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EatMoreSalmon said:

Jacques Strap said:

Van Alstyne ISD has made the decision to only offer On-Campus instruction

Van Alstyne ISD has made the decision to only offer On-Campus instruction beginning Monday, November 2, 2020. Remote instruction will only be offered to students who are ill or on quarantine due to COVID-19. The factors which were considered in making this decision were the following:

1. Students enrolled in Remote Instruction have been mostly unsuccessful in completing and mastering the material. The failure rate for Remote Instruction is 63% compared to 7% for face to face learners. Therefore, Remote Instruction has proven to be ineffective and inappropriate for a majority of our students. The district believes that in order to limit the learning gaps that are being created, we need to have these kids on campus for instruction.

2. The rate of positive cases for Van Alstyne ISD has been relatively low thus far this year. Since the beginning of school, we have had 4 staff members, 0 elementary students, and 13 secondary students. We currently have 0 active cases. We believe that our safety protocols and the hard work of the students and staff have contributed to this trend.

Public safety and health are a high priority for the district. However, we feel that these COVID numbers, coupled with the learning gaps being created, do not justify continuing to offer Remote Instruction. Students who are currently enrolled in Remote Instruction have 3 options:

1. Return to on-campus instruction.
2. Withdraw to homeschool.
3. Withdraw and transfer to another public or private school that offers online instruction.

If you are returning to on-campus instruction, be aware that the second 9 weeks started on October 19th. Therefore, it is important that you make your decision as soon as possible. Beginning November 2, 2020, ONLY on campus instruction will be available
Lots of Texas school districts doing this for the same reasons.
I don't hear much about how cases are going in Texas schools. I did see that of the football scores reported statewide by the DMN on Monday (pretty much gets all games) there were, I believe, 24 games that had to be cancelled.
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Jacques Strap said:

Van Alstyne ISD has made the decision to only offer On-Campus instruction

Van Alstyne ISD has made the decision to only offer On-Campus instruction beginning Monday, November 2, 2020. Remote instruction will only be offered to students who are ill or on quarantine due to COVID-19. The factors which were considered in making this decision were the following:

1. Students enrolled in Remote Instruction have been mostly unsuccessful in completing and mastering the material. The failure rate for Remote Instruction is 63% compared to 7% for face to face learners. Therefore, Remote Instruction has proven to be ineffective and inappropriate for a majority of our students. The district believes that in order to limit the learning gaps that are being created, we need to have these kids on campus for instruction.

2. The rate of positive cases for Van Alstyne ISD has been relatively low thus far this year. Since the beginning of school, we have had 4 staff members, 0 elementary students, and 13 secondary students. We currently have 0 active cases. We believe that our safety protocols and the hard work of the students and staff have contributed to this trend.

Public safety and health are a high priority for the district. However, we feel that these COVID numbers, coupled with the learning gaps being created, do not justify continuing to offer Remote Instruction. Students who are currently enrolled in Remote Instruction have 3 options:

1. Return to on-campus instruction.
2. Withdraw to homeschool.
3. Withdraw and transfer to another public or private school that offers online instruction.

If you are returning to on-campus instruction, be aware that the second 9 weeks started on October 19th. Therefore, it is important that you make your decision as soon as possible. Beginning November 2, 2020, ONLY on campus instruction will be available

There are multiple school districts that are finally discovering how far behind the remote learning students are getting.
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More than one thousand people have succumbed in the last 24 hours to the third leading cause of death in America - COVID
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More Vitamin D news. Multivitamins are inexpensive, so if you are not taking one with C, D and zinc reconsider.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/10/27/Vitamin-deficiencies-linked-to-respiratory-conditions-including-COVID-19/9491603827437/


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Vitamin deficiencies linked to respiratory conditions, including COVID-19

People who consumed recommended amounts of the three key nutrients were less likely to develop the flu, colds, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and asthma, the data showed.

