Minneapolis ICE shooting

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Mitch Blood Green said:

None of us want to be treated the way ICE is treating people. The agency was better run and more effective a year ago with less funds.

None of us want to be a country where the government intentionally creates fear for its citizens. That's what we've become.


Nah, I want them to be scared. A bit of fear = law & order
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Mitch Blood Green said:

None of us want to be treated the way ICE is treating people. The agency was better run and more effective a year ago with less funds.

None of us want to be a country where the government intentionally creates fear for its citizens. That's what we've become.

Complete horsecrap.

ICE is enforcing valid and established law.

That you oppose it says a lot about you.

You despise the good and would protect the criminals.

You are contemptible.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

None of us want to be treated the way ICE is treating people. The agency was better run and more effective a year ago with less funds.




As hyper partisan as you are ; you would willingly allow thousands of illegal felons to still be roaming throughout our country.

Murdering , raping , human trafficking and killing innocent Americans on the highways.

A price you were willing to pay to eventually produce millions of additional Democrat voters.

Little wonder ' Biden earned your vote '.

No one can fix such a sick sense of priorities. So I can only wonder if karma can fix it for you.
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Can we just trade Minnesota to Canada in exchange for Alberta?

Minnesota can be absorbed into Ontario, and we can make Alberta the new 50th state.
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Robert Wilson said:

Can we just trade Minnesota to Canada in exchange for Alberta?

Minnesota can be absorbed into Ontario, and we can make Alberta the new 50th state.

We'd probably need to throw in a few shekels for them to redesign USBank Stadium to fit a 110 yard CFL field.
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Frank Galvin said:

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That Cowgirl tart said it was domestic terrorism 10min after the incident. Eff ICE, Eff True, Eff Annie Oakley, Eff the Pole Dancer for conducting what will be a sham investigation with her puppet master pulling the strings. Everyone has seen the video. That chit should not happen in the US.. Every ICE Agent who stood by and watched and the one who told the Dr. he could not render aid as the lady lay dying should be fired today. ICE needs to GTFO of cities. If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. The Minneapolis Mayor had it right . ICE. "Get the Eff Out". ole Hammerskin Hank and the rest of the jack booted Brown Shirts should go eff off tool. Roll the Tanks, Hank!


Were you this outraged when Ashli Babbitt got shot?

How is this any different?

If this was the FBI killing people over anti-Israel demonstrations or the IRS invading someone's home and shooting them dead bcs they didnt pay taxes to a corrupt government who doesnt represent them... I'd agree with the reactionary sentiment to fight to the death.

Instead, this is a dumb ***** was fighting ICE over the deportation of Somali con-artists who have stolen billions from the American tax payer.

Learn to choose your battles.


What is different is that the woman was shot trying to leave while Babbit was shot trying to enter.

Guess what - if you are being detained or given an order by a law-enforcement officer, you aren't allowed to simply ignore it and "leave" and you certainly aren't allowed to willfully to drive a vehicle at a law enforcement officer regardless of the speed of the vehicle. And it's just as much breaking the law as trying to forcefully enter a restricted building, facility, or area.

I didn't say she shouldn't be arrested.

Regular police deal with difficult people thousands of times a day, every day. Incidents like yesterday are exceedingly rare, becuase regular police are good at deescalating. ICE is the opposite. If you do not immediately obey the masked, ambiguously marked "law enforcement" they immediately ratchet up the intimidation. It is poor policing and it leads to results like yesterday.

Where do you think the woman was looking when she depressed the accelerator? I think she was looking at the guy to her immediate left trying to force his way into her car. Decent chance she never even saw the shooter, let alone "aimed at him."




Then she is even more of an idiot. You do not accelerate without looking in front of you. You don't drive but look to the side. That is car driving 101.

As to ICE not deescalating things that is because the paid agitators they are dealing with will not listen to reason or lawful commands.

ICE casues her to panic, shoots her, and then says-hey don't panic. Great logic. Professional law enforcement does not work that way. De-escalate first.

She should have been cited for a traffic violation and maybe arrested for evading arrest if she did not stop after moving her car. Shooting her was ridiculous.

Paid agitators? Thanks George Wallace.




Yes paid agitators. That is why these protests all start at the same time across multiple cities/states with the exact same professionally made signs, vests, radios, etc.



