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I provided examples of Trump successes. Only Leftists are angry with a closed border, deportations of illegals, lower inflation, or other signs of an improving economy.

The Trump economy is not a train wreck nor is the border.

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J.R. said:

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this is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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you need to stop reverting to Biden to cover Trump's arse. Biden was a horrible president, but he hasn't been president in over 6 months. This is 100% trump, period. He owns it all.

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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o this pointTrump is aesilythis is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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With Trump it is not hard to find fodder to go after, everything the guy ever touches ends up a trainwreck.

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LOL

Up to this point Trump is easily the most effective president in US history.

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Really? We are 5 months in and he is now the most effective President? Damn. Maybe we should wait a year or God Forbid 2 to see how it turns out?

Look at what I said, "ends up". We are not there yet. He was great in 2016 and the Capital ended up being stormed. Atlantic City was saved until it wasn't. His long list of failed companies were successful and ended up in either court or out of business. His leadership of the USFL was great until he led them to the fall to compete with the NFL. The guy has a LONG track record of great starts, horrific finishes.

Let's let it play out before giving him "most effective" award...

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Clearly posted....'Up to this point'.


Are you ok ?

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has ANY president ever landed +$20t in new foreign investment in less than six months? that's like 70% of annual GDP.

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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this is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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JR is our court jester. He says he hates the way Trump acts, then acts just like him.

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Hey Clown, firstly you don't me in the slightest. Let me give you just few quick facts to dispel your slander,,, I don't lie, I'm not a Bully, I haven't been impeached twice for crimes, I'm not on my 3rd wife, I'm not a grifter, I shoot straight with the people I do business with, I don't diddle little girls. just a few off the top.

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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this is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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JR is our court jester. He says he hates the way Trump acts, then acts just like him.

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Hey Clown, firstly you don't me in the slightest. Let me give you just few quick facts to dispel your slander,,, I don't lie, I'm not a Bully, I haven't been impeached twice for crimes, I'm not on my 3rd wife, I'm not a grifter, I shoot straight with the people I do business with, I don't diddle little girls. just a few off the top.

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I'd like to believe all that is true and more, but frankly, your posts here do not inspire confidence. I know other posters have vouched for your business accomplishments, but It's quite hard to reconcile that with the way you act here. Perhaps you are just trolling. If so, you do not do it terribly well, so I'd advise sticking to business. You really suck at the politics thing. I mean, you literally are a coarser version of what you claim to detest.

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Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre on Ghislaine Maxwell: “She is a monster. She’s worse than Epstein. She was vicious. She was evil. I know that woman.” pic.twitter.com/VfFBtSvwfR

— Marco Foster (@MarcoFoster_) July 27, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre on Ghislaine Maxwell: “She is a monster. She’s worse than Epstein. She was vicious. She was evil. I know that woman.” pic.twitter.com/VfFBtSvwfR

— Marco Foster (@MarcoFoster_) July 27, 2025

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KaiBear said:

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With all the recent noise about the Epstein files; the media has forgotten about Trumps promises to release all the details regarding the Robert Kennedy assassination and the Martin Luther King assassination.


And the truth about these killings should be almost as earth shattering.

Trump needs to get off his ass and do what he promised.

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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this is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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JR is our court jester. He says he hates the way Trump acts, then acts just like him.

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Hey Clown, firstly you don't me in the slightest. Let me give you just few quick facts to dispel your slander,,, I don't lie, I'm not a Bully, I haven't been impeached twice for crimes, I'm not on my 3rd wife, I'm not a grifter, I shoot straight with the people I do business with, I don't diddle little girls. just a few off the top.

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I'd like to believe all that is true and more, but frankly, your posts here do not inspire confidence. I know other posters have vouched for your business accomplishments, but It's quite hard to reconcile that with the way you act here. Perhaps you are just trolling. If so, you do not do it terribly well, so I'd advise sticking to business. You really suck at the politics thing. I mean, you literally are a coarser version of what you claim to detest.

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KaiBear said:

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With all the recent noise about the Epstein files; the media has forgotten about Trumps promises to release all the details regarding the Robert Kennedy assassination and the Martin Luther King assassination.


