Talarico vs Paxton

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Harrison Bergeron
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One interesting thing about this race is we've affirmed what we all suspected - mainline churches have become left-wing activist clubs with zero concern for the Gospel.
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It's been mostly that way for many years. Now more people are noticing.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

It's been mostly that way for many years. Now more people are noticing.

It's probably been that way for two decades; but to your point - now it is public and obvious.
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Race seems to be narrowing. Saw a ton of Paxton commercials sprinkled throughout football this weekend...
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James Talarico's pastor says Holy Communion is an act of divine breastfeeding connected to a Greek goddess

https://notthebee.com/article/james-talaricos-pastor-says-holy-communion-is-divine-breastfeeding-based-on-a-goddess-religion
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Mothra said:

Keyser Soze said:

No True Scotsman ..... would vote for ....

What is the definition of Christian or conservative that would vote Talarico?

I would submit you'd have to change THOSE definitions to find someone who would support this bull *****


or Paxton?


We all fall short, kind of depends on who is drawing the line. I would never vote for Talarico, and as I define things there are no conservatives in the Senate.

Expanding on the Scotsman fallacy, "Well then that's no true Scotsman!" ..... I wouldn't, you wouldn't, but to say someone is not a Christian because of how they vote is a tad harsh.

More to the point, the Talarico team is trying to get Republicans not to vote in the Senate race, as it gives them a net gain if that happens. The argument about the perceived morality of one candidate or the other is nothing more in practical terms than trying to leverage an election.

The adults in the room should focus on the kinds of bills Talarico or Paxton would support if they took office. Neither is going to force someone to accept their religious beliefs, no politician frankly is much of a moral example we should follow.

But we know from history what to expect from a Republican-controlled Senate, and what to expect from a Democrat-controlled Senate. While I have grievances against a lot of Republican Senators, no rational or moral person would put Democrats in charge, or allow that to happen through not voting.



This is exactly it.

The "repubs" that aren't voting because "Paxton bad", well they will spend their money at Disney, at Apple, at NetFlix, on Football, all of which spend their money on making sure your kids grow up in a progressive globalist dystopia. They don't care because they'd rather clutch their pearls than think about what they're actually voting for. It's more about policies than the man.

Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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Waco life defenders protest Talarico rally at Baylor

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2026/09/waco-life-defenders-protest-talarico-rally-at-baylor/
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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George W. Bush and Cornyn Leave Out Paxton as They Raise Cash for Senate Candidates
The former president and Texas senator are headlining a fund-raiser in Dallas for top Republican Senate candidates. Not included: Ken Paxton, the nominee in their own state.
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Not surprising that Low T Jimmy would be welcomed at a partisan gathering in a mid sized city. It would have been news had they hoped him.

It's also unsurprising that Texas RINOs would ostracize the candidate they rejected earlier. They are only proving once again why the voters were wise to reject Cornyn in the primaries.

So two of our resident Leftists, who apparently support their agenda, are pushing their favorite guy. Yawn.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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Harrison Bergeron said:

One interesting thing about this race is we've affirmed what we all suspected - mainline churches have become left-wing activist clubs with zero concern for the Gospel.


Probably doesn't apply to some specific denominations, such as the southern Baptist, but pretty much on point for all the others. Tahl Rico's own church doesn't even mention Christ on its website. It's just a series of social justice causes.

It's one of the reasons we've seen a huge influx in Catholicism, orthodoxy and non-denominational evangelical churches. That's where all the growing is right now.
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HuMcK said:

It's a few major factors.

1) When people actually listen to Talarico, he isn't anything like the radical extremist that y'all portray him to be, and frankly the focus on anti-trans stuff seems a little hokey and out of touch with everything else going on in people lives.

2) The GOP has created the perception that they institutionally reward corruption, because they do. In a functional party, Paxton's impeachment should have ended his career, not propelled him upward, but here we are.

3) We are currently suffering under the worst POTUS in at least the last 100yrs, and arguably ever, who's policy actions have made people's quality of life measureably worse.

Strap yourself in, because conditions probably aren't going to improve between now and November, they will continue to deteriorate. I just saw $3.99 gas and $5.99 diesel on my commute home in the Austin area, and I doubt it stops going up from there any time soon.

On point number one, I think you must think Texans a stupid lot if you expect them to judge Talarico solely by the carefully polished version of himself he is presenting now that he wants to win a statewide election.

Texans aren't that stupid. They can compare what a politician said and did before running statewide with what he suddenly says when he needs Republicans, independents, and moderates to vote for him.

