President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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boognish_bear
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Why does he have to mention that the US may do something "with or without the consent of Israel"?

KaiBear
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At this moment Israel might have a better / more comprehensive battle plan than anyone.

We should be following their example .
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Realitybites said:

Iran strikes Israel with massive missile attack, Gulf energy on fire, oil price hits $110

Iran has intensified its strikes on Israel, firing missiles toward Tel Aviv and Ben Gurion Airport. The attacks come in response to the killing of Iranian Intelligence Minister Esmail Khatib, top security official Ali Larijani, and Brigadier General Gholamreza Soleimani, the commander of the Basij paramilitary force.

It is rare to get video out of Israel given that regime's blackout on news, so you take what you can get.

Looks like the airport is getting hit pretty hard.

Link to Video

screw Izzy. Trump is a pawn for Izzy. Let the go at it alone period.
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KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

KaiBear said:

BearFan33 said:

Kent did this correctly. If your boss is going in directions you can't support and won't listen to your advice, you resign. You don't resist and undermine like the embedded democrats do.

He's setting himself up for some good talk show money if he choses to go that route.

The conflict drags on. Trump desperately needs oil flow to continue through the straight for political reasons. I'm wondering why we don't escort ships through. I suspect it's currently too risky for our very expensive naval ships. Even if Japan was to mobilize their navy (which is probably modest) how long would it take to get there?

Iran is like if we are going down, we are going to make everyone feel the pain. Is droning the Gulf countries igoing to backfire? We will see.

This is going to really strain relations within NATO and the Ukraine war. Next time Ukraine comes with its hand out, I suspect Trump is going to send them to Europe and rightfully so.


The US economy has its own oil reserves.

Japan, India , China and most of Europe are the ones that need access through the Straits the most.

Past time to bomb Iranian oil facilities.

It's the obvious target.



Squeezing out Iranian supply squeezes everyone's supply, and thus price inflation.

Good grief......it s real ****ing war we are dealing with.

The goal is regime change otherwise these mullah's are going to just keep up their crap.

Bomb the Iranian oil fields and the locals will demand a new government when they begin to go hungry.

Really think the United States gave a **** about price inflaction when we were sinking the huge Japanese oil tanker fleet ?



When the boots hit the ground is when the war becomes really real. Perhaps understanding it isn't oil keeping them in power would be a good perspective for you. This is a nation that has spent decades under economic hardship. They are beholden to an ideology, and our Israeli bilateral war with them confirms to many their Friday prayer chants. You'd serve the purpose of regime change more by carpet bombing Tehran and Qom than taking out oil facilities. There's no appetite for such brutality, so if you just want to aggravate the global economic situation thus putting more pressure on the US to pull out, then sure, take out their oil infrastructure.


The goal is regime change.

Thankfully Israel is killing an unprecedented number of Iranian political and military leaders. The US has destroyed the Iranians air force and navy.

If this does not produce regime change immediately…..time to increase the pressure.

Privation of an enemies population always works.

Fire bombing civilian populations.
Unrestricted submarine warfare
Naval blockades.

The US has a long history of applying such tactics…. because they work. Destruction of Iranian oil facilities will shock the entire Iranian population and make them realize they have lost the war and regime change is necessary.

By the way……war is always brutal……the lack of a draft has insulated 90% of Americans from that bloody reality.

Such tactics almost never work and usually have the opposite effect. That's one reason the US now has a long history of losing wars.


The US has a long history of winning wars……dumbass.

Although the US does have a habit of ****ing up the following peace terms.

We win battles, not so much wars.
Oldbear83
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Fake POTUS Sam, ladies and gentlemen
boognish_bear
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Sounds not great if accurate...



I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if infrastructure like this gets blown up, as of this moment it will take at least a decade to recover from this war - and the truth is that the world's energy picture is probably changed forever.

This single facility produced roughly 20% of global LNG supply (aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/18…) and, as of 2011, had taken $70 billion to build (energyintel.com/0000017b-a7be-…).

What makes this even worse is that Iran's strike on this was retaliation after Israel attacked their South Pars gas field which draws from the same natural gas reservoir, which is the world's largest by far (9,700 km - about the size of Qatar itself).

Heck, on the list of the 25 largest natural gas fields (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n…) this single reservoir holds roughly 40% of their combined recoverable reserves - and is nearly 6 times bigger than the 2nd biggest field in the world. And, unlike many of the others on the list, it's only at 10% depletion (meaning 90% of the gas is still there).

Which means that, probably for many years, a huge share of the gas from the world's largest reservoir simply won't be extractable, as infrastructure on both sides - Qatar's and Iran's - has now been blown up.

From a global energy supply perspective, we're deep into worst-case scenario territory.
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KaiBear
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Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

Sam Lowry said:

KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

KaiBear said:

ATL Bear said:

KaiBear said:

BearFan33 said:

Kent did this correctly. If your boss is going in directions you can't support and won't listen to your advice, you resign. You don't resist and undermine like the embedded democrats do.

He's setting himself up for some good talk show money if he choses to go that route.