And the truth about these killings should be almost as earth shattering.

Trump needs to get off his ass and do what he promised.

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Trump says whatever his supporters want to hear then does whatever he wants. His followers believe anything he says. He blames the dems. One day he said the files don't exist. The next day he says they were created by Obama. Gulp

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Together, the EU and the US are a market of 800 million people.
 
And nearly 44 percent of global GDP.

It’s the biggest trade deal ever ↓ https://t.co/rG3cHebXEk

— Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) July 27, 2025

whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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J.R. said:

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o this pointTrump is aesilythis is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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With Trump it is not hard to find fodder to go after, everything the guy ever touches ends up a trainwreck.

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LOL

Up to this point Trump is easily the most effective president in US history.

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Really? We are 5 months in and he is now the most effective President? Damn. Maybe we should wait a year or God Forbid 2 to see how it turns out?

Look at what I said, "ends up". We are not there yet. He was great in 2016 and the Capital ended up being stormed. Atlantic City was saved until it wasn't. His long list of failed companies were successful and ended up in either court or out of business. His leadership of the USFL was great until he led them to the fall to compete with the NFL. The guy has a LONG track record of great starts, horrific finishes.

Let's let it play out before giving him "most effective" award...

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Clearly posted....'Up to this point'.


Are you ok ?

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has ANY president ever landed +$20t in new foreign investment in less than six months? that's like 70% of annual GDP.

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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o this pointTrump is aesilythis is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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With Trump it is not hard to find fodder to go after, everything the guy ever touches ends up a trainwreck.

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LOL

Up to this point Trump is easily the most effective president in US history.

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Really? We are 5 months in and he is now the most effective President? Damn. Maybe we should wait a year or God Forbid 2 to see how it turns out?

Look at what I said, "ends up". We are not there yet. He was great in 2016 and the Capital ended up being stormed. Atlantic City was saved until it wasn't. His long list of failed companies were successful and ended up in either court or out of business. His leadership of the USFL was great until he led them to the fall to compete with the NFL. The guy has a LONG track record of great starts, horrific finishes.

Let's let it play out before giving him "most effective" award...

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Clearly posted....'Up to this point'.


Are you ok ?

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has ANY president ever landed +$20t in new foreign investment in less than six months? that's like 70% of annual GDP.

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$2t or $20t?

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Osodecentx said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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J.R. said:

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o this pointTrump is aesilythis is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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With Trump it is not hard to find fodder to go after, everything the guy ever touches ends up a trainwreck.

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LOL

Up to this point Trump is easily the most effective president in US history.

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Really? We are 5 months in and he is now the most effective President? Damn. Maybe we should wait a year or God Forbid 2 to see how it turns out?

Look at what I said, "ends up". We are not there yet. He was great in 2016 and the Capital ended up being stormed. Atlantic City was saved until it wasn't. His long list of failed companies were successful and ended up in either court or out of business. His leadership of the USFL was great until he led them to the fall to compete with the NFL. The guy has a LONG track record of great starts, horrific finishes.

Let's let it play out before giving him "most effective" award...

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Clearly posted....'Up to this point'.


Are you ok ?

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has ANY president ever landed +$20t in new foreign investment in less than six months? that's like 70% of annual GDP.

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$2t or $20t?

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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oops he was lying.


https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/trumps-growing-exaggeration-of-u-s-investments/

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FLBear5630 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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oops he was lying.


https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/trumps-growing-exaggeration-of-u-s-investments/

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Come on, you know no one actually meant trillions of dollars. You are being unreasonable, now.

Trump is the most effective President in the 250 years of the US existence. No body has ever seen anything like this. Don't go by what actually happens, DOGE is saving us trillions and we trillions of new investment. With all these savings , tariff money and investment next budget will be balanced and deficit coming down, right?

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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oops he was lying.


https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/trumps-growing-exaggeration-of-u-s-investments/

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Come on, you know no one actually meant trillions of dollars. You are being unreasonable, now.

