boognish_bear said:🚨 BREAKING: Democrat Sen. John Fetterman comes out in FULL SUPPORT of ICE’s deployments nationwide
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 14, 2026
“Round up ALL the criminals! DEPORT THEM! They definitely have to go!”
Don’t let liberals fool you: this is the MAJORITY opinion in America!
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Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
william said:boognish_bear said:🚨 BREAKING: Democrat Sen. John Fetterman comes out in FULL SUPPORT of ICE’s deployments nationwide
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 14, 2026
“Round up ALL the criminals! DEPORT THEM! They definitely have to go!”
Don’t let liberals fool you: this is the MAJORITY opinion in America!
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attaboy big john...............
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Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
BUDOS said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
I'm just asking, realizing that you may take it offensively, is there a political issue on which you take a middle ground, or one where you might be willing to compromise? Overall, you appear too intelligent to be as closed minded as you sometimes appear. For example, is there a Trump policy issue on which you are not totally in agreement with him?
Absolutely. Personally I cannot stand Trump the man. Great president but I wouldn't want to work or know him. His weak actions on decriminalizing marijuana bother me. His attempt to ban bump stocks angered me, though I hate bump stocks personally.BUDOS said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
I'm just asking, realizing that you may take it offensively, is there a political issue on which you take a middle ground, or one where you might be willing to compromise? Overall, you appear too intelligent to be as closed minded as you sometimes appear. For example, is there a Trump policy issue on which you are not totally in agreement with him?
You watch a video of ICE agents apprehending specific illegals where they know they will be and that means it's gestapo tactics because you don't like the scene of their arrest.FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
KaiBear said:
Wonder if Fetterman will even bother to run for re election.
As deporting criminal illegals is against the Dem agenda.
Johnny Bear said:KaiBear said:
Wonder if Fetterman will even bother to run for re election.
As deporting criminal illegals is against the Dem agenda.
Fetterman has been a really unexpected pleasant surprise. Prolly just a matter of time before he follows people like Gabbert, Manchin, Senema, and RFK, Jr. and leaves the democrat party.
FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
Moronic, man. Jesus. "We should let agents and their families get killed before we protect their identity!"FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
Harrison Bergeron said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Can you share another situation and law enforcement agency that faced thousands of psychotic people actively interfering with a law enforcement action.
Do you think the ATF was to blame for the Branch Davidians?
FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
"The country once known for having the world’s highest murder rate now has the world’s highest incarceration rate."
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) July 11, 2023
Homicide down 92%
90% approval
44% decline migration to US
El Salvador won its war on crime. "Rights groups" and criminals hit hardest. https://t.co/xzPswCjHOv pic.twitter.com/YJdx7IPFDE
El Salvador is on track to be the safest country in the Western Hemisphere in 2025…
— Geiger Capital (@Geiger_Capital) November 22, 2025
You can just remove violent people from society and make life better for everyone else. pic.twitter.com/aB5n3WP35f
El Salvador has its prisoners cleaning up the country’s beaches.
— Wall Street Mav (@WallStreetMav) January 9, 2026
Bukele has developed the most effective prison system in the world. pic.twitter.com/0trWYtnoFR
A lesson in bipartisanship: Democratic Sen. John Fetterman and Republican Sen. Dave McCormick tell @TonyDokoupil they are looking for ways to work together for the people of Pennsylvania and to set a good example. They also discuss President Trump’s plans for Greenland, health… pic.twitter.com/LSBzbzkyza
— CBS Evening News with Tony Dokoupil (@CBSEveningNews) January 17, 2026
Serious question; are you out of your teen years yet? We mask agents because people in your party use THE INTERNET to doxx agents and families to THE ENTIRE WORLD. Remind me how many years out of that 250 we have had that threat?FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
Let's set aside your talk about the USA and ICE for a moment.
And let focus on your negative example of El Salvador. A country that used to have one of the highest murder rates in the Western Hemisphere. Where Narco-terrorist gangs could kidnap young girls off the street…rape them in front of their parents…then force them into sex-slavery in brothels and make money off their suffering..while killing their family members or elected leaders/law enforcement without consequences"The country once known for having the world’s highest murder rate now has the world’s highest incarceration rate."
