The real reason for Greenland

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Redbrickbear
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whiterock said:

fubar said:

KaiBear said:

fubar said:

KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.




Greenland does not matter enough to bully Denmark.

Nor does Greenland matter enough to blow up NATO.

This whole conversation is insane. And not about "national security."


Agreed

Greenland is no reason to blow up NATO.

Paying a disproportionate share to defend Western Europe for over 70 years ……is a very valid reason to blow up NATO.



Whatever

Europe cannot afford to let us blow up Nato, and will cut deals, which of course is why Trump is yanking their chain.



Exactly,

This is NOT about "blowing up NATO"...its about putting pressure on Demark to make a real estate transaction
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greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

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william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

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Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?
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FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!



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hodedofome
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Jimmy Carr's thoughts on Greenland. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17c7We2552/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.
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FLBear5630 said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.

1. Technically Denmark did not get it until the 1800s. And the early Norse settlers, who were there for 300 years in Greenland, slowly abandoned it by the mid 1400s.

[The Norse stayed in Greenland for centuries. At the start of the 15th century, they disappeared with little trace. There are numerous possible reasons, including: a colder climate that made the island less habitable and conflict with the Inuit, who began to arrive in the areas that were populated by the Norse.

In 1721, Hans Egede, a Norwegian priest and missionary with support from the united Dano-Norwegian crown, reestablished contact with Greenland. A concern at the time was that the Norse settlers had missed the Reformation and were still Catholics. When Hans Egede arrived, however, he found only the Inuit, by then firmly established in most of Greenland, and he decided to focus his efforts on converting them to Christianity.

When the monarchy of Denmark and Norway broke apart in 1814, Denmark kept Greenland.]

2. Trump's rhetoric might actually encourage them to sell it.

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ATL Bear said:

Imperialism is back in vogue I guess.

It never goes out of style. See "The West, Sharia Law in."
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Florida, smart guy, but regularly can't see past the tip of his nose.

Actually thinks the dems won't just kill the filibuster to advance their radical agenda "on principle".

Now, he wants to leave Greenland in the hands of nations that are actively destroying themselves from within.

Clearly we don't want to invade Greenland. But clearly, we cannot just let progressives run the show. So Trump's approach is tough talk and getting people to the negotiating table.

Personally, it's pretty clear that Europe is only our friends when we follow in lock step with the progressive globalists. Deviate and they want you to fail. Not surprising, that is the globalist way.
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.

1. Technically Denmark did not get it until the 1800s. And the early Norse settlers, who were there for 300 years in Greenland, slowly abandoned it by the mid 1400s.

[The Norse stayed in Greenland for centuries. At the start of the 15th century, they disappeared with little trace. There are numerous possible reasons, including: a colder climate that made the island less habitable and conflict with the Inuit, who began to arrive in the areas that were populated by the Norse.

In 1721, Hans Egede, a Norwegian priest and missionary with support from the united Dano-Norwegian crown, reestablished contact with Greenland. A concern at the time was that the Norse settlers had missed the Reformation and were still Catholics. When Hans Egede arrived, however, he found only the Inuit, by then firmly established in most of Greenland, and he decided to focus his efforts on converting them to Christianity.

When the monarchy of Denmark and Norway broke apart in 1814, Denmark kept Greenland.]

2. Trump's rhetoric might actually encourage them to sell it.




They are not selling Greenland and we cant pay for it. 33T debt, remember? Or is that not an issue anymore?
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ATL Bear said:

I see the strategic reasons for a hopefully peaceful arrangement with/for Greenland due to the Russian moves in the Arctic with China's backing. I have to say I'm scratching my head with some you on your anti-Ukraine takes in light of your position, especially if your concern is Russian/Chinese expansion.


We already have the best scenario for Greenland. We have a base and can add more if needed. We once had many.

Most likely, Trump will enact the deals we have, take credit for it and move to the next Epstein file distraction n
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.

1. Technically Denmark did not get it until the 1800s. And the early Norse settlers, who were there for 300 years in Greenland, slowly abandoned it by the mid 1400s.

[The Norse stayed in Greenland for centuries. At the start of the 15th century, they disappeared with little trace. There are numerous possible reasons, including: a colder climate that made the island less habitable and conflict with the Inuit, who began to arrive in the areas that were populated by the Norse.

