GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:GrowlTowel said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:FLBear5630 said:Wangchung said:BUDOS said:
Perhaps you are missing the point. I am not referring only to that specific incident, but the whole situation, and not just Minneapolis. Recognizing that others may disagree, I trying to point out that compared to normal law enforcement training that these dudes were getting short changed and that there was a report indicating that apparently little background checking was being conducted. If so, then either of these two things could be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
Sadly there have been a LOT of "reports" that just turn out to be corrupt media propaganda meant to rile the masses. Remember when the reports told us Good was just dropping off her kid and accidentally pulled into the street in front of ICE?
The whole problem is the sheer mass of humanity that we are dealing with now thanks to the previous administration's efforts to flood the country with illegals. Biden and his handlers knew if they made the problem big enough it would take monumental efforts to fix the problem and then they could point at the new tactics as overreach.
If we have to shorten training a bit in order to get more agents on the streets then that's what we have to do. Your real complaint isn't that ICE is arresting illegals. Your complaint seems to be at the sensational headlines you've been reading telling you that agents are kidnapping civilians and beating up random people in the streets. Same headlines that claimed Good didn't hit the agent with her vehicle.
We saw the border under Biden. We witnessed the backhoes holding up razor wire so illegals could cross freely. The world is not entitled to live in America but America is entitled to enforce our laws.
It is more than that. I agree it is not the mission, as with the rest of what Trump does, it is how they are doing it.
It's doesn't matter how Trump does it, the response from democrats and media would be EXACTLY THE SAME. You would fall for the same accusations and claims, because that's what you've done here. Don't act like there was a way for Trump to deport tens of millions of illegal invaders without democrats and the media sensationalizing it.
The masked tactical officers grabbing people in restaurants, sort of leans against that. I don't know anyone against the mission, but the Gestapo tactics is not who the US is supposed to be.
As the masks seem to be the only tactic you take issue with, how would you propose these agents protect themselves from the Democrats threatening them harm?
And how many times has physical harm occurred off duty? If there is cause, then have the judge put it in the warrant. Masks needs to be the exception, not the default.
If someone threatens or does something illegal, you prosecute the hell out of them. Like anything else. Masked soldiers grabbing people is not American. Sorry.
How many dead agents would be acceptable?
That is a BS question and you know it. Using that logic you can justify anything. Why have we existed for 250 years through civil rights, war on drugs, war on terror and now we need a masked police state? With the full capabilities of the US, we cannot protect our officers without masking them like El Salvadorian hit squads. Are we going to mask cops? IRS? Any agency that gets a threat? Toll Agencies need to be masked, they get threats and cursed all the time. You want to use ridiculous standards....
God help you every October 31st.
It isn't a bs question. It will happen. I just wondered how many would it take before you would allow our officers to protect themselves from the Democrats.
I like that "protect themselves from Democrats". That should be a campaign line