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In reply to FLBear5630 • 11:57a, 1/25/26
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?
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Hilarious. The positive of social media is we're not dependent on the oligarchs to tell us what to believe.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 12:23p, 1/25/26
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.
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In reply to Forest Bueller III • 12:26p, 1/25/26
Forest Bueller III said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.

Why do you think no other state is having these problems?

Why do you think these tactics are being deployed in Minnesota?

What would be required to make the deportation of illegal immigrant child molesters "humane?" Do child molesters deserve said treatment?
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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 12:34p, 1/25/26
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.

It's just not smart politically or practically. Let the states that love having and paying for illegals keep them. Get them all out of Texas first.


The issue would be that unfortunately the more illegals in Minnesota (and other blue states) increases their share of Congressional representation come redistricting time.

They are using illegals immigrants and the subversion of Federal law to try and gain political power



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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 12:40p, 1/25/26
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.


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In reply to FLBear5630 • 12:44p, 1/25/26
FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.


Nope. You violent leftists don't get to attack law enforcement and then pretend the consequences are the problem.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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In reply to Redbrickbear • 12:47p, 1/25/26
Redbrickbear said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.

It's just not smart politically or practically. Let the states that love having and paying for illegals keep them. Get them all out of Texas first.


The issue would be that unfortunately the more illegals in Minnesota (and other blue states) increases their share of Congressional representation come redistricting time.

They are using illegals immigrants and the subversion of Federal law to try and gain political power




Exactly - plus the federal taxpayer dollars illegals consume (wherever they are) affects all of us. If the damage was or could be restricted to the state level, I would be fine with letting the dumbed down blue state idiots that just keep voting for this crap waste their tax dollars on it, but unfortunately it inevitably ends up impacting taxpayers throughout the country.
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"The Radicals' agenda." Who are these radicals? What is their agenda?
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 12:49p, 1/25/26
Johnny Bear said:
Redbrickbear said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.

It's just not smart politically or practically. Let the states that love having and paying for illegals keep them. Get them all out of Texas first.


The issue would be that unfortunately the more illegals in Minnesota (and other blue states) increases their share of Congressional representation come redistricting time.

They are using illegals immigrants and the subversion of Federal law to try and gain political power




Exactly - plus the federal taxpayer dollars illegals consume (wherever they are) affects all of us. If the damage was or could be restricted to the state level, I would be fine with letting the dumbed down blue state idiots that just keep voting for this crap waste their tax dollars on it, but unfortunately it inevitably up impacting taxpayers throughout the country.

... and you could another 15 - 20 seats if the Democrat gerrymandering were corrected.

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In reply to Wangchung • 12:55p, 1/25/26
Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.



Nope. You violent leftists don't get to attack law enforcement and then pretend the consequences are the problem.

Which is why your attitude would never actually get anything done. What is more important the mission or "you don't get to"?

You think if they keep this up that ICE is just going to be able to keep doing this? Your attitude is counter-productive, IF the mission is getting rid of illegals.


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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 12:58p, 1/25/26
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.

Why do you think no other state is having these problems?

Why do you think these tactics are being deployed in Minnesota?

What would be required to make the deportation of illegal immigrant child molesters "humane?" Do child molesters deserve said treatment?

This is a strawman, we all want illegal immigrant violent criminals deported. They don't deserve protection.

What I am tired of seeing is citizens and legal immigrants harrassed, drug out their cars and beaten, taken into custody, then 10 hours later released with no recourse.

They need to ACTUALLY do targeted enforcement and stop going door to door just fishing.

Also 3000 officers in a city of 400K would be overwhelming and disruptive. My town of similar population have around 400 officers and it seem like I see them around every corner, imagine 8X that many on the street.
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Redbrickbear said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.

It's just not smart politically or practically. Let the states that love having and paying for illegals keep them. Get them all out of Texas first.


The issue would be that unfortunately the more illegals in Minnesota (and other blue states) increases their share of Congressional representation come redistricting time.

