historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
And how many Libertarian candidates have won a presidential election in US history? None. None have ever come close. Is there any reason to believe one who could not even win his congressional primary could do it? Of course not. The idea is absurd.
If he were on that hypothetical stage righ those extremely hypothetical candidates (Ted Cruz is not going to run again), the worst who could do is help the fascist or commie win (like TR in 1912 or Perot in 1992). He still would lose. And by helping the ultra-radical Left gain power hd would solidify his position as one of the greatest traitors in American history.
Ted Cruz (or whichever hypothetical Republican you prefer) would be the one helping the left win in that scenario. He should step aside for a true conservative like Massie.
Very few conservatives agree with your perspective. Labeling Massie a "true conservative" is comical. He's more of a lone ranger mostly interested in himself and increasingly making bizarre public statements designed to alienate the voters. If that's not his purpose then he's a moron. Either way, his appeal is extremely narrow which takes me back to my previous conclusion: he is not a serious presidential contender.
Sam Lowry said:historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
And how many Libertarian candidates have won a presidential election in US history? None. None have ever come close. Is there any reason to believe one who could not even win his congressional primary could do it? Of course not. The idea is absurd.
If he were on that hypothetical stage righ those extremely hypothetical candidates (Ted Cruz is not going to run again), the worst who could do is help the fascist or commie win (like TR in 1912 or Perot in 1992). He still would lose. And by helping the ultra-radical Left gain power hd would solidify his position as one of the greatest traitors in American history.
Ted Cruz (or whichever hypothetical Republican you prefer) would be the one helping the left win in that scenario. He should step aside for a true conservative like Massie.
Very few conservatives agree with your perspective. Labeling Massie a "true conservative" is comical. He's more of a lone ranger mostly interested in himself and increasingly making bizarre public statements designed to alienate the voters. If that's not his purpose then he's a moron. Either way, his appeal is extremely narrow which takes me back to my previous conclusion: he is not a serious presidential contender.
Limited government, reduced spending, and a humble foreign policy sound pretty conservative to me. They sounded conservative to most people here when Trump was advocating them back in 2016. That was before he went full autocrat and MAGA turned into a personality cult. Very few self-proclaimed conservatives have any real principles.
historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
Sam Lowry said:historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
No true conservative would choose a violent insurrectionist, that much is sure.
historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
No true conservative would choose a violent insurrectionist, that much is sure.
That's why we reject Obama, Biden, and your other heroes. If you think you are referring to Trump you must know that all the Leftist myths about J6 have long since been disproven. Meanwhile, the fascist body count continues to rise: BLM, antifa, illegals immigrant rapists & murderers, Leftist terrorism, etc.
On top of all this, the fascists are still the party of the American Holocaust, the mass murder of millions of babies in the womb. That body count makes Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot look like amateurs, in terms of raw numbers. America's bloodthirsty modern day Mengele's are trying to compete with Mao's numbers.
My full interview with @ByronDonalds pic.twitter.com/qMylQMUAsx
— James Fishback (@j_fishback) July 26, 2026
historian said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
Yes, Trump is our president because millions of people voted for an outsider who promised to deliver on what they wanted. Then when in power he did several things that no previous leader had the courage or will even to attempt: moving our embassy to Jerusalem, forcing our trading partners snd our allies to cease taking advantage, closing our borders and deporting illegals, etc, etc. In addition, he appointed many judges that are more willing to follow the constitution, giving freedom and Justice loving Americans many real victories: Roe v Wade was overturned, affirmative action is gone, DEI is on the way out, same with trans, etc, etc.
Despite all his flaws and incomplete accomplishments, Trump has done more for America than any president since Reagan. No one else is even close.
As Victor Davis Hanson has pointed out, Trump is a counter revolutionary who is making significant strides in undoing and reversing the disasters of the past 60 years.
Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
This is truly is an apples to bowling balls comparison. Trump had his name on hotels all over the world and the highest rated show on TV for about a 5 year period before he decided to run. He was a pop culture icon.
Massie on the other hand…
It ain't happening. Pointing to Trump as a basis for the idea that Massie can win an election is just absurd. And I say that as someone who is much more aligned with Massie in my politics (save the anti-Jew positions).
Oldbear83 said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
And how many Libertarian candidates have won a presidential election in US history? None. None have ever come close. Is there any reason to believe one who could not even win his congressional primary could do it? Of course not. The idea is absurd.
If he were on that hypothetical stage righ those extremely hypothetical candidates (Ted Cruz is not going to run again), the worst who could do is help the fascist or commie win (like TR in 1912 or Perot in 1992). He still would lose. And by helping the ultra-radical Left gain power hd would solidify his position as one of the greatest traitors in American history.
