I helped to establish DHS in 2002 and 2003 and later had the homeland security portfolio as a White House Counsel and served as General Counsel of the Department.
— John Mitnick (@JohnMitnick) January 24, 2026
I am enraged and embarrassed by DHS’s lawlessness, fascism, and cruelty.
Impeach and remove Trump—now. https://t.co/4yWbZK2JOo
Minneapolis ICE shooting
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whiterock said:Forest Bueller III said:Porteroso said:
They had already taken his gun, and were beating him, when one of them pulled a gun and executed him, from what is being reported. If true, it's a big mistake.
I don't want to be called a lib, but I always look for truth, not propaganda. The Trump administration will forward propaganda in this incident. They always do.
Saw the video from the pink ladies point of view and another closer point of view. I don't doubt the dude was carrying he was, but if you watch closely, a guy came up behind him and ripped a gun out of the guys waist/belt and ran away from the brawl moments before the dude was shot.
I can also say this, he did not brandish a weapon or when on the ground getting the hell beat out of him had no way to get to the weapon.
He also was legally carrying which has been reported by multiple Minnesota News agencies.
My son also carries and if he does will have a couple of loaded mags in his belt.
At some point folks on the right might wake up and understand the administration right now ain't right.
The biggest thing I can see here is they again are not allowing locals to investigate the shooting. Real professional need to investigate this, not the administration saying we have this and we will determine the truth.
But, I can see what you are saying about him being disarmed, it appears that one of the officers pulled a gun from him and fled right before the shots were fired.
Also, they say he approached officers with a 9mm. One of the very up close videos showed him directing traffic and then just to his left officers were throwing down a woman the man came up got down and was shielding her from getting beat. They then ripped him off of her, started beating the hell out of him, some other officer ripped something out of his belt and ran away as then about 6-8 rounds were unloaded into him.
Their narrative is bull*****
BS
If you are armed and you start fighting with a half-dozen officers, bad things are going to happen to you. One officer perceives you are trying to obtain his weapon, you are going to get shot. Many times. And it will by by law a justified shooting.
Do NOT fight with cops.
If you looked at the many videos he didn't start anything. He was trying to deescalate when he was swarmed and assaulted, then after the legal conceal carry handgun was ripped out of his belt he was summarily shot. Somewhere in between the start and the end he was sprayed with something probably pepper spray and then beaten in the head with a cannister. He wasn't fighting, I've been in fights, you are aggressive and strike the other person when fighting. When assaulted like he was here, he was taken down from behind and then jumped by a half dozen men who gave him no chance to comply, it was just continual beating until he was shot dead. Sounded like 7-8 shots and 5 landed. Others easily could have been killed with that many shots.
By obstructing ICE carrying out their lawful duty to arrest and deport illegal criminals and terrorists, you are "adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort" which is the very definition of treason in the Constitution
The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
boognish_bear said:I helped to establish DHS in 2002 and 2003 and later had the homeland security portfolio as a White House Counsel and served as General Counsel of the Department.
— John Mitnick (@JohnMitnick) January 24, 2026
I am enraged and embarrassed by DHS’s lawlessness, fascism, and cruelty.
Impeach and remove Trump—now. https://t.co/4yWbZK2JOo
If your support is George Conway, well, you don't have much.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
🚨 WATCH: Slow Motion video shows armed suspect drawing his gun right before Border Patrol agents take him down in Minneapolis.
— Alec Lace (@AlecLace) January 24, 2026
He fought arrest. Agents defended themselves.
Democrats have normalized attacking federal officers. This is the bloody result.
Enough is enough pic.twitter.com/37Zw1hlooB
Thank God for the patriots of @ICEgov — we have your back 100%. You are SAVING the country.
— Pete Hegseth (@PeteHegseth) January 24, 2026
Shame on the leadership of Minnesota — and the lunatics in the street.
ICE > MN
LOL, they were shoving him. It's right there in the videos.
Chief Strategist for Rand Paul. pic.twitter.com/EXFjyTxFwU
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) January 24, 2026
“They’re using the context of immigration as a pretext to sidestep constitutional limits—warrants, due process, and transparency—that protect us all from government abuses.”
— Libertarian Party (@LPNational) January 24, 2026
– Justin Amash pic.twitter.com/hJiFQi3KH1
Funny how some people cannot grasp the difference between having a weapon legally, and using it in an illegal manner.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
We the people have a right to bear arms in public. I've encountered countless police while I've been armed, and never been shot. The presence of a firearm, by itself, is not an indicator of a criminal intent or a threat to law enforcement. https://t.co/188yuSq6Uy
— Cam Edwards (@CamEdwards) January 24, 2026
303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
You and I are never going to agree.
