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She is a very pretty press secretary

Ok carry on

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She is whip smart,beautiful and evil to her core

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Evil? Political disagreement means evil?

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She is very sharp and very poised. That takes some freaking skill to recite Trumps lies and talk in circles during those briefings. So, much better than the Sara Sanders.

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Hilarious

She Didn't Blind Me With Science

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She is a very pretty press secretary

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She is whip smart,beautiful and evil to her core

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Evil? Political disagreement means evil?

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She is very sharp and very poised. That takes some freaking skill to recite Trumps lies and talk in circles during those briefings. So, much better than the Sara Sanders.

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Po ole JR spouts his TDS as expected

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You best be careful, there, Mikey, Little Johnny Bear has lapped you twice as the most dim-witted poster on the site. You are about to give up a lap. And I'm coming to Colorado tomorrow.....watch your back.......lol

July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0% The "2-Week Projection Using Bed Occupancy Growth" chart (3rd chart below) has flattened a lot from the July 4 chart
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Look here for Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

What a difference. Curve flatter

JULY 4


JULY 16

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She is a very pretty press secretary

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She is whip smart,beautiful and evil to her core

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She is whipsmart and evil to the core. But she looks like she escaped from a mannekin factory. Please catch it and put it back in the window at Macy's.

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CATFIGHT!!!!!

McConnell asking the brain dead idiots to wear masks, Hogan calling out Trump for failing to lead, Tate Reeves popping the herd immunity balloon. There are some cracks appearing in the previously impenetrable wall of reckless GOP stupidity. I guess we should be thankful it only took 138,000 dead US citizens for the cracks to start

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She is a very pretty press secretary

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She is whip smart,beautiful and evil to her core

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Evil? Political disagreement means evil?

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Not usually. With her, yes.

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Please don't go there (to 'my political opponent is evil' place)

Once there, it is difficult to return

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I have no problem with her politics. What I have a problem with his her transparent and consuming thirst for the limelight.

IMHO, She has remarkable skills but has chosen to put them to use solely to benefit herself. Complete lack of principles. From her Wiki page:

While in law school, McEnany appeared on CNN as a paid commentator and although not initially a supporter of Donald Trump, she supported him in the 2016 presidential election. However, in early 2015, before becoming a Trump supporter, McEnany was highly critical of him, declaring on CNN and Fox Business that "Donald Trump has shown himself to be a showman" and it was "unfortunate" and "inauthentic" to call him a Republican. McEnany called his comments about Mexican immigrants "racist." She began supporting Trump after receiving advice over cocktails from Michael Marcantonio, a fellow summer associate at a law firm and a Democrat. He told her "Donald Trump is going to be your nominee," and if "a smart, young, blond Harvard graduate" wanted "to get on television and have a career as a political pundit, you would be wise to be an early backer". According to The Guardian, she took this advice.

She is just a sellout to the nth degree. She could have been much more.

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Her remarks (bolded) are different, but in substance similar to those of Ted Cruz during the 2016 primary season. Amazing how Cruz changed his tune toward Trump once Trump got nominated.

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She is whipsmart and evil to the core. But she looks like she escaped from a mannekin factory. Please catch it and put it back in the window at Macy's.

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Looks like we are smack-dab in the middle of a good old fashioned cat fight.

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If I had a nickel for every time one of the "I heard from a source such-and-such is going to shut down soon"...

Also, just saw that our friends to the north of us have extended the border shutdown another 30 days. Just fantastic. Things are going swimmingly, good job America.

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Hide and watch, clown.

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July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

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July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

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Thanks for posting

I learned a new word. Covicane. An interesting read, especially if you are in Houston.

The Daily Beast: I Was an Army COVID Planner. Trust Me: Texas Is F*cked..
https://www.thedailybeast.com/i-was-a-military-covid-planner-trust-me-texas-is-in-deep-deep-trouble?source=us-news&via=rss

July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

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July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

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Any idea of where they are on staffing?

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July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

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Any idea of where they are on staffing?

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(Bloomberg) -- N.J. Schools to Give Students an All-Remote Option in Fall

New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy said the state's plan for reopening schools will give parents the option to choose an entirely online option if they're concerned about the coronavirus.

Murphy, speaking at a press conference in Trenton, said the state is planning to teach children both at home and in classrooms this fall. He said it will issue guidance to parents about the all-at-home option.

July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
July 19 Total 1.361 | COVID 664 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

Missouri

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To remain as a true Republican, do you have to turn over your brain at the door? I've voted Rep in 95% of the elections in which I have voted (at least since the Dems in Texas became Reps) decades ago.. This is just another example of how I have to shake my head hearing another brain-dead comment from a Rep office holder. Does the bozo not realize the real danger is to the teachers and the parents and grandparents the kids come home to or is he just too afraid of the head bozo?

