Charlie Kirk Assassinated

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muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

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So, while I understand Cruz is using quite a bit of hyperbole (not unlike Tucker does on a daily basis), the gist of what he's saying isn't necessarily wrong.


He isn't using hyperbole. He's lying. I'm sure there are a lof of Israeli citizens who are Jews who don't like Netanyahu and vote against him when given the opportunity. Are they antisemites as well?

Objecting to AIPAC, objecting to the foreign or domestic policy of the Israeli government, or not liking specific Israeli politicians does not make you an antisemite. That is getting very close to the way Democrats throw around the term racissssssssssssss.

Thats absolutely what it is. Its a made up term that they can use to slander you if you question their power and why they control both our politcal parties. The only thing that repubs and dems can agree on with nearly 100% certainty is that we need to give more of our tax money to Israel.


Reality - this is what I'm talking about - the belief that some diabolical Jewish cabal runs both parties. It's the height of absurdity, lacks any semblance of evidentiary support and is an example of antisemitism on the right. We have some very gullible people on the right that believe this sort of bull*****.
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Robert Wilson said:

Realitybites said:

'Armed Queers' Marxist Revolutionaries Under Investigation For Possible Foreknowledge Of Kirk's Assassination Plot

"Armed Queers SLC says its mission is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and to fight against capitalism.

Why would the gays be particularly aggrieved by capitalism?

They are not. They are socialists / fascists so hate capitalism because it's based on freedom and thus something the govt cannot control.

Fascists don't let something like logic or common sense to interfere with their dogmas. They are power hungry tyrants.
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Sam Lowry said:

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Robert Wilson said:

That's appalling.

Wonder what the boyfriend was thinking at that point.

And imagine this kid's poor parents. I know the focus is rightly primarily on Kirk's family, but damn.


I give credit to the father for turning in his own son, even though he knows that his son will get the death penalty.
That guy knew that his son was behind help and is a danger to everyone.
Sad, but he did do the right thing in the end.


Let's not forget to give him credit for being a Republican, since that's the only real reason you're not calling for him to be prosecuted too.

That would require him to be part of the plot. No evidence has been released suggesting that.
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Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

'Armed Queers' Marxist Revolutionaries Under Investigation For Possible Foreknowledge Of Kirk's Assassination Plot

"Armed Queers SLC says its mission is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and to fight against capitalism. Although their purported Facebook page does not directly appear to encourage the use of firearms in their claimed mission, many of the images used depict firearms. As recently as this spring, its members traveled to Cuba for a meeting to celebrate the May Day holiday and participate in a march and events alongside revolutionaries from around the world.
. . .
Two leaders of Armed Queers Ermyia Fanaeian and a man who called himself "Connor" discussed their trip to Cuba in a since-deleted May video titled, "Cuba Report Back: Our Time as 2025 May Day Brigadistas." A search by Just the News could not positively identify him.

Highlights from Pounds' report on Armed Queers:

  • Armed Queers SLC is under investigation for possible foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
  • Their leader, Ermiya Fanaeian, was recognized by a State Deptaffiliated NGO, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of the "7 for 17" Award for advancing the UN's 17 Goals
Per the 990 form with Utah Global Diplomacy (EIN 876128308), the nonprofit is a partner with the US State Department to cultivate emerging leaders and diplomacy initiatives. In other words, she was selected to "help shape U.S. Foreign relations." Their words, not mine."



Read the entire thing, it's worth it.

So why hasnt the FBI done anything about all of these types of groups.

You mean this type?



That's only frightening to someone with a gun phobia or hates the idea of armed citizens exercising their constitutional rights.
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Touch!
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muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

'Armed Queers' Marxist Revolutionaries Under Investigation For Possible Foreknowledge Of Kirk's Assassination Plot

"Armed Queers SLC says its mission is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and to fight against capitalism. Although their purported Facebook page does not directly appear to encourage the use of firearms in their claimed mission, many of the images used depict firearms. As recently as this spring, its members traveled to Cuba for a meeting to celebrate the May Day holiday and participate in a march and events alongside revolutionaries from around the world.
. . .
Two leaders of Armed Queers Ermyia Fanaeian and a man who called himself "Connor" discussed their trip to Cuba in a since-deleted May video titled, "Cuba Report Back: Our Time as 2025 May Day Brigadistas." A search by Just the News could not positively identify him.

Highlights from Pounds' report on Armed Queers:

  • Armed Queers SLC is under investigation for possible foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
  • Their leader, Ermiya Fanaeian, was recognized by a State Deptaffiliated NGO, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of the "7 for 17" Award for advancing the UN's 17 Goals
Per the 990 form with Utah Global Diplomacy (EIN 876128308), the nonprofit is a partner with the US State Department to cultivate emerging leaders and diplomacy initiatives. In other words, she was selected to "help shape U.S. Foreign relations." Their words, not mine."



Read the entire thing, it's worth it.

So why hasnt the FBI done anything about all of these types of groups.

You mean this type?



are these women attacking ICE agents or dropping pallets of bricks to create riots?

That looks to me like someone trying to gain followers on insta so they give a couple of hot girls guns so Maga dudes will like the pic.

I don't know. Are the Armed Queers attacking ICE agents?

isnt an armed queer suspected of shooting Kirk? SHouldnt the fbi go seize the discord servers to look into this? I would but im just a message board spare.

