TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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No hate for my RC brothers in Christ, but their papacy is intent on selling the world out to the globalist Satanists.

Sticking his head in politics under the guise of a false peace religion, bending the knee to Islam in some ways, making up false doctrine about military use, attacking conservatives, ignoring the plight of the Iranian people, defending the mass illegal immigration and the harm it does to communities, etc. It's a One way ticket to heavily progressive societies, resulting in Godlessness.

I get the RC's will rush to nuance their way in defense of the man, but it rings hollow.

Last, Christ will here the prayers of the God fearing soldiers.

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Then enemy within is dying off in time and new blood is flooding in. The gates of hell shall not prevail against her.

To keep the faith When it is difficult is truly an amazing virtue

Keep the faith!

Theres never been a better time to be Catholic frankly!!! What a fortunate gift to have been born with praise God!

Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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No hate for my RC brothers in Christ, but their papacy is intent on selling the world out to the globalist Satanists.

Sticking his head in politics under the guise of a false peace religion, bending the knee to Islam in some ways, making up false doctrine about military use, attacking conservatives, ignoring the plight of the Iranian people, defending the mass illegal immigration and the harm it does to communities, etc. It's a One way ticket to heavily progressive societies, resulting in Godlessness.

I get the RC's will rush to nuance their way in defense of the man, but it rings hollow.

Last, Christ will here the prayers of the God fearing soldiers.

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No need to bore anyone with nuance. Church doctrine on military use is true and just. The rationale for the war and the supposed concern for the Iranian people are simply false.

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Agreed. Never heard any lefties say this until the last 2 months though which is amusing.

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I do think he is especially political, perhaps unwisely so, but you cannot seriously think he was going to condone warfare? He is saying the same basic thing Catholics have said for quite some time. They got their Crusades outta their system long ago. The Protestants just trying to catch up.

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Ahhhh the old ignorance of the Crusades thing that kept your name from being Mohammad

Fre3dombear said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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No hate for my RC brothers in Christ, but their papacy is intent on selling the world out to the globalist Satanists.

Sticking his head in politics under the guise of a false peace religion, bending the knee to Islam in some ways, making up false doctrine about military use, attacking conservatives, ignoring the plight of the Iranian people, defending the mass illegal immigration and the harm it does to communities, etc. It's a One way ticket to heavily progressive societies, resulting in Godlessness.

I get the RC's will rush to nuance their way in defense of the man, but it rings hollow.

Last, Christ will here the prayers of the God fearing soldiers.

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Then enemy within is dying off in time and new blood is flooding in. The gates of hell shall not prevail against her.

To keep the faith When it is difficult is truly an amazing virtue

Keep the faith!

Theres never been a better time to be Catholic frankly!!! What a fortunate gift to have been born with praise God!

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This pope is an embarrassment to Rome. Completely lost. The new blood flooding in will likely be washed out by the progressive tide that Leo will bring with him if he keeps up the crazy train. Bad enough the majority of Catholics are pro abortion and pro gay marriage, but having a Pope that openly mischaracterizes issues and Biblical context will only add more confusion in the flock.

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

Geez you are way off base. Although it is fun reading Baptist explain Papal politics and Catholic dogma.

Complaining about Trump is easy for the pope. Say anything you want and nothing serious ever happens. Talking negative about the Mullah's is different, even fearful. So the pope and Vatican keep their mouth shut just like they did from 1932-45 in Europe when Jews needed relief.

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So the pope and Vatican keep their mouth shut just like they did from 1932-45 in Europe when Jews needed relief.

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Interesting version of history. Was it a Veggie Tales episode or something?

Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

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Nope, Pro life = against abortion. By definition. You can be pro life and for border enforcement and for death penalty for the guilty.
You're a goof ball playing the wordsmith.

FLBear5630 said:

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Geez you are way off base. Although it is fun reading Baptist explain Papal politics and Catholic dogma.