They are using illegals immigrants and the subversion of Federal law to try and gain political power




That is an interesting point I had not considered.

The answer to that is to ensure the Census only counts citizens and legal migrants.
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FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.

Again, you're not really providing a clear, objective answer. There needs to be standard to judge to what level American cities and states are allowed to actively support global billionaires' funding of an insurrection.
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"The Radicals' agenda." Who are these radicals? What is their agenda?


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Forest Bueller III said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.

Why do you think no other state is having these problems?

Why do you think these tactics are being deployed in Minnesota?

What would be required to make the deportation of illegal immigrant child molesters "humane?" Do child molesters deserve said treatment?

This is a strawman, we all want illegal immigrant violent criminals deported. They don't deserve protection.

What I am tired of seeing is citizens and legal immigrants harrassed, drug out their cars and beaten, taken into custody, then 10 hours later released with no recourse.

They need to ACTUALLY do targeted enforcement and stop going door to door just fishing.

Also 3000 officers in a city of 400K would be overwhelming and disruptive. My town of similar population have around 400 officers and it seem like I see them around every corner, imagine 8X that many on the street.

I guess the difference is given the level of knowing disinformation promoted by radical leftists, I honestly do not believe there are significant instances of citizens and legal immigrants being harassed. It is similar to the "voter ID laws prevent citizens from lawfully voting." No one has produced a single person who was legally eligible to vote but denied because of not having an ID. I am not doubting ICE has made mistakes, I would need some pretty clear, objective evidence of widespread citizens and legal immigrants being randomly pulled out of homes and cars. This is classic Orwellian disinformation funded by global billionaires and their media allies.

Do you know why ICE is executing its mission in Minneapolis the way it is?

Why do you think we're not having any issues in any other state?
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whiterock said:

Hilarious. The positive of social media is we're not dependent on the oligarchs to tell us what to believe.

We have a governor and a mayor summoning open resistance to thwart arrests of criminal illegal aliens subject to deportation orders, and somehow the resulting riots are simultaneously bad policy badly executed, even though deportation of criminal illegal aliens was the issue that decided the the 2024 election, and no other state is seeing a MN-style riot problem.

I think the admin and ICE are doing better than satisfactory.

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Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.

Again, you're not really providing a clear, objective answer. There needs to be standard to judge to what level American cities and states are allowed to actively support global billionaires' funding of an insurrection.

No, you are once again stuck on some left field point that is not pertinent to the situation. Global Billionaires???? What are you talking about. No, don't tell us, please I can only imagine what Bannon-esque conspiracy theory it is.

We are talking ICE tactics. What they are doing in MN is not working.

By the way, you may want to re-read your post. Stand
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FLBear5630 said:
Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.



Nope. You violent leftists don't get to attack law enforcement and then pretend the consequences are the problem.

Which is why your attitude would never actually get anything done. What is more important the mission or "you don't get to"?

You think if they keep this up that ICE is just going to be able to keep doing this? Your attitude is counter-productive, IF the mission is getting rid of illegals.


You have this idiotic belief that you could magically get democrats to stop being violent towards any law enforcement agency enforcing the law while Trump is president. You cannot. The protests are the point. Not police brutality. Not mean ICE agents deporting poor little brown toilet scrubbers and lawnmowers. The point is to create problems for Trump's administration. Two groups of leftists; ones who know that the disruption is the point and the other group is the rest of you idiots who are gullible enough to believe the first group.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.

Again, you're not really providing a clear, objective answer. There needs to be standard to judge to what level American cities and states are allowed to actively support global billionaires' funding of an insurrection.

No, you are once again stuck on some left field point that is not pertinent to the situation. Global Billionaires???? What are you talking about. No, don't tell us, please I can only imagine what Bannon-esque conspiracy theory it is.

We are talking ICE tactics. What they are doing in MN is not working.

By the way, you may want to re-read your post. Stand


Who do you think is funding these protests? It costs money - a lot of it. It's actually not even a remotely hidden secret.

