whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
Redbrickbear said:
J.R. said:
This will NEVER happen, NEVER. Sheep R's would buck 1 think fat boy proposed.
Not only will this not happen, but it is causing harm to our alliances and international relationships.
The question is what does he really want? If it is the security and mineral rights that is doable without "taking" Greenland and totally destroying the one alliance that has pretty much kept us out of war in Europe for 70 years.
If it is getting in the History books like Jefferson and the Louisiana Purchase or Seward's Alaska deal, that is more problematic. We would have to invade, that would end NATO. It would basically make us the same as Russia and China taking what we want or believe is ours.
unerring bad analysis.
the problem is that our alliance is harming itself by not adequately addressing our valid concerns (feckless Danish administration of Greenland). Move Greenland to USA responsibility and Nato is strengthened, not harmed.
Whatever shortcomings in Defense are fixable within existing treaties and alliances we do not have to take it from an ally. So, that is not the reason.
There is something else driving this and it is not security.
Bad analysis? Bad analysis is that the US taking Greenland is going to strengthen NATO! What color is the sky in your world? Talk about delusional. You have a better chance of it prompting a combined European Armed Forces to go with the EU market than NATO staying together with the US happily with Greenland.
Trump may be the catalyst for a peer size competitor in Europe.
Like I said. You are completely out of your depth here.
Greenland is on a pathway to independence, at which point it will be available to the highest bidder, because it is most certainly not a viable economic unit. Trump is merely trying to secure it before the bidding starts. That is eminently wise.
We made a mistake in giving it back to Denmark after WWII.
Denmark made a mistake putting Greenland on a pathway to independence.
Trump is fixing both problems.
Ok, let's say that is true and Denmark grants their Independence in the next 10 years, ballpark.
I don't think your strategy is having the effect you think. Greenland AND Denmark have gone from being staunch US allies and friends to hating us. As we, or I, have tried to discuss is once again with this group, it is not the what or the why, it is the how. Everything they are touching that SHOULD be huge positives are turning into negatives because of the heavy handed, authoritarian tactics. You won't discuss it, only defend it or deny it.
The one thing both Greenland AND Denmark AND the EU now agree on is not to letting the US and Trump have Greenland. Bravo, quite the achievement to get Greenland/Denmark and the EU agreeing.
The same as Immigration, they are turning positives to negatives. People, all people, will push back on heavy handed tactics. Or, you are going to have to break them. Is that where we are? We want to break people physically, financially or spiritually to get them to comply?