Well this paid agitator happened to live a few blocks from the incident. What a coincidence. Or maybe she was just concerned with what is going on her neighborhood.

And so she drove her car to the site because.........?

Her ex-husband siad it was because she was on her way home from dropping a child at school.

Did Whoopi interview him in a seance?



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Robert Wilson said:

Can we just trade Minnesota to Canada in exchange for Alberta?

Minnesota can be absorbed into Ontario, and we can make Alberta the new 50th state.

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Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

Full bull***** Complete utter fabrication, a Lie's lie that can only be wrought from accepting the bull**** propagated by interested parties. In the fourth video (street view opposite), she is about to leave before the ICE agents ever arrive, but a car comes in front of her and she waives it past. Then more ICE agents arrive and approach.

In all three back view videos, when the first two ICE agents approach she puts the car in reverse to back away from them and re-angle the car toward the open street.

In all three of the behind view videos her front tires are turned away from Agents 1 and 2 and toward the street. It is agent 3, the shooter, who interposes himself in front of her car, then as she is beginning to leave, shoots her. She does not 'rev' the car, or aim it at him, she starts slowly and aims it away. By the time he shoots, Agent 3 (shooter) is nearly out of the way, and could have been out of the way and out of harm from the first second he became involved.

Not one of the agents is hurt. Not even in the slightest. "Will recover" what crap. They have nothing to recover from. All four are fully ambulatory. No 3 (shooter) continues to chase her. No one grabs a limb in pain or does anything else to illustrate even the possibility of an injury.

In fact, they're stunned that Agent 3 pulled the trigger. Agent 1 (rear behind the guy at the door) jumps at the shot it is so unexpected, and agent 4 stumbles and falls in surprise from it. Neither were expecting it, because no one would be under these circumstances.

The car proceeds down the road where it is aimed--away from all ICE officers.

In all four films there are no injured agents. None have fallen. None limp or show common reactions to the pain of an injury. All four are fully ambulatory.

WATCH THE ****ING VIDEOS BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR PIECE OF *****




Liar. Again, the video shows she HIT THE AGENT! You don't get to hit an officer of the law if it only hurts them a little bit, you idiot. She hit the agent with the car! It's on video! You idiot leftists have ZERO integrity.


Side view, she did not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1440&impolicy=high_res
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1713 Baylor said:

Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

Full bull***** Complete utter fabrication, a Lie's lie that can only be wrought from accepting the bull**** propagated by interested parties. In the fourth video (street view opposite), she is about to leave before the ICE agents ever arrive, but a car comes in front of her and she waives it past. Then more ICE agents arrive and approach.

In all three back view videos, when the first two ICE agents approach she puts the car in reverse to back away from them and re-angle the car toward the open street.

In all three of the behind view videos her front tires are turned away from Agents 1 and 2 and toward the street. It is agent 3, the shooter, who interposes himself in front of her car, then as she is beginning to leave, shoots her. She does not 'rev' the car, or aim it at him, she starts slowly and aims it away. By the time he shoots, Agent 3 (shooter) is nearly out of the way, and could have been out of the way and out of harm from the first second he became involved.

Not one of the agents is hurt. Not even in the slightest. "Will recover" what crap. They have nothing to recover from. All four are fully ambulatory. No 3 (shooter) continues to chase her. No one grabs a limb in pain or does anything else to illustrate even the possibility of an injury.

In fact, they're stunned that Agent 3 pulled the trigger. Agent 1 (rear behind the guy at the door) jumps at the shot it is so unexpected, and agent 4 stumbles and falls in surprise from it. Neither were expecting it, because no one would be under these circumstances.

The car proceeds down the road where it is aimed--away from all ICE officers.

In all four films there are no injured agents. None have fallen. None limp or show common reactions to the pain of an injury. All four are fully ambulatory.

WATCH THE ****ING VIDEOS BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR PIECE OF *****





Liar. Again, the video shows she HIT THE AGENT! You don't get to hit an officer of the law if it only hurts them a little bit, you idiot. She hit the agent with the car! It's on video! You idiot leftists have ZERO integrity.