Trump is the most effective President in the 250 years of the US existence. No body has ever seen anything like this. Don't go by what actually happens, DOGE is saving us trillions and we trillions of new investment. With all these savings , tariff money and investment next budget will be balanced and deficit coming down, right?

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You are right. A man cant get info from the white house any more. Its no better now than a circus poster. Wasnt long ago it was fact filled
Thsnks for correcting me
The 27t came directly from the white page with big
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP on the front page.

Here it is. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/100-days-of-investment-5-trillion-in-new-investment-fuels-americas-future/

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whiterock said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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oops he was lying.


https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/trumps-growing-exaggeration-of-u-s-investments/

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Come on, you know no one actually meant trillions of dollars. You are being unreasonable, now.

Trump is the most effective President in the 250 years of the US existence. No body has ever seen anything like this. Don't go by what actually happens, DOGE is saving us trillions and we trillions of new investment. With all these savings , tariff money and investment next budget will be balanced and deficit coming down, right?

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You are right. A man cant get info from the white house any more. Its no better now than a circus poster. Wasnt long ago it was fact filled
Thsnks for correcting me
The 27t came directly from the white page with big
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP on the front page.

Here it is. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/100-days-of-investment-5-trillion-in-new-investment-fuels-americas-future/

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That's $9T as of April. It's more than 2x that now that the EU deal is done.

Whatever else can be said about Trump, he does have a knack for inspiring all these companies and countries (who we are told quietly hate him, as all normal people do) to line up to make public announcements of outlandish nonsensical investments. Do they do that to make watch the guy smile? Are they just pandering to Maga-land? Inquiring minds want to know.

C + I + G +/- T = GDP. The "I" part is investment. It typically runs in the 20% range. So on a nominal GDP of $30T, I would be approx $6B. The guy has as much as 4.5x that pledged by countries & corporations. Is it really your position that all $27T is smoke & mirrors & none of it will ever happen? How much of it has to happen for our economy to benefit?

Be specific please.

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whiterock said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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oops he was lying.


https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/trumps-growing-exaggeration-of-u-s-investments/

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Come on, you know no one actually meant trillions of dollars. You are being unreasonable, now.

Trump is the most effective President in the 250 years of the US existence. No body has ever seen anything like this. Don't go by what actually happens, DOGE is saving us trillions and we trillions of new investment. With all these savings , tariff money and investment next budget will be balanced and deficit coming down, right?

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You are right. A man cant get info from the white house any more. Its no better now than a circus poster. Wasnt long ago it was fact filled
Thsnks for correcting me
The 27t came directly from the white page with big
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP on the front page.

Here it is. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/100-days-of-investment-5-trillion-in-new-investment-fuels-americas-future/

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That's $9T as of April. It's more than 2x that now that the EU deal is done.

Whatever else can be said about Trump, he does have a knack for inspiring all these companies and countries (who we are told quietly hate him, as all normal people do) to line up to make public announcements of outlandish nonsensical investments. Do they do that to make watch the guy smile? Are they just pandering to Maga-land? Inquiring minds want to know.

C + I + G +/- T = GDP. The "I" part is investment. It typically runs in the 20% range. So on a nominal GDP of $30T, I would be approx $6B. The guy has as much as 4.5x that pledged by countries & corporations. Is it really your position that all $27T is smoke & mirrors & none of it will ever happen? How much of it has to happen for our economy to benefit?

Be specific please.

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whiterock said:

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J.R. said:

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whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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this is a cover up of the highest order. This has the potential to bring down. fat boy and I sure hope so. Need to get rid of Pole Dancing AG too. She is a liar. Trump the diddler. lol

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Of course you ignore the obvious fact that if such Trump damning intel existed in the Epstein files……Biden would have certainly used it in the 2024 election.

As Biden had years to evaluate every scrap of information in those files.

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JR is our court jester. He says he hates the way Trump acts, then acts just like him.

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Hey Clown, firstly you don't me in the slightest. Let me give you just few quick facts to dispel your slander,,, I don't lie, I'm not a Bully, I haven't been impeached twice for crimes, I'm not on my 3rd wife, I'm not a grifter, I shoot straight with the people I do business with, I don't diddle little girls. just a few off the top.