Lash said they are looking at everyone involved in the chat group. And it's more than 20 people.
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

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So, while I understand Cruz is using quite a bit of hyperbole (not unlike Tucker does on a daily basis), the gist of what he's saying isn't necessarily wrong.


He isn't using hyperbole. He's lying. I'm sure there are a lof of Israeli citizens who are Jews who don't like Netanyahu and vote against him when given the opportunity. Are they antisemites as well?

Objecting to AIPAC, objecting to the foreign or domestic policy of the Israeli government, or not liking specific Israeli politicians does not make you an antisemite. That is getting very close to the way Democrats throw around the term racissssssssssssss.

Thats absolutely what it is. Its a made up term that they can use to slander you if you question their power and why they control both our politcal parties. The only thing that repubs and dems can agree on with nearly 100% certainty is that we need to give more of our tax money to Israel.


Reality - this is what I'm talking about - the belief that some diabolical Jewish cabal runs both parties. It's the height of absurdity, lacks any semblance of evidentiary support and is an example of antisemitism on the right. We have some very gullible people on the right that believe this sort of bull*****.


But its true. Thomas Massie is one of the only people in congress who doesnt take AIPAC money so they want to primary him. Just recently there was a vote to send an additional $500million for weapons to Israel and it passed like 99% in congress. This is the only issue both parties 100% agree on. A nation that is $37 trillion in debt doesnt need to be bankrolling another country.

And look what youre doing here. Youre conflating some "diabolical cabal" with a nation state that has a lobbying group that is allowed to operate outside the laws of FARA. Also, we know that they spy on us more than any other country and use blackmail on our politicans (Epestein). Trump secret service just found bugs on his motorcade after a state visit.
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Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

'Armed Queers' Marxist Revolutionaries Under Investigation For Possible Foreknowledge Of Kirk's Assassination Plot

"Armed Queers SLC says its mission is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and to fight against capitalism. Although their purported Facebook page does not directly appear to encourage the use of firearms in their claimed mission, many of the images used depict firearms. As recently as this spring, its members traveled to Cuba for a meeting to celebrate the May Day holiday and participate in a march and events alongside revolutionaries from around the world.
. . .
Two leaders of Armed Queers Ermyia Fanaeian and a man who called himself "Connor" discussed their trip to Cuba in a since-deleted May video titled, "Cuba Report Back: Our Time as 2025 May Day Brigadistas." A search by Just the News could not positively identify him.

Highlights from Pounds' report on Armed Queers:

  • Armed Queers SLC is under investigation for possible foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
  • Their leader, Ermiya Fanaeian, was recognized by a State Deptaffiliated NGO, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of the "7 for 17" Award for advancing the UN's 17 Goals
Per the 990 form with Utah Global Diplomacy (EIN 876128308), the nonprofit is a partner with the US State Department to cultivate emerging leaders and diplomacy initiatives. In other words, she was selected to "help shape U.S. Foreign relations." Their words, not mine."



Read the entire thing, it's worth it.

So why hasnt the FBI done anything about all of these types of groups.

You mean this type?



are these women attacking ICE agents or dropping pallets of bricks to create riots?

That looks to me like someone trying to gain followers on insta so they give a couple of hot girls guns so Maga dudes will like the pic.

I don't know. Are the Armed Queers attacking ICE agents?

isnt an armed queer suspected of shooting Kirk? SHouldnt the fbi go seize the discord servers to look into this? I would but im just a message board spare.

If there's evidence of a connection to the shooter, of course they should investigate it. All I got from the news release is that it's a leftist group that supports gun ownership, just like countless right-wing groups do. We may not like their politics, but it's a problem if they're being targeted on that basis, wouldn't you say?

the only people killing gays and trans are their boyfriends. They seem to be punching above their weight class on killing others in school shootings, though.

I mean targeted for investigation, harassment, or other action by authorities. You don't want them going after conservative groups every time an armed Republican is accused of a crime. It's the same principle.

That's because those groups don't have a record of violence. Democrats do, going back to the Civil War and before.

Babylon Bee even had a post that was barely satirical:

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FLBear5630 said:

DAC said:

muddybrazos said:



If this kid has a decent lawyer he will not get the death penalty and may even get off. Maybe his dad will use some of the reward from Bill Ackman for his attorney.

why would they have to find the bullet ?

To match ballistics.

It would be helpful no doubt, but not essential. His confession will carry more weight.

There is plenty of other evidence: security photos, eyewitness accounts, his DNA trail when he escaped, his footprint, etc.
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

Assassin said:

muddybrazos said:



Alex Jones would be way down the list of folks I would want to replace Charlie

I would want to muzzle Alex Jones as an on campus debate guy.

He is nuts, Charlie was a sincerely decent guy.

Officer Tatum would be MUCh better than Alex Jones, and even he can
go overboard. "

Charlie Kirk had a decency to him and a gentleness in debate that won't be matched honestly.



There are plenty of people who can take up Charlie's mantle to resume where he left off. It will be interesting to see who does. As for his podcast, JD Vance & Glen Beck have already filled in. I'm not sure who else. I'm not sure if any of these people would do the campus visits.
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Assassin said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

Assassin said:

muddybrazos said:



Alex Jones would be way down the list of folks I would want to replace Charlie

I would want to muzzle Alex Jones as an on campus debate guy.