Side view, she did not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1440&impolicy=high_res

Officer at the front corner of the suv looks contacted.
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1713 Baylor said:

Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

Full bull***** Complete utter fabrication, a Lie's lie that can only be wrought from accepting the bull**** propagated by interested parties. In the fourth video (street view opposite), she is about to leave before the ICE agents ever arrive, but a car comes in front of her and she waives it past. Then more ICE agents arrive and approach.

In all three back view videos, when the first two ICE agents approach she puts the car in reverse to back away from them and re-angle the car toward the open street.

In all three of the behind view videos her front tires are turned away from Agents 1 and 2 and toward the street. It is agent 3, the shooter, who interposes himself in front of her car, then as she is beginning to leave, shoots her. She does not 'rev' the car, or aim it at him, she starts slowly and aims it away. By the time he shoots, Agent 3 (shooter) is nearly out of the way, and could have been out of the way and out of harm from the first second he became involved.

Not one of the agents is hurt. Not even in the slightest. "Will recover" what crap. They have nothing to recover from. All four are fully ambulatory. No 3 (shooter) continues to chase her. No one grabs a limb in pain or does anything else to illustrate even the possibility of an injury.

In fact, they're stunned that Agent 3 pulled the trigger. Agent 1 (rear behind the guy at the door) jumps at the shot it is so unexpected, and agent 4 stumbles and falls in surprise from it. Neither were expecting it, because no one would be under these circumstances.

The car proceeds down the road where it is aimed--away from all ICE officers.

In all four films there are no injured agents. None have fallen. None limp or show common reactions to the pain of an injury. All four are fully ambulatory.

WATCH THE ****ING VIDEOS BEFORE YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR PIECE OF *****




Liar. Again, the video shows she HIT THE AGENT! You don't get to hit an officer of the law if it only hurts them a little bit, you idiot. She hit the agent with the car! It's on video! You idiot leftists have ZERO integrity.


Side view, she did not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1440&impolicy=high_res
Sorry, the video I provided shows, in slow motion and highlighted, the officer who was hit by her vehicle, so your still shots are absolutely unconvincing to anyone who can see.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

None of us want to be treated the way ICE is treating people. The agency was better run and more effective a year ago with less funds.

None of us want to be a country where the government intentionally creates fear for its citizens. That's what we've become.

ICE is treating illegals the way they treated our boarders.


Not one American citizen lives in fear of ICE. ICE creates fear in the illegals that are living here.
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Nope, you are still lying, desperate photo editing notwithstanding
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GrowlTowel said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

None of us want to be treated the way ICE is treating people. The agency was better run and more effective a year ago with less funds.

None of us want to be a country where the government intentionally creates fear for its citizens. That's what we've become.

ICE is treating illegals the way they treated our boarders.


Not one American citizen lives in fear of ICE. ICE creates fear in the illegals that are living here.


Years ago had a neighbor who was head of the Border Patrol in the El Paso , Texas sector.

I was terrified 24 / 7 .


LOL
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Robert Wilson said:

TechDawgMc said:

Robert Wilson said:

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STxBear81 said:

i dont think the car was traveling fast but i dont know the whole story of this lady...i wouldn't mess with federsl authorities in first place. F around and find out i guess

There is video from another angle. He did get hit by the car to a lesser degree. Did it warrant being gunned down? Unsure...

If she just complied. She would still be alive. It is as easy as that. That is for sure.

The videos are somewhat ambiguous if you're not 100% convinced one way or another before you view them.

That said, in baseball, the tie goes to the runner. In a police / civilian confrontation, the tie goes to the police officer who is in front of your car while you're accelerating. He can't be required to just sit there and think "Boy, I hope she turns off this enough that it doesn't hurt me too badly." I mean, the woman was crazy enough to be driving around in the middle of the police officers in the first place with an intent to obstruct their activities. You're not really trusting her judgment at that point.

No he can't be required to just stand there, but by the time she started moving forward, he could have simply moved out of the way with a step or two. It's not clear whether she even knew he was there.

While she may have deserved to be arrested, that does not look like grounds for killing someone. It looks like reckless police work.

Depending on which video you look at, it looks to me like she did hit him. Glancing blow. He was moving one way, she was turning the other (which became more apparent as and after he shot than it was when he pulled the weapon), but at the moment he shot he was in front of her car and about to be (and was) hit. It was a bang-bang play, as they say.

I tend to think he should've just bailed out of the way and did not have to shoot her, but I'm also not the one who was in front of the moving car driven by a lady whose mere presence at that place and time tells me she's got particularly bad judgment.

