So as far as actual updates.
North Korea still at zero cases, right?
North Korea still at zero cases, right?
libs don't want a cure so the bodies can pile up before the election. Although it won't work, they think they can use the "lack of a cure" to hurt Trump come NovemberOldbear83 said:Even if that is true, since the overwhelming majority of C19 cases are mild, early use of the drug would ease the number of cases and workload on medical staff.quash said:I recall people saying it was untimely given the lack of proper testing. Still seems to be effective only in mild cases.Bearitto said:riflebear said:
I swear I recall people here ridiculing Trump for suggesting this medicine was showing a lot of promise. Strange.
I agree that more testing is needed, but in an emergency 'good but not completely tested' beats the hell out of 'wait until we have something perfect, even if the wait kills people'.
Well, actually the Trump took it more seriously than the dems in congress who were ridiculing him for the travel ban and telling people to go out to eat in New York and go visit China Town.... really, it's okay - go to the parade too....TexasScientist said:You forget that Trump dismissed the seriousness and downplayed the severity for 6 weeks, for political reasons.Bearitto said:quash said:Sigh. There is nothing political about this particular issue.Oldbear83 said:There is evidence the drugs help, nothing so far that stands against it.quash said:Sure, all I was saying is that people here wanted larger trials first, not merely unsubstantiated hope.Oldbear83 said:Even if that is true, since the overwhelming majority of C19 cases are mild, early use of the drug would ease the number of cases and workload on medical staff.quash said:I recall people saying it was untimely given the lack of proper testing. Still seems to be effective only in mild cases.Bearitto said:riflebear said:
I swear I recall people here ridiculing Trump for suggesting this medicine was showing a lot of promise. Strange.
I agree that more testing is needed, but in an emergency 'good but not completely tested' beats the hell out of 'wait until we have something perfect, even if the wait kills people'.
Osodecentex, the argument as to side effects and toxicity is not the key element. Homeopathy has no side effects or toxicity. The danger is in passing up a valid treatment. At the moment there is no such therapeutic to pass up, so the trick is to see exactly how helpful and for whom. Also think the Right to Try law could come into play, just have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that drug.
You are very good at rhetoric quash, not so much at consistency when you play at being 'libertarian'.
The entirety of virus related topics has been politicized by leftists. You knew that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/after-mocking-trump-promoting-hydroxychloroquine-media-acknowleges-might-treat-coronavirus
You don't know too much about science, or you wouldn't automatically assign or associate your ad hominem assumptions with me. Trying to deflect Trump's shortcomings onto the Democrats' shortcomings doesn't excuse him, and vice versa.HashTag said:Well, actually the Trump took it more seriously than the dems in congress who were ridiculing him for the travel ban and telling people to go out to eat in New York and go visit China Town.... really, it's okay - go to the parade too....TexasScientist said:You forget that Trump dismissed the seriousness and downplayed the severity for 6 weeks, for political reasons.Bearitto said:quash said:Sigh. There is nothing political about this particular issue.Oldbear83 said:There is evidence the drugs help, nothing so far that stands against it.quash said:Sure, all I was saying is that people here wanted larger trials first, not merely unsubstantiated hope.Oldbear83 said:Even if that is true, since the overwhelming majority of C19 cases are mild, early use of the drug would ease the number of cases and workload on medical staff.quash said:I recall people saying it was untimely given the lack of proper testing. Still seems to be effective only in mild cases.Bearitto said:riflebear said:
I swear I recall people here ridiculing Trump for suggesting this medicine was showing a lot of promise. Strange.
I agree that more testing is needed, but in an emergency 'good but not completely tested' beats the hell out of 'wait until we have something perfect, even if the wait kills people'.
Osodecentex, the argument as to side effects and toxicity is not the key element. Homeopathy has no side effects or toxicity. The danger is in passing up a valid treatment. At the moment there is no such therapeutic to pass up, so the trick is to see exactly how helpful and for whom. Also think the Right to Try law could come into play, just have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that drug.
You are very good at rhetoric quash, not so much at consistency when you play at being 'libertarian'.
The entirety of virus related topics has been politicized by leftists. You knew that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/after-mocking-trump-promoting-hydroxychloroquine-media-acknowleges-might-treat-coronavirus
But I'm sure in your twisted thinking, that's Trump's fault too.... that the dems were more concerned with impeachment than a potential pandemic.
I swear, I hope you are not a real scientist, I have never in my life seen somebody so constantly ignore facts and variables.