He is nuts, Charlie was a sincerely decent guy.

Officer Tatum would be MUCh better than Alex Jones, and even he can
go overboard.

Charlie Kirk had a decency to him and a gentleness in debate that won't be matched honestly.

I know several folks on Twitter that would be better than Jones IF Turning Point has a voice in this process

Turning Point definitely has a voice in deciding who they send. No doubt if the campus tour resumes it will be under their banner. They will have the only voice that matters.
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Jack Bauer said:

I think the left will realize how normal a person Charlie Kirk was if/when he is replaced by Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes, etc.

They probably already know it. They won't admit it publicly because they are too arrogant.
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gtownbear said:

I expected some of the evil reaction by some of the depraved youth; the numbers have surprised me. However I have been shocked by the number of influential individuals in our society like Doctors, Nurses, the number of Teachers and Professors, Airline Pilots and the like openly cheering Charlie Kirk's assassination on social media and other platforms. The rot in our society is much deeper than I had imagined. Normal individuals and certainly Christians can never get along with these folks who rejoice at such evil.

At least they are being fired all over.
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ScottS said:

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First Colbert and now Kimmel? Where will I get my laughs from?

Greg Gutfeld is actually funny much of the time. It's a good place to start.

(Yes, I know you were being facetious).
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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

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So, while I understand Cruz is using quite a bit of hyperbole (not unlike Tucker does on a daily basis), the gist of what he's saying isn't necessarily wrong.


He isn't using hyperbole. He's lying. I'm sure there are a lof of Israeli citizens who are Jews who don't like Netanyahu and vote against him when given the opportunity. Are they antisemites as well?

Objecting to AIPAC, objecting to the foreign or domestic policy of the Israeli government, or not liking specific Israeli politicians does not make you an antisemite. That is getting very close to the way Democrats throw around the term racissssssssssssss.

Thats absolutely what it is. Its a made up term that they can use to slander you if you question their power and why they control both our politcal parties. The only thing that repubs and dems can agree on with nearly 100% certainty is that we need to give more of our tax money to Israel.


Reality - this is what I'm talking about - the belief that some diabolical Jewish cabal runs both parties. It's the height of absurdity, lacks any semblance of evidentiary support and is an example of antisemitism on the right. We have some very gullible people on the right that believe this sort of bull*****.


But its true. Thomas Massie is one of the only people in congress who doesnt take AIPAC money so they want to primary him. Just recently there was a vote to send an additional $500million for weapons to Israel and it passed like 99% in congress. This is the only issue both parties 100% agree on. A nation that is $37 trillion in debt doesnt need to be bankrolling another country.

And look what youre doing here. Youre conflating some "diabolical cabal" with a nation state that has a lobbying group that is allowed to operate outside the laws of FARA. Also, we know that they spy on us more than any other country and use blackmail on our politicans (Epestein). Trump secret service just found bugs on his motorcade after a state visit.

I respect Massie's willingness to stand alone on issues, most notable being the atrocious covid legislation that both parties rushed forward in an absolute panic.

I agree that we should as a rule not fund wars abroad, and that includes Israel's fight with Hamas. A couple mitigating thoughts ... one - it's not really that much money, and two - we are probably paying for a little influence more than anything. But I'd rather us not have our fingerprints on it at all. There's a time that fledgling Israel needed help protecting itself, but that time is past. I do think it's a mistake on the right to go farther into all of the "Israel is the world's mastermind, pulling all the strings" stuff. You don't need to go that far to believe we can and should just stop funding them, and pretty quickly the right wing conspiracy theorists are shaking hands with the left wing antisemites.

At the same time, if they need help bunker busting Iran's nuclear program, we should absolutely participate in that sort of thing based on the demonstrable shared interest.
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historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

'Armed Queers' Marxist Revolutionaries Under Investigation For Possible Foreknowledge Of Kirk's Assassination Plot

"Armed Queers SLC says its mission is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and to fight against capitalism. Although their purported Facebook page does not directly appear to encourage the use of firearms in their claimed mission, many of the images used depict firearms. As recently as this spring, its members traveled to Cuba for a meeting to celebrate the May Day holiday and participate in a march and events alongside revolutionaries from around the world.
. . .
Two leaders of Armed Queers Ermyia Fanaeian and a man who called himself "Connor" discussed their trip to Cuba in a since-deleted May video titled, "Cuba Report Back: Our Time as 2025 May Day Brigadistas." A search by Just the News could not positively identify him.

Highlights from Pounds' report on Armed Queers:

  • Armed Queers SLC is under investigation for possible foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
  • Their leader, Ermiya Fanaeian, was recognized by a State Deptaffiliated NGO, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of the "7 for 17" Award for advancing the UN's 17 Goals
Per the 990 form with Utah Global Diplomacy (EIN 876128308), the nonprofit is a partner with the US State Department to cultivate emerging leaders and diplomacy initiatives. In other words, she was selected to "help shape U.S. Foreign relations." Their words, not mine."



Read the entire thing, it's worth it.

So why hasnt the FBI done anything about all of these types of groups.

You mean this type?



are these women attacking ICE agents or dropping pallets of bricks to create riots?

