I'm going to Dachau tomorrow

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Doc Holliday
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GolemIII said:

Doc Holliday said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear Reader,
Please "Flag" the idiots who used a sobering, evil, profound site called Dachau and twisted to attack me or any political cause. This is not place for a stupid diatribe. It is a time for decency in the face of horror.
We cannot forget. Thank you flagging. '47
Maybe you shouldn't post it in religion and politics...


Do I see that the evil little baby murder advocate used an "ad hom" in his post? Say it ain't so!!!
Its a hard life being professionally outraged. Sometimes you gotta feel bad for them and be thankful you aren't one.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
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Waco1947 said:

Tomorrow we visit Dachau. I visit with a sense of dread, despair, love of humankind, fear for my nation and to feel the pain of a People in a inhuman time. Be in prayer is for us and yourselves.
Citizens of the these United States share hope and justice together in these days of division.Never again


My uncle lived in Waco, 47. I knew he was in Europe and served on the continent with Patton, so when Saving Private Ryan appeared, I asked him if he had seen the movie. He quietly said "Uh, no. I saw the real thing."

Over the succeeding 4-5 years he revealed other facts. One was that he was the first American officer to enter Dachau. "I was the guy who shot the lock off the gate."

"The thing I most recall is the smell. I can still smell it." That stayed with him the rest of his life. He returned with a Silver Star and the French Legion of Honor, which no one-including his family knew about. Maybe his wife and her brother...but no one was talking.

Edward Noble Stiver lived on Athens Avenue and worked at Rogers Delinted Cotton Seed co.
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Sam Lowry said:

Waco1947 said:

Dear Reader,
Please "Flag" the idiots who used a sobering, evil, profound site called Dachau and twisted to attack me or any political cause. This is not place for a stupid diatribe. It is a time for decency in the face of horror.
We cannot forget. Thank you flagging. '47
You used the OP to attack your political opponents, so by this standard you should be flagged.
He doesn't see his absolute hypocrisy. He completely used Dachau to parallel our times to their times. The saddest thing is he has no awareness that we do have mass killings that are ongoing every day, but nary a peep to stop that continuous abomination.
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What we are doing to undocumented immigrants--detaining them indefinitely in prison-like conditions in for-profit facilities hours from cities, to make it hard for relatives to visit and for inmates to access legal representation, is more like GITMO minus the torture than like a concentration camp.

Kidnapping their kids into either office warehouses or the foster care system is much more sinister, and I hope the U.S. faces a class action lawsuit for doing that. And, no, Obama didn't do it, too, although he allowed some of the "cold storage" detention that's inhumane. The kidnapping is unique to Sessions and Trump.

Genocide isn't a joking matter.

Can't believe so many of you God-fearing guys think Dachau is an opportunity to joke about liberals, the conditions under which immigrants are detained in this country and other political issues. You are increasing my resolve to do everything in my power to ensure that you and your ilk don't make immigration and detention policy in the United States of America, which used to be a democracy in the days before Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump. I am beyond disgusted; I am revolted by many of the comments on this thread.

And, no, Forest, the fact that some people support a woman's right to choose does NOT justify detaining people indefinitely without charges for the crime of seeking a life where they don't fear being murdered or tortured and where they can get a job, nor does it justify kidnapping their kids. Didn't you learn that two wrongs don't make a right when you were little?
Waco1947
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I am here. Moving, painful, profound, deeply saddening.
All the idiots here are like Thomas "unless I see." It's simple stupidity to foubt.
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Waco1947 said:

I am here. Moving, painful, profound, deeply saddening.
All the idiots here are like Thomas "unless I see." It's simple stupidity to foubt.
Give up on these guys, Waco, They don't deserve you.
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Waco1947 said:

I am here. Moving, painful, profound, deeply saddening.
All the idiots here are like Thomas "unless I see." It's simple stupidity to foubt.
No we aren't like Thomas, we don't like seeing a political manipulator as yourself drawing parallels with those horrid times and today. They aren't in any way the same.

I am actually watching a documentary of those times and horrors as I type on the History channel right now, it is called Apocalypse Stalin.

The only idiot I see is you trying to tie in your political enemies with those evil times as if they are somehow sharing a similar mindset. You live in a world of fantasy.



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Waco1947 said:

I am here. Moving, painful, profound, deeply saddening.
All the idiots here are like Thomas "unless I see." It's simple stupidity to foubt.


