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Actually, the officials said they didn't get a proper warning from NWS. Maybe hearing it from them won't hurt your sensibilities so much.

Trump supporters have lost the high ground to question morality. He proves what I've known for a while. Morality is not something you really believe in. It's just a card played to control people you don't like.

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We've already been over this. The NWS was/is still an overblown beast. A weather service only 11% of the size of the NWS, out predicted them in this case. And this is with just over 500 employees. National Weather Service has nearly 5,000 as it stands. NWS cut was only about 600 people

Terrifying.

Look at the SPEED of that water.
That’s what central Texans are and have been dealing with.

pic.twitter.com/04Lr2iWAI6

— Collin Myers (@collinmyerswx) July 5, 2025

Sound points

Heartbreaking! I hope they got some help.

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This has just been awful to track. Earlier today reporters were already calling out the sheriff (if I remember correctly) of one of the counties for why there was no warning.

Was this the leftovers from the tropical storm last weekend that hit Mexico or a different storm system?

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Not sure what has happened to our weather forecasters. Most of the time they are spot on. On more than one occasion this year, a 10 percent chance of rain has resulted in a couple of inches of rain.

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They were severely cut by DOGE.

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Kinda silly to try to blame this on Donald Trump and Elon Musk. All of our local (San Antonio) weather forecasters have been in place for years and are still there. The fact that the rains hit in the wee hours (midnight to 5:00 am) certainly did not help.

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Remember when Houston flooded to extreme levels and millions of people were caught unaware and couldn't get out. That was Donald Trump's fault too according to lemmings like Mitch BG.

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It's amazing that people who believe Jesus walked on water, Jonah survived inside a whale and Noah built an arch that housed 2 straight animals of all kinds can't believe that firing hundreds of meteorologists can delay the timeliness of weather warnings.

RD2 said the forecasts are usually spot on, what happened? You tell us.

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Yet an un-subsidized weather App, Accuweather beat the NWS to the punch. The Accuweather prediction came before the NWS told people to run, Accuweather with MUCH less resources, even if the NWS was missing a few people.

The NWS has a $1.3 billion per year budget. Accuweather costs nothing; it relies on ads.

The National Weather Service employs 4,800 people at 122 weather forecasting locations and 13 River forecasting locations. Accuweather has about 11% of that at 531...

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Accuweather takes NWS data, including forecasts, repackages it and charges money for subscriptions. The CEO of Accuweather was head of NOAA in 2017 and assured NWS couldn't issue forecasts to public that might compete with Accuweather.
At that time The CEO of Accuweather was the brother of the head of NOAA.
Accuweather was grossing about $50 million a year telling subscribers information that was free to the public from the Department of Commerce (where NOAA was)

On Saturday evening, officials in Kerrville said the death toll had climbed to 43.

This is all very sad, and I haven't lived in Texas for decades now. But growing up, pretty much all the rivers and creeks had "flash flood warning" signs and we knew to be extra careful around them when rain was forecast. When we camped, it was always high ground. Was that knowledge lost somewhere along the way, or was thjs just that severe?

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This is all very sad, and I haven't lived in Texas for decades now. But growing up, pretty much all the rivers and creeks had "flash flood warning" signs and we knew to be extra careful around them when rain was forecast. When we camped, it was always high ground. Was that knowledge lost somewhere along the way, or was thjs just that severe?

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As the Death Toll Rises in Texas, Democrats Choose to Be Black-Souled, Evil Ghouls

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/07/05/as-the-death-toll-rises-in-texas-democrats-choose-to-be-evil-ghouls-n2191290

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Certainly, this is not a time to try to take ghoulish political jabs based on what has occurred, and given the unpreventable nature of a flash flood, I'd argue there will never be a time for that.

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This has just been awful to track. Earlier today reporters were already calling out the sheriff (if I remember correctly) of one of the counties for why there was no warning.

Was this the leftovers from the tropical storm last weekend that hit Mexico or a different storm system?

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Not sure what has happened to our weather forecasters. Most of the time they are spot on. On more than one occasion this year, a 10 percent chance of rain has resulted in a couple of inches of rain.

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This "rain bomb" was predicted by Chris Suchan on WOAI three days ago.

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They happen on the Big Thompson River in Colorado periodically. Dozens drown in the river canyons almost every time.

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1976 Big Thompson River flood
A memorial containing a list of people killed in the flood

July 31, 1976
Flood Overall effects Fatalities 144
Injuries >250 Missing 5 Damage <$150 million (2016 USD)
Areas affected
Big Thompson River, north central Colorado
Houses destroyed 418
On July 31, 1976, heavy rainfall caused the Big Thompson River in Colorado to crest, causing at least 144 deaths, more than 250 injuries, and at least 5 others to be missing. The crest was caused by a stalled thunderstorm complex that produced rainfall totals of 1214 inches (300360 mm) near Estes Park, Colorado, including 7.5 inches (190 mm) of rain which fell in one hour.

After cresting at 30 feet (9.1 m), widespread damage and flooding occurred along the river, with the damage totaling almost $150 million (2016 USD). The flood is considered one of the deadliest floods in the state's history.
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- KKM

If you e spent any time in Kerrville, this gives you a sense of the staggering scope of the water rise. This happened in about 30-45 minutes at a time that everyone was asleep.

WATCH: Helicopter rescues at Camp Mystic in Kerrville, Texas amid catastrophic flooding of the Guadalupe River.