In 1721, Hans Egede, a Norwegian priest and missionary with support from the united Dano-Norwegian crown, reestablished contact with Greenland. A concern at the time was that the Norse settlers had missed the Reformation and were still Catholics. When Hans Egede arrived, however, he found only the Inuit, by then firmly established in most of Greenland, and he decided to focus his efforts on converting them to Christianity.

When the monarchy of Denmark and Norway broke apart in 1814, Denmark kept Greenland.]

2. Trump's rhetoric might actually encourage them to sell it.




They are not selling Greenland and we cant pay for it. 33T debt, remember? Or is that not an issue anymore?


Depends on price, payment options, terms, etc

We could very well just be giving them a deal on tariffs and long term military protection.

Why don't we let President Trump and VP Vance negotiate with the Danes before we freak out and give up…
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.

1. Technically Denmark did not get it until the 1800s. And the early Norse settlers, who were there for 300 years in Greenland, slowly abandoned it by the mid 1400s.

[The Norse stayed in Greenland for centuries. At the start of the 15th century, they disappeared with little trace. There are numerous possible reasons, including: a colder climate that made the island less habitable and conflict with the Inuit, who began to arrive in the areas that were populated by the Norse.

In 1721, Hans Egede, a Norwegian priest and missionary with support from the united Dano-Norwegian crown, reestablished contact with Greenland. A concern at the time was that the Norse settlers had missed the Reformation and were still Catholics. When Hans Egede arrived, however, he found only the Inuit, by then firmly established in most of Greenland, and he decided to focus his efforts on converting them to Christianity.

When the monarchy of Denmark and Norway broke apart in 1814, Denmark kept Greenland.]

2. Trump's rhetoric might actually encourage them to sell it.




They are not selling Greenland and we cant pay for it. 33T debt, remember? Or is that not an issue anymore?


Depends on price, payment options, terms, etc

We could very well just be giving them a deal on tariffs and long term military protection.

Why don't we let President Trump and VP Vance negotiate with the Danes before we freak out and give up…


More like an updated NATO plan for Arctic defense is what is on the table. They are not giving Greenland for tariff relief!

There is no freaking out, you guys are nuts if you think Greenland is becoming a state.
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.

1. Technically Denmark did not get it until the 1800s. And the early Norse settlers, who were there for 300 years in Greenland, slowly abandoned it by the mid 1400s.

[The Norse stayed in Greenland for centuries. At the start of the 15th century, they disappeared with little trace. There are numerous possible reasons, including: a colder climate that made the island less habitable and conflict with the Inuit, who began to arrive in the areas that were populated by the Norse.

In 1721, Hans Egede, a Norwegian priest and missionary with support from the united Dano-Norwegian crown, reestablished contact with Greenland. A concern at the time was that the Norse settlers had missed the Reformation and were still Catholics. When Hans Egede arrived, however, he found only the Inuit, by then firmly established in most of Greenland, and he decided to focus his efforts on converting them to Christianity.

When the monarchy of Denmark and Norway broke apart in 1814, Denmark kept Greenland.]

2. Trump's rhetoric might actually encourage them to sell it.




They are not selling Greenland and we cant pay for it. 33T debt, remember? Or is that not an issue anymore?


Depends on price, payment options, terms, etc

We could very well just be giving them a deal on tariffs and long term military protection.

Why don't we let President Trump and VP Vance negotiate with the Danes before we freak out and give up…


More like an updated NATO plan for Arctic defense is what is on the table. They are not giving Greenland for tariff relief!

There is no freaking out, you guys are nuts if you think Greenland is becoming a state.


And you are a little nuts to think anyone would think Greenland could be a State

It's got only about 55,000 people

It would be a territory if the U.S. government could convince Denmark to sell it.