Uh huh

Incoherence as always
Florda_mike
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Waco1947 said:

I am here. Moving, painful, profound, deeply saddening.



Prove it

Reading about it in a book doesn't mean you're there btw. Nor does watching a movie or documentary on it
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Jinx 2 said:

What we are doing to undocumented immigrants--detaining them indefinitely in prison-like conditions in for-profit facilities hours from cities, to make it hard for relatives to visit and for inmates to access legal representation, is more like GITMO minus the torture than like a concentration camp.

Kidnapping their kids into either office warehouses or the foster care system is much more sinister, and I hope the U.S. faces a class action lawsuit for doing that. And, no, Obama didn't do it, too, although he allowed some of the "cold storage" detention that's inhumane. The kidnapping is unique to Sessions and Trump.

Genocide isn't a joking matter.

Can't believe so many of you God-fearing guys think Dachau is an opportunity to joke about liberals, the conditions under which immigrants are detained in this country and other political issues. You are increasing my resolve to do everything in my power to ensure that you and your ilk don't make immigration and detention policy in the United States of America, which used to be a democracy in the days before Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump. I am beyond disgusted; I am revolted by many of the comments on this thread.

And, no, Forest, the fact that some people support a woman's right to choose does NOT justify detaining people indefinitely without charges for the crime of seeking a life where they don't fear being murdered or tortured and where they can get a job, nor does it justify kidnapping their kids. Didn't you learn that two wrongs don't make a right when you were little?
The last sentence reads as though you believe abortion is wrong. Based on your previous postings, I can't believe that your position has changed.

Scrap on doc! Baby be damned.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

In a place such as this, our God is/was still able to use these things for His purposes. Corrie ten Boom was in Ravensbrck and is a glimpse of what God can do with man's sinful, murderous nature.

I'm sure it will be a visit with many mixed emotions.
I've been there also. I think it is more a testament to the depravity of a people who embrace a messenger of division, fear, blame and prejudice. I doubt those incarcerated there felt "God" used those "things for His purposes." It seems to me "God" ignored the cries and prayers of "His people."
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Forest Bueller said:

Waco1947 said:

I am here. Moving, painful, profound, deeply saddening.
All the idiots here are like Thomas "unless I see." It's simple stupidity to foubt.


The only idiot I see is you trying to tie in your political enemies with those evil times as if they are somehow sharing a similar mindset. You live in a world of fantasy.






Fantasy,envy, entitlement, and fear .
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Liar! Tying political enemies to Dachau? That's a lie prove.
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drahthaar
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The facts about the border immigration crisis in no way compare with Dachau, Auschwitz or Mathausen, and it either ignorance of the latter or deceit about the former that underlies that comparison.

Can we and should we "do better"? Absolutely, but the idea of "no borders" or laws is as disastrous for both immigrant and the nation as mean-spirited "hard borders" and laws, long-term. The long-term view should drive the short-term responses and must encompass a global view of reality rather than a view focused on some political bias or adopted opinion fostered by any group of people.
Waco1947
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Sorry Canada you apparently need to come to Jesus to know human suffering and some selfish little vendetta you have. And it is little. 6,000,000 die and all you got it a personal slander
Don you need to pray for your souls and the souls of the 6,000,000 who died and the 1,000s who facilitated those deaths. You are a little mean heartless soul who is using the dead for your cruelty. Shame on you. Ask your pastor.
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witchmo said:

The facts about the border immigration crisis in no way compare with Dachau, Auschwitz or Mathausen, and it either ignorance of the latter or deceit about the former that underlies that comparison.

Can we and should we "do better"? Absolutely, but the idea of "no borders" or laws is as disastrous for both immigrant and the nation as mean-spirited "hard borders" and laws, long-term. The long-term view should drive the short-term responses and must encompass a global view of reality rather than a view focused on some political bias or adopted opinion fostered by any group of people.
Who said they compared? Not me. I said let's not be a nation to fall into brutality based on skin color, religion or sexuality. A those traits belong to the Nazi. Let's be careful with hate.
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D. C. Bear
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Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:

Jinx 2 said:

Waco1947 said:

Tomorrow we visit Dachau. I visit with a sense of dread, despair, love of humankind, fear for my nation and to feel the pain of a People in a inhuman time. Be in prayer is for us and yourselves.
Citizens of the these United States share hope and justice together in these days of division.Never again
I remember that as the coldest I've ever been, and part of that cold was the effect on the soul of being in a place designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale.
I'm honestly surprised that bothered you. You openly support places that do exactly that.
Nope you damn liar
Abortion clinics are designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale, depending on how you want to define "mass scale." Both should bother you.
Waco1947
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:

Jinx 2 said:

Waco1947 said:

Tomorrow we visit Dachau. I visit with a sense of dread, despair, love of humankind, fear for my nation and to feel the pain of a People in a inhuman time. Be in prayer is for us and yourselves.
Citizens of the these United States share hope and justice together in these days of division.Never again
I remember that as the coldest I've ever been, and part of that cold was the effect on the soul of being in a place designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale.
I'm honestly surprised that bothered you. You openly support places that do exactly that.
Nope you damn liar
Abortion clinics are designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale, depending on how you want to define "mass scale." Both should bother you.
Jerk, start your own damn thread. Or read the account of the cruel experiments on women and get back to me. Read the account of of abused children. Neglected children. Suicidal children. Or the children abandoned by you after birth. And finally stop the stupid dismissiveness of women that verges on misogyny because you don't damn give a damn about their hearts and souls.
Women have rights just like you.
Waco1947
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Waco1947 said:

Sorry Canada you apparently need to come to Jesus to know human suffering and some selfish little vendetta you have. And it is little. 6,000,000 die and all you got it a personal slander
Don you need to pray for your souls and the souls of the 6,000,000 who died and the 1,000s who facilitated those deaths. You are a little mean heartless soul who is using the dead for your cruelty. Shame on you. Ask your pastor.


Jesus preached LIFE .....old fraud you support DEATH.

You do not know Jesus whatsoever.

For you to even use His name is complete hypocrisy.
Waco1947
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One tries to focus on the magnitude of the loss of life and it overwhelms the soul. 6,000,000 lives and stories of love, joy, horror and suffering. To focus on one life crushes the soul.
How does a soldier beat a man to death; go home; take of his uniform and hug his children. How does bury that empathy behind so much hate.
It begins with dehumanizing the man you torture. It's been pounded into your head that they are evil and the cause of all your troubles. So you raise your whip and strike as hard as you can because he needs to die but not before you make suffer. He needs to suffer horrors for being a Jew, or black, or Roma, or insane, or homosexual, or an invalid or a moron.
Watch how people talk about the "other." They talk about preachers being frauds or baby killers or gay lovers or Socialists so that they can treat them as a nobody; as the villain; as the enemy. All the time being self righteous that you are doing God's work.
Humans are humans are humans.
Gays are human
Women who abort are human
Muslims are human
Hispanics are human
Caravaners are human
Transgender are human
Blacks are humans
Humans are humans are humans. God said so. "I will create man and woman in my image."
Jesus said, "The least of these are me."
John said, "See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!"
Dachau says we are humans not computer keyboards
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Golem
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:

Jinx 2 said:

Waco1947 said:

Tomorrow we visit Dachau. I visit with a sense of dread, despair, love of humankind, fear for my nation and to feel the pain of a People in a inhuman time. Be in prayer is for us and yourselves.
Citizens of the these United States share hope and justice together in these days of division.Never again
I remember that as the coldest I've ever been, and part of that cold was the effect on the soul of being in a place designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale.
I'm honestly surprised that bothered you. You openly support places that do exactly that.
Nope you damn liar
Abortion clinics are designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale, depending on how you want to define "mass scale." Both should bother you.
Jerk, start your own damn thread. Or read the account of the cruel experiments on women and get back to me. Read the account of of abused children. Neglected children. Suicidal children. Or the children abandoned by you after birth. And finally stop the stupid dismissiveness of women that verges on misogyny because you don't damn give a damn about their hearts and souls.
Women have rights just like you.


Did the baby murder champion just go all 'ad hom' again?!?! Say it ain't so!!!