This dude kinda looks like Jeff Dunham's character Bubba J. That statement kinda sounds like something Bubba J would say!

To be a democrat do you have to check your balls at the door?

And please stop saying you're republican

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To be a democrat do you have to check your balls at the door?

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His Republican what? Finish your thought.

Corrected

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To remain as a true Republican, do you have to turn over your brain at the door? I've voted Rep in 95% of the elections in which I have voted (at least since the Dems in Texas became Reps) decades ago.. This is just another example of how I have to shake my head hearing another brain-dead comment from a Rep office holder. Does the bozo not realize the real danger is to the teachers and the parents and grandparents the kids come home to or is he just too afraid of the head bozo?

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I think he is right. Grandparents need to get out of the way. It is easier to Get the elderly out of the way than the 80% of us. Teachers without underlying conditions will be ok. Teachers with underlying conditions have a decision to make. We shouldn't destroy the economy for teachers with underlying conditions (<1% of the population)

Parents without underlying conditions will be OK. Kids will be ok. Most teachers will be ok. The children who are at risk are not the children from rich parents.

We appear to be in the early stages of bending the curve such that hospitals will be ok (we'll see).

We are in the midst of a huge cost-benefit experiment. The cost is the tradeoff between destroying the economy vs saving it. The cost is unnecessary deaths vs having jobs for folks so their lives won't be destroyed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/14/schools-coronavirus-infection-rate-low-german-study-finds.html

Schools have low coronavirus infection rate, German study finds

A study of 2,000 children and teachers at a school in the German state of Saxony has found very few coronavirus antibodies among them, suggesting that schools and young people do not play as big a role in transmission as previously feared.

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To be a democrat do you have to check your balls at the door?

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He doesn't have thoughts, he has brain queefs

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To remain as a true Republican, do you have to turn over your brain at the door? I've voted Rep in 95% of the elections in which I have voted (at least since the Dems in Texas became Reps) decades ago.. This is just another example of how I have to shake my head hearing another brain-dead comment from a Rep office holder. Does the bozo not realize the real danger is to the teachers and the parents and grandparents the kids come home to or is he just too afraid of the head bozo?

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I think he is right. Grandparents need to get out of the way. It is easier to Get the elderly out of the way than the 80% of us. Teachers without underlying conditions will be ok. Teachers with underlying conditions have a decision to make. We shouldn't destroy the economy for teachers with underlying conditions (<1% of the population)

Parents without underlying conditions will be OK. Kids will be ok. Most teachers will be ok. The children who are at risk are not the children from rich parents.

We appear to be in the early stages of bending the curve such that hospitals will be ok (we'll see).

We are in the midst of a huge cost-benefit experiment. The cost is the tradeoff between destroying the economy vs saving it. The cost is unnecessary deaths vs having jobs for folks so their lives won't be destroyed.

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you know anything about multiplier effects in economic decisions?? Sounds like you don't

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To remain as a true Republican, do you have to turn over your brain at the door? I've voted Rep in 95% of the elections in which I have voted (at least since the Dems in Texas became Reps) decades ago.. This is just another example of how I have to shake my head hearing another brain-dead comment from a Rep office holder. Does the bozo not realize the real danger is to the teachers and the parents and grandparents the kids come home to or is he just too afraid of the head bozo?

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I think he is right. Grandparents need to get out of the way. It is easier to Get the elderly out of the way than the 80% of us. Teachers without underlying conditions will be ok. Teachers with underlying conditions have a decision to make. We shouldn't destroy the economy for teachers with underlying conditions (<1% of the population)

Parents without underlying conditions will be OK. Kids will be ok. Most teachers will be ok. The children who are at risk are not the children from rich parents.

We appear to be in the early stages of bending the curve such that hospitals will be ok (we'll see).

We are in the midst of a huge cost-benefit experiment. The cost is the tradeoff between destroying the economy vs saving it. The cost is unnecessary deaths vs having jobs for folks so their lives won't be destroyed.

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you know anything about multiplier effects in economic decisions?? Sounds like you don't

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I don't. Please help me

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Jacques Strap said:

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To remain as a true Republican, do you have to turn over your brain at the door? I've voted Rep in 95% of the elections in which I have voted (at least since the Dems in Texas became Reps) decades ago.. This is just another example of how I have to shake my head hearing another brain-dead comment from a Rep office holder. Does the bozo not realize the real danger is to the teachers and the parents and grandparents the kids come home to or is he just too afraid of the head bozo?

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I think he is right. Grandparents need to get out of the way. It is easier to Get the elderly out of the way than the 80% of us. Teachers without underlying conditions will be ok. Teachers with underlying conditions have a decision to make. We shouldn't destroy the economy for teachers with underlying conditions (<1% of the population)

Parents without underlying conditions will be OK. Kids will be ok. Most teachers will be ok. The children who are at risk are not the children from rich parents.