The Talarico people should be evaluating isn't simply Senate-candidate Talarico, now trying to broaden his appeal. It is legislator Talarico, before a statewide electorate gave him a powerful incentive to moderate his positions.

And this isn't merely something Republicans have invented. People close to him have admitted Talarico as having "carefully moderated his messaging" during this race and there all well-documented substantive changes in what he is saying.

In 2021, he opposed restrictions on transgender athletes and argued that some things were more important than perfectly fair competition in sports. Now he says he opposes transgender athletes competing in girls' sports when it jeopardizes "safety or fairness."

He opposed Texas's 2023 restrictions on gender-transition treatment for minors; now he says he supports a national ban on gender-change surgeries for minors. He has even characterized some of his own previous rhetoric as "cringey" and having "missed the mark."

And these are just a few on the transgender crap. There are others.

So dismissing this as fixation on "anti-trans stuff" is the kind of stupidity I've come to expect from you, and of course misses the point entirely. Of course politicians can genuinely change their minds. But when a politician suddenly moderates several politically vulnerable positions at precisely the moment he needs to persuade a substantially more conservative statewide electorate, voters are entitled to ask whether they're witnessing genuine political growth or political calculation.

As for your idea that Trump is terrible and life is worse under him, of course a leftist loon such as yourself would think that. For the majority of hard working decent and traditional Americans, we much prefer life under Trump than the disaster that was Joe Biden.
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J.R. said:

HuMcK said:

It's a few major factors.

1) When people actually listen to Talarico, he isn't anything like the radical extremist that y'all portray him to be, and frankly the focus on anti-trans stuff seems a little hokey and out of touch with everything else going on in people lives.

2) The GOP has created the perception that they institutionally reward corruption, because they do. In a functional party, Paxton's impeachment should have ended his career, not propelled him upward, but here we are.

3) We are currently suffering under the worst POTUS in at least the last 100yrs, and arguably ever, who's policy actions have made people's quality of life measureably worse.

Strap yourself in, because conditions probably aren't going to improve between now and November, they will continue to deteriorate. I just saw $3.99 gas and $5.99 diesel on my commute home in the Austin area, and I doubt it stops going up from there any time soon.

spot on. Bunch of righty fringe crap from Maggots like 83 and the teacher-man. Those 2 are walking , talking Maggot talking points. Not engaged people. Ie. No job and on the govt cheddar (both which they come down hard) is so, so predictable. enjoy your cheddar boys!

Your string of dumb takes continues. You are consistently one of the least informed posters on this board.
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Again with yet another screed on trans issues, I swear I hear more about trans people from Republican mouths than literally any other source. Keep your focus on that stuff while the world burns and watch what the voting public does, you might be surprised. In the same way that "orange man bad" is not enough to win on its own, neither is "the LGBTQ agenda" as a tent-pole message.

The real reason Paxton is trailing in the polls is that people are just over all that crap, and the GOP has no answer on any economic issues right now (largely because of the aforementioned worst POTUS ever that we currently have in the White House). It's why the polling is mirrored across almost every battle ground, instead of being unique to Paxton (but he is uniquely bad).

And I'd be careful with that "we" talk when you speak on hard working Americans' experience with the current economy. You and I are both white collar professionals who are relatively insulated from what's happening, but blue collar America is getting more broke and pissed by the day.
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HuMcK said:

Again with yet another screed on trans issues, I swear I hear more about trans people from Republican mouths than literally any other source. Keep your focus on that stuff while the world burns and watch what the voting public does, you might be surprised. In the same way that "orange man bad" is not enough to win on its own, neither is "the LGBTQ agenda" as a tent-pole message.

The real reason Paxton is trailing in the polls is that people are just over all that crap, and the GOP has no answer on any economic issues right now (largely because of the aforementioned worst POTUS ever that we currently have in the White House). It's why the polling is mirrored across almost every battle ground, instead of being unique to Paxton (but he is uniquely bad).

And I'd be careful with that "we" talk when you speak on hard working Americans' experience with the current economy. You and I are both white collar professionals who are relatively insulated from what's happening, but blue collar America is getting more broke and pissed by the day.


Honest question .... a few details please
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Well for the first time in more than a decade polls show voters prefer Dems over GOP on the economy, and the gap is even wider for inflation, same for health care too. The President's policies have made the economy both objectively and subjectively worse, and Republican led congress has repeatedly signaled that they aren't going to do anything to restrain it at all.