I guess he gets protective of murder when the murdered babies are a result of his statements. It's strange he doesn't see the genocidal destruction of 6m Jews was also the result of his socialist ideology. It's surprising he's not defending that too.
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:

Jinx 2 said:

Waco1947 said:

Tomorrow we visit Dachau. I visit with a sense of dread, despair, love of humankind, fear for my nation and to feel the pain of a People in a inhuman time. Be in prayer is for us and yourselves.
Citizens of the these United States share hope and justice together in these days of division.Never again
I remember that as the coldest I've ever been, and part of that cold was the effect on the soul of being in a place designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale.
I'm honestly surprised that bothered you. You openly support places that do exactly that.
Nope you damn liar
Abortion clinics are designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale, depending on how you want to define "mass scale." Both should bother you.
Jerk, start your own damn thread. Or read the account of the cruel experiments on women and get back to me. Read the account of of abused children. Neglected children. Suicidal children. Or the children abandoned by you after birth. And finally stop the stupid dismissiveness of women that verges on misogyny because you don't damn give a damn about their hearts and souls.
Women have rights just like you.
Rights are a good thing. Some are God-given and some are created by mankind. Which ones do you suppose carry more weight?
Sam Lowry
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Liberals for the last two years: Trump is Hitler!

Waco1947, yesterday: I think of the Holocaust and fear for my nation.

Me: Hey, isn't it funny how some people like to compare Trump's America with Nazi Germany?

Liberals: *GASP* What? How can you say that! That is beyond disgusting! Shame on you!
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Waco1947 said:

I am here. Moving, painful, profound, deeply saddening.
All the idiots here are like Thomas "unless I see." It's simple stupidity to foubt.
Munchausen Syndrome right there.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:

Jinx 2 said:

Waco1947 said:

Tomorrow we visit Dachau. I visit with a sense of dread, despair, love of humankind, fear for my nation and to feel the pain of a People in a inhuman time. Be in prayer is for us and yourselves.
Citizens of the these United States share hope and justice together in these days of division.Never again
I remember that as the coldest I've ever been, and part of that cold was the effect on the soul of being in a place designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale.
I'm honestly surprised that bothered you. You openly support places that do exactly that.
Nope you damn liar
Abortion clinics are designed solely for human extermination on a mass scale, depending on how you want to define "mass scale." Both should bother you.
Jerk, start your own damn thread. Or read the account of the cruel experiments on women and get back to me. Read the account of of abused children. Neglected children. Suicidal children. Or the children abandoned by you after birth. And finally stop the stupid dismissiveness of women that verges on misogyny because you don't damn give a damn about their hearts and souls.
Women have rights just like you.


The bitterness you display is sad.
You begin with a pointless personal attack. Does it make you feel better to call another person a jerk and use profanity to tell him to start his own thread? You have nothing to couter the fact that abortion clinics are places designed for human extermination on a mass scale, so you resort to personal attacks and ranting about things that have no bearing whatsoever on whether or not abortion clinics are places designed for human extermination on a mass scale. Your bitterness and rage is probably because those abortion clinics you support do disturb you, even if on a subconscious level.
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Oldbear83 said:

Waco1947 said:

I am here. Moving, painful, profound, deeply saddening.
All the idiots here are like Thomas "unless I see." It's simple stupidity to foubt.
Munchausen Syndrome right there.




Think you've nailed it 83.....great catch .
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what was the inscription?

Arbeit Macht Durstig??

Powerful.

- LFS

{ sipping coffee }

Go Bears!
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Dachau, Auschwitz and the other Nazi Death Camps have memorials for good reasons. Even the infamous Soviet Gulags were not designed primarily to kill prisoners, as the Nazis did with their camps. Certainly no facility ever constructed by the American government can be compared to the Nazi's death camps - any argument making such a comparison is de facto false, a product of gross ignorance at best, or willful dishonesty in many other cases.

People for the overwhelming majority visit the camp memorials for the same reason people visit Holocaust museums; to honor the memory of the victims, and those who fought to end the regimes like the Nazis or the Soviets. Most visit the memorials for personal reasons, and it is completely out of line to use such memorials in an attempt to shame political opponents whose worst act in their lives does not come anything close to these atrocities. Such comparisons cheapen the suffering of the death camp inmates, and reduce the evil of the Nazis to caricature, to be used for dishonest political advantage.

Not one person here supported the Nazis values or philosophies. The lesson of Dachau for us is to protect the American Dream and respect the good our neighbors do. Leave hypocrisy to the fools who can manage nothing better.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Waco1947 said:

Tomorrow we visit Dachau. I visit with a sense of dread, despair, love of humankind, fear for my nation and to feel the pain of a People in a inhuman time. Be in prayer is for us and yourselves.
Citizens of the these United States share hope and justice together in these days of division.Never again
At first glance I thought you were going to Macau. That got my attention.
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After your diatribe Jinx, you realize your hero Obama released lone children over to human trafficers in their rush to get them back to an adult.