You are an open borders leftist.
We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.
America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.
The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
You and I are never going to agree.
You are an open borders leftist.
We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.
America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.
Drama queen much? You can disagree on single events without being a socialist.
That's like saying you disagree with Dave Aranda so that makes you an Aggy.
The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
You and I are never going to agree.
You are an open borders leftist.
We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.
America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.
I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.
Gonna be a long night there
NOW: ARMED Community Members stand guard outside of the site where Alex Pretti was shot and killed by Federal Agents this morning in Minneapolis as Anti-ICE Protest continues nearby pic.twitter.com/dDvBHeUy6F
— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) January 25, 2026
Alex Pretti reads some final words for a veteran he cared for at a VA hospital. Video courtesy of the veteran's son. pic.twitter.com/PKbpMpH6hv
— derek guy (@dieworkwear) January 25, 2026
— Libertarian Party (@LPNational) January 25, 2026
Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
You and I are never going to agree.
You are an open borders leftist.
We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.
America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.
Drama queen much? You can disagree on single events without being a socialist.
That's like saying you disagree with Dave Aranda so that makes you an Aggy.
There are only two issues that truly matter.... Immigration/Border Security and Election Integrity. The fate of the western civilization depends on it.
No... its not being dramatic. If you feel that way you arent a very prudent person.
If you followed my lead, your children and grandchildren would thank you.
303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
You and I are never going to agree.
You are an open borders leftist.
We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.
America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.
I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.
You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):
INSANE Walk through the Chicago Blue Linepic.twitter.com/fahwbhlwzO
— Owen Shroyer (@OwenShroyer1776) January 25, 2026
KaiBear said:Forest Bueller III said:Porteroso said:
They had already taken his gun, and were beating him, when one of them pulled a gun and executed him, from what is being reported. If true, it's a big mistake.
I don't want to be called a lib, but I always look for truth, not propaganda. The Trump administration will forward propaganda in this incident. They always do.
Saw the video from the pink ladies point of view and another closer point of view. I don't doubt the dude was carrying he was, but if you watch closely, a guy came up behind him and ripped a gun out of the guys waist/belt and ran away from the brawl moments before the dude was shot.
I can also say this, he did not brandish a weapon or when on the ground getting the hell beat out of him had no way to get to the weapon.
He also was legally carrying which has been reported by multiple Minnesota News agencies.
My son also carries and if he does will have a couple of loaded mags in his belt.
At some point folks on the right might wake up and understand the administration right now ain't right.
The biggest thing I can see here is they again are not allowing locals to investigate the shooting. Real professional need to investigate this, not the administration saying we have this and we will determine the truth.
But, I can see what you are saying about him being disarmed, it appears that one of the officers pulled a gun from him and fled right before the shots were fired.
Also, they say he approached officers with a 9mm. One of the very up close videos showed him directing traffic and then just to his left officers were throwing down a woman the man came up got down and was shielding her from getting beat. They then ripped him off of her, started beating the hell out of him, some other officer ripped something out of his belt and ran away as then about 6-8 rounds were unloaded into him.
Their narrative is bull*****
I would never interfere with law enforcement officers attempting to arrest a perp.
And I would never be stupid enough to commit such a reckless act against said law enforcement officers while carrying a loaded 9mm.
Period
I thought the same of myself but then i sat through another baylor basketball loss
The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
You and I are never going to agree.
You are an open borders leftist.
We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.
America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.
I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.
You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):
I might be a bit wary of train travel as poetic justice if I were you.
Jack Bauer said:Oldbear83 said:
You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".
Much less additional ammunition.
The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.
What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.
really??
That wasn't a peaceful protest. He went to protect property. Not to confront law enforcement. Stupid comparison
Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
You and I are never going to agree.
You are an open borders leftist.
We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.
America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.
I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.
You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):
I might be a bit wary of train travel as poetic justice if I were you.
Ok I chuckled. That was funny.
Jack Bauer said:
Is this
your 2nd amendment right OR agitating law enforcement? You can't have it both ways.
2nd amendment right.
Notice there is no law enforcement in the picture. No one is yelling. No one is getting the way of law enforcement doing their job, laying hands on law enforcement, etc.
Another stupid comparison.
cowboycwr said:Jack Bauer said:Oldbear83 said:
You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".
Much less additional ammunition.
The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.
What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.
really??
That wasn't a peaceful protest. He went to protect property. Not to confront law enforcement. Stupid comparison
How does law enforcement know this?
Jack Bauer said:cowboycwr said:Jack Bauer said:Oldbear83 said:
You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".
Much less additional ammunition.
The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.
What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.
really??