Ted Cruz (or whichever hypothetical Republican you prefer) would be the one helping the left win in that scenario. He should step aside for a true conservative like Massie.
Very few conservatives agree with your perspective. Labeling Massie a "true conservative" is comical. He's more of a lone ranger mostly interested in himself and increasingly making bizarre public statements designed to alienate the voters. If that's not his purpose then he's a moron. Either way, his appeal is extremely narrow which takes me back to my previous conclusion: he is not a serious presidential contender.
Limited government, reduced spending, and a humble foreign policy sound pretty conservative to me. They sounded conservative to most people here when Trump was advocating them back in 2016. That was before he went full autocrat and MAGA turned into a personality cult. Very few self-proclaimed conservatives have any real principles.
OK, reverse that from the DNC meaning twister and see the truth here:
Limited government by getting rid of unneeded bureaucrats and career political activists, reduced spending by eliminating fraud and waste, and only taking action in foreign policy where American interests are at stake were all hallmarks of the first Trump term.
Democrats like Sam, horrified by both these concepts and their popularity with regular Americans, have doubled efforts to demonize these ideas by twisting them to claim they are 'autocracy' and a 'cult'.
But almost no conservatives have fallen for the Leftists lies, even as MSM media and career politicians build their hopes on such bilge.
But career politicians, especially the Left, have long ago thrown away principle.
BigGameBaylorBear said:Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
This is truly is an apples to bowling balls comparison. Trump had his name on hotels all over the world and the highest rated show on TV for about a 5 year period before he decided to run. He was a pop culture icon.
Massie on the other hand…
It ain't happening. Pointing to Trump as a basis for the idea that Massie can win an election is just absurd. And I say that as someone who is much more aligned with Massie in my politics (save the anti-Jew positions).
Yes… obviously Trump and Massie have different backgrounds. But one of you morons said Massie has a near zero percent chance of winning, when Trump began with similar odds. And Trump was a far more controversial figure going into his first election.
Also, we've all been kindly waiting for you to provide evidence that Massie is "anti-Jew".
The_barBEARian said:My full interview with @ByronDonalds pic.twitter.com/qMylQMUAsx
— James Fishback (@j_fishback) July 26, 2026
Sam Lowry said:historian said:Sam Lowry said:historian said:
As if a handful of conservatives on these boards would fall for it or have enough power to choose a national candidate!
No true conservative would choose a violent insurrectionist, that much is sure.
That's why we reject Obama, Biden, and your other heroes. If you think you are referring to Trump you must know that all the Leftist myths about J6 have long since been disproven. Meanwhile, the fascist body count continues to rise: BLM, antifa, illegals immigrant rapists & murderers, Leftist terrorism, etc.
On top of all this, the fascists are still the party of the American Holocaust, the mass murder of millions of babies in the womb. That body count makes Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot look like amateurs, in terms of raw numbers. America's bloodthirsty modern day Mengele's are trying to compete with Mao's numbers.
Never voted Democrat, so your whatabouts are wasted. You've supported (at least) one more seditionist than I have.
Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
This is truly is an apples to bowling balls comparison. Trump had his name on hotels all over the world and the highest rated show on TV for about a 5 year period before he decided to run. He was a pop culture icon.
Massie on the other hand…
It ain't happening. Pointing to Trump as a basis for the idea that Massie can win an election is just absurd. And I say that as someone who is much more aligned with Massie in my politics (save the anti-Jew positions).
Yes… obviously Trump and Massie have different backgrounds. But one of you morons said Massie has a near zero percent chance of winning, when Trump began with similar odds. And Trump was a far more controversial figure going into his first election.
Also, we've all been kindly waiting for you to provide evidence that Massie is "anti-Jew".
So the only similarity in your comparison is people wrote both of them off?
LOL. Just take the L here. It was a ridiculous comparison and wishful thinking from the get go. Trump's success doesn't prove that Massie can or will be successful anymore than his success proves barbearian will get a girlfriend.
As for the anti-Jewish positions, I've already posted them. Of course you disagree, given you are a Massie fanboy. We will agree to disagree.
It's not racist to observe that every single, every single teenager was black. Every single teenager on Sunday was black.
— James Fishback (@j_fishback) July 27, 2026
If we want to save black lives in the state of Florida, we have to confront the truth. pic.twitter.com/Doslc09DYR
muddybrazos said:historian said:Mothra said:The_barBEARian said:Mothra said:Realitybites said:historian said:
Tucker is no longer a Republican. If he talks and acts like a Dem / fascist, he probably is a Dem / fascist.