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Nope, you're just being silly because you have a hard time with logic and context. Fortunately, the pope's words have been contradicted by past popes and by anyone paying attention to the silly arguments he's making.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

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Nope, Pro life = against abortion. By definition. You can be pro life and for border enforcement and for death penalty for the guilty.
You're a goof ball playing the wordsmith.

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Of course you can be for border enforcement. It's both the right and the duty of a sovereign state to control its borders. The death penalty isn't wrong per se, but it is fraught with injustice.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Geez you are way off base. Although it is fun reading Baptist explain Papal politics and Catholic dogma.

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Nope, you're just being silly because you have a hard time with logic and context. Fortunately, the pope's words have been contradicted by past popes and by anyone paying attention to the silly arguments he's making.

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Have not seen any statements that were contradicted by other popes.

Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

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Nope, Pro life = against abortion. By definition. You can be pro life and for border enforcement and for death penalty for the guilty.
You're a goof ball playing the wordsmith.

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Of course you can be for border enforcement. It's both the right and the duty of a sovereign state to control its borders. The death penalty isn't wrong per se, but it is fraught with injustice.

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You're likely going to spend an extra year or two in purgatory for contradicting the pope... even with your attempt at wordsmithing so you have your escape hatch

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

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Nope, Pro life = against abortion. By definition. You can be pro life and for border enforcement and for death penalty for the guilty.
You're a goof ball playing the wordsmith.

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Of course you can be for border enforcement. It's both the right and the duty of a sovereign state to control its borders. The death penalty isn't wrong per se, but it is fraught with injustice.

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You're likely going to spend an extra year or two in purgatory for contradicting the pope... even with your attempt at wordsmithing so you have your escape hatch

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I know you fundies don't like nuance, but it is what it is.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

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Nope, Pro life = against abortion. By definition. You can be pro life and for border enforcement and for death penalty for the guilty.
You're a goof ball playing the wordsmith.

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Of course you can be for border enforcement. It's both the right and the duty of a sovereign state to control its borders. The death penalty isn't wrong per se, but it is fraught with injustice.

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You're likely going to spend an extra year or two in purgatory for contradicting the pope... even with your attempt at wordsmithing so you have your escape hatch

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You do realize that the Pope is only infallible when speaking ex Cathedra (from the Chair of St Peter) on matters of the faith, right? I mean an expert on Catholicism and Papal roles and responsibilities like yourself couldn't make that basic error of nuance or context. You do also realize that Pope Leo has been one of the most open of working with the Baptist and other denominations.

Vatican Dispatch | Baptists and the Pope - Good Faith Media

On Iran, Pope Leo's opinions are his. Just like Trump, in his Christian Nationalist positions, does not represent all Americans. He has been consistent in his opinions throughout his career. (Pope Leo, not Trump who changes to whateve will make him a buck.).

Sorry, Pope has every right to be against war and to speak out. I can't think of one Pope who was in favor of war. And No, Hegseth is full of **** with his God wants "extreme violence" crap.

FLBear5630 said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

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Nope, Pro life = against abortion. By definition. You can be pro life and for border enforcement and for death penalty for the guilty.
You're a goof ball playing the wordsmith.

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Of course you can be for border enforcement. It's both the right and the duty of a sovereign state to control its borders. The death penalty isn't wrong per se, but it is fraught with injustice.

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You're likely going to spend an extra year or two in purgatory for contradicting the pope... even with your attempt at wordsmithing so you have your escape hatch

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You do realize that the Pope is only infallible when speaking ex Cathedra (from the Chair of St Peter) on matters of the faith, right? I mean an expert on Catholicism and Papal roles and responsibilities like yourself couldn't make that basic error of nuance or context. You do also realize that Pope Leo has been one of the most open of working with the Baptist and other denominations.

Vatican Dispatch | Baptists and the Pope - Good Faith Media

On Iran, Pope Leo's opinions are his. Just like Trump, in his Christian Nationalist positions, does not represent all Americans. He has been consistent in his opinions throughout his career. (Pope Leo, not Trump who changes to whateve will make him a buck.).