That looks to me like someone trying to gain followers on insta so they give a couple of hot girls guns so Maga dudes will like the pic.

I don't know. Are the Armed Queers attacking ICE agents?

isnt an armed queer suspected of shooting Kirk? SHouldnt the fbi go seize the discord servers to look into this? I would but im just a message board spare.

If there's evidence of a connection to the shooter, of course they should investigate it. All I got from the news release is that it's a leftist group that supports gun ownership, just like countless right-wing groups do. We may not like their politics, but it's a problem if they're being targeted on that basis, wouldn't you say?

the only people killing gays and trans are their boyfriends. They seem to be punching above their weight class on killing others in school shootings, though.

I mean targeted for investigation, harassment, or other action by authorities. You don't want them going after conservative groups every time an armed Republican is accused of a crime. It's the same principle.

That's because those groups don't have a record of violence. Democrats do, going back to the Civil War and before.

Babylon Bee even had a post that was barely satirical:


So it's not just Armed Queers, it's the whole Democratic Party?

Keep talking…what should be done about this terrorist organization that has plagued society for lo, these many years?
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Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

Osodecentx said:

xThe Texas Education Agency is investigating more than 280 complaints of teachers who posted or shared "reprehensible and inappropriate" content about the assassination of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.

Education Commissioner Mike Morath announced last week that the agency is reviewing such social media posts to see whether they could constitute a violation of the Educators' Code of Ethics. He has said that he will recommend the State Board for Educator Certification suspend those teachers' licenses, making them ineligible to teach in a Texas public school.

Dang, it sounds like a great start.

Step 2 - the Universities


There is no "hate speech" exception to First Amendment protection.

Please focus on government action (teachers) vs private action (Kimmel)

Teachers and many other professionals have ethics clauses in their contracts. Publicly promoting murder is legitimate grounds for firing.
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FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:



funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?


None of this is remotely funny.
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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

So, while I understand Cruz is using quite a bit of hyperbole (not unlike Tucker does on a daily basis), the gist of what he's saying isn't necessarily wrong.


He isn't using hyperbole. He's lying. I'm sure there are a lof of Israeli citizens who are Jews who don't like Netanyahu and vote against him when given the opportunity. Are they antisemites as well?

Objecting to AIPAC, objecting to the foreign or domestic policy of the Israeli government, or not liking specific Israeli politicians does not make you an antisemite. That is getting very close to the way Democrats throw around the term racissssssssssssss.

Thats absolutely what it is. Its a made up term that they can use to slander you if you question their power and why they control both our politcal parties. The only thing that repubs and dems can agree on with nearly 100% certainty is that we need to give more of our tax money to Israel.


Reality - this is what I'm talking about - the belief that some diabolical Jewish cabal runs both parties. It's the height of absurdity, lacks any semblance of evidentiary support and is an example of antisemitism on the right. We have some very gullible people on the right that believe this sort of bull*****.


But its true. Thomas Massie is one of the only people in congress who doesnt take AIPAC money so they want to primary him. Just recently there was a vote to send an additional $500million for weapons to Israel and it passed like 99% in congress. This is the only issue both parties 100% agree on. A nation that is $37 trillion in debt doesnt need to be bankrolling another country.

And look what youre doing here. Youre conflating some "diabolical cabal" with a nation state that has a lobbying group that is allowed to operate outside the laws of FARA. Also, we know that they spy on us more than any other country and use blackmail on our politicans (Epestein). Trump secret service just found bugs on his motorcade after a state visit.

Thomas Massie is getting primaried because he's an anti-Trump idiot. This is the guy who has partnered with Democrats on issues, and regularly bumps heads with Trump. That is why he's being primaried. I promise you, not everything is a Jewish conspiracy.

As for AIPAC, just like any organization that is funded by Americans and receives no donations from foreign groups or govts, it is not subject to FARA.

And I hate to break it to you, but there's no evidence of any massive conspiracy regarding Epstein either.

I know you would like to think Jews are behind the world's ills. You just don't have any evidence to support these theories.
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Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

'Armed Queers' Marxist Revolutionaries Under Investigation For Possible Foreknowledge Of Kirk's Assassination Plot

"Armed Queers SLC says its mission is to train gay, queer and transgender people to arm themselves and to fight against capitalism. Although their purported Facebook page does not directly appear to encourage the use of firearms in their claimed mission, many of the images used depict firearms. As recently as this spring, its members traveled to Cuba for a meeting to celebrate the May Day holiday and participate in a march and events alongside revolutionaries from around the world.
. . .
Two leaders of Armed Queers Ermyia Fanaeian and a man who called himself "Connor" discussed their trip to Cuba in a since-deleted May video titled, "Cuba Report Back: Our Time as 2025 May Day Brigadistas." A search by Just the News could not positively identify him.

Highlights from Pounds' report on Armed Queers:

  • Armed Queers SLC is under investigation for possible foreknowledge of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
  • Their leader, Ermiya Fanaeian, was recognized by a State Deptaffiliated NGO, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of the "7 for 17" Award for advancing the UN's 17 Goals
Per the 990 form with Utah Global Diplomacy (EIN 876128308), the nonprofit is a partner with the US State Department to cultivate emerging leaders and diplomacy initiatives. In other words, she was selected to "help shape U.S. Foreign relations." Their words, not mine."