You Boomercons have lost your minds.
Do you agree with Tucker that Trump may be the anti-Christ? Do you agree with him that Islamic terrorism isn't really as bad as it's made out to be?
Do you agree with Satanyahu that America exists because of the "Hebrew" bible?
Its stolen valor... none of the founding fathers were jews but they have to claim they were responsible for America's success because they cant have those pesky goys running around looking like they were granted more providence than "God's Chosen"... its a bad look for all the dispensationalists
Shia Islamic terrorism is greatly exaggerated.
99% of Islamic terrorism in the west is Sunni and largely Wahhabism funded by Saudi.
To the extent that it what Netanyahu said or suggested, no.
Now how about my question?
Muslims killed over 4k Christians last year alone, just FYI. They are the largest purveyor of religious terrorism in the world today, and it's not even close.
Muslims have been the largest purveyors of religious terrorism for 1,400 years except a brief interregnum when their buddy Hitler was killing millions of Jews, Gypsies, etc. The only other major exception I can think of (there probably are others) were the native people's of America (Aztecs, Mayans, etc) whose religion was centered on human sacrifice, sometimes on a large scale.
The Bolsheviks killed probably 10x what the nazis did. The Holodomor alone was more than the 6milion number.
muddybrazos said:It's not racist to observe that every single, every single teenager was black. Every single teenager on Sunday was black.
— James Fishback (@j_fishback) July 27, 2026
If we want to save black lives in the state of Florida, we have to confront the truth. pic.twitter.com/Doslc09DYR
I have to give it to Fishback bc he is based and not afraid to tell the truth. We need more people standing up and committing to stopping teen takeovers and black violence in our cities.
historian said:
Massie is loudly and repeatedly opposed to Israel. Opposition to Israel, the only Jewish state in the world, is anti-Jewish. That should be obvious.
historian said:
Correct. We are not going to do enough about crime if we cannot be honest about it.
BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
Yes, Trump is our president because millions of people voted for an outsider who promised to deliver on what they wanted. Then when in power he did several things that no previous leader had the courage or will even to attempt: moving our embassy to Jerusalem, forcing our trading partners snd our allies to cease taking advantage, closing our borders and deporting illegals, etc, etc. In addition, he appointed many judges that are more willing to follow the constitution, giving freedom and Justice loving Americans many real victories: Roe v Wade was overturned, affirmative action is gone, DEI is on the way out, same with trans, etc, etc.
Despite all his flaws and incomplete accomplishments, Trump has done more for America than any president since Reagan. No one else is even close.
As Victor Davis Hanson has pointed out, Trump is a counter revolutionary who is making significant strides in undoing and reversing the disasters of the past 60 years.
Thanks for the laugh. Second term is total utter failure.
Gas over $4, extremely unpopular war that will most likely extend into 2027, increasing deficit, Epstein, tariffs overturned….
The_barBEARian said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
Yes, Trump is our president because millions of people voted for an outsider who promised to deliver on what they wanted. Then when in power he did several things that no previous leader had the courage or will even to attempt: moving our embassy to Jerusalem, forcing our trading partners snd our allies to cease taking advantage, closing our borders and deporting illegals, etc, etc. In addition, he appointed many judges that are more willing to follow the constitution, giving freedom and Justice loving Americans many real victories: Roe v Wade was overturned, affirmative action is gone, DEI is on the way out, same with trans, etc, etc.
Despite all his flaws and incomplete accomplishments, Trump has done more for America than any president since Reagan. No one else is even close.
As Victor Davis Hanson has pointed out, Trump is a counter revolutionary who is making significant strides in undoing and reversing the disasters of the past 60 years.
Thanks for the laugh. Second term is total utter failure.
Gas over $4, extremely unpopular war that will most likely extend into 2027, increasing deficit, Epstein, tariffs overturned….
Notice how moving the American embassy to Jerusalem was the top of historian's list. Glad to see his priorities are straight!
Mothra said:The_barBEARian said:My full interview with @ByronDonalds pic.twitter.com/qMylQMUAsx
— James Fishback (@j_fishback) July 26, 2026
Thanks for the laugh.
Doc Holliday said:muddybrazos said:historian said:Mothra said:The_barBEARian said:Mothra said:Realitybites said:historian said:
Tucker is no longer a Republican. If he talks and acts like a Dem / fascist, he probably is a Dem / fascist.
You Boomercons have lost your minds.
Do you agree with Tucker that Trump may be the anti-Christ? Do you agree with him that Islamic terrorism isn't really as bad as it's made out to be?