What they are doing now isn't perfect, but precipitated by an uninvited invasion. Display #1 for a reason to construct a real barrier, and observe real laws. This country cannot sustain continual invasion.

The far lefts desire to tie Trump to Nazis is reprehensible.
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Run Forest run

Keep running
Waco1947
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Oldbear83 said:

Dachau, Auschwitz and the other Nazi Death Camps have memorials for good reasons. Even the infamous Soviet Gulags were not designed primarily to kill prisoners, as the Nazis did with their camps. Certainly no facility ever constructed by the American government can be compared to the Nazi's death camps - any argument making such a comparison is de facto false, a product of gross ignorance at best, or willful dishonesty in many other cases.

People for the overwhelming majority visit the camp memorials for the same reason people visit Holocaust museums; to honor the memory of the victims, and those who fought to end the regimes like the Nazis or the Soviets. Most visit the memorials for personal reasons, and it is completely out of line to use such memorials in an attempt to shame political opponents whose worst act in their lives does not come anything close to these atrocities. Such comparisons cheapen the suffering of the death camp inmates, and reduce the evil of the Nazis to caricature, to be used for dishonest political advantage.

Not one person here supported the Nazis values or philosophies. The lesson of Dachau for us is to protect the American Dream and respect the good our neighbors do. Leave hypocrisy to the fools who can manage nothing better.

One of reason the memorials exist is so "We never forget."
People go for personal reasons so that we grieve the inhumanity of humankind to one another. We contemplate the evil and hatred of our on hearts. We contemplate how easy it is to fall into the trap of dehumanizing another person (for example calling a pastor 'a fraud' when one does not know a damn thing about that pastor as pastor or person).
BUT over against the myriad ways we experience termination camp personally we cannot and must not let of the political implications for our day.
The political implications cannot simply be reduced to "the USA is nothing like Nazism so don't compare us to them." That is our and our blindness to the dehumanization happening now with our President. His targets change but he has come after Hispanics, blacks, gays, immigrants, trans peoples, lying about protesting players, lying about me a Democrat, slandering people as socialists, slandering citizens, attacking the free press as the enemy of the people, Muslims, not condemning the murderous Crown Prince of SA. .
If our personal revulsion of the extermination really means "never again" then we damn well better take a critical look at our political leadership and especially DT.
I think one could take any Hitler speech on his hate for Jews, invalids , goys, Romas, and his shameless use of blaming them for the economic plight of Germany and plug in Muslims, immigrants, blacks, Democrats and it would match perfectly. It began with his campaign announcement speech ("They are sending...." who the hell is 'they').
As citizens touched personally, deeply by the pain of Auschwitz then that citizen must enter the political realm and head off this danger to our humanity, democracy and citizenship.
Personal and political are bound together
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Waco1947 said:

One tries to focus on the magnitude of the loss of life and it overwhelms the soul. 6,000,000 7.6 Million lives. To focus on one life crushes the soul.
How does a soldier doctor beat stab a man baby to death; go home; take of his uniform and hug his children. How does bury that empathy behind so much hate.
It begins with dehumanizing the man human you torture murder. It's been pounded into your head that they are evil worthless clumps of tissue and the cause of all your troubles.
Watch how people talk about the "other." They talk about preachers babies being being frauds or baby killers or gay lovers or Socialists "unwanted" so that they can treat them as a nobody; All the time being self righteous that you are doing God's work. somehow "championing" women.
Humans are humans are humans.
Gays are human
Women who abort are human
Muslims are human
Hispanics are human
Caravaners are human
Transgender are human
Blacks are humans
Unborn babies are humans
Humans are humans are humans. God said so. "I will create man and woman in my image."
Jesus said, "The least of these are me." (You know, like the most defenseless humans)
John said, "See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!"


FIFY
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bearassnekkid said:

Waco1947 said:

One tries to focus on the magnitude of the loss of life and it overwhelms the soul. 6,000,000 7.6 Million lives. To focus on one life crushes the soul.
How does a soldier doctor beat stab a man baby to death; go home; take of his uniform and hug his children. How does bury that empathy behind so much hate.
It begins with dehumanizing the man human you torture murder. It's been pounded into your head that they are evil worthless clumps of tissue and the cause of all your troubles.
Watch how people talk about the "other." They talk about preachers babies being being frauds or baby killers or gay lovers or Socialists "unwanted" so that they can treat them as a nobody; All the time being self righteous that you are doing God's work. somehow "championing" women.
Humans are humans are humans.
Gays are human
Women who abort are human
Muslims are human
Hispanics are human
Caravaners are human
Transgender are human
Blacks are humans
Unborn babies are humans
Humans are humans are humans. God said so. "I will create man and woman in my image."
Jesus said, "The least of these are me." (You know, like the most defenseless humans)
John said, "See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!"


