Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Scattershooting while remembering in 2008, conservatives telling us to arm yourself to prevent what is happening now from happening.

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Conservatives have telling people to armed themselves for their protection from unlawful Federal authorities since long long before 2008

Since like the 1790s at least

The difference is that conservatives have not been telling people to go out and intentionally seek out confrontations with Federal officers for fun.

And especially not when these Federal officers are executing just laws and lawful orders.

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ICE Murder Victim: Alex J. Pretti (37) of South Minneapolis.

No criminal record.

Worked for the VA.

Legal gun owner.

Owned his own home.

RIP. pic.twitter.com/YC4TE4UgSm

— William Coffin (@CoffinItUp) January 24, 2026

The woman in pink at the Minneapolis shooting scene has now dropped her footage from the front facing side pic.twitter.com/YDeDNiPJxK

— Tom Iconic (@TomiconicX) January 24, 2026

Oldbear83 said:

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Porteroso said:

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They had already taken his gun, and were beating him, when one of them pulled a gun and executed him, from what is being reported. If true, it's a big mistake.

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It seems 'what is reported' according to you is simply your fetid, malicious imagination.

And I shouldn't have to write this, but if you bring a gun to a protest, you are in no way 'peaceful'.

Maybe tell your law-enforcement-hating buddies to just bring signs.

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Forest Bueller III said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Porteroso said:

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They had already taken his gun, and were beating him, when one of them pulled a gun and executed him, from what is being reported. If true, it's a big mistake.

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I don't want to be called a lib, but I always look for truth, not propaganda. The Trump administration will forward propaganda in this incident. They always do.

Saw the video from the pink ladies point of view and another closer point of view. I don't doubt the dude was carrying he was, but if you watch closely, a guy came up behind him and ripped a gun out of the guys waist/belt and ran away from the brawl moments before the dude was shot.

I can also say this, he did not brandish a weapon or when on the ground getting the hell beat out of him had no way to get to the weapon.

He also was legally carrying which has been reported by multiple Minnesota News agencies.
My son also carries and if he does will have a couple of loaded mags in his belt.

At some point folks on the right might wake up and understand the administration right now ain't right.

The biggest thing I can see here is they again are not allowing locals to investigate the shooting. Real professional need to investigate this, not the administration saying we have this and we will determine the truth.

But, I can see what you are saying about him being disarmed, it appears that one of the officers pulled a gun from him and fled right before the shots were fired.

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Whether this was a "bad shoot" or not isn't something that can be determined without a thorough investigation, but there are people in places of responsibility offering contradictory conclusions before any investigation has happened.

Who is the "real professional" that should investigate?

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Since this was on the ground in Minnesota the Minnesota Judicial System should lead in the investigation. A Minnesota citizen was killed.

Again, no doubt the guy was legally carrying. So do a lot of people. Everywhere they go. I saw what I saw, up close. I do not like the narrative. It is made up.

Ice has a real purpose; they need to reevaluate the way they are doing what they do on the ground in American cities. Keeping the border secure is #1 priority. They are doing a great job there. With basically net zero people crossing the border.

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Jack Bauer said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Scattershooting while remembering in 2008, conservatives telling us to arm yourself to prevent what is happening now from happening.

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Conservatives have telling people to armed themselves for their protection from unlawful Federal authorities since long long before 2008

Since like the 1790s at least

The difference is that conservatives have not been telling people to go out and intentionally seek out confrontations with Federal officers for fun.

And especially not when these Federal officers are executing just laws and lawful orders.

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What was the "confrontation" he was presenting? Filming them?

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Redbrickbear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Scattershooting while remembering in 2008, conservatives telling us to arm yourself to prevent what is happening now from happening.

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Conservatives have telling people to armed themselves for their protection from unlawful Federal authorities since long long before 2008

Since like the 1790s at least

The difference is that conservatives have not been telling people to go out and intentionally seek out confrontations with Federal officers for fun.

And especially not when these Federal officers are executing just laws and lawful orders.

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What was the "confrontation" he was presenting? Filming them?

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Like all of these events…I will wait for more info to come out and an investigation to take place before I condemn the Feds or this guy (either party or both could be in the wrong)

But for weeks now we have seen the Left encouraging people to go out in the streets to confront, impede, and seek out conflict with Federal officers executing just laws

It's dangerous and it's wrong

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Oldbear83 said:

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You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".

Much less additional ammunition.

The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.

What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.

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Jack Bauer said:

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It looks like these people were
-blowing whistles
-standing in the street
-filming ICE

probably annoying and maybe a misdemeanor but how did it escalate to this? What was with the ICE guy shoving the woman down??

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".

Much less additional ammunition.

The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.

What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.

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really??

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D. C. Bear said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Porteroso said:

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They had already taken his gun, and were beating him, when one of them pulled a gun and executed him, from what is being reported. If true, it's a big mistake.

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I don't want to be called a lib, but I always look for truth, not propaganda. The Trump administration will forward propaganda in this incident. They always do.

Saw the video from the pink ladies point of view and another closer point of view. I don't doubt the dude was carrying he was, but if you watch closely, a guy came up behind him and ripped a gun out of the guys waist/belt and ran away from the brawl moments before the dude was shot.

I can also say this, he did not brandish a weapon or when on the ground getting the hell beat out of him had no way to get to the weapon.

He also was legally carrying which has been reported by multiple Minnesota News agencies.
My son also carries and if he does will have a couple of loaded mags in his belt.