Sorry, Pope has every right to be against war and to speak out. I can't think of one Pope who was in favor of war. And No, Hegseth is full of **** with his God wants "extreme violence" crap.

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You can't think of one pope in favor of war? Hmmm

Thankfully the pacifist has the Swiss guard and walls to protect and separate him from the little people.

And last, you can be against war in general, but still recognize that it's sometimes necessary.

Stop trying to play wordsmith, it's Leo's thing not yours

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

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Nope, Pro life = against abortion. By definition. You can be pro life and for border enforcement and for death penalty for the guilty.
You're a goof ball playing the wordsmith.

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Of course you can be for border enforcement. It's both the right and the duty of a sovereign state to control its borders. The death penalty isn't wrong per se, but it is fraught with injustice.

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You're likely going to spend an extra year or two in purgatory for contradicting the pope... even with your attempt at wordsmithing so you have your escape hatch

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You do realize that the Pope is only infallible when speaking ex Cathedra (from the Chair of St Peter) on matters of the faith, right? I mean an expert on Catholicism and Papal roles and responsibilities like yourself couldn't make that basic error of nuance or context. You do also realize that Pope Leo has been one of the most open of working with the Baptist and other denominations.

Vatican Dispatch | Baptists and the Pope - Good Faith Media

On Iran, Pope Leo's opinions are his. Just like Trump, in his Christian Nationalist positions, does not represent all Americans. He has been consistent in his opinions throughout his career. (Pope Leo, not Trump who changes to whateve will make him a buck.).

Sorry, Pope has every right to be against war and to speak out. I can't think of one Pope who was in favor of war. And No, Hegseth is full of **** with his God wants "extreme violence" crap.

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You can't think of one pope in favor of war? Hmmm

Thankfully the pacifist has the Swiss guard and walls to protect and separate him from the little people.

And last, you can be against war in general, but still recognize that it's sometimes necessary.

Stop trying to play wordsmith, it's Leo's thing not yours

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Wordsmith? Learned a new phrase, huh? This has become a drinking game based on your use of your new phrase.

Are we now going back to the Middle Ages? Would you like to discuss Luther's, Calvin's, Wesley's or Joseph Smith's views and writings?

What has the Pope said that you disagree with on war? You a big fan of war?

FLBear5630 said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Pope adopts the progressive "redefining of pro-life". Here's the same Bible scholar who knows the Bible in context crushing the pope's silly arguments:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2064567997686744

The basic stuff that the pope gets wrong is stuff all studied Christians know, but this pope, like his predecessor, is actively trying to redefine traditional Christianity and leading his flock towards globalist progressivism. Given time, progressivism ultimately and always leads the society away from Christ.

Pro-life is a word that is literally defined as "opposing abortion". This has bothered progressives because they want to control the language - and pro-life has such a nice sound to it. So they have been wanting to redefine it for a decade or two to include unrelated things. Don't let them do it. Pro-life belongs to the anti-abortion masses. So keep fighting their nonsense. And they'll keep failing. Unfortunately, the pope is helping them along to redefine and obfuscate. Truly sad.

Love my devout Catholic friends, but man, you are getting fed utter nonsense by your progressive leadership. This pope is a globalist progressive, and you will all be brought along for the ride.

And don't forget, according to this pope, Jesus ignores soldiers and leaders involved in world conflicts. yeah ok.

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Already debunked. The broader usage is as old as the term itself.

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Nope, Pro life = against abortion. By definition. You can be pro life and for border enforcement and for death penalty for the guilty.
You're a goof ball playing the wordsmith.

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Of course you can be for border enforcement. It's both the right and the duty of a sovereign state to control its borders. The death penalty isn't wrong per se, but it is fraught with injustice.

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You're likely going to spend an extra year or two in purgatory for contradicting the pope... even with your attempt at wordsmithing so you have your escape hatch

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You do realize that the Pope is only infallible when speaking ex Cathedra (from the Chair of St Peter) on matters of the faith, right? I mean an expert on Catholicism and Papal roles and responsibilities like yourself couldn't make that basic error of nuance or context. You do also realize that Pope Leo has been one of the most open of working with the Baptist and other denominations.