One thing for sure.... it seems you continually ignore facts, variables and results if it takes you to a conclusion you don't want.TexasScientist said:You don't know too much about science, or you wouldn't automatically assign or associate your ad hominem assumptions with me. Trying to deflect Trump's shortcomings onto the Democrats' shortcomings doesn't excuse him, and vice versa.HashTag said:Well, actually the Trump took it more seriously than the dems in congress who were ridiculing him for the travel ban and telling people to go out to eat in New York and go visit China Town.... really, it's okay - go to the parade too....TexasScientist said:You forget that Trump dismissed the seriousness and downplayed the severity for 6 weeks, for political reasons.Bearitto said:quash said:Sigh. There is nothing political about this particular issue.Oldbear83 said:There is evidence the drugs help, nothing so far that stands against it.quash said:Sure, all I was saying is that people here wanted larger trials first, not merely unsubstantiated hope.Oldbear83 said:Even if that is true, since the overwhelming majority of C19 cases are mild, early use of the drug would ease the number of cases and workload on medical staff.quash said:I recall people saying it was untimely given the lack of proper testing. Still seems to be effective only in mild cases.Bearitto said:riflebear said:
I swear I recall people here ridiculing Trump for suggesting this medicine was showing a lot of promise. Strange.
I agree that more testing is needed, but in an emergency 'good but not completely tested' beats the hell out of 'wait until we have something perfect, even if the wait kills people'.
Osodecentex, the argument as to side effects and toxicity is not the key element. Homeopathy has no side effects or toxicity. The danger is in passing up a valid treatment. At the moment there is no such therapeutic to pass up, so the trick is to see exactly how helpful and for whom. Also think the Right to Try law could come into play, just have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that drug.
You are very good at rhetoric quash, not so much at consistency when you play at being 'libertarian'.
The entirety of virus related topics has been politicized by leftists. You knew that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/after-mocking-trump-promoting-hydroxychloroquine-media-acknowleges-might-treat-coronavirus
But I'm sure in your twisted thinking, that's Trump's fault too.... that the dems were more concerned with impeachment than a potential pandemic.
I swear, I hope you are not a real scientist, I have never in my life seen somebody so constantly ignore facts and variables.
riflebear said:
This seems odd and very misleading
When you broaden it the way you did, sure. But that is on you.Bearitto said:quash said:Yippee. What does that have to do with me?Bearitto said:quash said:Sigh. There is nothing political about this particular issue.Oldbear83 said:There is evidence the drugs help, nothing so far that stands against it.quash said:Sure, all I was saying is that people here wanted larger trials first, not merely unsubstantiated hope.Oldbear83 said:Even if that is true, since the overwhelming majority of C19 cases are mild, early use of the drug would ease the number of cases and workload on medical staff.quash said:I recall people saying it was untimely given the lack of proper testing. Still seems to be effective only in mild cases.Bearitto said:riflebear said:
I swear I recall people here ridiculing Trump for suggesting this medicine was showing a lot of promise. Strange.
I agree that more testing is needed, but in an emergency 'good but not completely tested' beats the hell out of 'wait until we have something perfect, even if the wait kills people'.
Osodecentex, the argument as to side effects and toxicity is not the key element. Homeopathy has no side effects or toxicity. The danger is in passing up a valid treatment. At the moment there is no such therapeutic to pass up, so the trick is to see exactly how helpful and for whom. Also think the Right to Try law could come into play, just have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that drug.
You are very good at rhetoric quash, not so much at consistency when you play at being 'libertarian'.
The entirety of virus related topics has been politicized by leftists. You knew that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/after-mocking-trump-promoting-hydroxychloroquine-media-acknowleges-might-treat-coronavirus
Umm, in opposition to your statement, there is in fact something political about this particular issue
Stories develop with time. Are you really blaming the US media for reporting numbers supplied initially by the CCP?riflebear said:
40,000 vs 2500? At least they were close - good job media. As usual they jump to conclusions to try and hurt Trump and shortly after the truth comes out and they have egg on their face - AGAIN.
Florda_mike said:
If death can be attributed to coronavirus it will
Tons of stimulus money makes it happen
Greed baby!
^^^^ Ditto. Maybe he just topped off happy hour. LOLCanada2017 said:Florda_mike said:
If death can be attributed to coronavirus it will
Tons of stimulus money makes it happen
Greed baby!
What in the world are you talking about ?
Canada2017 said:Florda_mike said:
If death can be attributed to coronavirus it will
Tons of stimulus money makes it happen
Greed baby!
What in the world are you talking about ?
TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
I think he's trying to say before this is all over, there will be massive fraud by people, hospitals, companies, polticians... follow the money.Canada2017 said:Florda_mike said:
If death can be attributed to coronavirus it will
Tons of stimulus money makes it happen
Greed baby!
What in the world are you talking about ?
HashTag said:I think he's trying to say before this is all over, there will be massive fraud by people, hospitals, companies, polticians... follow the money.Canada2017 said:Florda_mike said:
If death can be attributed to coronavirus it will
Tons of stimulus money makes it happen
Greed baby!
What in the world are you talking about ?
Hospitals will be able to treat coronavirus patients that have no insurance and get reimbursed by the gov't. During this time when hospitals are losing revenue because they've cancelled elective procedures, I wouldn't be surprised if some (if not many) hospitals, care clincs, emergency centers will claim to be treating coronavirus victims (when they're not) all in the name of - for the pay from the federal gov't.
Just an example
Because you're a liberal arts major, no one pays attention to you.TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
Kyle said:Because you're a liberal arts major, no one pays attention to you.TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
quash said:When you broaden it the way you did, sure. But that is on you.Bearitto said:quash said:Yippee. What does that have to do with me?Bearitto said:quash said:Sigh. There is nothing political about this particular issue.Oldbear83 said:There is evidence the drugs help, nothing so far that stands against it.quash said:Sure, all I was saying is that people here wanted larger trials first, not merely unsubstantiated hope.Oldbear83 said:Even if that is true, since the overwhelming majority of C19 cases are mild, early use of the drug would ease the number of cases and workload on medical staff.quash said:I recall people saying it was untimely given the lack of proper testing. Still seems to be effective only in mild cases.Bearitto said:riflebear said:
I swear I recall people here ridiculing Trump for suggesting this medicine was showing a lot of promise. Strange.
I agree that more testing is needed, but in an emergency 'good but not completely tested' beats the hell out of 'wait until we have something perfect, even if the wait kills people'.
Osodecentex, the argument as to side effects and toxicity is not the key element. Homeopathy has no side effects or toxicity. The danger is in passing up a valid treatment. At the moment there is no such therapeutic to pass up, so the trick is to see exactly how helpful and for whom. Also think the Right to Try law could come into play, just have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that drug.
You are very good at rhetoric quash, not so much at consistency when you play at being 'libertarian'.
The entirety of virus related topics has been politicized by leftists. You knew that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/after-mocking-trump-promoting-hydroxychloroquine-media-acknowleges-might-treat-coronavirus
Umm, in opposition to your statement, there is in fact something political about this particular issue
Now: did you have something to say about my specific reply?
Quash gets more vague when he feels like he is losing.Bearitto said:quash said:When you broaden it the way you did, sure. But that is on you.Bearitto said:quash said:Yippee. What does that have to do with me?Bearitto said:quash said:Sigh. There is nothing political about this particular issue.Oldbear83 said:There is evidence the drugs help, nothing so far that stands against it.quash said:Sure, all I was saying is that people here wanted larger trials first, not merely unsubstantiated hope.Oldbear83 said:Even if that is true, since the overwhelming majority of C19 cases are mild, early use of the drug would ease the number of cases and workload on medical staff.quash said:I recall people saying it was untimely given the lack of proper testing. Still seems to be effective only in mild cases.Bearitto said:riflebear said:
I swear I recall people here ridiculing Trump for suggesting this medicine was showing a lot of promise. Strange.
I agree that more testing is needed, but in an emergency 'good but not completely tested' beats the hell out of 'wait until we have something perfect, even if the wait kills people'.
Osodecentex, the argument as to side effects and toxicity is not the key element. Homeopathy has no side effects or toxicity. The danger is in passing up a valid treatment. At the moment there is no such therapeutic to pass up, so the trick is to see exactly how helpful and for whom. Also think the Right to Try law could come into play, just have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that drug.
You are very good at rhetoric quash, not so much at consistency when you play at being 'libertarian'.
The entirety of virus related topics has been politicized by leftists. You knew that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/after-mocking-trump-promoting-hydroxychloroquine-media-acknowleges-might-treat-coronavirus
Umm, in opposition to your statement, there is in fact something political about this particular issue
Now: did you have something to say about my specific reply?
Ha! I used specific text from your specific reply to respond to your specific reply. Specifically.
Florda_mike said:TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
Ok I agree we should shut everything down over some deaths
7000 of 350,000,000? Seriously?
What do you think about the 1,000,000+ babies murdered per year from abortion? Should we stop work over abortion?