At some point folks on the right might wake up and understand the administration right now ain't right.

The biggest thing I can see here is they again are not allowing locals to investigate the shooting. Real professional need to investigate this, not the administration saying we have this and we will determine the truth.

But, I can see what you are saying about him being disarmed, it appears that one of the officers pulled a gun from him and fled right before the shots were fired.

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Whether this was a "bad shoot" or not isn't something that can be determined without a thorough investigation, but there are people in places of responsibility offering contradictory conclusions before any investigation has happened.

Who is the "real professional" that should investigate?

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Since this was on the ground in Minnesota the Minnesota Judicial System should lead in the investigation. A Minnesota citizen was killed.

Again, no doubt the guy was legally carrying. So do a lot of people. Everywhere they go. I saw what I saw, up close. I do not like the narrative. It is made up.

Ice has a real purpose; they need to reevaluate the way they are doing what they do on the ground in American cities. Keeping the border secure is #1 priority. They are doing a great job there. With basically net zero people crossing the border.

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It may be that they need to reevaluate the way they are doing what they do. Some local and state politicians also need to reevaluate what conditions they cause when they refuse to cooperate with the lawful work of the federal government in enforcing immigration laws.

I'm not sure that we can trust the local Minnesota authorities to investigate this any more than we could trust the local sheriffs in Alabama or Mississippi to investigate the Klan in the 1960s.

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".

Much less additional ammunition.

The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.

What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.

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really??

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— WG (@WGMeets) January 22, 2026

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— Brad Townsend (@townbrad) January 24, 2026

Oldbear83 said:

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We certainly know we cannot trust you to be truthful.

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Wangchung said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".

Much less additional ammunition.

The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.

What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.

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really??

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Kyle was there to resist the violent agitators, not to offer them armed support against federal agents.

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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We certainly know we cannot trust you to be truthful.

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Well, this statement is a certain lie, so I will take your future statements for what they are.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Honest eyes see idiots attacking cops with cars and guns.

Dishonest posters will also excuse Somali 'daycares' and demand law enforcement submit to violent mobs.

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Jack Bauer said:

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Wangchung said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".

Much less additional ammunition.

The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.

What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.

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really??

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Kyle was there to resist the violent agitators, not to offer them armed support against federal agents.

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How would anyone know that without context?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Honest eyes see idiots attacking cops with cars and guns.

Dishonest posters will also excuse Somali 'daycares' and demand law enforcement submit to violent mobs.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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We certainly know we cannot trust you to be truthful.

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Well, this statement is a certain lie, so I will take your future statements for what they are.

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It's absolutely correct, but I can understand you don't like being reminded of it.

Please don't bring weapons to protest. Just saying, your parents should have told you that long ago, but nothing good comes of bringing a gun to confront cops.

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Stephen Miller called this “a domestic terrorist trying to assassinate federal law enforcement.”

Watch the video. This entire Trump regime is shamelessly lying to the public about everything. https://t.co/GlLKcirqC0

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 24, 2026

Jack Bauer said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Honest eyes see idiots attacking cops with cars and guns.

Dishonest posters will also excuse Somali 'daycares' and demand law enforcement submit to violent mobs.

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Show me where this guy pulled his gun on the 5 ICE cops beating him down...

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Oldbear83 said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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We certainly know we cannot trust you to be truthful.

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Well, this statement is a certain lie, so I will take your future statements for what they are.

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It's absolutely correct, but I can understand you don't like being reminded of it.

Please don't bring weapons to protest. Just saying, your parents should have told you that long ago, but nothing good comes of bringing a gun to confront cops.

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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We certainly know we cannot trust you to be truthful.

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Well, this statement is a certain lie, so I will take your future statements for what they are.

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It's absolutely correct, but I can understand you don't like being reminded of it.

Please don't bring weapons to protest. Just saying, your parents should have told you that long ago, but nothing good comes of bringing a gun to confront cops.

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How was he "confronting" them? By filming them?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Honest eyes see idiots attacking cops with cars and guns.

Dishonest posters will also excuse Somali 'daycares' and demand law enforcement submit to violent mobs.

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Show me where this guy pulled his gun on the 5 ICE cops beating him down...

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Your claim, your job to prove it,

He brought a gun, no one is even denying that.

He confronted cops while carrying the gun, no one is denying that.

He had extra ammunition on him, no one is denying that.

He became violent and was shot as a result, his gun being an undeniable factor.

It's really pretty obvious for sane people.

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Mitch Henessey said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Forest Bueller III said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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We certainly know we cannot trust you to be truthful.

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Well, this statement is a certain lie, so I will take your future statements for what they are.

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It's absolutely correct, but I can understand you don't like being reminded of it.

Please don't bring weapons to protest. Just saying, your parents should have told you that long ago, but nothing good comes of bringing a gun to confront cops.

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Crazy that the party glorifying the 2nd Amendment, "pry it from my cold, dead hands," wants to step in and play Big Brother in this scenario.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Honest eyes see idiots attacking cops with cars and guns.

Dishonest posters will also excuse Somali 'daycares' and demand law enforcement submit to violent mobs.

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Show me where this guy pulled his gun on the 5 ICE cops beating him down...

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Your claim, your job to prove it,

He brought a gun, no one is even denying that.

He confronted cops while carrying the gun, no one is denying that.

He had extra ammunition on him, no one is denying that.

He became violent and was shot as a result, his gun being an undeniable factor.

It's really pretty obvious for sane people.

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