The conflict drags on. Trump desperately needs oil flow to continue through the straight for political reasons. I'm wondering why we don't escort ships through. I suspect it's currently too risky for our very expensive naval ships. Even if Japan was to mobilize their navy (which is probably modest) how long would it take to get there?

Iran is like if we are going down, we are going to make everyone feel the pain. Is droning the Gulf countries igoing to backfire? We will see.

This is going to really strain relations within NATO and the Ukraine war. Next time Ukraine comes with its hand out, I suspect Trump is going to send them to Europe and rightfully so.


The US economy has its own oil reserves.

Japan, India , China and most of Europe are the ones that need access through the Straits the most.

Past time to bomb Iranian oil facilities.

It's the obvious target.



Squeezing out Iranian supply squeezes everyone's supply, and thus price inflation.

Good grief......it s real ****ing war we are dealing with.

The goal is regime change otherwise these mullah's are going to just keep up their crap.

Bomb the Iranian oil fields and the locals will demand a new government when they begin to go hungry.

Really think the United States gave a **** about price inflaction when we were sinking the huge Japanese oil tanker fleet ?



When the boots hit the ground is when the war becomes really real. Perhaps understanding it isn't oil keeping them in power would be a good perspective for you. This is a nation that has spent decades under economic hardship. They are beholden to an ideology, and our Israeli bilateral war with them confirms to many their Friday prayer chants. You'd serve the purpose of regime change more by carpet bombing Tehran and Qom than taking out oil facilities. There's no appetite for such brutality, so if you just want to aggravate the global economic situation thus putting more pressure on the US to pull out, then sure, take out their oil infrastructure.


The goal is regime change.

Thankfully Israel is killing an unprecedented number of Iranian political and military leaders. The US has destroyed the Iranians air force and navy.

If this does not produce regime change immediately…..time to increase the pressure.

Privation of an enemies population always works.

Fire bombing civilian populations.
Unrestricted submarine warfare
Naval blockades.

The US has a long history of applying such tactics…. because they work. Destruction of Iranian oil facilities will shock the entire Iranian population and make them realize they have lost the war and regime change is necessary.

By the way……war is always brutal……the lack of a draft has insulated 90% of Americans from that bloody reality.

Such tactics almost never work and usually have the opposite effect. That's one reason the US now has a long history of losing wars.


The US has a long history of winning wars……dumbass.

Although the US does have a habit of ****ing up the following peace terms.

We win battles, not so much wars.


Dumb troll.

The record is far in our favor .



J.R.
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boognish_bear said:

Sounds not great if accurate...



I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if infrastructure like this gets blown up, as of this moment it will take at least a decade to recover from this war - and the truth is that the world's energy picture is probably changed forever.

This single facility produced roughly 20% of global LNG supply (aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/18…) and, as of 2011, had taken $70 billion to build (energyintel.com/0000017b-a7be-…).

What makes this even worse is that Iran's strike on this was retaliation after Israel attacked their South Pars gas field which draws from the same natural gas reservoir, which is the world's largest by far (9,700 km - about the size of Qatar itself).

Heck, on the list of the 25 largest natural gas fields (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n…) this single reservoir holds roughly 40% of their combined recoverable reserves - and is nearly 6 times bigger than the 2nd biggest field in the world. And, unlike many of the others on the list, it's only at 10% depletion (meaning 90% of the gas is still there).

Which means that, probably for many years, a huge share of the gas from the world's largest reservoir simply won't be extractable, as infrastructure on both sides - Qatar's and Iran's - has now been blown up.

From a global energy supply perspective, we're deep into worst-case scenario territory.

you are 100% spot on. Maga turds up in here don't believe it cuz piggy told them to. I just hope MAGA enjoys $5 gasoline. this little liberal as some call me, I'm laughing all the way to the bank. Hell, I need to ease up on piggy. I've made a bloody fortune playing the TACO trade! Damn, I love to make $ off MAGA. yall enjoy your gasoline.
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The_barBEARian
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It isnt the Anglos doing this... The Anglos lost control of this country in the 60ties...


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War seems to always go off the rails and spiral out of control.
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Doc Holliday said:

War seems to always go off the rails and spiral out of control.



War is often chaotic.

As there are far too many variables to control 100% of the time.

However up to this point there can be no reasonable view other than Iran is getting the living **** beat out of them.

Can not remember of any war in history where the top three levels of an enemies political and military leadership has been slaughtered.

Must less all killed in the first three weeks of a war.

J.R.
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just saw where BroWar-lil Petey said gonna be at least $200B. It takes a lot of $ to kill bad guys, per lil Petey. Glad we can afford $200B. Howdy deficit.
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J.R. said:

just saw where BroWar-lil Petey said gonna be at least $200B. It takes a lot of $ to kill bad guys, per lil Petey. Glad we can afford $200B. Howdy deficit.


Are you starting to understand why I got so pissed off about paying high taxes?... and the very idea I should have to pay even more?

With the amount of money this government wastes ... I am amazed there hasn't been another revolution already.
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KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

War seems to always go off the rails and spiral out of control.



War is often chaotic.

As there are far too many variables to control 100% of the time.