Do you agree with Satanyahu that America exists because of the "Hebrew" bible?
Its stolen valor... none of the founding fathers were jews but they have to claim they were responsible for America's success because they cant have those pesky goys running around looking like they were granted more providence than "God's Chosen"... its a bad look for all the dispensationalists
Shia Islamic terrorism is greatly exaggerated.
99% of Islamic terrorism in the west is Sunni and largely Wahhabism funded by Saudi.
To the extent that it what Netanyahu said or suggested, no.
Now how about my question?
Muslims killed over 4k Christians last year alone, just FYI. They are the largest purveyor of religious terrorism in the world today, and it's not even close.
Muslims have been the largest purveyors of religious terrorism for 1,400 years except a brief interregnum when their buddy Hitler was killing millions of Jews, Gypsies, etc. The only other major exception I can think of (there probably are others) were the native people's of America (Aztecs, Mayans, etc) whose religion was centered on human sacrifice, sometimes on a large scale.
The Bolsheviks killed probably 10x what the nazis did. The Holodomor alone was more than the 6milion number.
Way worse. They killed Orthodox Christians making them the most persecuted Christians and religious group in history. More Christians were martyred in the 20th century under Soviet rule than in all previous centuries combined.
Over 100k Orthodox clergy, monastics, and lay leaders were executed in a single two year wave during the Great Purge alone. Over 200,000 clergy were murdered, and millions of Orthodox believers perished in the Gulag system or in state executions. By 1939, out of 54,000 churches, barely 500 remained open...
And most Christians don't even realize this. That's how bad propaganda is in the west, we don't teach it in our schools, universities, nor is it common knowledge to even different types of Christians in the US.
“About 80% to 85% of the first Soviet government was Jewish.”
— Bryce M. Lipscomb (@BryceMLipscomb) July 25, 2026
-Vladimir Putin pic.twitter.com/yUHlPPdiPl
historian said:
Of course it is. Criticism is not the same as opposition but opposition takes it further and Massie has been consistent in his opposition to Israel.
“We have the right to criticize not only our government, but Israel’s government as well. This is America 🇺🇸.”
— Bryce M. Lipscomb (@BryceMLipscomb) July 19, 2026
-Tucker Carlson pic.twitter.com/37XNoEKRD1
historian said:
Tucker is no Everyman. He's a fringe radical figure, increasingly out of touch with reality and an antisemite.
It's very bizarre why a candidate running for Governor of Ohio is so passionate about providing aid to Israel. https://t.co/p0CF5uwKqO
— James Li (@5149jamesli) July 28, 2026
BigGameBaylorBear said:Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:Mothra said:BigGameBaylorBear said:historian said:muddybrazos said:🚨BREAKING: Thomas Massie is reportedly seriously considering a presidential run in 2028. pic.twitter.com/ECq9Z0m0iQ
— Dr.Sam Youssef Ph.D.,Ph.D.,DPT. (@drhossamsamy65) July 23, 2026
No way he could win but go for it, bro.
There is nothing serious about that proposition. He's more of a fringe politician who cannot attract masses of voters from various demographics and regions. Besides, a candidate who loses a primary in his own district will not have much national appeal. He would be lucky to be around on Super Tuesday.
You say this as Donald Trump is literally our sitting President…
This is truly is an apples to bowling balls comparison. Trump had his name on hotels all over the world and the highest rated show on TV for about a 5 year period before he decided to run. He was a pop culture icon.
Massie on the other hand…
It ain't happening. Pointing to Trump as a basis for the idea that Massie can win an election is just absurd. And I say that as someone who is much more aligned with Massie in my politics (save the anti-Jew positions).
Yes… obviously Trump and Massie have different backgrounds. But one of you morons said Massie has a near zero percent chance of winning, when Trump began with similar odds. And Trump was a far more controversial figure going into his first election.
Also, we've all been kindly waiting for you to provide evidence that Massie is "anti-Jew".
So the only similarity in your comparison is people wrote both of them off?
LOL. Just take the L here. It was a ridiculous comparison and wishful thinking from the get go. Trump's success doesn't prove that Massie can or will be successful anymore than his success proves barbearian will get a girlfriend.
As for the anti-Jewish positions, I've already posted them. Of course you disagree, given you are a Massie fanboy. We will agree to disagree.
Yes…? That was what I said from the get-go. Donald Trump is infinitely more absurd than Thomas Massie.
And you've never provided proof of anti-Jewish positions. Critical of Israel doesn't make you antisemitic unless your criticisms employ anti-jewish prejudice. None of his statements have done that.