Why is ICE deploying these particular tactics in Minnesota?

Why is no other state having similar issues?

Do you think cities and states should be allowed to not only disregard but also actively interfere with the Constitutional duties of the federal government?

(Who wants to take a bet on whether he answers any of these?)
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Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.

Why do you think no other state is having these problems?

Why do you think these tactics are being deployed in Minnesota?

What would be required to make the deportation of illegal immigrant child molesters "humane?" Do child molesters deserve said treatment?

This is a strawman, we all want illegal immigrant violent criminals deported. They don't deserve protection.

What I am tired of seeing is citizens and legal immigrants harrassed, drug out their cars and beaten, taken into custody, then 10 hours later released with no recourse.

They need to ACTUALLY do targeted enforcement and stop going door to door just fishing.

Also 3000 officers in a city of 400K would be overwhelming and disruptive. My town of similar population have around 400 officers and it seem like I see them around every corner, imagine 8X that many on the street.

I guess the difference is given the level of knowing disinformation promoted by radical leftists, I honestly do not believe there are significant instances of citizens and legal immigrants being harassed. It is similar to the "voter ID laws prevent citizens from lawfully voting." No one has produced a single person who was legally eligible to vote but denied because of not having an ID. I am not doubting ICE has made mistakes, I would need some pretty clear, objective evidence of widespread citizens and legal immigrants being randomly pulled out of homes and cars. This is classic Orwellian disinformation funded by global billionaires and their media allies.

Do you know why ICE is executing its mission in Minneapolis the way it is?

Why do you think we're not having any issues in any other state?

1) I'm sure the official reason would be immigrant fraud and lack of cooperation from local police. Looking at the administration's official response to incidents in Minnesota I'm not sure I trust a word they say.

2 Illinois, NY, Colorado and other blue states have reported issues. South of Austin, Kyle and Buda officials have reported issues. One Judge from Austin did an online press documenting the many issues he had with ICE deployment. Other states and cities have reported issues with ICE.

Yes, virtually all complains are blue states or blue cities in Austin's case.
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Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.



Nope. You violent leftists don't get to attack law enforcement and then pretend the consequences are the problem.

Which is why your attitude would never actually get anything done. What is more important the mission or "you don't get to"?

You think if they keep this up that ICE is just going to be able to keep doing this? Your attitude is counter-productive, IF the mission is getting rid of illegals.



You have this idiotic belief that you could magically get democrats to stop being violent towards any law enforcement agency enforcing the law while Trump is president. You cannot. The protests are the point. Not police brutality. Not mean ICE agents deporting poor little brown toilet scrubbers and lawnmowers. The point is to create problems for Trump's administration. Two groups of leftists; ones who know that the disruption is the point and the other group is the rest of you idiots who are gullible enough to believe the first group.

No, I don't. But I know how DC works and if we want to continue deporting illegal aliens that came in under Biden, I am more interested in the Chinese than the migrant worker, then concessions have to be made.

When Congress investigates, and they will after yesterday, standing pat and blaming Democrats is the quickest way to get shut down. Half the people in DC, who fund this, are Democrats. They need a win, just like Trump needs a win. Get it.

You do not thrive going full out Brownshirts and being non-responsive to concerns of overstepping Constitutional rights. Holman and his tactics will play well on the Border, but not on American streets. Think of the movie A Few Good Men and Holman is Jack Nicholson.

What they do not have an answer to is a response that says we investigated and made the following changes to ensure this doesn't happen. What we need is Congress to help with the MN Governor... If Congress see Good Faith effort, then the GOP and Trump have cover. Right now, they are politically exposed. And that is not what you want in an election year.

Collins is about to get it in ME and the GOP is going to lose a Senatorial seat. Why ME?

Haven't you guys ever had to work in an oversight environment - elected officials, Board of Directors? It is all about providing cover while accomplishing the mission.
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FLBear5630 said:
Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.