However up to this point there can be no reasonable view other than Iran is getting the living **** beat out of them.

Can not remember of any war in history where the top three levels of an enemies political and military leadership has been slaughtered.

Must less all killed in the first three weeks of a war.




As we learned in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam winning or losing often comes down to more than a scoreboard.
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J.R. said:

just saw where BroWar-lil Petey said gonna be at least $200B. It takes a lot of $ to kill bad guys, per lil Petey. Glad we can afford $200B. Howdy deficit.


That's in line with the 11 billion a week number we have already spent combined with estimates that the war is going to last six months or so.
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Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.
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muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.


Higher inflation from higher energy costs and higher inflation from the government printing 200 billion to continue a war that cant be won... Trump is rapidly becoming GW Bush 2.0
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J.R. said:

I just hope MAGA enjoys $5 gasoline.


$5...Unleaded is $8 a gallon at the most expensive station in the California. Diesel will be closing in on $6 a gallon here in red state America this week.

Can someone call Pam Blondi and ask her if the Dow is still at 50,000 dollars?
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muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.
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KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.

Ya, and my drone defense stock stands to do pretty well. I just dont like seeing $4 gas and i'm driving to Florida tomorrow and its already 3.59 around here.
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J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:

Sounds not great if accurate...



I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if infrastructure like this gets blown up, as of this moment it will take at least a decade to recover from this war - and the truth is that the world's energy picture is probably changed forever.

This single facility produced roughly 20% of global LNG supply (aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/18…) and, as of 2011, had taken $70 billion to build (energyintel.com/0000017b-a7be-…).

What makes this even worse is that Iran's strike on this was retaliation after Israel attacked their South Pars gas field which draws from the same natural gas reservoir, which is the world's largest by far (9,700 km - about the size of Qatar itself).

Heck, on the list of the 25 largest natural gas fields (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_n…) this single reservoir holds roughly 40% of their combined recoverable reserves - and is nearly 6 times bigger than the 2nd biggest field in the world. And, unlike many of the others on the list, it's only at 10% depletion (meaning 90% of the gas is still there).

Which means that, probably for many years, a huge share of the gas from the world's largest reservoir simply won't be extractable, as infrastructure on both sides - Qatar's and Iran's - has now been blown up.

From a global energy supply perspective, we're deep into worst-case scenario territory.

you are 100% spot on. Maga turds up in here don't believe it cuz piggy told them to. I just hope MAGA enjoys $5 gasoline. this little liberal as some call me, I'm laughing all the way to the bank. Hell, I need to ease up on piggy. I've made a bloody fortune playing the TACO trade! Damn, I love to make $ off MAGA. yall enjoy your gasoline.

Good for you.

At least someone is happy with the prospects of 6 dollar a gallon gas.

We are just using our electric Ford Mustang whenever feasible.
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muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.

I just dont like seeing $4 gas

Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Doc Holliday said:

War seems to always go off the rails and spiral out of control.



Trump goes off the rails, This is typical Trump. Starts strong, follow through horrific.
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Sam Lowry said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.

I just dont like seeing $4 gas

Enjoy it while it lasts.

if it goes higher than that then you will see serious backlash among those who still support this failing version of maga.
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muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.

Ya, and my drone defense stock stands to do pretty well. I just dont like seeing $4 gas and i'm driving to Florida tomorrow and its already 3.59 around here.

Again, this is a real war., and we are dominating the enemy.

If a few months of 6 dollar gas is our biggest problem as a result of destroying Iran.......count your blessings.

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KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.


Not anytime soon. Most domestic LNG projects are years behind and over budget. There is very little export capacity online currently. Might help long term, might get a few projects to FID. Will still be years until capacity meaningfully starts to increase.
muddybrazos
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KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:

KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.

Ya, and my drone defense stock stands to do pretty well. I just dont like seeing $4 gas and i'm driving to Florida tomorrow and its already 3.59 around here.

Again, this is a real war., and we are dominating the enemy.

If a few months of 6 dollar gas is our biggest problem as a result of destroying Iran.......count your blessings.



Did Iraq last a few months? I seem to recall it was like 20 or so years.
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The_barBEARian said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.


Higher inflation from higher energy costs and higher inflation from the government printing 200 billion to continue a war that cant be won... Trump is rapidly becoming GW Bush 2.0

At least Dubya was responding to an attack on us. Trump is responding to flattery from Bebe.
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303Bear said:

KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.


Not anytime soon. Most domestic LNG projects are years behind and over budget. There is very little export capacity online currently. Might help long term, might get a few projects to FID. Will still be years until capacity meaningfully starts to increase.

That's disappointing. They could be making $$$$
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KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.


You like to talk about what we did during WW2... well we may need to nationalize them
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303Bear said:

KaiBear said:

muddybrazos said:



Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.


Not anytime soon. Most domestic LNG projects are years behind and over budget. There is very little export capacity online currently. Might help long term, might get a few projects to FID. Will still be years until capacity meaningfully starts to increase.
Wouldn't the scarcity of competition make funding those budgets realistic? Seems like necessity would fuel the development of capacity.
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