactly. Glad you're waking up.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.

KaiBear
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.




Greenland does not matter enough to bully Denmark.
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KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.




Greenland does not matter enough to bully Denmark.

Nor does Greenland matter enough to blow up NATO.

This whole conversation is insane. And not about "national security."
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fubar said:

KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.




Greenland does not matter enough to bully Denmark.

Nor does Greenland matter enough to blow up NATO.

This whole conversation is insane. And not about "national security."


Agreed

Greenland is no reason to blow up NATO.

Paying a disproportionate share to defend Western Europe for over 70 years ……is a very valid reason to blow up NATO.

fubar
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KaiBear said:

fubar said:

KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.




Greenland does not matter enough to bully Denmark.

Nor does Greenland matter enough to blow up NATO.

This whole conversation is insane. And not about "national security."


Agreed

Greenland is no reason to blow up NATO.

Paying a disproportionate share to defend Western Europe for over 70 years ……is a very valid reason to blow up NATO.



Whatever
Gunter gleiben glauchen globen
KaiBear
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fubar said:

KaiBear said:

fubar said:

KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.




Greenland does not matter enough to bully Denmark.

Nor does Greenland matter enough to blow up NATO.

This whole conversation is insane. And not about "national security."


Agreed

Greenland is no reason to blow up NATO.

Paying a disproportionate share to defend Western Europe for over 70 years ……is a very valid reason to blow up NATO.



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LOL

My friend I was kind of hoping you would share your viewpoint.

After over 70 years isn't it time for these various countries to provide for their own defense spending ?
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fubar said:

KaiBear said:

fubar said:

KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.




Greenland does not matter enough to bully Denmark.

Nor does Greenland matter enough to blow up NATO.

This whole conversation is insane. And not about "national security."


Agreed

Greenland is no reason to blow up NATO.

Paying a disproportionate share to defend Western Europe for over 70 years ……is a very valid reason to blow up NATO.



Whatever

Europe cannot afford to let us blow up Nato, and will cut deals, which of course is why Trump is yanking their chain.

You two need to grab a globe. Hold it so that you are looking "top down," with the North Pole axis pointing directly at your face. Then think about how you plan to defend North America from an adversary who controls Greenland. Where do you want Russian/Chinese early warning radar and missile defense systems situated.....in Russia/China, or in Greenland?
 
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