* * Epstein Files Being Released in the Next 10 Days

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boognish_bear said:



Trump says it's fake and he is going to sue
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Jack Bauer
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"Are we still talking about Epstein....we should be talking about Shane Gillis at the ESPYs"
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Jack Bauer said:

"Are we still talking about Epstein....we should be talking about Shane Gillis at the ESPYs"


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Trump being asked about Epstein..

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ron.reagan said:

….the letter makes it sound like Trump was molesting Epstein


We need the files released to know the truth….
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Yesterday she said Powell was getting fired

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So repubs lose the docs from her desk and now jd is threatening to sue the WSJ .

I used to laugh at banana republic governments. America is crumbling.
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Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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Assassin said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

TexasScientist said:

KaiBear said:

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1713 Baylor said:

He's on the list. All you guys who are trial lawyers read this the same way. The opposition hides their bad documents until you pry them out of their cold dead fingers. Stupid strategy because it isolates and emphasizes the badness of the documents and signals that the opposition can't stand the thought of them being exposed, but it happened dozens of times over a 40 year career.

None of this **** is making the light of day because Donald John Trump's name is at the top of the Epstein list. Hell, he probably had a frequent flier account.


He and Epstein were pals for years. Trump even boasted in admiration about how Epstein loved young girls. Of course Trump's name is on the list (if there still is a list).


If the client list exclusively implicates Trump and Republicans…….why didn't the Biden administration release the information ?

They had years to do so, yet did nothing .

Really believe Joe Biden wanted to protect Trump ?

No, but Biden would protect Ds. If there is a list I doubt it is exclusive to the Rs - cuts both ways. Trump and his allies made such a big deal about it, they need to release what they have.


Then you should be just as critical of Biden's coverup.

I am if there is a Biden coverup. You know, this all got started during the first Trump administration. Personally, I think it is more conspiracy theory than real. Most objective reporting says there is no client list going back to the beginning. Cash Patel, Bogino, Laura Ingram, Pam Bondi, Trump, et al hyped this up. They've exposed themselves to having to admit the truth. That said, if the Justice Department knows who participated in activities with minors, they need to disclose it and/or bring charges (if limitations haven't already run). Prince Andrew for instance, they may be reluctant to disclose what they have on him for obvious reasons, but that doesn't excuse nondisclosure in my opinion. Let the chips fall.

Why do you think that Biden didnt expose it, if as you say, folks participated in activities with minors? If there was never a list, why do you care?

LOL! So many of yo give ole Biden waaaaayyyyyyyyyyy too much credit. The corrupt , crotchety S O B was able to find the bathroom in the White House by himself on a good day. The last year, he probably had no clue who Epstein even was.

You do realize that BIden was NEVER in it. Nobody on either side of the aisle believes that he was. It was always about Peloisi and Schumer and whoever else was jerking America around. Why would this be any different?

I wasn't insinuating Biden was involved with Epstein in any way. I don't think he was. People ask why Biden didn't get involved and release the list/ documents. What I was saying was that Biden did not have the ability to wipe his own ass for about his last two years in office. His brain and ability to reason were gone.

This whole Epstein thing has just gotten bizarre. I don't know what or who to believe at this point. It is not a partisan issue either. I think many rich and powerful elites have made this go away. Based on Trump's recent about face, I think he was more involved than we were led to believe. Just my opinion.
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Stefano DiMera
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Trump and Epstein were having some Diddy -like Freak Off parties..

Probably lovers...

Get your popcorn.
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boognish_bear said:

Is this supposed to be the smoking gun? Not much here. Hard to picture Donald sitting down and drawing stuff with markers and typing out a conversation for a card.






The grift is gonna get ya!

https://historical.ha.com/itm/political/small-paper-1896-present-/donald-j-trump-a-beautiful-original-sketch-of-the-new-york-city-skyline-signed-and-dated-2004/a/6185-43203.s

Looks like he was actually very into doodling in 2004, when Epstein turned 50
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The card is funny, but not really meaningful.

What Sen. Wyden released yesterday is way more troubling.

If banks like JPMorgan were issuing SARs, and the feds were looking the other way. that's not good. And frankly probably implicates several administrations.

Sen. Wyden says Trump admin sitting on Epstein bank records

By the way, before you say criminal enterprises wouldn't use wire transfers, having been involved in all types of fraud and criminal cases, yes they do. Especially before crypto.
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Trump filed suit and looks like he is trying to get his old friend, Eileen Canon.