Read the entire thing, it's worth it.

So why hasnt the FBI done anything about all of these types of groups.

You mean this type?



are these women attacking ICE agents or dropping pallets of bricks to create riots?

That looks to me like someone trying to gain followers on insta so they give a couple of hot girls guns so Maga dudes will like the pic.

I don't know. Are the Armed Queers attacking ICE agents?

isnt an armed queer suspected of shooting Kirk? SHouldnt the fbi go seize the discord servers to look into this? I would but im just a message board spare.

If there's evidence of a connection to the shooter, of course they should investigate it. All I got from the news release is that it's a leftist group that supports gun ownership, just like countless right-wing groups do. We may not like their politics, but it's a problem if they're being targeted on that basis, wouldn't you say?

the only people killing gays and trans are their boyfriends. They seem to be punching above their weight class on killing others in school shootings, though.

I mean targeted for investigation, harassment, or other action by authorities. You don't want them going after conservative groups every time an armed Republican is accused of a crime. It's the same principle.

That's because those groups don't have a record of violence. Democrats do, going back to the Civil War and before.

Babylon Bee even had a post that was barely satirical:



So it's not just Armed Queers, it's the whole Democratic Party?

Keep talking…what should be done about this terrorist organization that has plagued society for lo, these many years?

Whole Democrat Party? Nah. But large swaths of people within the party absolutely engage in the kind of rhetoric that leads to multiple assassination attempts.
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Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

Osodecentx said:

xThe Texas Education Agency is investigating more than 280 complaints of teachers who posted or shared "reprehensible and inappropriate" content about the assassination of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.

Education Commissioner Mike Morath announced last week that the agency is reviewing such social media posts to see whether they could constitute a violation of the Educators' Code of Ethics. He has said that he will recommend the State Board for Educator Certification suspend those teachers' licenses, making them ineligible to teach in a Texas public school.

Dang, it sounds like a great start.

Step 2 - the Universities


There is no "hate speech" exception to First Amendment protection.

Please focus on government action (teachers) vs private action (Kimmel)

Sounds like we are all speculating Kimmel was taken off the air because of govt. action. I've seen no evidence of that - other than pure speculation. Have you?

Yes
ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Off Air for Charlie Kirk Comments After F.C.C. Pressure
Mr. Kimmel faced criticism from the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission for remarks about the politics of the man who is accused of killing Mr. Kirk, the conservative activist.


Found that story.

And I agree totally uncalled for and a violation of the first amendment imo. Kimmel is a POS, but if threats were truly made, then that's despicable.

Edit: BBC has a story that delves a little deeper. I'm not sure that any real threats were actually made according to the BBC story. Apparently one of the cable providers to a portion of the country canceled the airing and then the FCC chair went on a podcast and criticized Kimmel and said that ABC must behave responsibly with its FCC license. Might be a threat but it certainly wasn't ans overt as I think is being reported.

We will see. Not good to chill free speech, even when someone such as Kimmel spreads despicable lies. Let's not be the Biden admin.


Agreed
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

So, while I understand Cruz is using quite a bit of hyperbole (not unlike Tucker does on a daily basis), the gist of what he's saying isn't necessarily wrong.


He isn't using hyperbole. He's lying. I'm sure there are a lof of Israeli citizens who are Jews who don't like Netanyahu and vote against him when given the opportunity. Are they antisemites as well?

Objecting to AIPAC, objecting to the foreign or domestic policy of the Israeli government, or not liking specific Israeli politicians does not make you an antisemite. That is getting very close to the way Democrats throw around the term racissssssssssssss.

Thats absolutely what it is. Its a made up term that they can use to slander you if you question their power and why they control both our politcal parties. The only thing that repubs and dems can agree on with nearly 100% certainty is that we need to give more of our tax money to Israel.


Reality - this is what I'm talking about - the belief that some diabolical Jewish cabal runs both parties. It's the height of absurdity, lacks any semblance of evidentiary support and is an example of antisemitism on the right. We have some very gullible people on the right that believe this sort of bull*****.


But its true. Thomas Massie is one of the only people in congress who doesnt take AIPAC money so they want to primary him. Just recently there was a vote to send an additional $500million for weapons to Israel and it passed like 99% in congress. This is the only issue both parties 100% agree on. A nation that is $37 trillion in debt doesnt need to be bankrolling another country.

And look what youre doing here. Youre conflating some "diabolical cabal" with a nation state that has a lobbying group that is allowed to operate outside the laws of FARA. Also, we know that they spy on us more than any other country and use blackmail on our politicans (Epestein). Trump secret service just found bugs on his motorcade after a state visit.

Thomas Massie is getting primaried because he's an anti-Trump idiot. This is the guy who has partnered with Democrats on issues, and regularly bumps heads with Trump. That is why he's being primaried. I promise you, not everything is a Jewish conspiracy.

As for AIPAC, just like any organization that is funded by Americans and receives no donations from foreign groups or govts, it is not subject to FARA.

And I hate to break it to you, but there's no evidence of any massive conspiracy regarding Epstein either.

I know you would like to think Jews are behind the world's ills. You just don't have any evidence to support these theories.

