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If this is real and not AI, then the story is going to fizzleNew footage shows that Alex Pretti was a menace to society who previously vandalized an ICE vehicle in an attempt to escalate violence with agents.
— Savanah Hernandez (@Savsays) January 28, 2026
Color me shocked pic.twitter.com/k4eQWQVb6F
What a sweetheart, "the perfect guy," "the kind of guy you'd want your daughter to marry," I was told over the last few days.
Indeed, he is. I'd love to have one of my daughters bring home an unemployed protester who follows around LEO screaming like a banshee and kicking out taillights. No doubt he's a peach in all facets of his life. Imagine the excitement at Thanksgiving and the joy of having grandchildren who are taught the organized protestor lifestyle.
So shoot him dead in the street.
Arrest hin, but him in jail for 60 days. Fine him. Kill him?
What moral code were you raised with?
He was basically playing in freeway traffic and go hit, now you're trying to blame the car that hit him for his death.
You really believe if you hit someone on the freeway you won't be getting a visit from the Police?
How about you hit them, argue with the Police and they shoot you...
I really do not know what world you guys live in.
We live in world where low iq people believe they have the right to attack federal agents while brandishing a firearm.
It was holstered and he was tackled by 5 guys. The idiot should have been arrested, no doubt. If not the day he died, 11 days earlier. They should have cuffed him and brought him in. Perfectly reasonable. Even macing him, brought it on himself. Deadly force? On a City Street with civilians around? 10 times? Come on, no reasonable person can think that is warranted in a law enforcement situation. Hell, if you did that in Afghanistan CID would be visiting.
Homan got it under control and took the appropriate actions. Can we put him in charge of HSA? Make that guy a Cabinet member.
He really should have been arrested 11 days earlier. His actions deserved some time incarcerated.
Not sure why they just threw him aside and then left him alone.
His actions the day he died were much more subdued, almost as though he recalibrated his actions.
He was moving off the road and came to the aid of a woman who was slung around like a rag doll, he was attacked from the back, he was wrested to the ground and after his holstered, not brandished, gun was ripped out of the back of his belt, he was summarily shot at 10 times, with many of the shots landing.
He was certainly a jerk and an ass. His actions in the earlier video were undefendable and deserved an arrest.
Nothing he did however on the day he died deserved death, or even close to it.
He wasn't the sweet little guy that he was portrayed to be at all. He still should not have been killed, the response the day he was killed far exceeded his actions.
This isn't about Pretti "deserving" death. It's dishonest for people to keep misframing it that way. Pretti gambled with his life with his actions, and even still, despite everything we know about him - his prior violent assault on officers, his active impedance, his resisting arrest, and most notably, him doing all this while carrying a loaded weapon - STILL, had his weapon not spontaneously discharged (ostensibly - the investigation is ongoing) the officers would most likely not have shot him, and he'd be alive today.
Pretti was a victim of his own bad choices that culminated in being in a position where he was going to get killed if just ONE thing went wrong. It did. And unfortunately, it was something that was not his nor the officers' fault or within their control.
His weapon was taken from him while still holstered. If it discharged, it discharged in the hands of the Federal Agent. It was not Pertti having the weapon that caused the discharge. It was the officers tackling him and taking from his holster.
That is neither here nor there, the investigation will show that as it is on tape. The issue is the orders the Federal Agents were operating under when interacting with protestors on US streets. Aggression begets Aggression. The full tactical, the masks (for whatever reason), the use of tear gas, the picking up people on the streets (non-targeted enforcement)...
That is what caused the problem, not that everyone didn't get on their knees and interlock their fingers on their head when addressing ICE to make sure they wouldn't be shot...
It makes no difference in whose hands the weapon was in while it spontaneously discharged. The fact remains that if it did indeed discharge by itself, and the other officers had no idea where the weapon was and only saw that it was gone from Pretti's holster - then, as highly, highly unlucky that was for Pretti, the officers had the right in that split second to decide that their lives were in danger and assume that it was Pretti who had fired the shot. Again, very, very unlucky for Pretti that it had happened. But it was Pretti who very unwisely decided to carry a weapon while he was assaulting officers, to where all it would take is for ONE very unlucky thing to happen at precisely the wrong time for him to get shot by the officers. And incredibly, that one thing actually happened. If anything, Pretti was killed due to an act of God, sort of speak.
To blame what happened to Pretti on ICE policy and tactics is dishonest and/or ignorant and ideologically driven. It didn't matter what the policy was, who was enforcing it, or what the tactics were. If this were ANY police engagement of an armed protester - (you can insert whatever protest you want here, it doesn't matter) - and the gun the resisting protester was carrying went off in the chaos of wrestling with cops , then there's a near 99% chance they're going to get shot by the cops. This is just the reality of such a situation. Cops want to go home alive too. Argue against ICE policy and tactics all you want, but using Pretti getting shot as evidence of its failure is not being fair and honest, it's being ideologically opportunistic. "Don't let a crisis go to waste" is what democrats live by, and it's nauseating how many sheep they're able to manipulate this way.
To say that any protest with any Law Enforcement would have ended up with him dead shot 10 times is incredibly ignorant.
No, what's incredibly ignorant is having an incredibly simple point fly completely over your head.
You have an uncanny habit of miscomprehension and misframing things in order for the square peg of reality to get forced into your ideological circle.
This is good. I am saying every situation and agency is different. He is saying it all the same. One Agent could have changed the trajectory of that situation.
I am saying the Federal Government doesn't have the right to shoot you in the street 10 times with impunity. He is saying bringing a legal conceal carry weapon is justification for the Federal Government to shoot you. And I am the ideolog? The Far Right on this site are the object ones? Got you...
You: "He is saying bringing a legal conceal carry weapon is justification for the Federal Government to shoot you."
Look, I hate to keep beating up on you, but you keep asking for it with yet another demonstration of your continual bad habit of straw manning, miscomprehending, and/or misframing things in order to project your extremely biased view and/or to dishonestly marginalize the other person's view. Which is made worse by your utter unwillingness to incorporate new thoughts and information that might challenge it. It's the SAME thing with you on Roman Catholicism. You're a brick wall of ignorance, willful or unwillful, I really am not sure. Simply stated, you're either a pathetic liar, or you're just stuck on stupid. If this really is the reputation you want to build yourself here, then by all means keep at it.
You are the perfect example of someone that can quote technical details, but really doesn't understand what they are talking about. The closest example, is the Pharisees. You are showing the same here. Actually, you are on ignore because you don't add anything to the discussions but quoting verse. Once I again, I regret checking what you said, it adds nothing...
No one here is stupid enough to believe that you "blocked" me because I only "quoted verse". You are on the growing list of Roman Catholics and Orthodox who "blocked" me because I was making too much sense, and it made you uncomfortable because you had no argument against it. Cognitive dissonance led you to employ a common defense mechanism - denial and avoidance (i.e. "blocking")
Even in your response here, you didn't address what I said at all. Again, denial and avoidance. You have a really bad tendency to dishonestly straw man or misframe what is said, and you were called out. If anyone isn't adding anything to the discussion, it'd be YOU and your constant ignorance, miscomprehension, and lies about what's being said. And instead of owning up to it, you're trying the typical "Pharisee" ad hominem. You don't even know what you're saying here. The Pharisees were denounced by Jesus because they quoted their "Tradition" over what Scripture says. Sound like any religion you know?