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I'd like to believe all that is true and more, but frankly, your posts here do not inspire confidence. I know other posters have vouched for your business accomplishments, but It's quite hard to reconcile that with the way you act here. Perhaps you are just trolling. If so, you do not do it terribly well, so I'd advise sticking to business. You really suck at the politics thing. I mean, you literally are a coarser version of what you claim to detest.

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The U.S. Supreme Court should hear Ghislaine Maxwell's appeal of her 2021 sex trafficking conviction because the government has an "obligation to honor" a non-prosecution agreement with Jeffrey Epstein that inoculated Maxwell from any criminal charges, her lawyers argued in a brief to the Supreme Court Monday.

"Plea and non-prosecution agreements resolve nearly every federal case. They routinely include promises that extend to othersco-conspirators, family members, potential witnesses. If those promises mean different things in different parts of the country, then trust in our system collapses," the brief said.


Federal prosecutors have argued that the non-prosecution agreement applied only in Florida and did not bind New York, where charges against him, and subsequently Maxwell, were brought.

MORE: Ghislaine Maxwell received limited immunity during meetings with deputy attorney general: Sources
Maxwell's attorneys argued the terms of the NPA Epstein signed were unqualified.

"It is not geographically limited to the Southern District of Florida, it is not conditioned on the co-conspirators being known by the government at the time, it does not depend on what any particular government attorney may have had in his or her head about who might be a co-conspirator, and it contains no other caveat or exception. This should be the end of the discussion," the defense brief said.

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Maxwell is making a play at being released. She likely won't get it from the Supreme Court, but it gives Trump an excuse to pardon her.

Are we all about to watch Maxwell exonerate Trump, then get pardoned? Im not sure i have enough popcorn.

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The U.S. Supreme Court should hear Ghislaine Maxwell's appeal of her 2021 sex trafficking conviction because the government has an "obligation to honor" a non-prosecution agreement with Jeffrey Epstein that inoculated Maxwell from any criminal charges, her lawyers argued in a brief to the Supreme Court Monday.

"Plea and non-prosecution agreements resolve nearly every federal case. They routinely include promises that extend to othersco-conspirators, family members, potential witnesses. If those promises mean different things in different parts of the country, then trust in our system collapses," the brief said.


Federal prosecutors have argued that the non-prosecution agreement applied only in Florida and did not bind New York, where charges against him, and subsequently Maxwell, were brought.

MORE: Ghislaine Maxwell received limited immunity during meetings with deputy attorney general: Sources
Maxwell's attorneys argued the terms of the NPA Epstein signed were unqualified.

"It is not geographically limited to the Southern District of Florida, it is not conditioned on the co-conspirators being known by the government at the time, it does not depend on what any particular government attorney may have had in his or her head about who might be a co-conspirator, and it contains no other caveat or exception. This should be the end of the discussion," the defense brief said.

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https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/ghislaine-maxwell-makes-pitch-supreme-court/story?id=124144128

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BREAKING: Bill Clinton went to Epstein’s island 28 times, per POTUS.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 28, 2025

BREAKING: Sen. Dick Durbin is calling for the release of recordings between Ghislaine Maxwell and the DOJ.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 28, 2025

Odds of Maxwell being released from Custody this year are 18%https://t.co/AxZbCieT0O

— NewsWire (@NewsWire_US) July 28, 2025

President Trump on his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein: "That's such old history. It's very easy to explain, but I don't want to waste your time." pic.twitter.com/bCQqlkK7gB

— CSPAN (@cspan) July 28, 2025

BREAKING: Speaker Mike Johnson rejects the idea of pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell, stating that she deserves life in prison.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 28, 2025

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whiterock said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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oops he was lying.


https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/trumps-growing-exaggeration-of-u-s-investments/

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Come on, you know no one actually meant trillions of dollars. You are being unreasonable, now.