Thankfully Thomas Massie will not be able to be primaried bc he is popular in his district. No amount of AIPAC money will be able to unseat him. You are entitled to believe whatever you like when it comes to Epstein etc. I'm sure it was all just fake and I bet no rich and powerful people have ever done anything like what is alleged that Epstein did.
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Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

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So, while I understand Cruz is using quite a bit of hyperbole (not unlike Tucker does on a daily basis), the gist of what he's saying isn't necessarily wrong.


He isn't using hyperbole. He's lying. I'm sure there are a lof of Israeli citizens who are Jews who don't like Netanyahu and vote against him when given the opportunity. Are they antisemites as well?

Objecting to AIPAC, objecting to the foreign or domestic policy of the Israeli government, or not liking specific Israeli politicians does not make you an antisemite. That is getting very close to the way Democrats throw around the term racissssssssssssss.

Thats absolutely what it is. Its a made up term that they can use to slander you if you question their power and why they control both our politcal parties. The only thing that repubs and dems can agree on with nearly 100% certainty is that we need to give more of our tax money to Israel.


Reality - this is what I'm talking about - the belief that some diabolical Jewish cabal runs both parties. It's the height of absurdity, lacks any semblance of evidentiary support and is an example of antisemitism on the right. We have some very gullible people on the right that believe this sort of bull*****.



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muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Mothra said:

muddybrazos said:

Realitybites said:

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So, while I understand Cruz is using quite a bit of hyperbole (not unlike Tucker does on a daily basis), the gist of what he's saying isn't necessarily wrong.


He isn't using hyperbole. He's lying. I'm sure there are a lof of Israeli citizens who are Jews who don't like Netanyahu and vote against him when given the opportunity. Are they antisemites as well?

Objecting to AIPAC, objecting to the foreign or domestic policy of the Israeli government, or not liking specific Israeli politicians does not make you an antisemite. That is getting very close to the way Democrats throw around the term racissssssssssssss.

Thats absolutely what it is. Its a made up term that they can use to slander you if you question their power and why they control both our politcal parties. The only thing that repubs and dems can agree on with nearly 100% certainty is that we need to give more of our tax money to Israel.


Reality - this is what I'm talking about - the belief that some diabolical Jewish cabal runs both parties. It's the height of absurdity, lacks any semblance of evidentiary support and is an example of antisemitism on the right. We have some very gullible people on the right that believe this sort of bull*****.


But its true. Thomas Massie is one of the only people in congress who doesnt take AIPAC money so they want to primary him. Just recently there was a vote to send an additional $500million for weapons to Israel and it passed like 99% in congress. This is the only issue both parties 100% agree on. A nation that is $37 trillion in debt doesnt need to be bankrolling another country.

And look what youre doing here. Youre conflating some "diabolical cabal" with a nation state that has a lobbying group that is allowed to operate outside the laws of FARA. Also, we know that they spy on us more than any other country and use blackmail on our politicans (Epestein). Trump secret service just found bugs on his motorcade after a state visit.

Thomas Massie is getting primaried because he's an anti-Trump idiot. This is the guy who has partnered with Democrats on issues, and regularly bumps heads with Trump. That is why he's being primaried. I promise you, not everything is a Jewish conspiracy.

As for AIPAC, just like any organization that is funded by Americans and receives no donations from foreign groups or govts, it is not subject to FARA.

And I hate to break it to you, but there's no evidence of any massive conspiracy regarding Epstein either.

I know you would like to think Jews are behind the world's ills. You just don't have any evidence to support these theories.

Thankfully Thomas Massie will not be able to be primaried bc he is popular in his district. No amount of AIPAC money will be able to unseat him. You are entitled to believe whatever you like when it comes to Epstein etc. I'm sure it was all just fake and I bet no rich and powerful people have ever done anything like what is alleged that Epstein did.

I believe facts and follow the facts. And there are no facts supporting your conspiracy theories.

I think a worthwhile endeavor is asking yourself why you are so susceptible to conspiracy theories about Jews. Maybe some self-introspection is in order.
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Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

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xThe Texas Education Agency is investigating more than 280 complaints of teachers who posted or shared "reprehensible and inappropriate" content about the assassination of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.

Education Commissioner Mike Morath announced last week that the agency is reviewing such social media posts to see whether they could constitute a violation of the Educators' Code of Ethics. He has said that he will recommend the State Board for Educator Certification suspend those teachers' licenses, making them ineligible to teach in a Texas public school.

Dang, it sounds like a great start.

Step 2 - the Universities


There is no "hate speech" exception to First Amendment protection.

Please focus on government action (teachers) vs private action (Kimmel)

Sounds like we are all speculating Kimmel was taken off the air because of govt. action. I've seen no evidence of that - other than pure speculation. Have you?

Yes
ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Off Air for Charlie Kirk Comments After F.C.C. Pressure
Mr. Kimmel faced criticism from the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission for remarks about the politics of the man who is accused of killing Mr. Kirk, the conservative activist.


Found that story.

And I agree totally uncalled for and a violation of the first amendment imo. Kimmel is a POS, but if threats were truly made, then that's despicable.

Edit: BBC has a story that delves a little deeper. I'm not sure that any threats were actually made according to the BBC story. Apparently one of the cable providers to a portion of the country canceled the airing and then the FTC chair went on a podcast and criticized Kimmel and said that ABC must behave responsibly with its FTC license. Might be a threat but it certainly wasn't overt and I've seen no reporting from abc confirming threats were actually made.