We appear to be in the early stages of bending the curve such that hospitals will be ok (we'll see).

We are in the midst of a huge cost-benefit experiment. The cost is the tradeoff between destroying the economy vs saving it. The cost is unnecessary deaths vs having jobs for folks so their lives won't be destroyed.

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you know anything about multiplier effects in economic decisions?? Sounds like you don't

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I don't. Please help me

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There's serious multiplier effects involved in every economic decision.

So, when a new company comes into town X number of new jobs, especially salaried type jobs, you have a net income effect on the community that can get in the neighborhood of up to 5x due to residual job increases.

The same can go the other way, teachers having to hold out for the year can lose their jobs (1 year contracts), which causes them to stop doing other things (paying for childcare on an under school age child, maybe 4 hair colorings/yr rather than 8, etc.). It has a huge multiplicative nature on the economy.

My wife, a teacher, is basically 7 months pregnant right now and still doesn't have word from her district what their plan is. She only has so many state offered days off, after that, we have to pay the district for her sub. That's understandable. But it's the same deal if she were to go back and then get sick. I stilll pay out of pocket for it. What would a 1 month stay in the hospital for her cost me with sub teachers and medical bills? Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Not to mention, there is an horrific dearth of people on the list to substitute teach for the upcoming year. Good luck if any of y'all have a teacher get sick.

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To remain as a true Republican, do you have to turn over your brain at the door? I've voted Rep in 95% of the elections in which I have voted (at least since the Dems in Texas became Reps) decades ago.. This is just another example of how I have to shake my head hearing another brain-dead comment from a Rep office holder. Does the bozo not realize the real danger is to the teachers and the parents and grandparents the kids come home to or is he just too afraid of the head bozo?

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I think he is right. Grandparents need to get out of the way. It is easier to Get the elderly out of the way than the 80% of us. Teachers without underlying conditions will be ok. Teachers with underlying conditions have a decision to make. We shouldn't destroy the economy for teachers with underlying conditions (<1% of the population)

Parents without underlying conditions will be OK. Kids will be ok. Most teachers will be ok. The children who are at risk are not the children from rich parents.

We appear to be in the early stages of bending the curve such that hospitals will be ok (we'll see).

We are in the midst of a huge cost-benefit experiment. The cost is the tradeoff between destroying the economy vs saving it. The cost is unnecessary deaths vs having jobs for folks so their lives won't be destroyed.

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you know anything about multiplier effects in economic decisions?? Sounds like you don't

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I don't. Please help me

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There's serious multiplier effects involved in every economic decision.

So, when a new company comes into town X number of new jobs, especially salaried type jobs, you have a net income effect on the community that can get in the neighborhood of up to 5x due to residual job increases.

The same can go the other way, teachers having to hold out for the year can lose their jobs (1 year contracts), which causes them to stop doing other things (paying for childcare on an under school age child, maybe 4 hair colorings/yr rather than 8, etc.). It has a huge multiplicative nature on the economy.

My wife, a teacher, is basically 7 months pregnant right now and still doesn't have word from her district what their plan is. She only has so many state offered days off, after that, we have to pay the district for her sub. That's understandable. But it's the same deal if she were to go back and then get sick. I stilll pay out of pocket for it. What would a 1 month stay in the hospital for her cost me with sub teachers and medical bills? Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Not to mention, there is an horrific dearth of people on the list to substitute teach for the upcoming year. Good luck if any of y'all have a teacher get sick.

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I know that. My mother was a teacher, my wife was a teacher, my daughter was a teacher, my daughter in law is a teacher. I'm sympathetic, but unpersuaded

I said it was a cost benefit experiment. Who should bear the burden?

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Osodecentx said:

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Missouri

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To remain as a true Republican, do you have to turn over your brain at the door? I've voted Rep in 95% of the elections in which I have voted (at least since the Dems in Texas became Reps) decades ago.. This is just another example of how I have to shake my head hearing another brain-dead comment from a Rep office holder. Does the bozo not realize the real danger is to the teachers and the parents and grandparents the kids come home to or is he just too afraid of the head bozo?

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I think he is right. Grandparents need to get out of the way. It is easier to Get the elderly out of the way than the 80% of us. Teachers without underlying conditions will be ok. Teachers with underlying conditions have a decision to make. We shouldn't destroy the economy for teachers with underlying conditions (<1% of the population)

Parents without underlying conditions will be OK. Kids will be ok. Most teachers will be ok. The children who are at risk are not the children from rich parents.

We appear to be in the early stages of bending the curve such that hospitals will be ok (we'll see).