Trump is the most effective President in the 250 years of the US existence. No body has ever seen anything like this. Don't go by what actually happens, DOGE is saving us trillions and we trillions of new investment. With all these savings , tariff money and investment next budget will be balanced and deficit coming down, right?

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You are right. A man cant get info from the white house any more. Its no better now than a circus poster. Wasnt long ago it was fact filled
Thsnks for correcting me
The 27t came directly from the white page with big
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP on the front page.

Here it is. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/100-days-of-investment-5-trillion-in-new-investment-fuels-americas-future/

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That's $9T as of April. It's more than 2x that now that the EU deal is done.

Whatever else can be said about Trump, he does have a knack for inspiring all these companies and countries (who we are told quietly hate him, as all normal people do) to line up to make public announcements of outlandish nonsensical investments. Do they do that to make watch the guy smile? Are they just pandering to Maga-land? Inquiring minds want to know.

C + I + G +/- T = GDP. The "I" part is investment. It typically runs in the 20% range. So on a nominal GDP of $30T, I would be approx $6B. The guy has as much as 4.5x that pledged by countries & corporations. Is it really your position that all $27T is smoke & mirrors & none of it will ever happen? How much of it has to happen for our economy to benefit?

Be specific please.

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He has no position other than what CNN/ABC/NBC told him this morning

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REPORTER: Doesn't the AG have to tell you if your name is in the Epstein files?

TRUMP: Well, I haven't been overly interested in it. It's a hoax that's been built up way beyond proportion. Those files were run by the worst scum on earth -- Comey, Garland, Biden. They can easily… pic.twitter.com/zh6joLKh0r

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 28, 2025

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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oops he was lying.


https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/trumps-growing-exaggeration-of-u-s-investments/

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Come on, you know no one actually meant trillions of dollars. You are being unreasonable, now.

Trump is the most effective President in the 250 years of the US existence. No body has ever seen anything like this. Don't go by what actually happens, DOGE is saving us trillions and we trillions of new investment. With all these savings , tariff money and investment next budget will be balanced and deficit coming down, right?

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You are right. A man cant get info from the white house any more. Its no better now than a circus poster. Wasnt long ago it was fact filled
Thsnks for correcting me
The 27t came directly from the white page with big
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP on the front page.

Here it is. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/100-days-of-investment-5-trillion-in-new-investment-fuels-americas-future/

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That's $9T as of April. It's more than 2x that now that the EU deal is done.

Whatever else can be said about Trump, he does have a knack for inspiring all these companies and countries (who we are told quietly hate him, as all normal people do) to line up to make public announcements of outlandish nonsensical investments. Do they do that to make watch the guy smile? Are they just pandering to Maga-land? Inquiring minds want to know.

C + I + G +/- T = GDP. The "I" part is investment. It typically runs in the 20% range. So on a nominal GDP of $30T, I would be approx $6B. The guy has as much as 4.5x that pledged by countries & corporations. Is it really your position that all $27T is smoke & mirrors & none of it will ever happen? How much of it has to happen for our economy to benefit?

Be specific please.

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Let's keep it simple and measurable.

How much did the US owe when Donald took office?
How much will the US owe when his FY 26 budget is approved or reconciled, because we can't approve a budget anymore.

Will the deficit be higher or lower?

Will the budget be balanced or lower?


Simple measurables. All the DOGE tweets, all the "commitments" to invest, all the monthly revenue projections (didn't know that was a thing usually we talk quarterly or Fiscal Year, but...) and all the rhetoric mean nothing if the numbers don't move.

So, based on where we are what are the numbers? No macro level discussions, no theory, or no lectures on how we don't understand big boy world... WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS ON THE LEDGER SHEET SHOWING?

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boognish_bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Maxwell is making a play at being released. She likely won't get it from the Supreme Court, but it gives Trump an excuse to pardon her.

Are we all about to watch Maxwell exonerate Trump, then get pardoned? Im not sure i have enough popcorn.

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The U.S. Supreme Court should hear Ghislaine Maxwell's appeal of her 2021 sex trafficking conviction because the government has an "obligation to honor" a non-prosecution agreement with Jeffrey Epstein that inoculated Maxwell from any criminal charges, her lawyers argued in a brief to the Supreme Court Monday.