[Northwest Ordinance: Set a benchmark of 60,000 free inhabitants for a territory to petition for statehood, a guideline used for many early states.
Modern Practice: Requires a territory's residents to petition, draft a constitution, have it approved by the people and Congress, and then be admitted by a congressional act and Presidential signature]

Or a Commonwealth a term used by two unincorporated territories of the United States like the Northern Mariana Islands

Or a sovereign nation in Free association with the USA. Like the "Compact of Free Association" we currently have with the small Republic of the Marshall Islands and a few other Pacific nations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association
BUDOS
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Agreed.
Why can't we collaborate with them and maintain a positive relationship like it appears we do militarily? We could work together on accessing their natural resources, especially their rare earth resources. Our technology and engineering expertise can make a major difference, while improving their standard of living and benefiting our participating industries and accessing a portion of those resources.
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The entire proposal to buy Greenland is ludicrous.

Especially since Trump is compulsively blathering about it publicly.

Danes now have no choice but to reject any offer.

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Unfortunately it's not the only issue when his blathering has been his own enemy.
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BUDOS said:

Unfortunately it's not the only issue when his blathering has been his own enemy.


Possibly so.

However Trump's net sheet of accomplishments is easily the best of any president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.

1. Technically Denmark did not get it until the 1800s. And the early Norse settlers, who were there for 300 years in Greenland, slowly abandoned it by the mid 1400s.

[The Norse stayed in Greenland for centuries. At the start of the 15th century, they disappeared with little trace. There are numerous possible reasons, including: a colder climate that made the island less habitable and conflict with the Inuit, who began to arrive in the areas that were populated by the Norse.

In 1721, Hans Egede, a Norwegian priest and missionary with support from the united Dano-Norwegian crown, reestablished contact with Greenland. A concern at the time was that the Norse settlers had missed the Reformation and were still Catholics. When Hans Egede arrived, however, he found only the Inuit, by then firmly established in most of Greenland, and he decided to focus his efforts on converting them to Christianity.

When the monarchy of Denmark and Norway broke apart in 1814, Denmark kept Greenland.]

2. Trump's rhetoric might actually encourage them to sell it.




They are not selling Greenland and we cant pay for it. 33T debt, remember? Or is that not an issue anymore?


Depends on price, payment options, terms, etc

We could very well just be giving them a deal on tariffs and long term military protection.

Why don't we let President Trump and VP Vance negotiate with the Danes before we freak out and give up…


More like an updated NATO plan for Arctic defense is what is on the table. They are not giving Greenland for tariff relief!

There is no freaking out, you guys are nuts if you think Greenland is becoming a state.


And you are a little nuts to think anyone would think Greenland could be a State

It's got only about 55,000 people

It would be a territory if the U.S. government could convince Denmark to sell it.

[Northwest Ordinance: Set a benchmark of 60,000 free inhabitants for a territory to petition for statehood, a guideline used for many early states.
Modern Practice: Requires a territory's residents to petition, draft a constitution, have it approved by the people and Congress, and then be admitted by a congressional act and Presidential signature]

Or a Commonwealth a term used by two unincorporated territories of the United States like the Northern Mariana Islands

Or a sovereign nation in Free association with the USA. Like the "Compact of Free Association" we currently have with the small Republic of the Marshall Islands and a few other Pacific nations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association


LOL, spot on, he thinks we think it'll be a state. That's funny.
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KaiBear said:

The entire proposal to buy Greenland is ludicrous.

Especially since Trump is compulsively blathering about it publicly.

Danes now have no choice but to reject any offer.




Sure, but Greenlanders are poor. Maybe buying isn't so far fetched, or at least paying for terms we like.

He makes noise to cause commotion and gather support. If he was quietly asking, would the Danes give as much? Maybe, maybe not. Likely not.
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FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

why aren't there any Danes there, then?
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.

1. Technically Denmark did not get it until the 1800s. And the early Norse settlers, who were there for 300 years in Greenland, slowly abandoned it by the mid 1400s.

[The Norse stayed in Greenland for centuries. At the start of the 15th century, they disappeared with little trace. There are numerous possible reasons, including: a colder climate that made the island less habitable and conflict with the Inuit, who began to arrive in the areas that were populated by the Norse.

In 1721, Hans Egede, a Norwegian priest and missionary with support from the united Dano-Norwegian crown, reestablished contact with Greenland. A concern at the time was that the Norse settlers had missed the Reformation and were still Catholics. When Hans Egede arrived, however, he found only the Inuit, by then firmly established in most of Greenland, and he decided to focus his efforts on converting them to Christianity.

When the monarchy of Denmark and Norway broke apart in 1814, Denmark kept Greenland.]