Nope. You violent leftists don't get to attack law enforcement and then pretend the consequences are the problem.

Which is why your attitude would never actually get anything done. What is more important the mission or "you don't get to"?

You think if they keep this up that ICE is just going to be able to keep doing this? Your attitude is counter-productive, IF the mission is getting rid of illegals.



You have this idiotic belief that you could magically get democrats to stop being violent towards any law enforcement agency enforcing the law while Trump is president. You cannot. The protests are the point. Not police brutality. Not mean ICE agents deporting poor little brown toilet scrubbers and lawnmowers. The point is to create problems for Trump's administration. Two groups of leftists; ones who know that the disruption is the point and the other group is the rest of you idiots who are gullible enough to believe the first group.

No, I don't. But I know how DC works and if we want to continue deporting illegal aliens that came in under Biden, I am more interested in the Chinese than the migrant worker, then concessions have to be made.

When Congress investigates, and they will after yesterday, standing pat and blaming Democrats is the quickest way to get shut down. Half the people in DC, who fund this, are Democrats. They need a win, just like Trump needs a win. Get it.

You do not thrive going full out Brownshirts and being non-responsive to concerns of overstepping Constitutional rights. Holman and his tactics will play well on the Border, but not on American streets. Think of the movie A Few Good Men and Holman is Jack Nicholson.

What they do not have an answer to is a response that says we investigated and made the following changes to ensure this doesn't happen. What we need is Congress to help with the MN Governor... If Congress see Good Faith effort, then the GOP and Trump have cover. Right now, they are politically exposed. And that is not what you want in an election year.

Collins is about to get it in ME and the GOP is going to lose a Senatorial seat. Why ME?

Haven't you guys ever had to work in an oversight environment - elected officials, Board of Directors? It is all about providing cover while accomplishing the mission.
What a load of feces. In case you have not noticed. It's YOU violent democrats that are the brownshirts. You're out assaulting federal agents because you don't like that your party lost and now immigration laws are be g enforced. You want to pretend it's ICE's fault that you idiots keep getting hurt and killed as a result of your decision to interfere with and impede law enforcement. No, republicans do NOT need to change, Trump doesn't need to apologize or change and ICE doesn't need to change tactics. DEMOCRATS NEED TO STOP IMPEDING LAW ENFORCEMENT. That's it. That's the solution. Everything else you suggest is just rewarding the lawless violent left.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Insurrection time yet?

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In reply to Forest Bueller III • 2:09p, 1/25/26
With respect ……

A. There is no way to have firm estimates in the number of illegals in each community. As from personal experience I can tell you they move throughout the country.
B. Even if there were….the administration has repeatedly stated ICE was going to prioritize the bad boys first. And I have no doubt there are a disproportionate number of bad boys in Minneapolis.
Approximately 3-7 billion worth.


Clean em out .
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Forest Bueller III said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.

Why do you think no other state is having these problems?

Why do you think these tactics are being deployed in Minnesota?

What would be required to make the deportation of illegal immigrant child molesters "humane?" Do child molesters deserve said treatment?

This is a strawman, we all want illegal immigrant violent criminals deported. They don't deserve protection.

What I am tired of seeing is citizens and legal immigrants harrassed, drug out their cars and beaten, taken into custody, then 10 hours later released with no recourse.

They need to ACTUALLY do targeted enforcement and stop going door to door just fishing.

Also 3000 officers in a city of 400K would be overwhelming and disruptive. My town of similar population have around 400 officers and it seem like I see them around every corner, imagine 8X that many on the street.

I guess the difference is given the level of knowing disinformation promoted by radical leftists, I honestly do not believe there are significant instances of citizens and legal immigrants being harassed. It is similar to the "voter ID laws prevent citizens from lawfully voting." No one has produced a single person who was legally eligible to vote but denied because of not having an ID. I am not doubting ICE has made mistakes, I would need some pretty clear, objective evidence of widespread citizens and legal immigrants being randomly pulled out of homes and cars. This is classic Orwellian disinformation funded by global billionaires and their media allies.