FIFY
You didn't do a damn thing but lie. If you believe it then put up on your damn post but don't slander mine. Puts your up and take the heat. Go ahead hate the women who seek abortions for being ****s, unable to control themselves, gullible for believing lies of men, who abort for "convenience", who are poor and 1, who Dads beAt them to death, whose beat them until they abort, who kill themselves rather face your hate, who accidentally kill themselves by self aborting; not requiring the same of yourself by getting a vasectomy, or castrated, for women being drunk and getting raped or drugged and raped or having their accuser deny rape. Why you hate women is beyond my understanding. You "love" the fetus for 9 months them it's "Damn you girl or woman for being so stupid. Suffer the consequences of your stupidity." No healhcare for you, no child care, no livable wage, no prenatal care. It's your own damn fault for being stupid P.S. Get back to when the kid turns 18. We I'll need him/her to fight a stupid war; get PTSD and then we can abandon him again.."
There I fixed your stupidity for you and your stupid moral superiority because it requires nothing you but declare me and these women "killers." Meanwhile you ignore the broken down,poor and immigrant in your midst and hide behind your cartoon faith that simply praises Jesus for all your blessings which of only you earned. You were smart to line up on the white parent line in the USA line before your birth because you're human and made all those choices.
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Waco1947 said:

bearassnekkid said:

Waco1947 said:

One tries to focus on the magnitude of the loss of life and it overwhelms the soul. 6,000,000 7.6 Million lives. To focus on one life crushes the soul.
How does a soldier doctor beat stab a man baby to death; go home; take of his uniform and hug his children. How does bury that empathy behind so much hate.
It begins with dehumanizing the man human you torture murder. It's been pounded into your head that they are evil worthless clumps of tissue and the cause of all your troubles.
Watch how people talk about the "other." They talk about preachers babies being being frauds or baby killers or gay lovers or Socialists "unwanted" so that they can treat them as a nobody; All the time being self righteous that you are doing God's work. somehow "championing" women.
Humans are humans are humans.
Gays are human
Women who abort are human
Muslims are human
Hispanics are human
Caravaners are human
Transgender are human
Blacks are humans
Unborn babies are humans
Humans are humans are humans. God said so. "I will create man and woman in my image."
Jesus said, "The least of these are me." (You know, like the most defenseless humans)
John said, "See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!"


FIFY
You didn't do a damn thing but lie. If you believe it then put up on your damn post but don't slander mine. Puts your up and take the heat. Go ahead hate the women who seek abortions for being ****s, unable to control themselves, gullible for believing lies of men, who abort for "convenience", who are poor and 1, who Dads beAt them to death, whose beat them until they abort, who kill themselves rather face your hate, who accidentally kill themselves by self aborting; not requiring the same of yourself by getting a vasectomy, or castrated, for women being drunk and getting raped or drugged and raped or having their accuser deny rape. Why you hate women is beyond my understanding. You "love" the fetus for 9 months them it's "Damn you girl or woman for being so stupid. Suffer the consequences of your stupidity." No healhcare for you, no child care, no livable wage, no prenatal care. It's your own damn fault for being stupid P.S. Get back to when the kid turns 18. We I'll need him/her to fight a stupid war; get PTSD and then we can abandon him again.."
There I fixed your stupidity for you and your stupid moral superiority because it requires nothing you but declare me and these women "killers." Meanwhile you ignore the broken down,poor and immigrant in your midst and hide behind your cartoon faith that simply praises Jesus for all your blessings which of only you earned. You were smart to line up on the white parent line in the USA line before your birth because you're human and made all those choices.



Ok Waco, are you now at Dachau? Or not? Where have your travels taken you?

That post above is quite an effort on above post in middle of night to be half way around earth?

Fact is, your posting on Sicem has been prolific over last 24 or so hours, for someone that was traveling so far and to such interesting places

Can you see why I don't believe you're traveling but are instead in front of your laptop in your comfy Waco home?
 
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