Now I am thinking the WSJ letter is a set up. WSJ folds quickly and is used as evidence that Epstein is a hoax.

The docket ion Pacer is also extremely weird. All kinds of missing info and no complaint. Having filed maybe 200 complaints on this system, that doesn't make sense,
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GoodOleBaylorLine said:

Trump filed suit and looks like he is trying to get his old friend, Eileen Canon.

Now I am thinking the WSJ letter is a set up. WSJ folds quickly and is used as evidence that Epstein is a hoax.


They had to know a lawsuit would be coming. I don't know why they would risk another hit to their reputation if this story turns out to be flimsy.
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"We had bad info"
"We support our reporting, but settling to avoid distractions/for the good of the country"

And if Murdoch is implicated here, he'd burn WSJ to the ground and piss on the ashes if that's what it took to turn down the heat.
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GoodOleBaylorLine said:

"We had bad info"
"We support our reporting, but settling to avoid distractions/for the good of the country"

And if Murdoch is implicated here, he'd burn WSJ to the ground and piss on the ashes if that's what it took to turn down the heat.

Wow
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boognish_bear said:





If I'm Rup, I counter sue for $20B. Press cannot be intimidated.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

boognish_bear said:



If I'm Rup, I counter sue for $20B.

What would he countersue for? Trump didnt post lies about him.
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Assassin said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

boognish_bear said:



If I'm Rup, I counter sue for $20B.

What would he countersue for? Trump didnt post lies about him.


I'm no lawyer.

1. Doesn't seem like you need a reason per the initial suit.
2. Intimidation comes to mind. If the story is properly sourced and true, slander is in play.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Assassin said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

boognish_bear said:



If I'm Rup, I counter sue for $20B.

What would he countersue for? Trump didnt post lies about him.


I'm no lawyer.

1. Doesn't seem like you need a reason per the initial suit.
2. Intimidation comes to mind. If the story is properly sourced and true, slander is in play.

Doesnt appear that it is. Trump was obviously slandered when that WSJ article came out, assuming what he says is true. Right now it appears that it is. I don't think you can countersue just for the hell of it, but you would have to ask the slander lawyers here. I did stay at a Holiday Inn back in the 90s
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If Trump's allegations are correct, the WSJ is guilty of the same kind of slander as Stephanopoulos resulting in ABC paying him $15 million.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Assassin said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

boognish_bear said:



If I'm Rup, I counter sue for $20B.

What would he countersue for? Trump didnt post lies about him.


I'm no lawyer.

1. Doesn't seem like you need a reason per the initial suit.
2. Intimidation comes to mind. If the story is properly sourced and true, slander is in play.

I don't see any grounds for a countersuit. Best they could probably do is seek fees and costs based on a frivolous lawsuit. Of course, if Trump goes full on Trump and accuses defendants of far worse than is in the complaint, then all bets are off . . . .
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Mitch Blood Green said:

boognish_bear said:





Press cannot be intimidated.


Of course they can

The press is a money making racket number 1

And an ideological hobby horse for those in power number 2

They are not a priestly class.


PS

I dont think he should sue
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You have to be careful with what to trust with video and audio now… but this does come across like he's saying his name is in there... but it was put in there as a hoax or something.

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Governmental Self-Preservation: Why We'll Never See The Real Epstein List

To understand the chaos surrounding the Epstein issue we have to first recognize that it's the product of an inherent division within the MAGA movement that needs to be addressed. The campaign to support Trump is built on two groups that intersect but don't always agree:

1) Average Republicans (and some moderates) who are most concerned with defeating the agenda of leftists and keeping woke activists out of government power.

2) Hardcore conservatives and libertarians from the "conspiracy" end of the movement who are most concerned with defeating the globalist cabal.

"The country has at least been tolerable under Trump No more "transing" or grooming of children in schools. No more pride month. No more pandering to DEI. No more open borders. No more federal accusations of conservatives being "terrorists" and a "danger to democracy". If you can't at least give some credit for these changes then you're not a serious person and I have no time for you.

That said, in the end the threat of the political left pales in comparison to the threat presented by the globalists. These are people with a luciferian ideology of self worship and moral relativism and they are in positions of immense power (at least in financial terms). Though their political reputation in the US is faltering, they still have near total control of the narratives in Europe, Australia and Canada, not to mention invasive financial influence throughout most of the world.