Do you know why ICE is executing its mission in Minneapolis the way it is?

Why do you think we're not having any issues in any other state?

1) I'm sure the official reason would be immigrant fraud and lack of cooperation from local police. Looking at the administration's official response to incidents in Minnesota I'm not sure I trust a word they say.

2 Illinois, NY, Colorado and other blue states have reported issues. South of Austin, Kyle and Buda officials have reported issues. One Judge from Austin did an online press documenting the many issues he had with ICE deployment. Other states and cities have reported issues with ICE.

Yes, virtually all complains are blue states or blue cities in Austin's case.

The answer is actually simple. The ICE operations in Minnesota are a direct result of Minneapolis being a so-called "sanctuary city" and refusing to cooperate with federal authorities. Traditionally, if local law enforcement arrested an illegal alien, in many or most cases then that person would be turned over to ICE for appropriate action. Minneapolis' refusal to do this is why ICE is doing separate operations. The Democrat leadership of Minneapolis encouraging and funding an insurrection is why these incidents occur. All of this is related.
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In reply to whiterock • 2:17p, 1/25/26
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Insurrection time yet?



This should be only mildly surprising to us

I think if you get under the hood and look around you would find deep amounts of coordination and even possible financial assistance being conducted by Minnesota State officials….all going to help sustain these "protests" and harass and interfere with Federal law enforcement
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Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Wangchung said:
FLBear5630 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference

This calls two questions: a practical one and a philosophical one.

Practically, you're 100% right - there is so much intentional, coordinated disinformation from the oligarch media that it is a losing political fight.

Philosophically, do you surrender to globalist billionaires funding an insurrection and sowing violent dissent and states being funded to drive insurrection against democracy? Where is that line drawn?

The line is drawn not losing the forest over a tree.

The MN operation is costing more than it is producing. The negatives are detracting from the mission. If it is fine in Texas, FL, and WV keep it up. Areas it is not, time to find out how to keep doing the mission without the negatives.

It may mean Homan and Walz sitting down and BOTH compromising. It may mean the FBI or Marshalls running point on the mission. Somethng that shows they are concerned.



Nope. You violent leftists don't get to attack law enforcement and then pretend the consequences are the problem.

Which is why your attitude would never actually get anything done. What is more important the mission or "you don't get to"?

You think if they keep this up that ICE is just going to be able to keep doing this? Your attitude is counter-productive, IF the mission is getting rid of illegals.



You have this idiotic belief that you could magically get democrats to stop being violent towards any law enforcement agency enforcing the law while Trump is president. You cannot. The protests are the point. Not police brutality. Not mean ICE agents deporting poor little brown toilet scrubbers and lawnmowers. The point is to create problems for Trump's administration. Two groups of leftists; ones who know that the disruption is the point and the other group is the rest of you idiots who are gullible enough to believe the first group.

No, I don't. But I know how DC works and if we want to continue deporting illegal aliens that came in under Biden, I am more interested in the Chinese than the migrant worker, then concessions have to be made.

When Congress investigates, and they will after yesterday, standing pat and blaming Democrats is the quickest way to get shut down. Half the people in DC, who fund this, are Democrats. They need a win, just like Trump needs a win. Get it.

You do not thrive going full out Brownshirts and being non-responsive to concerns of overstepping Constitutional rights. Holman and his tactics will play well on the Border, but not on American streets. Think of the movie A Few Good Men and Holman is Jack Nicholson.

What they do not have an answer to is a response that says we investigated and made the following changes to ensure this doesn't happen. What we need is Congress to help with the MN Governor... If Congress see Good Faith effort, then the GOP and Trump have cover. Right now, they are politically exposed. And that is not what you want in an election year.

Collins is about to get it in ME and the GOP is going to lose a Senatorial seat. Why ME?

