El Oso said:
Probably fairly close to the way it did in 1776.
El Oso said:
Probably fairly close to the way it did in 1776.
The state legislatures came together to authorize a revolution. Those were state authorized militias and a national continental armyEl Oso said:
Probably fairly close to the way it did in 1776.
Gosh, if only there were some kind of network or other technologies available for people to communicate with.Waco1947 said:The state legislatures came together to authorize a revolution. Those were state authorized militias and a national continental armyEl Oso said:
Probably fairly close to the way it did in 1776.
How would you organize one today?
Waco1947 said:The state legislatures came together to authorize a revolution. Those were state authorized militias and a national continental armyEl Oso said:
Probably fairly close to the way it did in 1776.
How would you organize one today?
El Oso said:Waco1947 said:The state legislatures came together to authorize a revolution. Those were state authorized militias and a national continental armyEl Oso said:
Probably fairly close to the way it did in 1776.
How would you organize one today?
Again, point me to our militia problem.
You can't. So you're making a problem where one doesn't exist because you got your ass handed to you on the history of the second amendment. ((((Pointless accusation . Way off target)$)))
We get it. You know nothing about guns or that 99.3% of people who own one, do so responsibly.((((((Pointless comment about militia. You are invapacable of an an arguyon Target. It's militia)))))
I would tell you to research the Arab Spring. Tunisia would probably be the lone success story of that period.Waco1947 said:El Oso said:Waco1947 said:The state legislatures came together to authorize a revolution. Those were state authorized militias and a national continental armyEl Oso said:
Probably fairly close to the way it did in 1776.
How would you organize one today?
Again, point me to our militia problem.
You can't. So you're making a problem where one doesn't exist because you got your ass handed to you on the history of the second amendment. ((((Pointless accusation . Way off target)$)))
We get it. You know nothing about guns or that 99.3% of people who own one, do so responsibly.((((((Pointless comment about militia. You are invapacable of an an arguyon Target. It's militia)))))
I did NOT say there was a militia problem. You made up that lie. I asked how does one go about establishing a well regulated militia and organizing a revolution in the 21st century against a tyrannical government? How does a nation/citizen decide our govt is a tyranny?
Gun guys? Gun guys are not pigeonholed into groupthink. Gun guys are every shade in the political spectrum.Waco1947 said:
True? Do gun guys think about that?
Then do you think that?quash said:Gun guys? Gun guys are not pigeonholed into groupthink. Gun guys are every shade in the political spectrum.Waco1947 said:
True? Do gun guys think about that?
Think about what? And what is a "gun guy"?Waco1947 said:
True? Do gun guys think about that?
I asked how does one go about establishing a well regulated militia and organizing a revolution in the 21st century against a tyrannical government? How does a nation/citizen decide our govt is a tyranny? The Arab spring has been suggested as one model but what about an American model? I's it simply an organic up rising? Or state leges? Or want? Any advance thinking about when a govt teaches s tyrannical threshold?90sBear said:Think about what?Waco1947 said:
True? Do gun guys think about that?
Waco1947 said:I asked how does one go about establishing a well regulated militia and organizing a revolution in the 21st century against a tyrannical government? How does a nation/citizen decide our govt is a tyranny? The Arab spring has been suggested as one model but what about an American model? I's it simply an organic up rising? Or state leges? Or want? Any advance thinking about when a govt teaches s tyrannical threshold?90sBear said:Think about what?Waco1947 said:
True? Do gun guys think about that?
What you are asking for are hypothetical possibilities which means almost any hypothetical answer is possible. What would be the American response be to aliens landing in the middle of Central Park? There are a lot of variables there that makes the question impossible to accurately predict exactly how something might play out.Waco1947 said:I asked how does one go about establishing a well regulated militia and organizing a revolution in the 21st century against a tyrannical government? How does a nation/citizen decide our govt is a tyranny? The Arab spring has been suggested as one model but what about an American model? I's it simply an organic up rising? Or state leges? Or want? Any advance thinking about when a govt teaches s tyrannical threshold?90sBear said:Think about what?Waco1947 said:
True? Do gun guys think about that?