We will see.


I agree that would be bull***** Not as bad as when the Biden administration leaned on all social media companies to broadly squelch speech they disagreed with, but along the same lines.

I think Kimmel is and has always been a complete ass, but he and the 27 people who watch him should be happy to bounce right along as long as ABC is willing to pay for it.

Given the ratings for late night TV, if Stephen Colbert was losing that much money, I would not be surprised to find Kimmel was as well, and for ABC this is a soft landing. "Trump made us do it."


This is the key: was ABC losing $40 million a year with Kimmel the way NBC was with Colbert? I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/new-york-times-issues-minor-clarification-that-charlie-kirk-said-hitler-is-bad-not-hitler-is-good
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historian said:

gtownbear said:

I expected some of the evil reaction by some of the depraved youth; the numbers have surprised me. However I have been shocked by the number of influential individuals in our society like Doctors, Nurses, the number of Teachers and Professors, Airline Pilots and the like openly cheering Charlie Kirk's assassination on social media and other platforms. The rot in our society is much deeper than I had imagined. Normal individuals and certainly Christians can never get along with these folks who rejoice at such evil.

At least they are being fired all over.

Thankfully that is true. A stronger reaction than ever before which is encouraging.
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Hell, one of your buddies blames them for Jesus's death.


That is a documented fact of history recorded in the God inspired words of the New Testament in Luke 23:13-23:

"Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people, said to them, "You have brought this Man to me, as one who misleads the people. And indeed, having examined Him in your presence, I have found no fault in this Man concerning those things of which you accuse Him; no, neither did Herod, for I sent you back to him; and indeed nothing deserving of death has been done by Him. I will therefore chastise Him and release Him" (for it was necessary for him to release one to them at the feast).

And they all cried out at once, saying, "Away with this Man, and release to us Barabbas" who had been thrown into prison for a certain rebellion made in the city, and for murder.

Pilate, therefore, wishing to release Jesus, again called out to them. But they shouted, saying, "Crucify Him, crucify Him!"

Then he said to them the third time, "Why, what evil has He done? I have found no reason for death in Him. I will therefore chastise Him and let Him go."

But they were insistent, demanding with loud voices that He be crucified. And the voices of these men and of the chief priests prevailed."

The Gospel of Matthew provides even more detail about their insistence, saying "And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

If that's not enough, Saint Paul reiterates this in Acts 13:

""Men and brethren, sons of the family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the word of this salvation has been sent. For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him. And though they found no cause for death in Him, they asked Pilate that He should be put to death."
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Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

muddybrazos said:



Alex Jones would be way down the list of folks I would want to replace Charlie


Terrible idea

Alex Jones needs to stay off college campuses.

He is nuts.
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historian said:

gtownbear said:

I expected some of the evil reaction by some of the depraved youth; the numbers have surprised me. However I have been shocked by the number of influential individuals in our society like Doctors, Nurses, the number of Teachers and Professors, Airline Pilots and the like openly cheering Charlie Kirk's assassination on social media and other platforms. The rot in our society is much deeper than I had imagined. Normal individuals and certainly Christians can never get along with these folks who rejoice at such evil.

At least they are being fired all over.

For every one going online with their outward hatred, there's another 10 that feel the same way as the fired individuals. They just aren't stupid enough to publish their hate.
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One more thing I'd add, a funny one liner I heard from Kyle Seraphim this week in discussing the whole Jewish-Muslim conflict.

"They aren't bacon eaters, so they aren't my people."
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Realitybites said:

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Hell, one of your buddies blames them for Jesus's death.


That is a documented fact of history recorded in the God inspired words of the New Testament in Luke 23:13-23:

"Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people, said to them, "You have brought this Man to me, as one who misleads the people. And indeed, having examined Him in your presence, I have found no fault in this Man concerning those things of which you accuse Him; no, neither did Herod, for I sent you back to him; and indeed nothing deserving of death has been done by Him. I will therefore chastise Him and release Him" (for it was necessary for him to release one to them at the feast).

And they all cried out at once, saying, "Away with this Man, and release to us Barabbas" who had been thrown into prison for a certain rebellion made in the city, and for murder.

Pilate, therefore, wishing to release Jesus, again called out to them. But they shouted, saying, "Crucify Him, crucify Him!"

Then he said to them the third time, "Why, what evil has He done? I have found no reason for death in Him. I will therefore chastise Him and let Him go."

But they were insistent, demanding with loud voices that He be crucified. And the voices of these men and of the chief priests prevailed."

The Gospel of Matthew provides even more detail about their insistence, saying "And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

If that's not enough, Saint Paul reiterates this in Acts 13:

""Men and brethren, sons of the family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the word of this salvation has been sent. For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him. And though they found no cause for death in Him, they asked Pilate that He should be put to death."

Yes, Christ died at the behest of the Jewish Pharisees, but anyone who thinks that was not according to Christ's preordained plan, and that he did not choose to die in the way that he died, is likely not a Christian. Indeed, the poster in question admitted as much.

And therein lies the issue. Anyone focused on who killed Jesus and using it as a cudgel to disparage the Jewish people, as your buddy did, is an antisemitic person. Christ is God. He chose his own death, and who would kill him. And but for that death, you and I and the rest of the Gentiles would be in real trouble. (Let's also not forget that Christ and his disciples were Jewish).