This seems to be accurate. He maybe barely got hit, certainly nothing that would leave a scratch or bruise.

And also true, it seems unlikely that he knew the lady was trying to get away. Just a sad situation.

The lady didn't really deserve to die imo, but the officer shouldn't be blamed. He should have shown more restraint but I dont blame him for not, if this lady had been acting threateningly for hours.
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KaiBear said:

GrowlTowel said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

None of us want to be treated the way ICE is treating people. The agency was better run and more effective a year ago with less funds.

None of us want to be a country where the government intentionally creates fear for its citizens. That's what we've become.

ICE is treating illegals the way they treated our boarders.


Not one American citizen lives in fear of ICE. ICE creates fear in the illegals that are living here.


Years ago had a neighbor who was head of the Border Patrol in the El Paso , Texas sector.

I was terrified 24 / 7 .


LOL


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Luv Mexican music.

Especially with a beer in my hand.
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Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

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Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

Deny this;



I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

LOL.

She has far more credibility than you do.

Secretary Noem's comments yesterday were that the ICE vehicle was stuck in the snow and that the victim tried to run them over while they were pushing the vehicle out of the snow. The Secreatry's version of events is completely divorced from the video. She got awful information and ran with it (BTW, Tom Homan rightly criticized her for doing so). She has no credibility.

Here is what Kristi Noem actually said, in her own words, unedited with audible questions from reporters.
Facts matter;
https://www.youtube.com/live/iQ2oS_KPBVY?si=8QpxGCQCNvwJk7VX

This is what i was talking about.

https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/dhs-secretary-noem-says-deadly-ice-involved-shooting-was-result-of-act-of-domestic-terrorism/5187327

Yes, the one she gave at the border right after it happened was not correct. The one she gave at the press conference, that I linked, fits what we see in the video.

"We" don't see a domestic terrorist, an attempt to run over someone, or harrasment or impeding of ICE in the video. She was trying to leave the scene by turning left, opposite the way ICE was traveleing. When she could not, she waived ICE past her. Neithe rof those fit the desctiption Noem gives.

We also do not see someone followng law enforcement training. The advancing officers were overly aggressive and wanted her out of the car for no apparent reason. They gave her zero time to comply with their orders before taking action. The shooter was taking cell phone footage and wandered in front of the vehicle, which is likely why he panicked and shot rather than just getting out of the way.

I do want to know why the car was parked as it was on the street and if the victim had interacted with ICE before the incident. But it is hard to imagine that she did so in a threatening way given how the agents conducted themselves.

Denying the facts you dislike doesn't make them disappear. We see someone attempt to murder an immigration officer after impeding their lawful duties and ignoring their lawful commands. Whatever ridiculous ideas about her fearing ICE too much to comply is dispelled by the fact she was previously harassing them. If she were just an innocent victim as you claim, she would have to be the dumbest human on earth.

She didn't attempt to do anything other than get away from the masked, cursing man trying to get into her car.

Everyone keeps saying she was "harassing" ICE and impeding them-present tense. That is not what the video shows, although it suggests that she had impeded them--past tense. Which is why I would like some evidence of her prior activities. Actual evidence, not the conclusuions of the pathological liars who comprise our country's current leadership.

Video from the scene shows Renee Good's wife, Rebecca Brown Good, in distress immediately after the shooting, saying that she encouraged Renee to attend the location where ICE agents were operating.

Source

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GrowlTowel said:

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Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Wangchung said:

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Wangchung said:

1713 Baylor said:

I've watched all four films. Took two hours to back them up, re-run them, stop in place, repeat as necessary to make sure I understood exactly what was happening. This was murder, plain and simple, and entirely avoidable.

90% of the people on this forum, haven't watched the videos, maybe more, or they wouldn't be saying the assinine **** they're saying.

This is a Warren-T Rat moment: "who you gonna believe, me or your own eyes?' You guys are choosing to believe the bull**** and refusing to open your own eyes.

That's a straight lie that's easily refuted by video. SHE HIT THE ICE AGENT BEFORE SHE WAS SHOT. You're simply lying.