Research has linked vitamin D, in particular, with boosting immune system function, and being deficient in the nutrient has been found to increase a person's risk for severe COVID-19.
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Lock it down, lock it all down or we're all gonna die

I had no idea there were so many sheep in my midst

Very disappointed in so many followers
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Texasjeremy said:

Jacques Strap said:

Van Alstyne ISD has made the decision to only offer On-Campus instruction

Van Alstyne ISD has made the decision to only offer On-Campus instruction beginning Monday, November 2, 2020. Remote instruction will only be offered to students who are ill or on quarantine due to COVID-19. The factors which were considered in making this decision were the following:

1. Students enrolled in Remote Instruction have been mostly unsuccessful in completing and mastering the material. The failure rate for Remote Instruction is 63% compared to 7% for face to face learners. Therefore, Remote Instruction has proven to be ineffective and inappropriate for a majority of our students. The district believes that in order to limit the learning gaps that are being created, we need to have these kids on campus for instruction.

2. The rate of positive cases for Van Alstyne ISD has been relatively low thus far this year. Since the beginning of school, we have had 4 staff members, 0 elementary students, and 13 secondary students. We currently have 0 active cases. We believe that our safety protocols and the hard work of the students and staff have contributed to this trend.

Public safety and health are a high priority for the district. However, we feel that these COVID numbers, coupled with the learning gaps being created, do not justify continuing to offer Remote Instruction. Students who are currently enrolled in Remote Instruction have 3 options:

1. Return to on-campus instruction.
2. Withdraw to homeschool.
3. Withdraw and transfer to another public or private school that offers online instruction.

If you are returning to on-campus instruction, be aware that the second 9 weeks started on October 19th. Therefore, it is important that you make your decision as soon as possible. Beginning November 2, 2020, ONLY on campus instruction will be available

There are multiple school districts that are finally discovering how far behind the remote learning students are getting.
Same is true here in Colorado.


No easy solutions .
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It is such a chore. I didnt go to college to be a Spanish instructor for an 8th grader, that job is available and I dont want it lol.

My kid's district has offered people the option of home or in person and its about 1/2 and 1/2. They reported last week they have had 2 confirmed cases and tracing showed neither happened at school, both happened at weekend events.

If we werent co-parenting with nut jobs we would have sent him back to school already.
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Doc Holliday said:

Jack Bauer said:

Uh...oh.

"We are about to see the best economic data we've seen in the history of this country," says a top former economic adviser to Obama.

The general election scenario that Democrats are dreading

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/26/2020-election-democrats-281470
The eagerness to get out + the stimulus checks are going to give us massive and quick economic gains.

Q3 will probably give us the best GDP quarter in modern history.
Yep.

How's that for delivering on promises?

Jacques Strap
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Doc Holliday said:

Doc Holliday said:

Jack Bauer said:

Uh...oh.

"We are about to see the best economic data we've seen in the history of this country," says a top former economic adviser to Obama.

The general election scenario that Democrats are dreading

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/26/2020-election-democrats-281470
The eagerness to get out + the stimulus checks are going to give us massive and quick economic gains.

Q3 will probably give us the best GDP quarter in modern history.
Yep.

How's that for delivering on promises?


Economic growth boomed in the third quarter. Nevertheless, there is still $670bn, or 3.5%, of GDP to make up before the entire loss from the lockdown recession is recovered. To make that up in a single quarter, GDP must rise at a 15.1% at an annual rate, which is unlikely. Nevertheless, the economy could fully recover in the first half of 2021, especially if vaccines are highly effective.


Chris Low
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cinque said:

More than one thousand people have succumbed in the last 24 hours to the third leading cause of death in America - COVID
If you are a cheerleader and advocate of the Covid Panicdemic, that tells us all we need to know.
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Jacques Strap
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Even more Vitamin D news. Multivitamins are inexpensive, so if you are not taking one with C, D and zinc reconsider.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/more-than-80-per-cent-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-had-vitamin-d-deficiency-study-1.5162396


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More than 80 per cent of hospitalized COVID-19 patients had vitamin D deficiency: study

TORONTO -- More than 80 per cent of COVID-19 patients at a hospital in Spain had a vitamin D deficiency, according to a new study.

Researchers at the University Hospital Marques de Valdecilla in Santander, Spain looked at the vitamin D levels of 216 patients admitted to hospital for coronavirus treatment between March 10 and March 31.