That wasn't a peaceful protest. He went to protect property. Not to confront law enforcement. Stupid comparison
How does law enforcement know this?
Law enforcement can always spot the bad guys. They're the ones who take out their phones and start recording.
Jack Bauer said:cowboycwr said:Jack Bauer said:Oldbear83 said:
You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".
Much less additional ammunition.
The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.
What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.
really??
That wasn't a peaceful protest. He went to protect property. Not to confront law enforcement. Stupid comparison
How does law enforcement know this?
Because he didn't attack them or interfere with their job of standing by while things were looted and burned.
cowboycwr said:Jack Bauer said:cowboycwr said:Jack Bauer said:Oldbear83 said:
You do not need your gun for a "peaceful protest".
Much less additional ammunition.
The Left, and judging by your last few posts that certainly does include you, FB3, can't deal with facts, so they/you make up lies that you imagine will change the facts.
What is needed is for the agitators to stop putting their own lives at risk by these dangerous behaviors.
really??
That wasn't a peaceful protest. He went to protect property. Not to confront law enforcement. Stupid comparison
How does law enforcement know this?
Because he didn't attack them or interfere with their job of standing by while things were looted and burned.
Yes just like the guy in MN
"I can't get any information from anybody," Michael Pretti said Saturday. "The police, they said call Border Patrol, Border Patrol's closed, the hospitals won't answer any questions?"
Eventually, the family called the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, who they said confirmed had a body matching the name and description of their son
What a thing to put on ones parents……
Eventually, the family called the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, who they said confirmed had a body matching the name and description of their son
What a thing to put on ones parents……
The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:303Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Sam Lowry said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:
If this is the level we are setting to justify this shooting, then we need to ban concealed carry.
Was this a cousin or something?
Why do you care about some mouth-breather who got aired out defending Somali criminals and terrorists?
He gets my nomination for the Darwin Award but the year is still young.....
An American citizen who did not deserve this...
This is the future that "American citizen" was fighting for....
You don't know what, if anything, he was fighting for. All we know is that he was exercising his right to document the events. To condemn him on that basis is un-American.
You dont define what is or isnt American.
You're right. So don't blame the messenger.
Sam, I recommend you not provoke ICE while they are doing their lawful duty of arresting criminal invaders.
The tolerance level for your domestic terrorism is very low at the moment.
Spoken like a true neocon.
I'm an American First Nationalist.
Supporting ICE is completely in alignment with that.
In fact ICE is one of the very few organizations in our government actually serving the people.
You sound more like an ICE First nationalist. Supporting America should be in alignment with the Constitution.
2381. Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Are you equating standing in a street with a camera in your hand and (possibly, I cannot tell who is saying what from any of the videos) yelling at federal agents to treason punishable by death (which it only is after a trial, you know, that cool due process thing)?
If that is what you are saying then... I guess that is a thing you said.
He did more than yell.
He was obstructing.
What was he obstructing and how did he obstruct?
And obstructing (a misdemeanor under Texas law, I will not be bothered to look up MN law) is now, in your estimation, tantamount to treason and worthy of death?
At least you're willing to stick to your guns, something you have in common with ICE agents apparently.
He was obstructing by blocking the free movement of ICE officers and physically shoving them.
I dont want someone in my family getting killed by an illegal criminals bcs of a bunch of weak, feckless, cowardly ****s neutered ICE's ability to remove dangerous invaders.
I will take the life of my loved ones over a million Alex Pretti thugs
Did blocking their free movement happen before or after the Ice agent followed he and the two women toward the sidewalk and shoved one in the back? Or was it when the Ice agent grabbed him from behind after pepper spraying him twice? True, the obviously couldn't leave after they shot him, they had to circle up to get their stories straight.
If youre ok with this then I assume any of the other three letter agencies deploying similar tactics is fine too, right? If the ATF starts setting up outside of gun shows or near shooting ranges to check for illegal firearms, you will have no issue with that?
You and I are never going to agree.
You are an open borders leftist.
We are in a cold civil war and sadly your team is winning.... one more Presidency and you will bring in another 60 million illegals and the fate of this country is sealed.
America will become a 3rd world ****hole and you'll be on a the next boat out looking for the next prosperous country to destroy.
I highlighted the one part of your response that is accurate.
You should be required to take this train to work everyday for the rest of your life and feel the consequences of your actions(not supporting ICE):INSANE Walk through the Chicago Blue Linepic.twitter.com/fahwbhlwzO
— Owen Shroyer (@OwenShroyer1776) January 25, 2026
Specifically, how does this train in Chicago, have anything at all to do with ICE shooting a man in Minneapolis?
Danielsjackson114 said:
untrue. Stop spreading fake news. My goodness
What part, Daniel?