historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
And how many Libertarian candidates have won a presidential election in US history? None. None have ever come close. Is there any reason to believe one who could not even win his congressional primary could do it? Of course not. The idea is absurd.
If he were on that hypothetical stage righ those extremely hypothetical candidates (Ted Cruz is not going to run again), the worst who could do is help the fascist or commie win (like TR in 1912 or Perot in 1992). He still would lose. And by helping the ultra-radical Left gain power hd would solidify his position as one of the greatest traitors in American history.
Ted Cruz (or whichever hypothetical Republican you prefer) would be the one helping the left win in that scenario. He should step aside for a true conservative like Massie.
Very few conservatives agree with your perspective. Labeling Massie a "true conservative" is comical. He's more of a lone ranger mostly interested in himself and increasingly making bizarre public statements designed to alienate the voters. If that's not his purpose then he's a moron. Either way, his appeal is extremely narrow which takes me back to my previous conclusion: he is not a serious presidential contender.
Sam Lowry said:historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
And how many Libertarian candidates have won a presidential election in US history? None. None have ever come close. Is there any reason to believe one who could not even win his congressional primary could do it? Of course not. The idea is absurd.
If he were on that hypothetical stage righ those extremely hypothetical candidates (Ted Cruz is not going to run again), the worst who could do is help the fascist or commie win (like TR in 1912 or Perot in 1992). He still would lose. And by helping the ultra-radical Left gain power hd would solidify his position as one of the greatest traitors in American history.
Ted Cruz (or whichever hypothetical Republican you prefer) would be the one helping the left win in that scenario. He should step aside for a true conservative like Massie.
Very few conservatives agree with your perspective. Labeling Massie a "true conservative" is comical. He's more of a lone ranger mostly interested in himself and increasingly making bizarre public statements designed to alienate the voters. If that's not his purpose then he's a moron. Either way, his appeal is extremely narrow which takes me back to my previous conclusion: he is not a serious presidential contender.
Limited government, reduced spending, and a humble foreign policy sound pretty conservative to me. They sounded conservative to most people here when Trump was advocating them back in 2016. That was before he went full autocrat and MAGA turned into a personality cult. Very few self-proclaimed conservatives have any real principles.
historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
Sam Lowry said:historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
No true conservative would choose a violent insurrectionist, that much is sure.
historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
No true conservative would choose a violent insurrectionist, that much is sure.
That's why we reject Obama, Biden, and your other heroes. If you think you are referring to Trump you must know that all the Leftist myths about J6 have long since been disproven. Meanwhile, the fascist body count continues to rise: BLM, antifa, illegals immigrant rapists & murderers, Leftist terrorism, etc.
On top of all this, the fascists are still the party of the American Holocaust, the mass murder of millions of babies in the womb. That body count makes Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot look like amateurs, in terms of raw numbers. America's bloodthirsty modern day Mengele's are trying to compete with Mao's numbers.
My full interview with @ByronDonalds pic.twitter.com/qMylQMUAsx
— James Fishback (@j_fishback) July 26, 2026
historian said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
Yes, Trump is our president because millions of people voted for an outsider who promised to deliver on what they wanted. Then when in power he did several things that no previous leader had the courage or will even to attempt: moving our embassy to Jerusalem, forcing our trading partners snd our allies to cease taking advantage, closing our borders and deporting illegals, etc, etc. In addition, he appointed many judges that are more willing to follow the constitution, giving freedom and Justice loving Americans many real victories: Roe v Wade was overturned, affirmative action is gone, DEI is on the way out, same with trans, etc, etc.
Despite all his flaws and incomplete accomplishments, Trump has done more for America than any president since Reagan. No one else is even close.
As Victor Davis Hanson has pointed out, Trump is a counter revolutionary who is making significant strides in undoing and reversing the disasters of the past 60 years.
Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
This is truly is an apples to bowling balls comparison. Trump had his name on hotels all over the world and the highest rated show on TV for about a 5 year period before he decided to run. He was a pop culture icon.
Massie on the other hand…
It ain't happening. Pointing to Trump as a basis for the idea that Massie can win an election is just absurd. And I say that as someone who is much more aligned with Massie in my politics (save the anti-Jew positions).
Oldbear83 said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
And how many Libertarian candidates have won a presidential election in US history? None. None have ever come close. Is there any reason to believe one who could not even win his congressional primary could do it? Of course not. The idea is absurd.