Except the video doesn't refute it. Its hard to tell, but you would have us beleive that two officers who were not hit by an SUV slipped on the street but the guy who was hit didn't even budge?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renee-nicole-good-minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-caring-neighbor-rcna252901

Deny this;



I don't see the contact in the second angle. But even if she grazed him, it happened bcause ICE did awful police work. First, they should have just driven around her as she invited them to do. Second, they should not have rushed her car or cursed at her. Third, the shooter should never have been in front of the car in the first place.

You don't see his leg being hit? No, you don't WANT to see it. It's right in front of your face.

It's not as obvious as you think, but watching it again, yes the second angle looks like she grazed him. Which changes nothing, He should not have been there, Sshe likely did not see him, and teh whole thing would have been avoided if ICE had simpley driven around her, whihc they had ample space, opportunity and an invitation to do.

She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law. ICE had every right to detain her. She had no right to run. She had no right to hit the agent with her vehicle.

"She was chasing and harassing ICE agents who were enforcing the law"-source? Becuase the video shows her asking them to drive around her.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

LOL.

She has far more credibility than you do.

Secretary Noem's comments yesterday were that the ICE vehicle was stuck in the snow and that the victim tried to run them over while they were pushing the vehicle out of the snow. The Secreatry's version of events is completely divorced from the video. She got awful information and ran with it (BTW, Tom Homan rightly criticized her for doing so). She has no credibility.

Here is what Kristi Noem actually said, in her own words, unedited with audible questions from reporters.
Facts matter;
https://www.youtube.com/live/iQ2oS_KPBVY?si=8QpxGCQCNvwJk7VX

This is what i was talking about.

https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/dhs-secretary-noem-says-deadly-ice-involved-shooting-was-result-of-act-of-domestic-terrorism/5187327

Yes, the one she gave at the border right after it happened was not correct. The one she gave at the press conference, that I linked, fits what we see in the video.

"We" don't see a domestic terrorist, an attempt to run over someone, or harrasment or impeding of ICE in the video. She was trying to leave the scene by turning left, opposite the way ICE was traveleing. When she could not, she waived ICE past her. Neithe rof those fit the desctiption Noem gives.

We also do not see someone followng law enforcement training. The advancing officers were overly aggressive and wanted her out of the car for no apparent reason. They gave her zero time to comply with their orders before taking action. The shooter was taking cell phone footage and wandered in front of the vehicle, which is likely why he panicked and shot rather than just getting out of the way.

I do want to know why the car was parked as it was on the street and if the victim had interacted with ICE before the incident. But it is hard to imagine that she did so in a threatening way given how the agents conducted themselves.

Denying the facts you dislike doesn't make them disappear. We see someone attempt to murder an immigration officer after impeding their lawful duties and ignoring their lawful commands. Whatever ridiculous ideas about her fearing ICE too much to comply is dispelled by the fact she was previously harassing them. If she were just an innocent victim as you claim, she would have to be the dumbest human on earth.

She didn't attempt to do anything other than get away from the masked, cursing man trying to get into her car.

Everyone keeps saying she was "harassing" ICE and impeding them-present tense. That is not what the video shows, although it suggests that she had impeded them--past tense. Which is why I would like some evidence of her prior activities. Actual evidence, not the conclusuions of the pathological liars who comprise our country's current leadership.

Video from the scene shows Renee Good's wife, Rebecca Brown Good, in distress immediately after the shooting, saying that she encouraged Renee to attend the location where ICE agents were operating.

Source




No surprise.

None.
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White liberal lesbians lol who would have thought
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I read that the ICE agent had been attacked earlier this year. He was probably on edge and willing to defend himself at the slightest issue.

I still wouldn't interfere or disobey a police officer or federal agent. That's just asking for trouble.
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Apparently her spouse told her to go there, and harass the agents.
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Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp


"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.
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Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp


"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.


I was server at Olive Garden my senior year. 5 days of training.
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Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

Ah yes......the private school snob factor.


' We' are better than that poor schmuck risking his ass trying to enforce existing immigration laws.

Thanks Mom and Dad !



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Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.
Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.
Oldbear83
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Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.

Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.

So all you got is lies and spite.

And sorry you lost the Olive Garden gig.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.

Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.

So all you got is lies and spite.

And sorry you lost the Olive Garden gig.

ICE broke several policies and laws.