For the study, the 216 hospitalized patients' vitamin D levels were compared to those of a control group of 197 people of similar age and sex from a population-based cohort in the same geographical area.



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Jacques Strap said:

Even more Vitamin D news. Multivitamins are inexpensive, so if you are not taking one with C, D and zinc reconsider.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/more-than-80-per-cent-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-had-vitamin-d-deficiency-study-1.5162396


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More than 80 per cent of hospitalized COVID-19 patients had vitamin D deficiency: study

TORONTO -- More than 80 per cent of COVID-19 patients at a hospital in Spain had a vitamin D deficiency, according to a new study.

Researchers at the University Hospital Marques de Valdecilla in Santander, Spain looked at the vitamin D levels of 216 patients admitted to hospital for coronavirus treatment between March 10 and March 31.

For the study, the 216 hospitalized patients' vitamin D levels were compared to those of a control group of 197 people of similar age and sex from a population-based cohort in the same geographical area.




Close to half the people in the US are D deficient.
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TexasScientist said:

Jacques Strap said:

Even more Vitamin D news. Multivitamins are inexpensive, so if you are not taking one with C, D and zinc reconsider.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/more-than-80-per-cent-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-had-vitamin-d-deficiency-study-1.5162396


Quote:

More than 80 per cent of hospitalized COVID-19 patients had vitamin D deficiency: study

TORONTO -- More than 80 per cent of COVID-19 patients at a hospital in Spain had a vitamin D deficiency, according to a new study.

Researchers at the University Hospital Marques de Valdecilla in Santander, Spain looked at the vitamin D levels of 216 patients admitted to hospital for coronavirus treatment between March 10 and March 31.

For the study, the 216 hospitalized patients' vitamin D levels were compared to those of a control group of 197 people of similar age and sex from a population-based cohort in the same geographical area.




Close to half the people in the US are D deficient.
Fortunately, my doctor started my wife and myself on supplements back last year. Different reason but still glad to get the additional value.
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blackie
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Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.
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blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
Jacques Strap
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D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
In addition to that people may be looking at the CDC IFR, doing a risk assessment, and acting accordingly
0-19 years: 0.00003
20-49 years: 0.0002
50-69 years: 0.005
70+ years: 0.054
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D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
It does in the countries that do what is necessary.
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D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.


Let's try and see.
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Doc Holliday said:


Probably because they've read the models, unlike Eddie.
D. C. Bear
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quash said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.


Let's try and see.


I wash my hands frequently, social distance as much as possible and wear a mask in public, but a lot of people I know who are doing the same things as I am are also catching the virus.
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TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
It does in the countries that do what is necessary.


Many other countries previously cited as ones that "do what is necessary" are experiencing increased numbers of COVID cases.
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D. C. Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
It does in the countries that do what is necessary.


Many other countries previously cited as ones that "do what is necessary" are experiencing increased numbers of COVID cases.
I don't think so. Not in New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, or China. Even Canada is doing better than the US.
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TexasScientist
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D. C. Bear said:

quash said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.


Let's try and see.


I wash my hands frequently, social distance as much as possible and wear a mask in public, but a lot of people I know who are doing the same things as I am are also catching the virus.
Maybe they are, and maybe not. It's kept you from it so far.
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TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
It does in the countries that do what is necessary.


Many other countries previously cited as ones that "do what is necessary" are experiencing increased numbers of COVID cases.
I don't think so. Not in New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, or China. Even Canada is doing better than the US.
I wonder what the ratio of people travelling to Canada every year is in comparison to the US. I bet it's not even remotely similar.
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TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
It does in the countries that do what is necessary.


Many other countries previously cited as ones that "do what is necessary" are experiencing increased numbers of COVID cases.
I don't think so. Not in New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, or China. Even Canada is doing better than the US.


Back in the day, people cited any number of European countries that are now seeing rising cases as examples of how to beat the virus.

How COVID impacts different populations is complicated and populations in various countries are unlikely to be equally susceptible to dying from this virus for any number of reasons. Those who want, for political reasons, to latch on to single and simple explanations are going to do exactly what you have done.
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TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

quash said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.