What even is the GOP economic pitch to voters right now, more trade wars and corporate tax breaks to go along with another expensive mid-east quagmire? Paxton's big economic platform unveil was just some tax deductions (not even credits!), and he can't even really talk about the biggest issue on voters minds (inflation) too much because it would implicitly criticize the President's policies.
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HuMcK said:

Well for the first time in more than a decade polls show voters prefer Dems over GOP on the economy, and the gap is even wider for inflation, same for health care too. The President's policies have made the economy both objectively and subjectively worse, and Republican led congress has repeatedly signaled that they aren't going to do anything to restrain it at all.

What even is the GOP economic pitch to voters right now, more trade wars and corporate tax breaks to go along with another expensive mid-east quagmire? Paxton's big economic platform unveil was just some tax deductions (not even credits!), and he can't even really talk about the biggest issue on voters minds (inflation) too much because it would implicitly criticize the President's policies.

From my libertarian perspective, I have plenty of problems with Trump's economic policy. I don't like his authoritarian instincts, I don't like the expansion of executive power, and I'm fundamentally a free-trade guy, so I think his reliance on tariffs is bad economics. The current tariff regime has been extensive, and Congress has recently given the executive branch additional tariff authority.

But I'm still curious about the "objectively worse" part. Worse by what measures? Inflation? Real wages? GDP growth? Unemployment? Deficits? Investment? Those don't necessarily move together, and some of the current inflation problem has multiple causes.

I'm not trying to defend Trump's economic policies. Quite a few of them run directly against my own economic philosophy. I'm asking what specifically we're measuring when we say the economy is objectively worse.
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"I'm asking what specifically we're measuring when we say the economy is objectively worse."

That's actually not what your original question was, the objective measures language comes from my response and is a different ask. You were originally asking for details about why the GOP don't have a response on economic issues right now. I generally answered that (tariffs, Iran, Paxton's lackluster economic platform, etc).

For objective measures: inflation is higher now than it was when he took over (and getting worse), employment rate is holding but job creation is way below the Biden era (and not just the initial COVID boom either), federal deficit is more than it was when he took over, GDP is lackluster (far below what was explicitly promised by this admin). Really only the stock indexes are doing somewhat well, but observers are all watching with trepidation because everything is so precarious.

You say you aren't defending anyone, the classic "just asking questions" line. Ok, what's the point you're trying to arrive at then?
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HuMcK said:

Again with yet another screed on trans issues, I swear I hear more about trans people from Republican mouths than literally any other source. Keep your focus on that stuff while the world burns and watch what the voting public does, you might be surprised. In the same way that "orange man bad" is not enough to win on its own, neither is "the LGBTQ agenda" as a tent-pole message.

The real reason Paxton is trailing in the polls is that people are just over all that crap, and the GOP has no answer on any economic issues right now (largely because of the aforementioned worst POTUS ever that we currently have in the White House). It's why the polling is mirrored across almost every battle ground, instead of being unique to Paxton (but he is uniquely bad).

And I'd be careful with that "we" talk when you speak on hard working Americans' experience with the current economy. You and I are both white collar professionals who are relatively insulated from what's happening, but blue collar America is getting more broke and pissed by the day.

You brought up the trans issue in your last post, genius. It was literally Point No. 1 of your argument. I responded to the point you made, and your response is now to complain that I am talking too much about the subject you introduced and point no. 1 in your last post?

LOL. You're a clown.

For the record, I never said "the LGBTQ agenda" should be a tent-pole campaign message. The point was that Talarico's changing positions provide a particularly good example of the difference between legislator Talarico and Senate-candidate Talarico and raise a perfectly legitimate question about which version voters should believe.

Instead of addressing that, you've moved on to a rant about Paxton, Trump, the economy, blue-collar workers, and what you predict voters are going to do in November. We get it. As a leftist loon, you don't like them. But none of those issues explain why Texans should ignore liberal Talarico's record and judge him solely by the positions he has adopted now that he is trying to win their votes.
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HuMcK said:

"I'm asking what specifically we're measuring when we say the economy is objectively worse."

That's actually not what your original question was, the objective measures language comes from my response and is a different ask. You were originally asking for details about why the GOP don't have a response on economic issues right now. I generally answered that (tariffs, Iran, Paxton's lackluster economic platform, etc).

For objective measures: inflation is higher now than it was when he took over (and getting worse), employment rate is holding but job creation is way below the Biden era (and not just the initial COVID boom either), federal deficit is more than it was when he took over, GDP is lackluster (far below what was explicitly promised by this admin). Really only the stock indexes are doing somewhat well, but observers are all watching with trepidation because everything is so precarious.