1. The shooter walked in front of a running vehicle. That isn't just against code. That is moronic. He was to the left of her vehicle She turned to the right.
2. They had no reason to detain her when they tried to force her way into her vehicle.
3. They blocked medical help.
4. They fled the crime scene.

Not to mention that she executed a K turn to leave the scene. Not exactly a maneuver you make when trying to commit vehicular homicide.

I know it's tough to use critical thinking when you're too busy licking boots, but give it a try sometime.
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Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.

Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.

So all you got is lies and spite.

And sorry you lost the Olive Garden gig.

ICE broke several policies and laws.

1. The shooter walked in front of a running vehicle. That isn't just against code. That is moronic. He was to the left of her vehicle She turned to the right.
2. They had no reason to detain her when they tried to force her way into her vehicle.
3. They blocked medical help.
4. They fled the crime scene.

Not to mention that she executed a K turn to leave the scene. Not exactly a maneuver you make when trying to commit vehicular homicide.

I know it's tough to use critical thinking when you're too busy licking boots, but give it a try sometime.

What an absolute load of bull***** Wow. "Dey caint block a fleein person!" Moronic dribble.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Wangchung said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.

Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.

So all you got is lies and spite.

And sorry you lost the Olive Garden gig.

ICE broke several policies and laws.

1. The shooter walked in front of a running vehicle. That isn't just against code. That is moronic. He was to the left of her vehicle She turned to the right.
2. They had no reason to detain her when they tried to force her way into her vehicle.
3. They blocked medical help.
4. They fled the crime scene.

Not to mention that she executed a K turn to leave the scene. Not exactly a maneuver you make when trying to commit vehicular homicide.

I know it's tough to use critical thinking when you're too busy licking boots, but give it a try sometime.

What an absolute load of bull***** Wow. "Dey caint block a fleein person!" Moronic dribble.
Where did anyone say that? Reading comprehension is your friend.
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Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.

Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.

The woman :made some terrible decisions, but I do not think she acted like a murderer or domestic terrorist. She did not deserve to be shot. The ICE agent needs to be suspended pending an investigation.

ICE did not make the streets of MN safer for this women.
Mitch Henessey
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Guy Noir said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.

Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.

The woman :made some terrible decisions, but I do not think she acted like a murderer or domestic terrorist. She did not deserve to be shot. The ICE agent needs to be suspended pending an investigation.

ICE did not make the streets of MN safer for this women.
I agree with this in its entirety. The only thing I'd add is that the FBI should not be impeding the State of MN investigation into the incident. If it was a "by the book" shooting (which I have seen nothing to indicate that it was), the Feds should have no issue with a rigorous investigation.
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Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Oldbear83 said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Redbrickbear said:

J.R. said:



If some. ICE thug were to come round my place , he'd get a Glock 9 shot over his head. !


Uh…then you would most likely be dead because you took the unbelievably stupid decision to take a shot at an armed & trained Federal officer pursuing his legal duties under the law.

Or at the very least you're stupid butt would be facing a felony charge for attempted murder and looking at 20 years or more in prison.

Look I know you're just trying to play tough on the internet …but I can't believe we have people like you who graduate from Baylor.

Heck I think I'm even more surprised you were a SigEp



"Trained" is doing a hell of a lot of work in that statement. ICE "officers" have to undergo 47 days of training. You have to be in training longer to be a server at Olive Garden.

The facts are clear this was a clean shooting,

But facts are hard for the Left.

Yes, a clean shooting that directly violated the Department of Homeland Security protocols regarding engaging with a moving vehicle. Very clean. The cleanest.

So all you got is lies and spite.

And sorry you lost the Olive Garden gig.

ICE broke several policies and laws.

1. The shooter walked in front of a running vehicle. That isn't just against code. That is moronic. He was to the left of her vehicle She turned to the right.
2. They had no reason to detain her when they tried to force her way into her vehicle.
3. They blocked medical help.
4. They fled the crime scene.

Not to mention that she executed a K turn to leave the scene. Not exactly a maneuver you make when trying to commit vehicular homicide.

I know it's tough to use critical thinking when you're too busy licking boots, but give it a try sometime.



I have a buddy ex-cop.

He said he was instructed the only time you shoot at a vehicle is if you are cornered. Otherwise, get out of the way and arrest them later.
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Total stupid move by that ICE cop. All he had to do was step aside and let her go. Could have picked her up later easily.
 
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