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) July 11, 2023
Homicide down 92%
90% approval
44% decline migration to US
El Salvador won its war on crime. "Rights groups" and criminals hit hardest. https://t.co/xzPswCjHOv pic.twitter.com/YJdx7IPFDEEl Salvador is on track to be the safest country in the Western Hemisphere in 2025…
— Geiger Capital (@Geiger_Capital) November 22, 2025
You can just remove violent people from society and make life better for everyone else. pic.twitter.com/aB5n3WP35fEl Salvador has its prisoners cleaning up the country’s beaches.
— Wall Street Mav (@WallStreetMav) January 9, 2026
Bukele has developed the most effective prison system in the world. pic.twitter.com/0trWYtnoFR
FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
Looks like ol Fl must have missed this question.Wangchung said:Serious question; are you out of your teen years yet? We mask agents because people in your party use THE INTERNET to doxx agents and families to THE ENTIRE WORLD. Remind me how many years out of that 250 we have had that threat?FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
Assassin said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
That's a crazy take. Not only will taking thier masks off harm the lawmen, but hurt their families. re: Tom Homan
- Death Threats and Separation: In June 2025, Homan stated that he and his wife were living apart because he had received death threats related to his role in enforcing strict immigration crackdowns and the long hours he works.
- Targeted in Hometown: Despite being a 30-plus year veteran of immigration enforcement and originating from West Carthage, N.Y., Homan has faced intense backlash and protests in his hometown area regarding his policies.
- Security Concerns: Homan has been a key, controversial figure in shaping "zero tolerance" family separation policies and leading mass deportation plans, which have led to increased security threats against him.
FLBear5630 said:Assassin said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
That's a crazy take. Not only will taking thier masks off harm the lawmen, but hurt their families. re: Tom Homan
- Death Threats and Separation: In June 2025, Homan stated that he and his wife were living apart because he had received death threats related to his role in enforcing strict immigration crackdowns and the long hours he works.
- Targeted in Hometown: Despite being a 30-plus year veteran of immigration enforcement and originating from West Carthage, N.Y., Homan has faced intense backlash and protests in his hometown area regarding his policies.
- Security Concerns: Homan has been a key, controversial figure in shaping "zero tolerance" family separation policies and leading mass deportation plans, which have led to increased security threats against him.
This is what we have become. This is not America. Masked Police gangs grabbing people and terrorizing neighborhoods. They are grabbing people on their way to work or lunch, no questions, no ask for proof of citizenship, physically accosting and taking to Federal Building. Letting go later, no explanation nothing. This is making the Gitmo Days look tame.
The ICE tactics are going to hurt the GOP this year in elections. As usual, good what and why, HORRIBLE execution. Put Stephen Miller on TV defending invading Greenland on top of this, makes you wonder if they want to lose the midterms. And you guys applaud?
FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
God help you every October 31st.
It isn't a bs question. It will happen. I just wondered how many would it take before you would allow our officers to protect themselves from the Democrats.
FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
God help you every October 31st.
It isn't a bs question. It will happen. I just wondered how many would it take before you would allow our officers to protect themselves from the Democrats.
What happened to the anti-Government. Government stay out of my life crowd? You seem real good with armed, masked Federal Agents walking the streets that can stop you at will.
If masking is necessary, it should be part of the warrant. OR are we doing away with those too?
You zero integrity liars always try to twist our words. We aren't anti-government, we are anti-corrupt government. You're simply not very bright so you fall for the propaganda meant to enrage and offend you so you pretend like we have been railing against the idea of governance.FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
God help you every October 31st.
It isn't a bs question. It will happen. I just wondered how many would it take before you would allow our officers to protect themselves from the Democrats.
What happened to the anti-Government. Government stay out of my life crowd? You seem real good with armed, masked Federal Agents walking the streets that can stop you at will.
If masking is necessary, it should be part of the warrant. OR are we doing away with those too?