There's others! 9 deaths on Texas highways per day! That's as many deaths each month as California has. Should we stop driving?
25,000 have died from common flu! What would you do about that?
Doesn't matter, there's tons of money chasing these corona stats now so they'll be amplified for another stimulus package
And what about the only 3 governors to outlaw Hydroxychloroquine in their state. All 3 were democrats. Why? TDS and can't let him win again?
Ok, now say this boy is cra cra but I'll be right in the end
I've been scammed before, and so this one is easy to see
You've been wrong every step of the way so far. I don't see that changing anytime soon. You're becoming the Alex Jones of this site.Florda_mike said:TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
Ok I agree we should shut everything down over some deaths
7000 of 350,000,000? Seriously?
What do you think about the 1,000,000+ babies murdered per year from abortion? Should we stop work over abortion?
There's others! 9 deaths on Texas highways per day! That's as many deaths each month as California has. Should we stop driving?
25,000 have died from common flu! What would you do about that?
Doesn't matter, there's tons of money chasing these corona stats now so they'll be amplified for another stimulus package
And what about the only 3 governors to outlaw Hydroxychloroquine in their state. All 3 were democrats. Why? TDS and can't let him win again?
Ok, now say this boy is cra cra but I'll be right in the end
I've been scammed before, and so this one is easy to see
Buddha Bear said:You've been wrong every step of the way so far. I don't see that changing anytime soon. You're becoming the Alex Jones of this site.Florda_mike said:TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
Ok I agree we should shut everything down over some deaths
7000 of 350,000,000? Seriously?
What do you think about the 1,000,000+ babies murdered per year from abortion? Should we stop work over abortion?
There's others! 9 deaths on Texas highways per day! That's as many deaths each month as California has. Should we stop driving?
25,000 have died from common flu! What would you do about that?
Doesn't matter, there's tons of money chasing these corona stats now so they'll be amplified for another stimulus package
And what about the only 3 governors to outlaw Hydroxychloroquine in their state. All 3 were democrats. Why? TDS and can't let him win again?
Ok, now say this boy is cra cra but I'll be right in the end
I've been scammed before, and so this one is easy to see
The difference is, unchecked, this virus has the potential to produce death rates comperable to or greater than the Spanish Flu. None of the deaths rates from pathogens or accidents you cite above approach the potential death rate of this virus.Florda_mike said:TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
Ok I agree we should shut everything down over some deaths
7000 of 350,000,000? Seriously?
What do you think about the 1,000,000+ babies murdered per year from abortion? Should we stop work over abortion?
There's others! 9 deaths on Texas highways per day! That's as many deaths each month as California has. Should we stop driving?
25,000 have died from common flu! What would you do about that?
Doesn't matter, there's tons of money chasing these corona stats now so they'll be amplified for another stimulus package
And what about the only 3 governors to outlaw Hydroxychloroquine in their state. All 3 were democrats. Why? TDS and can't let him win again?
Ok, now say this boy is cra cra but I'll be right in the end
I've been scammed before, and so this one is easy to see
You can't. That's what I thought. I'm as much of a liberal arts major as you are an Aggie mathmatics major.Kyle said:Because you're a liberal arts major, no one pays attention to you.TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
He uses scienceTexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
LTbear said:Buddha Bear said:You've been wrong every step of the way so far. I don't see that changing anytime soon. You're becoming the Alex Jones of this site.Florda_mike said:TexasScientist said:
So the 7,087 known deaths in the U.S., and 58,787 deaths around to world, as of today, and the plummet in the world financial markets, are all the result of greed for stimulus money? I'd like to hear how you reconcile that belief with reality.
Ok I agree we should shut everything down over some deaths
7000 of 350,000,000? Seriously?
What do you think about the 1,000,000+ babies murdered per year from abortion? Should we stop work over abortion?
There's others! 9 deaths on Texas highways per day! That's as many deaths each month as California has. Should we stop driving?
25,000 have died from common flu! What would you do about that?
Doesn't matter, there's tons of money chasing these corona stats now so they'll be amplified for another stimulus package
And what about the only 3 governors to outlaw Hydroxychloroquine in their state. All 3 were democrats. Why? TDS and can't let him win again?
Ok, now say this boy is cra cra but I'll be right in the end
I've been scammed before, and so this one is easy to see
Mikey isn't worth engaging with. He's likely just a troll. At first you think he's just stupid, then you slowly start to realize there's no way he's actually this stupid, this naive, and this cemented in said stupidity.