2020 ELECTION FRAUD THREAD
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Spent a week in Phoenix in August once trying a case in Federal Court there. Everyday had to walk across a big parking lot lugging our trial gear in a dark blue suit. Was soaked by the time I got to the courtroom. Don't know how they do it.nein51 said:
Maybe but Arizona has this looney independent bloc of voters. Wouldn't be shocked if the votes for Jorgensen were higher in AZ than most places. They have some odd ducks in that state. I assume it's the heat that causes it. Lol
I hated it. Until we returned for the Fiesta Bowl. While the game sucked, that week was 75 degrees, with no humidity or wind every day. January, not August for Arizona.
Who know how it will turn out, but it illustrates the tightrope, POTUS is on tonight. He loses here and in one of the apportioned CDs and Fla and Pa might not matter.
I mentioned this a feew days ago- we may be on the verge of something very few anticipated in VA. Every single urban centre including NOVA is lagging 16. Turnout in VA beach is up and so is Chesterfield and trump won both in 16.
Booray said:Spent a week in Phoenix in August once trying a case in Federal Court there. Everyday had to walk across a big parking lot lugging our trial gear in a dark blue suit. Was soaked by the time I got to the courtroom. Don't know how they do it.nein51 said:
Maybe but Arizona has this looney independent bloc of voters. Wouldn't be shocked if the votes for Jorgensen were higher in AZ than most places. They have some odd ducks in that state. I assume it's the heat that causes it. Lol
I hated it. Until we returned for the Fiesta Bowl. While the game sucked, that week was 75 degrees, with no humidity or wind every day. January, not August for Arizona.
Who know how it will turn out, but it illustrates the tightrope, POTUS is on tonight. He loses here and ine of the apportioned CDs and Fla and Pa might not matter.
I lived in Riyadh for a handful of years. I recall a poolside thermometer that read 142 in the shade. Things that melted in the car; CD, Cassette Tape (yes I'm that old), ink pen. In truth you just don't spend much time outside from like 10am until 8-9pm. Then, to add to the crazy, the temps could drop 40-50 degrees making 90 feel cool. I would take 142 in Riyadh over 95 in Houston though. Man I hate humidity.
Never go to Bangkok. You get 104-106 temps and 90%+ humidity.nein51 said:Booray said:Spent a week in Phoenix in August once trying a case in Federal Court there. Everyday had to walk across a big parking lot lugging our trial gear in a dark blue suit. Was soaked by the time I got to the courtroom. Don't know how they do it.nein51 said:
Maybe but Arizona has this looney independent bloc of voters. Wouldn't be shocked if the votes for Jorgensen were higher in AZ than most places. They have some odd ducks in that state. I assume it's the heat that causes it. Lol
I hated it. Until we returned for the Fiesta Bowl. While the game sucked, that week was 75 degrees, with no humidity or wind every day. January, not August for Arizona.
Who know how it will turn out, but it illustrates the tightrope, POTUS is on tonight. He loses here and ine of the apportioned CDs and Fla and Pa might not matter.
I lived in Riyadh for a handful of years. I recall a poolside thermometer that read 142 in the shade. Things that melted in the car; CD, Cassette Tape (yes I'm that old), ink pen. In truth you just don't spend much time outside from like 10am until 8-9pm. Then, to add to the crazy, the temps could drop 40-50 degrees making 90 feel cool. I would take 142 in Riyadh over 95 in Houston though. Man I hate humidity.
One night in Bangkok and the world's your oysterwhitetrash said:Never go to Bangkok. You get 104-106 temps and 90%+ humidity.nein51 said:Booray said:Spent a week in Phoenix in August once trying a case in Federal Court there. Everyday had to walk across a big parking lot lugging our trial gear in a dark blue suit. Was soaked by the time I got to the courtroom. Don't know how they do it.nein51 said:
Maybe but Arizona has this looney independent bloc of voters. Wouldn't be shocked if the votes for Jorgensen were higher in AZ than most places. They have some odd ducks in that state. I assume it's the heat that causes it. Lol
I hated it. Until we returned for the Fiesta Bowl. While the game sucked, that week was 75 degrees, with no humidity or wind every day. January, not August for Arizona.
Who know how it will turn out, but it illustrates the tightrope, POTUS is on tonight. He loses here and ine of the apportioned CDs and Fla and Pa might not matter.
I lived in Riyadh for a handful of years. I recall a poolside thermometer that read 142 in the shade. Things that melted in the car; CD, Cassette Tape (yes I'm that old), ink pen. In truth you just don't spend much time outside from like 10am until 8-9pm. Then, to add to the crazy, the temps could drop 40-50 degrees making 90 feel cool. I would take 142 in Riyadh over 95 in Houston though. Man I hate humidity.
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I think Trump will win Florida by at least 2.5 points. Double the win margin that he had in 2016Booray said:From this: https://electionsmith.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/floridas-2016-general-election-turnout-by-party-raceethnicity-by-method-of-vote/BU99 said:Booray said:BU99 said:
What did Florida end up plus R in 2016?