2. Trump's rhetoric might actually encourage them to sell it.




They are not selling Greenland and we cant pay for it. 33T debt, remember? Or is that not an issue anymore?


Depends on price, payment options, terms, etc

We could very well just be giving them a deal on tariffs and long term military protection.

Why don't we let President Trump and VP Vance negotiate with the Danes before we freak out and give up…

yeah, maybe we can put Greenland on our govt CC with a 10% interest rate!
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J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

they could be - and I think likely are - jjolllding out for a really sweet deal..........

- UF

D!






They have had it since 1100 AD. Various wars, invasions and threats, you think Trumps rhetoric is going to make them cave? They have said no when they were in worse positions. I see them making this a NATO issue before selling it to Trump.

1. Technically Denmark did not get it until the 1800s. And the early Norse settlers, who were there for 300 years in Greenland, slowly abandoned it by the mid 1400s.

[The Norse stayed in Greenland for centuries. At the start of the 15th century, they disappeared with little trace. There are numerous possible reasons, including: a colder climate that made the island less habitable and conflict with the Inuit, who began to arrive in the areas that were populated by the Norse.

In 1721, Hans Egede, a Norwegian priest and missionary with support from the united Dano-Norwegian crown, reestablished contact with Greenland. A concern at the time was that the Norse settlers had missed the Reformation and were still Catholics. When Hans Egede arrived, however, he found only the Inuit, by then firmly established in most of Greenland, and he decided to focus his efforts on converting them to Christianity.

When the monarchy of Denmark and Norway broke apart in 1814, Denmark kept Greenland.]

2. Trump's rhetoric might actually encourage them to sell it.




They are not selling Greenland and we cant pay for it. 33T debt, remember? Or is that not an issue anymore?


Depends on price, payment options, terms, etc

We could very well just be giving them a deal on tariffs and long term military protection.

Why don't we let President Trump and VP Vance negotiate with the Danes before we freak out and give up…

yeah, maybe we can put Greenland on our govt CC with a 10% interest rate!


You don't think an area the size of the Congo filled with mineral wealth is worth anything?

[Greenland is around 2m sq km (770,000 square miles) roughly the size of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Detailed mapping collaborations and explorations carried out over more than a century have uncovered evidence of important mineral resources in Greenland including rare earth elements and critical minerals used for green energy technologies, as well as suspected fossil fuel reserves…

Beyond mineral resources, scientists estimate that Greenland has enormous reserves of oil and natural gas. Since the 1970s, oil and gas companies have tried to find ancient reservoirs off the coast of Greenland….Greenland's continental shelf geology does show similarities to other fossil fuel sites in the Arctic.]

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250121
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

william said:

greenland / denmark is dummmmmmmmmmm..........

- UF*

D!

* the global diplomat.




Yeah, it haa only been Danish since 1100 AD.

Do you guys look at anything from the other sides point of view?

why aren't there any Danes there, then?


You play both sides against the middle constantly depending on your what you want. Stay focused on the audience, no one here has any influence. You are not running a Psyop. The Greenlanders are Danish citizens and have the same rights as Danes that live in Europe and are independent for governance.

They have a better deal than the US territories have.
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You didn't answer the question
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Oldbear83 said:

You didn't answer the question


They are all Danes there. That's what having Danish citizenship means. Just like Hawaiians or Texans are US citizens. The residents of Greenland are Danish by birth and law. It is Danish. Get it.
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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

You didn't answer the question


They are all Danes there. That's what having Danish citizenship means. Just like Hawaiians or Texans are US citizens. The residents of Greenland are Danish by birth and law. It is Danish. Get it.


Danes are in fact an ethnic group.

That is of course different than the modern concept of Citizenship within the modern Danish National State.

Ethnic Dane vs Danish by Citizenship.

Both can be true....and one can also not be an ethnic Dane and a citizen.

(same concept as ethnic Irish vs having Irish citizenship)

And one can be an ethnic Dane and not have citizenship or live in Denmark or its territory.