Vatican Dispatch | Baptists and the Pope - Good Faith Media

On Iran, Pope Leo's opinions are his. Just like Trump, in his Christian Nationalist positions, does not represent all Americans. He has been consistent in his opinions throughout his career. (Pope Leo, not Trump who changes to whateve will make him a buck.).

Sorry, Pope has every right to be against war and to speak out. I can't think of one Pope who was in favor of war. And No, Hegseth is full of **** with his God wants "extreme violence" crap.

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You can't think of one pope in favor of war? Hmmm

Thankfully the pacifist has the Swiss guard and walls to protect and separate him from the little people.

And last, you can be against war in general, but still recognize that it's sometimes necessary.

Stop trying to play wordsmith, it's Leo's thing not yours

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Wordsmith? Learned a new phrase, huh? This has become a drinking game based on your use of your new phrase.

Are we now going back to the Middle Ages? Would you like to discuss Luther's, Calvin's, Wesley's or Joseph Smith's views and writings?

What has the Pope said that you disagree with on war? You a big fan of war?

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So you don't even know what he's misrepresenting, yet here you are.

As for "wordsmith", it's not new to me, and much to the surprise of someone like you, I actually use words that apply to the topic. The pope skillfully crafts his speech - he paints with a broad brush that moves people one direction, but is based mostly on political bias or poor context. And as a true master of his craft, he leaves himself enough wiggle room to claim "but did I technically say that?". That's the beauty of his wordsmithing.

Also, since you're new to this whole "wordsmithing" thing, maybe you can count the times I've used the word progressive and nuance as well. There will be plenty, as all these words fit quite nicely with the topic.

Also, the a-political pope met with the very-political Axelrod, probably to talk about the White Sox. Couldn't possibly be to talk progressive politics. You know those politics - the same ones that are killing off Christianity in all of the West.

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https://www.cal-catholic.com/pope-leo-met-with-highly-partisan-david-axelrod/

Last Thursday, Pope Leo XIV inexplicably met with President Obama's highly partisan top strategist, David Axelrod, in a longer-than-scheduled meeting at the Vatican..
Speculation at the time was that the pope was discussing an Obama visit with pope in the Vatican, as the former president had said he'd like to have. Much was made of all three players being from Chicago and loving the White Sox.
But Axelrod's name is strongly associated with partisan politics and the Democrat establishment, so it definitely looked as though the pope was going political and attempting to send President Trump a message beyond his current public criticisms.

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Huh? That is it? Obama and the Pope are both from Chicago. The Pope shouldn't meet with a former Head of State? Not seeing the problem here.

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Huh? That is it? Obama and the Pope are both from Chicago. The Pope shouldn't meet with a former Head of State? Not seeing the problem here.

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It wasn't a meeting about Obama, well according to axelrod, certainly he wouldn't lie about that after meeting with the pope.

But no, it's not just about that, that is just more proof that he's a progessive. Axelrod is a progressive strategist, I'm sure thy have lots to chat about outside of Obama.

The pope knowingly misleads by making questionable statements - he claimed Jesus doesn't listen to those that wage war, as if that's Biblical - it's an argument can only be made cherry-picking. The papist wordsmith is smart enough to know that. Anyone looking to both the old and the new testaments would be hard pressed to claim Jesus ignores those seriously praying to him, even while at war.

THE POPE IS WRONG

The pope is wrong.

I'm not talking about the pissing match between him and Trump, an embarrassment arising from two men with problem egos.

I'm talking about the gospel. He's wrong about that.

On Palm Sunday, presiding at the altar, dressed in his vestments…

— Bob Lonsberry (@BobLonsberry) April 16, 2026

You know all this, but you will find a way to defend the pope's progressive ways ... because TDS has you on Iran's side and on a progressive Pope's side. Just how broken your brain has become.