Anyone attempting to hold that against the Jews is a bigot, plain and simple. It's kind of shocking that you are defending such bigotry.
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

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Hell, one of your buddies blames them for Jesus's death.


That is a documented fact of history recorded in the God inspired words of the New Testament in Luke 23:13-23:

"Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people, said to them, "You have brought this Man to me, as one who misleads the people. And indeed, having examined Him in your presence, I have found no fault in this Man concerning those things of which you accuse Him; no, neither did Herod, for I sent you back to him; and indeed nothing deserving of death has been done by Him. I will therefore chastise Him and release Him" (for it was necessary for him to release one to them at the feast).

And they all cried out at once, saying, "Away with this Man, and release to us Barabbas" who had been thrown into prison for a certain rebellion made in the city, and for murder.

Pilate, therefore, wishing to release Jesus, again called out to them. But they shouted, saying, "Crucify Him, crucify Him!"

Then he said to them the third time, "Why, what evil has He done? I have found no reason for death in Him. I will therefore chastise Him and let Him go."

But they were insistent, demanding with loud voices that He be crucified. And the voices of these men and of the chief priests prevailed."

The Gospel of Matthew provides even more detail about their insistence, saying "And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

If that's not enough, Saint Paul reiterates this in Acts 13:

""Men and brethren, sons of the family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the word of this salvation has been sent. For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him. And though they found no cause for death in Him, they asked Pilate that He should be put to death."

Yes, Christ died at the behest of the Jewish Pharisees, but anyone who thinks that was not according to Christ's preordained plan, and that he did not choose to die in the way that he died, is likely not a Christian. Indeed, the poster in question admitted as much.

And therein lies the issue. Anyone focused on who killed Jesus and using it as a cudgel to disparage the Jewish people, as your buddy did, is an antisemitic person. Christ is God. He chose his own death, and who would kill him. And but for that death, you and I and the rest of the Gentiles would be in real trouble. (Let's also not forget that Christ and his disciples were Jewish).

Anyone attempting to hold that against the Jews is a bigot, plain and simple. It's kind of shocking that you are defending such bigotry.

Christ died at the behest of the Jews. Not just the Pharisees. Not just the Sanhedrin. The Bible specifically says:

"And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

While nobody should use this as a cudgel to disparage Jewish people individually, it is an indictment of the Jewish religion, for what exists under the label of Judaism today is the continuation of the religion of the Pharisees.

No Christian should be a defender of Phariseeism under the label Judeo-Christian.

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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

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Hell, one of your buddies blames them for Jesus's death.


That is a documented fact of history recorded in the God inspired words of the New Testament in Luke 23:13-23:

"Then Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests, the rulers, and the people, said to them, "You have brought this Man to me, as one who misleads the people. And indeed, having examined Him in your presence, I have found no fault in this Man concerning those things of which you accuse Him; no, neither did Herod, for I sent you back to him; and indeed nothing deserving of death has been done by Him. I will therefore chastise Him and release Him" (for it was necessary for him to release one to them at the feast).

And they all cried out at once, saying, "Away with this Man, and release to us Barabbas" who had been thrown into prison for a certain rebellion made in the city, and for murder.

Pilate, therefore, wishing to release Jesus, again called out to them. But they shouted, saying, "Crucify Him, crucify Him!"

Then he said to them the third time, "Why, what evil has He done? I have found no reason for death in Him. I will therefore chastise Him and let Him go."

But they were insistent, demanding with loud voices that He be crucified. And the voices of these men and of the chief priests prevailed."

The Gospel of Matthew provides even more detail about their insistence, saying "And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

If that's not enough, Saint Paul reiterates this in Acts 13:

""Men and brethren, sons of the family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the word of this salvation has been sent. For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him. And though they found no cause for death in Him, they asked Pilate that He should be put to death."

Yes, Christ died at the behest of the Jewish Pharisees, but anyone who thinks that was not according to Christ's preordained plan, and that he did not choose to die in the way that he died, is likely not a Christian. Indeed, the poster in question admitted as much.

And therein lies the issue. Anyone focused on who killed Jesus and using it as a cudgel to disparage the Jewish people, as your buddy did, is an antisemitic person. Christ is God. He chose his own death, and who would kill him. And but for that death, you and I and the rest of the Gentiles would be in real trouble. (Let's also not forget that Christ and his disciples were Jewish).

Anyone attempting to hold that against the Jews is a bigot, plain and simple. It's kind of shocking that you are defending such bigotry.

Christ died at the behest of the Jews. Not just the Pharisees. Not just the Sanhedrin. The Bible specifically says:

"And all the people answered and said, "His blood be on us and on our children." (Matthew 27:25)

While nobody should use this as a cudgel to disparage Jewish people individually, it is an indictment of the Jewish religion, for what exists under the label of Judaism today is the continuation of the religion of the Pharisees.

No Christian should be a defender of Phariseeism under the label Judeo-Christian.

Indeed, the Pharisees had stirred up the crowd against Christ. But the idea that ALL Jews wanted Christ dead ignores the fact there were numerous converts among the Jews.

All religions that are opposed to Christ are wrong, not just the Jews. That does not mean Jews are still not a chosen people.
 
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