Haven't you guys ever had to work in an oversight environment - elected officials, Board of Directors? It is all about providing cover while accomplishing the mission.

What a load of feces. In case you have not noticed. It's YOU violent democrats that are the brownshirts. You're out assaulting federal agents because you don't like that your party lost and now immigration laws are be g enforced. You want to pretend it's ICE's fault that you idiots keep getting hurt and killed as a result of your decision to interfere with and impede law enforcement. No, republicans do NOT need to change, Trump doesn't need to apologize or change and ICE doesn't need to change tactics. DEMOCRATS NEED TO STOP IMPEDING LAW ENFORCEMENT. That's it. That's the solution. Everything else you suggest is just rewarding the lawless violent left.

It is ALWAYS projection and tribal idiocracy with these people. They celebrate a Didn't Earn It cop with a poor record killing a veteran but lose their mind when an armed, paid protester is killed during his interference with lawful law enforcement. They love insurrection - only care about those team is doing it.
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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 2:23p, 1/25/26
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.

Why do you think no other state is having these problems?

Why do you think these tactics are being deployed in Minnesota?

What would be required to make the deportation of illegal immigrant child molesters "humane?" Do child molesters deserve said treatment?

This is a strawman, we all want illegal immigrant violent criminals deported. They don't deserve protection.

What I am tired of seeing is citizens and legal immigrants harrassed, drug out their cars and beaten, taken into custody, then 10 hours later released with no recourse.

They need to ACTUALLY do targeted enforcement and stop going door to door just fishing.

Also 3000 officers in a city of 400K would be overwhelming and disruptive. My town of similar population have around 400 officers and it seem like I see them around every corner, imagine 8X that many on the street.

I guess the difference is given the level of knowing disinformation promoted by radical leftists, I honestly do not believe there are significant instances of citizens and legal immigrants being harassed. It is similar to the "voter ID laws prevent citizens from lawfully voting." No one has produced a single person who was legally eligible to vote but denied because of not having an ID. I am not doubting ICE has made mistakes, I would need some pretty clear, objective evidence of widespread citizens and legal immigrants being randomly pulled out of homes and cars. This is classic Orwellian disinformation funded by global billionaires and their media allies.

Do you know why ICE is executing its mission in Minneapolis the way it is?

Why do you think we're not having any issues in any other state?

1) I'm sure the official reason would be immigrant fraud and lack of cooperation from local police. Looking at the administration's official response to incidents in Minnesota I'm not sure I trust a word they say.

2 Illinois, NY, Colorado and other blue states have reported issues. South of Austin, Kyle and Buda officials have reported issues. One Judge from Austin did an online press documenting the many issues he had with ICE deployment. Other states and cities have reported issues with ICE.

Yes, virtually all complains are blue states or blue cities in Austin's case.

The answer is actually simple. The ICE operations in Minnesota are a direct result of Minneapolis being a so-called "sanctuary city" and refusing to cooperate with federal authorities. Traditionally, if local law enforcement arrested an illegal alien, in many or most cases then that person would be turned over to ICE for appropriate action. Minneapolis' refusal to do this is why ICE is doing separate operations. The Democrat leadership of Minneapolis encouraging and funding an insurrection is why these incidents occur. All of this is related.

Ok, even if that is true how does that change the realities of the situation?

You keep going as is and if ICE shoots or maces or beats protestors more power to them?

This is why the midterms are going to be bad for the GOP...
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Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
Forest Bueller III said:
FLBear5630 said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
Redbrickbear said:
Forest Bueller III said:
midgett said:


(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.

Why do you think no other state is having these problems?

Why do you think these tactics are being deployed in Minnesota?

What would be required to make the deportation of illegal immigrant child molesters "humane?" Do child molesters deserve said treatment?

This is a strawman, we all want illegal immigrant violent criminals deported. They don't deserve protection.

What I am tired of seeing is citizens and legal immigrants harrassed, drug out their cars and beaten, taken into custody, then 10 hours later released with no recourse.