[Danes are an ethnic group native to Denmark, characterized by their shared ancestry and cultural heritage....with approximately 86% of Denmark's population identifying as such. The term "Danes" is derived from the Old Norse word "Danir," referring to the people living in modern-day Denmark. The Danes have a rich history, tracing their ancestry back to prehistoric Germanic tribes during the Viking Age]

Most Greenlanders are ethnic Inuit people...who have Danish citizenship.

Different from being ethnic Danes
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

You didn't answer the question


They are all Danes there. That's what having Danish citizenship means. Just like Hawaiians or Texans are US citizens. The residents of Greenland are Danish by birth and law. It is Danish. Get it.


Danes are in fact an ethnic group.

That is of course different than the modern concept of Citizenship within the modern Danish National State.

Ethnic Dane vs Danish by Citizenship.

Both can be true....and one can also not be an ethnic Dane and a citizen.

(same concept as ethnic Irish vs having Irish citizenship)

And one can be an ethnic Dane and not have citizenship or live in Denmark or its territory.

[Danes are an ethnic group native to Denmark, characterized by their shared ancestry and cultural heritage....with approximately 86% of Denmark's population identifying as such. The term "Danes" is derived from the Old Norse word "Danir," referring to the people living in modern-day Denmark. The Danes have a rich history, tracing their ancestry back to prehistoric Germanic tribes during the Viking Age]

Most Greenlanders are ethnic Inuit people...who have Danish citizenship.

Different from being ethnic Danes


So now only ethnic Danes count? The people of color there don't. Because there are only 7000 ethnic Danes (whites), we can invade?

Because Natives are not ethnic Danes it is ok to take their land? You really want to stick with this line of thought?

So how many White, European ethnic people need to be there to not invade?

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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

You didn't answer the question


They are all Danes there. That's what having Danish citizenship means. Just like Hawaiians or Texans are US citizens. The residents of Greenland are Danish by birth and law. It is Danish. Get it.


Danes are in fact an ethnic group.

That is of course different than the modern concept of Citizenship within the modern Danish National State.

Ethnic Dane vs Danish by Citizenship.

Both can be true....and one can also not be an ethnic Dane and a citizen.

(same concept as ethnic Irish vs having Irish citizenship)

And one can be an ethnic Dane and not have citizenship or live in Denmark or its territory.

[Danes are an ethnic group native to Denmark, characterized by their shared ancestry and cultural heritage....with approximately 86% of Denmark's population identifying as such. The term "Danes" is derived from the Old Norse word "Danir," referring to the people living in modern-day Denmark. The Danes have a rich history, tracing their ancestry back to prehistoric Germanic tribes during the Viking Age]

Most Greenlanders are ethnic Inuit people...who have Danish citizenship.

Different from being ethnic Danes


So now only ethnic Danes count? The people of color there don't. Because there are only 7000 ethnic Danes (whites), we can invade?

Because Natives are not ethnic Danes it is ok to take their land? You really want to stick with this line of thought?




No, just pointing out there is a difference.

And that the vast majority of Greenlanders (and voters there) are not ethnic Danes....but Greenland Inuit
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They all said they do not want to be American. We have the ability to put as many troops as we want by treaty (1951).

We need more bases, build them. Why is our President threatening an allie to take their land? Why are we forcing citizenship on people that dont want it? Puerto Rico would love to be a State.

We can put as much military there as we want. Lets built a base under the treaty we have.
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Redbrickbear said:




sums it up...............

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Redbrickbear said:

whiterock said:

fubar said:

KaiBear said:

fubar said:

KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you are wondering why Greenland matters. There's lots of reasons, here's just one example that shows you some of the reality of Russia's military assets relative to Greenland'.




Greenland does not matter enough to bully Denmark.

Nor does Greenland matter enough to blow up NATO.

This whole conversation is insane. And not about "national security."


Agreed

Greenland is no reason to blow up NATO.

Paying a disproportionate share to defend Western Europe for over 70 years ……is a very valid reason to blow up NATO.



Whatever

Europe cannot afford to let us blow up Nato, and will cut deals, which of course is why Trump is yanking their chain.



Exactly,

This is NOT about "blowing up NATO"...its about putting pressure on Demark to make a real estate transaction


Sure they can. It's not ideal but like life, sometimes it's better to go alone than to have the person walking with you sabotaging you ever step of the way.

You've walked away from hot crazy girls. It's like that.
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ofc, who are we kidding:



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