But stay with me, I'll show you the light.

I think you are reading too much into the Obama visit. They are both Chicago guys, although Obama strikes me as a North side Cubs fan.

As for the Iran thing, I am not surprised by Papal position.

Smart Presidents stay out of Religion.

Smart Popes stay out of Politics.

Then there's these two characters ...

FLBear5630 said:

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Huh? That is it? Obama and the Pope are both from Chicago. The Pope shouldn't meet with a former Head of State? Not seeing the problem here.

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Because you haven't seen the light. It doesn't matter that the pope is head of a worldwide church. Our main concern is partisan politics, so his must be too.

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Smart Presidents stay out of Religion.

Smart Popes stay out of Politics.

Then there's these two characters ...

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JP2 stayed out of politics?

Bit, maybe if Trump had just a bit of decorum he wouldn't be in Politics. He didnt say a word until Trump went full cruelty with the threat to civilizations, civilian infrastructure, and just a full lack of humanity. Curb that, maybe Pope keeps out like he did until Trump went Mad Dog... Just an idea. Maybe the "leader of the free world" should not be saying we will end a civilization...

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FLBear5630 said:

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You are comparing Trump to Patton?

Better yet, God sent Donald Trump?

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I don't know if he was sent by God or not. But I do know that Trump is a fighter. And our country needs a fighter. You are absolutely suffering from brain rot if you haven't figured out that our country was one election away from becoming the next Canada. 4 - 8 more years of mass illegal immigration, plus amnesty, would seal our countries fate.

And if you are not crediting Trump with the right leaning masses openly going after the left's mentally ridiculous narratives, then you are just a wishful thinker suffering from TDS. Trump has also spearheaded the culture shift that made it so young people, particularly teenage boys and young adult men, can speak openly and start criticizing the left again.

Trump, despite his massive ego and flaws, has at least taken us on an upward detour of our countries downward slide. It may be a temporary detour, because the globalists you love, will continue advancing their agenda of reducing America and finishing it up into it's multi-cultural, easily managed identity based society.

Under "conservative" people like you, our country wouldn't move to goodness, it'd cave into defeat.

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Trump is a fighter for Donald Trump, Inc. That is all. If he can make a buck out of it, he would sell tickets to the crucifixion.

We are in Iran because Bibi has something on Trump or there is a money deal at the end in Gaza. Or both.

Donald Trump does not do anything for the moral good of man. Maybe for the financial good of Donald Jr, Eric and Ivanka being threatened by Jared.

But you are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think Trump is a fighter for good and Christian way...

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This is just silly.

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Smart Presidents stay out of Religion.

Smart Popes stay out of Politics.

Then there's these two characters ...

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JP2 stayed out of politics?

Bit, maybe if Trump had just a bit of decorum he wouldn't be in Politics. He didnt say a word until Trump went full cruelty with the threat to civilizations, civilian infrastructure, and just a full lack of humanity. Curb that, maybe Pope keeps out like he did until Trump went Mad Dog... Just an idea. Maybe the "leader of the free world" should not be saying we will end a civilization...

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false.
Leo has a history.

Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Huh? That is it? Obama and the Pope are both from Chicago. The Pope shouldn't meet with a former Head of State? Not seeing the problem here.

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Because you haven't seen the light. It doesn't matter that the pope is head of a worldwide church. Our main concern is partisan politics, so his must be too.

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this pope is definitely into partisan politics. why are you playing pretend?

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Huh? That is it? Obama and the Pope are both from Chicago. The Pope shouldn't meet with a former Head of State? Not seeing the problem here.

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Because you haven't seen the light. It doesn't matter that the pope is head of a worldwide church. Our main concern is partisan politics, so his must be too.

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this pope is definitely into partisan politics.

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You're projecting.

Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Huh? That is it? Obama and the Pope are both from Chicago. The Pope shouldn't meet with a former Head of State? Not seeing the problem here.