They need to ACTUALLY do targeted enforcement and stop going door to door just fishing.

Also 3000 officers in a city of 400K would be overwhelming and disruptive. My town of similar population have around 400 officers and it seem like I see them around every corner, imagine 8X that many on the street.

I guess the difference is given the level of knowing disinformation promoted by radical leftists, I honestly do not believe there are significant instances of citizens and legal immigrants being harassed. It is similar to the "voter ID laws prevent citizens from lawfully voting." No one has produced a single person who was legally eligible to vote but denied because of not having an ID. I am not doubting ICE has made mistakes, I would need some pretty clear, objective evidence of widespread citizens and legal immigrants being randomly pulled out of homes and cars. This is classic Orwellian disinformation funded by global billionaires and their media allies.

Do you know why ICE is executing its mission in Minneapolis the way it is?

Why do you think we're not having any issues in any other state?

1) I'm sure the official reason would be immigrant fraud and lack of cooperation from local police. Looking at the administration's official response to incidents in Minnesota I'm not sure I trust a word they say.

2 Illinois, NY, Colorado and other blue states have reported issues. South of Austin, Kyle and Buda officials have reported issues. One Judge from Austin did an online press documenting the many issues he had with ICE deployment. Other states and cities have reported issues with ICE.

Yes, virtually all complains are blue states or blue cities in Austin's case.

The answer is actually simple. The ICE operations in Minnesota are a direct result of Minneapolis being a so-called "sanctuary city" and refusing to cooperate with federal authorities. Traditionally, if local law enforcement arrested an illegal alien, in many or most cases then that person would be turned over to ICE for appropriate action. Minneapolis' refusal to do this is why ICE is doing separate operations. The Democrat leadership of Minneapolis encouraging and funding an insurrection is why these incidents occur. All of this is related.

Ok, even if that is true how does that change the realities of the situation?

You keep going as is and if ICE shoots or maces or beats protestors more power to them?

This is why the midterms are going to be bad for the GOP...

So you think Minneapolis is lying when it brags about being a sanctuary city?

Do you support elected officials actively fomenting insurrection against lawful federal law enforcement?

Politically, you're right. I have stated previously I would actively send all illegal alien criminals to these radical cities and let their people and politicians enjoy their presence.
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Tim Walz and the other radicals are to blame. There is a reason this is only happening in one place.

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Hilarious. The positive of social media is we're not dependent on the oligarchs to tell us what to believe.

We have a governor and a mayor summoning open resistance to thwart arrests of criminal illegal aliens subject to deportation orders, and somehow the resulting riots are simultaneously bad policy badly executed, even though deportation of criminal illegal aliens was the issue that decided the the 2024 election, and no other state is seeing a MN-style riot problem.

I think the admin and ICE are doing better than satisfactory.


That is outright disgusting. Makes it seem killing Americans is a sign of progress.
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(I haven't verified the data but it wouldn't surprise me

Texas does have 18 times the illegal population Minnesota has, so there should be 18 times the arrests. So the arrest numbers aren't unusual.

Texas has 1.6 million illegals. Maine only has 5 thousand, yet I hear they are a new target.

With Trump targeting seems to be politically motivated.



Texas government is helping and cooperating with Federal authorities to deport illegals found inside Texas

So no need for direct ICE operations on the streets (thought they actually still sometimes take place)

In States that refuse to help or try to hinder Federal law the reason is thus not political but rational

PS

Maine has a Republican senator and a Independent Senator and it's State House of Representatives is 74 D vs 72 R

And Trump only lost the State by a few percentage points in the last election

Not exactly a place that is "anti-Trump" or that he would have any reasons to target

ICE in there because the Democratic governor is impeding Federal immigration laws and won't help. And because there is a lot of Somali fraud there

"December 2025, Maine Gov. Mills allowed a bill to become law that limits how state and local police can collaborate with federal immigration authorities"

That sounds fairly reasonable. But, with 5K illegals in the entire state there are better uses of resources. Only WV, Montana, and Wyoming have less illegals.