If he were on that hypothetical stage righ those extremely hypothetical candidates (Ted Cruz is not going to run again), the worst who could do is help the fascist or commie win (like TR in 1912 or Perot in 1992). He still would lose. And by helping the ultra-radical Left gain power hd would solidify his position as one of the greatest traitors in American history.
Ted Cruz (or whichever hypothetical Republican you prefer) would be the one helping the left win in that scenario. He should step aside for a true conservative like Massie.
Very few conservatives agree with your perspective. Labeling Massie a "true conservative" is comical. He's more of a lone ranger mostly interested in himself and increasingly making bizarre public statements designed to alienate the voters. If that's not his purpose then he's a moron. Either way, his appeal is extremely narrow which takes me back to my previous conclusion: he is not a serious presidential contender.
Limited government, reduced spending, and a humble foreign policy sound pretty conservative to me. They sounded conservative to most people here when Trump was advocating them back in 2016. That was before he went full autocrat and MAGA turned into a personality cult. Very few self-proclaimed conservatives have any real principles.
OK, reverse that from the DNC meaning twister and see the truth here:
Limited government by getting rid of unneeded bureaucrats and career political activists, reduced spending by eliminating fraud and waste, and only taking action in foreign policy where American interests are at stake were all hallmarks of the first Trump term.
Democrats like Sam, horrified by both these concepts and their popularity with regular Americans, have doubled efforts to demonize these ideas by twisting them to claim they are 'autocracy' and a 'cult'.
But almost no conservatives have fallen for the Leftists lies, even as MSM media and career politicians build their hopes on such bilge.
But career politicians, especially the Left, have long ago thrown away principle.
BigGameBaylorBear said:Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
This is truly is an apples to bowling balls comparison. Trump had his name on hotels all over the world and the highest rated show on TV for about a 5 year period before he decided to run. He was a pop culture icon.
Massie on the other hand…
It ain't happening. Pointing to Trump as a basis for the idea that Massie can win an election is just absurd. And I say that as someone who is much more aligned with Massie in my politics (save the anti-Jew positions).
Yes… obviously Trump and Massie have different backgrounds. But one of you morons said Massie has a near zero percent chance of winning, when Trump began with similar odds. And Trump was a far more controversial figure going into his first election.
Also, we've all been kindly waiting for you to provide evidence that Massie is "anti-Jew".
The_barBEARian said:My full interview with @ByronDonalds pic.twitter.com/qMylQMUAsx
— James Fishback (@j_fishback) July 26, 2026
Sam Lowry said:historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
No true conservative would choose a violent insurrectionist, that much is sure.
That's why we reject Obama, Biden, and your other heroes. If you think you are referring to Trump you must know that all the Leftist myths about J6 have long since been disproven. Meanwhile, the fascist body count continues to rise: BLM, antifa, illegals immigrant rapists & murderers, Leftist terrorism, etc.
On top of all this, the fascists are still the party of the American Holocaust, the mass murder of millions of babies in the womb. That body count makes Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot look like amateurs, in terms of raw numbers. America's bloodthirsty modern day Mengele's are trying to compete with Mao's numbers.
Never voted Democrat, so your whatabouts are wasted. You've supported (at least) one more seditionist than I have.
Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
This is truly is an apples to bowling balls comparison. Trump had his name on hotels all over the world and the highest rated show on TV for about a 5 year period before he decided to run. He was a pop culture icon.
Massie on the other hand…
It ain't happening. Pointing to Trump as a basis for the idea that Massie can win an election is just absurd. And I say that as someone who is much more aligned with Massie in my politics (save the anti-Jew positions).
Yes… obviously Trump and Massie have different backgrounds. But one of you morons said Massie has a near zero percent chance of winning, when Trump began with similar odds. And Trump was a far more controversial figure going into his first election.
Also, we've all been kindly waiting for you to provide evidence that Massie is "anti-Jew".
So the only similarity in your comparison is people wrote both of them off?
LOL. Just take the L here. It was a ridiculous comparison and wishful thinking from the get go. Trump's success doesn't prove that Massie can or will be successful anymore than his success proves barbearian will get a girlfriend.
As for the anti-Jewish positions, I've already posted them. Of course you disagree, given you are a Massie fanboy. We will agree to disagree.