Look at it this way: Have you ever heard of a globalist being punished or arrested for their attempts to manipulate and corrupt the social and governmental institutions of any given nation? How many globalist NGOs have been shut down in recent memory? Isn't the US still pouring tax dollars into globalist institutions like the IMF, BIS (through the Federal Reserve), World Bank, etc.?

Political factions may battle for the minds of the masses and many times these fights are very real, but the globalists always remain in the background watching and waiting for another chance to push civilization further towards their dystopian vision. They don't care what happens politically as long as their money and influence remain intact. No one ever aims their cannons at the whispering men lurking behind the curtain.
For conservative patriots, dealing with the evils of the political left serves the immediate purpose of treating symptoms, but not the disease."

Trump has openly admonished the globalists on many occasions and he ran his 2016 and 2024 campaigns on reversing the economic damage they have done. Defeating globalism was a big part of his election platform, it's undeniable. The problem is, he has consistently backed away from any direct prosecution or punishment of said devils.

Trump stated succinctly in 2024 that he would release the Epstein list, and he now refuses. The haphazard dismissal of the Epstein files despite the embarrassing controversy is a reality check for the conspiracy subset. For the anti-globalist portion of MAGA, especially libertarians and conservative Christians, you have been given notice; Trump is not your gladiator or your savior. He's not going to fulfill your dreams of government reform, nor is he going to bring the hammer down on the elites.

I warned back in May in my article 'The Trump Administration's Biggest Wins And Biggest Fails So Far' that his handling of the Epstein case was an epic blunder. I noted:

"All we want is a concise list of who engaged with Epstein and his "services". These people need to be called out and brought to justice NOW. If they are in government they need to be removed ASAP. There is no room for pedos in American leadership anymore.

I can understand certain obstacles, such as keeping victims protected. An outright dump of info would be reckless, not to mention illegal. That said, the feds have had years to go over this evidence. I suspect that the White House is stalling because the client list could destroy a large portion of the government. The number of leaders exposed must be extensive enough that a release of the list would cripple the system. It's the only explanation that makes sense for why they continue to keep the American people waiting…

For those seeking answers as to why Trump is running away from the Epstein client list like it's a nuclear bomb, it's because it IS a nuclear bomb. I continue to hold that the list is pure poison for the existing government and that its release would be so detrimental it would trigger the collapse of the US system and create a cataclysmic domino effect around the world.

It's so dangerous, in fact, that Trump is now asserting it "doesn't exist" or that it's a "Democrat conspiracy" with files manipulated by Democrats before Biden left office. There's no explanation as to what Trump means by this other than he seems to be saying the existing evidence is fabricated.

Epstein was arrested for child trafficking. He conveniently died "by suicide" before going to trial (psychopathic personalities like Epstein rarely kill themselves) nullifying any court discovery and public release of his files. Numerous victims have come forward, but we're supposed to believe that there were no clients? Or, that Epstein never kept a list of those clients? It's pure stupidity.

The Trump Administration admits to obtaining an endless array of videos featuring minor victims. The question is simple: WHO is in those videos abusing those young girls (or boys)? It's not that difficult to understand WE WANT THE NAMES, and we're never going to stop demanding those names.

But let's not fool ourselves, we're not going to get our hands on the real, unredacted list. Why? Because some of the most powerful people in the world are on that register and pedophilia is still an unforgivable sin in the eyes of the west. Proof of a mass conspiracy of wealthy pedos and political diddlers is one of the few things that would inspire the public to actually pick up torches and pitchforks and burn Washington DC to the ground."

Trump is certainly pulling America back from leftist extremism (that's a good thing), but he has no intention of going to war with the globalists (that's a bad thing). As I have noted over and over again, if liberty proponents want to get rid of the cabal they will have to stop waiting for political solutions that will never materialize. The war to unseat the globalists will not be fought by MAGA. The eternal mandate of the political edifice is self preservation, and Trump is part of that edifice.
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boognish_bear said:

You have to be careful with what to trust with video and audio now… but this does come across like he's saying his name is in there... but it was put in there as a hoax or something.



Anything with Trump in there is fake.

This is going to be a problem for him. Too many pictures of him and Epstein.
 
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