April 21, 1775 might be a better analog. Go back another century or so in England during the Monmouth rebellion and at least two militias participated in that one.Jack Bauer said:Waco1947 said:I asked how does one go about establishing a well regulated militia and organizing a revolution in the 21st century against a tyrannical government? How does a nation/citizen decide our govt is a tyranny? The Arab spring has been suggested as one model but what about an American model? I's it simply an organic up rising? Or state leges? Or want? Any advance thinking about when a govt teaches s tyrannical threshold?90sBear said:Think about what?Waco1947 said:
True? Do gun guys think about that?
Do you know what happened on July 4, 1776? That's exactly what you are describing.
Waco1947 said:. Not to split too many hairs but a gun in the House means you do live in fear of home invasion. (And for some fear of government). You may be do it responsibly but fear is the driverquash said:Waco1947 said:. Please say more.quash said:Gun safety means more to those of us who own guns.Waco1947 said:
I shouldn't be surprised but the paranoia rage that erupts here is stunning in its depth and intensity.
It is immediate and reflexive.
Gun safety should be a concept to which we can all agree. Yet somehow 'gun safety' is transmuted into a lie. Strange indeed. The 2 words "gun safety" are so strongly opposed.
If you don't have a gun in your house gun safety is kinda irrelevant. We owners live with it, not in fear but in responsibility.
I live with the same fears but without a gun. . I wish the responsibility part was true of all of you. But we are all human.
It's not about believing there is tyranny. Did you read the Texas Militia link I posted? Just google em.Waco1947 said:
And going forward? How does organize a well regulated militia? Just a bunch of guys believe there is tyranny? What if the vast majority don't believe it?
quash said:It's not about believing there is tyranny. Did you read the Texas Militia link I posted? Just google em.Waco1947 said:
And going forward? How does organize a well regulated militia? Just a bunch of guys believe there is tyranny? What if the vast majority don't believe it?
If you don't think rights come from God, you're in the wrong line of work.Waco1947 said:quash said:It's not about believing there is tyranny. Did you read the Texas Militia link I posted? Just google em.Waco1947 said:
And going forward? How does organize a well regulated militia? Just a bunch of guys believe there is tyranny? What if the vast majority don't believe it?
I read it and they scare me. Sure they have rights but their right end at my skin. Plus this nonsense
"Militiamen realize, as did the founding fathers who threw off the tyranny of the British; that our rights come directly from God himself who is a higher authority than any government. On April 19, 1775 when government troops marched on Lexington and Concord to begin gun confiscation it was militiamen who stopped them firing the shot against tyranny that was heard around the world which started the United States of America. Without the militia there never would have been a USA.". "God himself"
Our founders were not theocrats.Waco1947 said:
No I on the right line. I don't transpose my theology to a theocracy. My theology is to call forth faith in God.
They don't scare me in the least, I just disagree about the source of our rights, and disagreements are not something to fear.Waco1947 said:quash said:It's not about believing there is tyranny. Did you read the Texas Militia link I posted? Just google em.Waco1947 said:
And going forward? How does organize a well regulated militia? Just a bunch of guys believe there is tyranny? What if the vast majority don't believe it?
I read it and they scare me. Sure they have rights but their right end at my skin. Plus this nonsense
"Militiamen realize, as did the founding fathers who threw off the tyranny of the British; that our rights come directly from God himself who is a higher authority than any government. On April 19, 1775 when government troops marched on Lexington and Concord to begin gun confiscation it was militiamen who stopped them firing the shot against tyranny that was heard around the world which started the United States of America. Without the militia there never would have been a USA.". "God himself"
YoakDaddy said:
My son and I went out to the ranch yesterday and shot a few different kinds of guns. How's that for some John Locke natural rights: right of self defense and right of private property!
quash said:YoakDaddy said:
My son and I went out to the ranch yesterday and shot a few different kinds of guns. How's that for some John Locke natural rights: right of self defense and right of private property!
Two man militia?