Trump still targets states/people politically. I get it, he has been targeted for over a decade now.


It's simply an easily verifiable fact that the administration is not specifically "targeting" these places.

Maybe resources would be better other places… but maybe not



And there is Maine with a better than average arrest record.

West Virginia is the champion no doubt. Don't mess with West Virginia.

The issue is not with the arrests or even the resources, it is the tactics. How they are doing it is problematic.

Maybe the tactics in the Red States, and Maine, are fine. The Blue States may need a different set of tactics. Maybe cookie cutter is not the way to go.

What is being done in MN is not working. Time to step back, re-assess and change tactics before more people are shot.

OR, that is the point. This is meant to break them, so they don't care how many get shot. Based on the last Press Conference, I am leaning toward this is meant to intimidate and break their will.


Typical FBI Press Conference





I agree 100% what they are doing in Minnesota is not humane in any way.

The lies the administration is forwarding about this most recent killing is reprehensible.

Why do you think no other state is having these problems?

Why do you think these tactics are being deployed in Minnesota?

What would be required to make the deportation of illegal immigrant child molesters "humane?" Do child molesters deserve said treatment?

This is a strawman, we all want illegal immigrant violent criminals deported. They don't deserve protection.

What I am tired of seeing is citizens and legal immigrants harrassed, drug out their cars and beaten, taken into custody, then 10 hours later released with no recourse.

They need to ACTUALLY do targeted enforcement and stop going door to door just fishing.

Also 3000 officers in a city of 400K would be overwhelming and disruptive. My town of similar population have around 400 officers and it seem like I see them around every corner, imagine 8X that many on the street.

I guess the difference is given the level of knowing disinformation promoted by radical leftists, I honestly do not believe there are significant instances of citizens and legal immigrants being harassed. It is similar to the "voter ID laws prevent citizens from lawfully voting." No one has produced a single person who was legally eligible to vote but denied because of not having an ID. I am not doubting ICE has made mistakes, I would need some pretty clear, objective evidence of widespread citizens and legal immigrants being randomly pulled out of homes and cars. This is classic Orwellian disinformation funded by global billionaires and their media allies.

Do you know why ICE is executing its mission in Minneapolis the way it is?

Why do you think we're not having any issues in any other state?

1) I'm sure the official reason would be immigrant fraud and lack of cooperation from local police. Looking at the administration's official response to incidents in Minnesota I'm not sure I trust a word they say.

2 Illinois, NY, Colorado and other blue states have reported issues. South of Austin, Kyle and Buda officials have reported issues. One Judge from Austin did an online press documenting the many issues he had with ICE deployment. Other states and cities have reported issues with ICE.

Yes, virtually all complains are blue states or blue cities in Austin's case.

The answer is actually simple. The ICE operations in Minnesota are a direct result of Minneapolis being a so-called "sanctuary city" and refusing to cooperate with federal authorities. Traditionally, if local law enforcement arrested an illegal alien, in many or most cases then that person would be turned over to ICE for appropriate action. Minneapolis' refusal to do this is why ICE is doing separate operations. The Democrat leadership of Minneapolis encouraging and funding an insurrection is why these incidents occur. All of this is related.

Ok, even if that is true how does that change the realities of the situation?

You keep going as is and if ICE shoots or maces or beats protestors more power to them?

This is why the midterms are going to be bad for the GOP...

So you think Minneapolis is lying when it brags about being a sanctuary city?

Do you support elected officials actively fomenting insurrection against lawful federal law enforcement?

Politically, you're right. I have stated previously I would actively send all illegal alien criminals to these radical cities and let their people and politicians enjoy their presence.


I do agree, on both counts. But there are political realities and numbers realities. Trump has to take a mote centrist path domestically. Foreign relations, he does have more leeway.

They need to be careful in ME. Collins may be a pain, but she counts as GOP.
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