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Because you haven't seen the light. It doesn't matter that the pope is head of a worldwide church. Our main concern is partisan politics, so his must be too.

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this pope is definitely into partisan politics.

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You're projecting speaking truth, which annoys Sam.

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Fixed.

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Smart Presidents stay out of Religion.

Smart Popes stay out of Politics.

Then there's these two characters ...

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JP2 stayed out of politics?

Bit, maybe if Trump had just a bit of decorum he wouldn't be in Politics. He didnt say a word until Trump went full cruelty with the threat to civilizations, civilian infrastructure, and just a full lack of humanity. Curb that, maybe Pope keeps out like he did until Trump went Mad Dog... Just an idea. Maybe the "leader of the free world" should not be saying we will end a civilization...

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May not be the best look for you to constantly cheer for Iran, FLBear.

Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Smart Presidents stay out of Religion.

Smart Popes stay out of Politics.

Then there's these two characters ...

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JP2 stayed out of politics?

Bit, maybe if Trump had just a bit of decorum he wouldn't be in Politics. He didnt say a word until Trump went full cruelty with the threat to civilizations, civilian infrastructure, and just a full lack of humanity. Curb that, maybe Pope keeps out like he did until Trump went Mad Dog... Just an idea. Maybe the "leader of the free world" should not be saying we will end a civilization...

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May not be the best look for you to constantly cheer for Iran, FLBear.

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Cheering for Iran? Try hoping and praying Trump doesn't disgrace our Nation and puts us in the History books with the thugs of the world. I could give a **** about Iran. I care about our Nation's reputation and credibility we earned through 70 years of peace. We just got over the Iraq blunder and now this clown.

You are usually intelligent, FLBear.

But anytime you write about the President, you turn into a hysterical loon.

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Smart Presidents stay out of Religion.

Smart Popes stay out of Politics.

Then there's these two characters ...

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JP2 stayed out of politics?

Bit, maybe if Trump had just a bit of decorum he wouldn't be in Politics. He didnt say a word until Trump went full cruelty with the threat to civilizations, civilian infrastructure, and just a full lack of humanity. Curb that, maybe Pope keeps out like he did until Trump went Mad Dog... Just an idea. Maybe the "leader of the free world" should not be saying we will end a civilization...

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May not be the best look for you to constantly cheer for Iran, FLBear.

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Cheering for Iran? Try hoping and praying Trump doesn't disgrace our Nation and puts us in the History books with the thugs of the world. I could give a **** about Iran. I care about our Nation's reputation and credibility we earned through 70 years of peace. We just got over the Iraq blunder and now this clown.

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Spot on.

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You are usually intelligent, FLBear.

But anytime you write about the President, you turn into a hysterical loon.

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We have a serious international credibility issue. Ok, we got taken advantage, so we had the last year worth of pushing back.

IF we want the dollar to remain the reserve currency, we need to re-establish that we are for Freedom of Navigation, Free Trade and peace. We can't keep doing this stuff and threatening the world.

The guy is f-ing nuts. He is picking fights with the Pope, Denmark and threatening to destroy civilizations. Rhetoric, you say. He also controls the most powerful Military and a SecDef that is making speeches of no quarter. We haven't even gone into nukes. The position with great power require great discipline. He is not showing great discipline.

I am really shocked you guys don't see that and are cheering this nutcase on.

He is a sociopath at best, I am worried what at the worst.

FLBear: ' We have a serious international credibility issue."

No, we do not. Only someone addicted to uninformed anti-US propaganda would buy that.

"IF we want the dollar to remain the reserve currency, we need to re-establish that we are for Freedom of Navigation, Free Trade and peace. We can't keep doing this stuff and threatening the world."

That whiny screed only tells me you have no idea at all how nations select the reserve currencies they hold.

"The guy is f-ing nuts."

"He is a sociopath at best"

Those statements are not only false, they show you to be delusional and quite unbalanced emotionally. It says bad things about you, boyo.

Maybe you should just stay away from the news and suck your binky.