Let's try and see.


I wash my hands frequently, social distance as much as possible and wear a mask in public, but a lot of people I know who are doing the same things as I am are also catching the virus.
Maybe they are, and maybe not. It's kept you from it so far.


Maybe it has, maybe I have already had it and didn't know it, maybe I can't get it, or maybe I have just been lucky. There is no real reason for me to think my actions have been responsible for me not getting the virus so far or that they will protect me from it going forward.
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D. C. Bear said:

quash said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.


Let's try and see.


I wash my hands frequently, social distance as much as possible and wear a mask in public, but a lot of people I know who are doing the same things as I am are also catching the virus.

Because others are not. Let's try and see.
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D. C. Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
It does in the countries that do what is necessary.


Many other countries previously cited as ones that "do what is necessary" are experiencing increased numbers of COVID cases.
I don't think so. Not in New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, or China. Even Canada is doing better than the US.


Back in the day, people cited any number of European countries that are now seeing rising cases as examples of how to beat the virus.

How COVID impacts different populations is complicated and populations in various countries are unlikely to be equally susceptible to dying from this virus for any number of reasons. Those who want, for political reasons, to latch on to single and simple explanations are going to do exactly what you have done.
People are not complying in those countries and they're geting an increase. The virus is spread the same way around the world. What is it specifically that you think Taiwan or South Korea or New Zealland are doing that we cannot do here?
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As the Trump bunch insists it's turning a corner on controlling COVID, today the US recorded its highest number of cases in a single day; 98,500
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cinque said:

As the Trump bunch insists it's turning a corner on controlling COVID, today the US recorded its highest number of cases in a single day; 98,500


You will get your wish. This election will show how strong or weak our country is. One side is banking on fear getting to the finish line. I am hopeful that is not today's America.
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TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

TexasScientist said:

D. C. Bear said:

blackie said:

Doc Holliday said:


Perhaps as the Reps feel in their states after Trump telling us it would go away in a few weeks and how we have turned the corner.

The problem is that people refuse to do the things that will reduce the resurgence.


Or maybe the things people do to reduce the resurgence don't reduce the resurgence.
It does in the countries that do what is necessary.


Many other countries previously cited as ones that "do what is necessary" are experiencing increased numbers of COVID cases.
I don't think so. Not in New Zealand, Australia, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, or China. Even Canada is doing better than the US.


Back in the day, people cited any number of European countries that are now seeing rising cases as examples of how to beat the virus.

How COVID impacts different populations is complicated and populations in various countries are unlikely to be equally susceptible to dying from this virus for any number of reasons. Those who want, for political reasons, to latch on to single and simple explanations are going to do exactly what you have done.
People are not complying in those countries and they're geting an increase. The virus is spread the same way around the world. What is it specifically that you think Taiwan or South Korea or New Zealland are doing that we cannot do here?


Go educate yourself about what Taiwan has done and you will be able to answer that question for yourself.
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The elephant no one wants to face is that the virus has aerosolized, and the micron size is significantly smaller than even what an N95 mask guarantees to prevent penetration 95% of the time. It's also likely hanging in air currents and seems to even resist quick death by sunlight as originally hoped for. This is on top of its surface survivability which is amazingly resilient. The way we mask in mass isn't going to help us, especially when so many wear the equivalent of a dishrag for air absorption like bandanas and gaiters and homemade cloth ones.

Prevention is failing outside of sanitizing and isolation, and even isolation depends upon how you do it. So the strategy has to shift to immune boosting and body defense preparation. We can hold off on the praising, no one is out of the woods and the journey is still far.
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I think geography has to also be looked at for those nations "doing well". Mostly islands and/or isolated peninsulas (South Korea). Makes people containment and flow restriction easier, not to mention the liquid buffer zones for air current transfer.
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loanbear said:

cinque said:

As the Trump bunch insists it's turning a corner on controlling COVID, today the US recorded its highest number of cases in a single day; 98,500


You will get your wish. This election will show how strong or weak our country is. One side is banking on fear getting to the finish line. I am hopeful that is not today's America.
LMAO. Trump is a purveyor of fear at every rally he holds.
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