We are in the midst of a huge cost-benefit experiment. The cost is the tradeoff between destroying the economy vs saving it. The cost is unnecessary deaths vs having jobs for folks so their lives won't be destroyed.

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you know anything about multiplier effects in economic decisions?? Sounds like you don't

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I don't. Please help me

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There's serious multiplier effects involved in every economic decision.

So, when a new company comes into town X number of new jobs, especially salaried type jobs, you have a net income effect on the community that can get in the neighborhood of up to 5x due to residual job increases.

The same can go the other way, teachers having to hold out for the year can lose their jobs (1 year contracts), which causes them to stop doing other things (paying for childcare on an under school age child, maybe 4 hair colorings/yr rather than 8, etc.). It has a huge multiplicative nature on the economy.

My wife, a teacher, is basically 7 months pregnant right now and still doesn't have word from her district what their plan is. She only has so many state offered days off, after that, we have to pay the district for her sub. That's understandable. But it's the same deal if she were to go back and then get sick. I stilll pay out of pocket for it. What would a 1 month stay in the hospital for her cost me with sub teachers and medical bills? Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Not to mention, there is an horrific dearth of people on the list to substitute teach for the upcoming year. Good luck if any of y'all have a teacher get sick.

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I know that. My mother was a teacher, my wife was a teacher, my daughter was a teacher, my daughter in law is a teacher. I'm sympathetic, but unpersuaded

I said it was a cost benefit experiment. Who should bear the burden?

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The localities will bear the burden, as well as the folks that are getting by. Then there's a multiplicative effect as they stop spending money on other goods and services, so other things fail.

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To remain as a true Republican, do you have to turn over your brain at the door? I've voted Rep in 95% of the elections in which I have voted (at least since the Dems in Texas became Reps) decades ago.. This is just another example of how I have to shake my head hearing another brain-dead comment from a Rep office holder. Does the bozo not realize the real danger is to the teachers and the parents and grandparents the kids come home to or is he just too afraid of the head bozo?

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I think he is right. Grandparents need to get out of the way. It is easier to Get the elderly out of the way than the 80% of us. Teachers without underlying conditions will be ok. Teachers with underlying conditions have a decision to make. We shouldn't destroy the economy for teachers with underlying conditions (<1% of the population)

Parents without underlying conditions will be OK. Kids will be ok. Most teachers will be ok. The children who are at risk are not the children from rich parents.

We appear to be in the early stages of bending the curve such that hospitals will be ok (we'll see).

We are in the midst of a huge cost-benefit experiment. The cost is the tradeoff between destroying the economy vs saving it. The cost is unnecessary deaths vs having jobs for folks so their lives won't be destroyed.

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you know anything about multiplier effects in economic decisions?? Sounds like you don't

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I don't. Please help me

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There's serious multiplier effects involved in every economic decision.

So, when a new company comes into town X number of new jobs, especially salaried type jobs, you have a net income effect on the community that can get in the neighborhood of up to 5x due to residual job increases.

The same can go the other way, teachers having to hold out for the year can lose their jobs (1 year contracts), which causes them to stop doing other things (paying for childcare on an under school age child, maybe 4 hair colorings/yr rather than 8, etc.). It has a huge multiplicative nature on the economy.

My wife, a teacher, is basically 7 months pregnant right now and still doesn't have word from her district what their plan is. She only has so many state offered days off, after that, we have to pay the district for her sub. That's understandable. But it's the same deal if she were to go back and then get sick. I stilll pay out of pocket for it. What would a 1 month stay in the hospital for her cost me with sub teachers and medical bills? Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Not to mention, there is an horrific dearth of people on the list to substitute teach for the upcoming year. Good luck if any of y'all have a teacher get sick.

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I know that. My mother was a teacher, my wife was a teacher, my daughter was a teacher, my daughter in law is a teacher. I'm sympathetic, but unpersuaded

I said it was a cost benefit experiment. Who should bear the burden?

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The localities will bear the burden, as well as the folks that are getting by. Then there's a multiplicative effect as they stop spending money on other goods and services, so other things fail.

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Fair point, but I think it cuts for my side of the argument

I think it's fair to say that a lot of mistakes were made.

Masks should have been consistently encouraged from the start - Fauci screwed up taking two different positions according to what he thought was the supply situation.

Lockdowns should have been used with a lot more restraint by Governors and Mayors, with much better awareness of the economic cost and keeping in mind there are really god reasons such actions were not taken with past pandemics.

Shutting down outpatient facilities was a very bad idea, and doctors should have recognized that and protested.

Republicans and Democrats should both have shot down media attempts to play blame games with the virus response, in order to put patients first and address the crisis as humans, not politicians.

Everything now seems to be echoes of election-year blame games, and it helps no one.