"Plea and non-prosecution agreements resolve nearly every federal case. They routinely include promises that extend to othersco-conspirators, family members, potential witnesses. If those promises mean different things in different parts of the country, then trust in our system collapses," the brief said.


Federal prosecutors have argued that the non-prosecution agreement applied only in Florida and did not bind New York, where charges against him, and subsequently Maxwell, were brought.

MORE: Ghislaine Maxwell received limited immunity during meetings with deputy attorney general: Sources
Maxwell's attorneys argued the terms of the NPA Epstein signed were unqualified.

"It is not geographically limited to the Southern District of Florida, it is not conditioned on the co-conspirators being known by the government at the time, it does not depend on what any particular government attorney may have had in his or her head about who might be a co-conspirator, and it contains no other caveat or exception. This should be the end of the discussion," the defense brief said.

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https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/ghislaine-maxwell-makes-pitch-supreme-court/story?id=124144128

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There is no way he can pardon Maxwell. That would be such a horrible look.

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boognish_bear said:

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Odds of Maxwell being released from Custody this year are 18%https://t.co/AxZbCieT0O

— NewsWire (@NewsWire_US) July 28, 2025

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boognish_bear said:

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So...there is a list...but it's a fake one?

REPORTER: Doesn't the AG have to tell you if your name is in the Epstein files?

TRUMP: Well, I haven't been overly interested in it. It's a hoax that's been built up way beyond proportion. Those files were run by the worst scum on earth -- Comey, Garland, Biden. They can easily… pic.twitter.com/zh6joLKh0r

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 28, 2025

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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oops he was lying.


https://www.factcheck.org/2025/05/trumps-growing-exaggeration-of-u-s-investments/

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Come on, you know no one actually meant trillions of dollars. You are being unreasonable, now.

Trump is the most effective President in the 250 years of the US existence. No body has ever seen anything like this. Don't go by what actually happens, DOGE is saving us trillions and we trillions of new investment. With all these savings , tariff money and investment next budget will be balanced and deficit coming down, right?

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You are right. A man cant get info from the white house any more. Its no better now than a circus poster. Wasnt long ago it was fact filled
Thsnks for correcting me
The 27t came directly from the white page with big
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP on the front page.

Here it is. https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/100-days-of-investment-5-trillion-in-new-investment-fuels-americas-future/

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That's $9T as of April. It's more than 2x that now that the EU deal is done.

Whatever else can be said about Trump, he does have a knack for inspiring all these companies and countries (who we are told quietly hate him, as all normal people do) to line up to make public announcements of outlandish nonsensical investments. Do they do that to make watch the guy smile? Are they just pandering to Maga-land? Inquiring minds want to know.

C + I + G +/- T = GDP. The "I" part is investment. It typically runs in the 20% range. So on a nominal GDP of $30T, I would be approx $6B. The guy has as much as 4.5x that pledged by countries & corporations. Is it really your position that all $27T is smoke & mirrors & none of it will ever happen? How much of it has to happen for our economy to benefit?

Be specific please.

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Let's keep it simple and measurable.

How much did the US owe when Donald took office?
How much will the US owe when his FY 26 budget is approved or reconciled, because we can't approve a budget anymore.

Will the deficit be higher or lower?

Will the budget be balanced or lower?


Simple measurables. All the DOGE tweets, all the "commitments" to invest, all the monthly revenue projections (didn't know that was a thing usually we talk quarterly or Fiscal Year, but...) and all the rhetoric mean nothing if the numbers don't move.

So, based on where we are what are the numbers? No macro level discussions, no theory, or no lectures on how we don't understand big boy world... WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS ON THE LEDGER SHEET SHOWING?

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THE NUMBERS ON THE LEGER SHEET ARE SHOWING REDUCED GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES AND RISING GOVERNMENT REVENUE. (to include a SURPLUS in June).

6 months in, we're making progress and you're *****ing like nothing at all has happened (except that Donald has hurt your feelings).

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