You say you aren't defending anyone, the classic "just asking questions" line. Ok, what's the point you're trying to arrive at then?

You're playing a little fast and loose with what these "objective measures" actually establish.

Take inflation. While the current year-over-year inflation rate is higher than it was in January 2025, that's a remarkably convenient starting point because it ignores what happened to the price level during the preceding four years.

Inflation averaged about 4.9% during the Biden years, compared with about 1.9% during Trump's first term, and consumer prices rose cumulatively by roughly 21% over the Biden years. Current inflation is 3.4%. So, yes, it has ticked back up. But pointing to 3.4% today as proof of how much worse things have become while ignoring the enormous inflationary run-up that preceded it is a fairly selective use of the data, but no surprise coming from you. I would not expect an intellectually honest discussion with you.
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HuMcK said:

Again with yet another screed on trans issues, I swear I hear more about trans people from Republican mouths than literally any other source.

The better question is why can't a democrat run for office without first adopting the full LGBTQ agenda? If it is the Republicans always mentioning it, why not respond with "not me"?

There in lies your answer as to which party makes it a campaign issue.

Anyone who favors transkids is not fit for office. That level of depravity and wickedness has no room in public discourse.
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I'm warning the evilness of trans lol Humck is a liberal clown if he cannot see that
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Mothra said:

HuMcK said:

"I'm asking what specifically we're measuring when we say the economy is objectively worse."

That's actually not what your original question was, the objective measures language comes from my response and is a different ask. You were originally asking for details about why the GOP don't have a response on economic issues right now. I generally answered that (tariffs, Iran, Paxton's lackluster economic platform, etc).

For objective measures: inflation is higher now than it was when he took over (and getting worse), employment rate is holding but job creation is way below the Biden era (and not just the initial COVID boom either), federal deficit is more than it was when he took over, GDP is lackluster (far below what was explicitly promised by this admin). Really only the stock indexes are doing somewhat well, but observers are all watching with trepidation because everything is so precarious.

You say you aren't defending anyone, the classic "just asking questions" line. Ok, what's the point you're trying to arrive at then?

You're playing a little fast and loose with what these "objective measures" actually establish.

Take inflation. While the current year-over-year inflation rate is higher than it was in January 2025, that's a remarkably convenient starting point because it ignores what happened to the price level during the preceding four years.

Inflation averaged about 4.9% during the Biden years, compared with about 1.9% during Trump's first term, and consumer prices rose cumulatively by roughly 21% over the Biden years. Current inflation is 3.4%. So, yes, it has ticked back up. But pointing to 3.4% today as proof of how much worse things have become while ignoring the enormous inflationary run-up that preceded it is a fairly selective use of the data, but no surprise coming from you. I would not expect an intellectually honest discussion with you.

If we are being intellectually honest what is the reason for inflation ticking back up in the last year?
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HuMcK said:

"I'm asking what specifically we're measuring when we say the economy is objectively worse."

That's actually not what your original question was, the objective measures language comes from my response and is a different ask. You were originally asking for details about why the GOP don't have a response on economic issues right now. I generally answered that (tariffs, Iran, Paxton's lackluster economic platform, etc).

For objective measures: inflation is higher now than it was when he took over (and getting worse), employment rate is holding but job creation is way below the Biden era (and not just the initial COVID boom either), federal deficit is more than it was when he took over, GDP is lackluster (far below what was explicitly promised by this admin). Really only the stock indexes are doing somewhat well, but observers are all watching with trepidation because everything is so precarious.

You say you aren't defending anyone, the classic "just asking questions" line. Ok, what's the point you're trying to arrive at then?

I supported tariffs under the illusion they would be used in a coordinated effort, along with massive spending cuts, to pay down the national debt.

Instead they are using tariffs to increase spending... there is very little difference between Trump 2.0 and Biden.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

I'm warning the evilness of trans lol Humck is a liberal clown if he cannot see that
I agree with Huk. Most all trans nonsense brought up by the RWNJs. We know u r sexually confused as it is evidenced. Yall RWNJs best fear the trans. They are coming for you. They like Twinks I hear!
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J.R. said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I'm warning the evilness of trans lol Humck is a liberal clown if he cannot see that

I agree with Huk. Most all trans nonsense brought up by the RWNJs. We know u r sexually confused as it is evidenced. Yall RWNJs best fear the trans. They are coming for you. They like Twinks I hear!

Serious question: the underage Indonesian "girl" you're paying dating is really a femboy. isn't he?

What a LWNJ.
 
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