Multiple girls from the camp remain missing after several camp cabins were swept away during flash flooding. pic.twitter.com/fb6sdUNtmc

— Noteworthy News (@newsnoteworthy) July 4, 2025

Another example id you're familiar with the Llano crossing near Castell. And this is far far less volume than what came down the Guad through Kerr County.

Some friends across the country have asked about flash flooding - here is an example from Llano later in the day in on Jul 4. See 120 second timestamp 17:15-17:17. Now imagine dead of night… pic.twitter.com/U81TdsuY2k

— Chip Roy (@chiproytx) July 6, 2025

A timeline of the catastrophic Texas floods : NPR

July 2nd (Wed)

• At 4:41 p.m., early hints of severe weather came in a post on X by the National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio that said: "scattered moderate to heavy showers continue to develop and expand to the Hill Country."

July 3rd (Thurs)

• At 9:47 a.m. Texas Division of Emergency Management posted on X weather guidance in both English and Spanish, informing followers about what to do in a flood, adding: "As we head into the holiday weekend and the flood threat in West & Central TX continues, stay weather aware!"
• At some point in the morning, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick later said at a press conference, the TDEM Region 6 Assistance Chief had "personally contacted the judges and mayors in that area and notified them all of potential flooding." He said it was unclear exactly where in the region the storm would hit.
• At 3:35 p.m., the National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio announced a flood watch on X, saying "pockets of heavy rain are expected and may result in flooding." A flood watch is used when the weather conditions make a flood possible but it does not mean a flood will occur.

July 4th (Fri)

• At 12:42 a.m., the National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio posted on X upgrading its flood watch to a flood warning for part of the impacted area. In a post from 2:14 a.m., that area was expanded. A flood warning occurs when flooding is imminent or already happening.
• At 1:26 a.m., the National Weather Service's Weather Prediction Center said "flash flooding likely overnight with significant impacts possible." This message was posted on X a minute later.
• Around 3:30 a.m. the Kerrville City Manager Dalton Rice said he was out for an early morning jog along the Guadalupe River and saw "not a drop of rain," according to Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who recounted his conversation with the city manager. Rice added that he left around 4 a.m. when "there was very light rain…We did not see any signs of the river rising at that time."
• At 4:06 a.m. the National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio posted on X: "A very dangerous flash flooding event is ongoing." It ended: "Turn Around, Don't Drown!"
• Then, at 5:15 a.m. the National Weather Service San Angelo posted on X that there was a flash flood emergency. The Austin/San Antonio office posted on its X account about the emergency at 5:23 a.m. This type of alert is "exceedingly rare" and used when there is a "severe threat to human life and catastrophic damage," according to the National Weather Service.

Between 4 a.m. and 6 a.m., the Guadalupe River surged, with water levels rapidly rising as much as 30 feet, according to Rep. Roy. Local TV footage showed the empty foundations of houses, where everything else had been swept away.

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As the Death Toll Rises in Texas, Democrats Choose to Be Black-Souled, Evil Ghouls

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/07/05/as-the-death-toll-rises-in-texas-democrats-choose-to-be-evil-ghouls-n2191290

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Certainly, this is not a time to try to take ghoulish political jabs based on what has occurred, and given the unpreventable nature of a flash flood, I'd argue there will never be a time for that.

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This is sadly so predictable. In these horribly tragic disaster scenarios the left's first and foremost thought is ALWAYS how can we use and exploit this politically. They're shameless evil power hungry people who couldn't care less about the victims and their loved ones.

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Sadly, some of them might be celebrating those deaths. They hate children and families. Some of them think the global population should be reduced drastically.

They share their God's hatred for humanity. Their god is Satan.

I think we are guilty at times. We certainly can make a greater effort to be aware of what is going on around us, and not only regarding the weather.

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If you e spent any time in Kerrville, this gives you a sense of the staggering scope of the water rise. This happened in about 30-45 minutes at a time that everyone was asleep.

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Wrong link - sorry. Look at this one.

Perspective of the flooding in Kerrville. Horrifying pic.twitter.com/AmnSvjAvfk

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) July 4, 2025

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings-vacancies.html

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As the Death Toll Rises in Texas, Democrats Choose to Be Black-Souled, Evil Ghouls

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/07/05/as-the-death-toll-rises-in-texas-democrats-choose-to-be-evil-ghouls-n2191290

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Certainly, this is not a time to try to take ghoulish political jabs based on what has occurred, and given the unpreventable nature of a flash flood, I'd argue there will never be a time for that.

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This is sadly so predictable. In these horribly tragic disaster scenarios the left's first and foremost thought is ALWAYS how can we use and exploit this politically. They're shameless evil power hungry people who couldn't care less about the victims and their loved ones.

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Sadly, some of them might be celebrating those deaths. They hate children and families. Some of them think the global population should be reduced drastically.

They share their God's hatred for humanity. Their god is Satan.

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It is times like this that the soulless hate of so many becomes obvious. Disgusting heartless and evil. The left will exploit anything for political theatrics.

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick: "There were alert warnings that went out, we believe, by the locals." pic.twitter.com/wm3tKUlwOv

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 6, 2025

Latest I've heard is (I know there was MORE flooding in other counties as well in Central TX)

The death toll has risen to at least 59 people, including 21 children

5 girls from Camp Mystic dead (all 8 or 9 years old)
11 campers still missing