Anyone hear anything on where Pa stands, that is the game changer.
Trump won by 113,000 votes
I was asking about the registered party votes versus actual votes. We will have off party voters and you have the large independent number. Just curious where we're at based on party affiliation before you take into account those two variables.
It looks like; (1) the GOP had about a 67,500 vote share lead over the Dems and (2) the non-affiliated voters were 20% versus the about 24% this year.
Looks like a pretty close Trump win in Florida based on that alone, but would have to understand what impacts "defections" and the independent voter split will have.
Hearing a lot of rumbling in Minnesota, could go red this year... even Reagan couldnt do that
Why? It looks like that may be his raw vote advantage. Most models would have a R +2.5 as pretty close to a toss-up.Rawhide said:I think Trump will win Florida by at least 2.5 points. Double the win margin that he had in 2016Booray said:From this: https://electionsmith.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/floridas-2016-general-election-turnout-by-party-raceethnicity-by-method-of-vote/BU99 said:Booray said:BU99 said:
What did Florida end up plus R in 2016?
Anyone hear anything on where Pa stands, that is the game changer.
Trump won by 113,000 votes
I was asking about the registered party votes versus actual votes. We will have off party voters and you have the large independent number. Just curious where we're at based on party affiliation before you take into account those two variables.
It looks like; (1) the GOP had about a 67,500 vote share lead over the Dems and (2) the non-affiliated voters were 20% versus the about 24% this year.
Looks like a pretty close Trump win in Florida based on that alone, but would have to understand what impacts "defections" and the independent voter split will have.
Gruvin said:
Hearing a lot of rumbling in Minnesota, could go red this year... even Reagan couldnt do that
Lots of unintended campaigning for Republicans by the state's democratic office holders this year.
At least six 2016 pro Trump counties in Wisconsin have had to print more ballots
Gruvin said:
Hearing a lot of rumbling in Minnesota, could go red this year... even Reagan couldnt do that
That would be stunning. Wont believe that until it happens.
Just a reminder that some states tabulate and report absentee and mail in votes first so again it's not over til it's over
Booray said:
On the flip side, the GOP ballot advantage in Arizona appears to have shrunk quite a bit (From 186k to 50k in 2020 with 5 hours to go). Given the non-party affiliated and cross-over numbers, it looks like Biden may be in decent shape in Arizona, although very competitive.
I might just be paying more attention, but I'm seeing a lot of enthusiasm from Latinos for Trump in Phoenix this election. It's anecdotal, but most of my (voting) Latino friends feel that conservative values are more in line with their culture and Trump is in their best interest. I hear this even from non-voting/illegal friends too.
Once immigration reform happens, I don't see the Latino vote staying with the dems here.
Some of the more vocal Dems in the media are lamenting on why the person with the popular vote doesn't win the presidency Isn't it a little early for this? Unless they know something
The Dems havent understood the Constitution for awhile now.
It's unfortunate that the rules of the election were changed at the last second and they didn't have time to change their strategy to account for the Electoral College.Gruvin said:
Some of the more vocal Dems in the media are lamenting on why the person with the popular vote doesn't win the presidency Isn't it a little early for this? Unless they know something
No kidding. That electoral college thing just sneaks up on you.DioNoZeus said:It's unfortunate that the rules of the election were changed at the last second and they didn't have time to change their strategy to account for the Electoral College.Gruvin said:
Some of the more vocal Dems in the media are lamenting on why the person with the popular vote doesn't win the presidency Isn't it a little early for this? Unless they know something
It's like when the Cowboys were playing the Eagles last week, and all of a sudden at the end of the game they told us that field goals were worth less than touchdowns. What the hell.
PredictIt has flipped from Trump to Biden in AZ and NC. That would sink Trump. I don't see him losing those and winning MN, VA, NM, etc.
That's 26 EVs.
That's 26 EVs.
AZ_Bear said:Booray said:
On the flip side, the GOP ballot advantage in Arizona appears to have shrunk quite a bit (From 186k to 50k in 2020 with 5 hours to go). Given the non-party affiliated and cross-over numbers, it looks like Biden may be in decent shape in Arizona, although very competitive.
I might just be paying more attention, but I'm seeing a lot of enthusiasm from Latinos for Trump in Phoenix this election. It's anecdotal, but most of my (voting) Latino friends feel that conservative values are more in line with their culture and Trump is in their best interest. I hear this even from non-voting/illegal friends too.
Once immigration reform happens, I don't see the Latino vote staying with the dems here.
Which is why McCain could never understand his party blocking immigration reform
source who says early exit polls are "disturbing, particularly voters being less concerned about COVID than expected. Says Florida numbers not looking great for Biden
In some Rust Belt states rural turnout seems to be down a few %. Good for Biden and bad for Trump.
AZ_Bear said:Booray said:
On the flip side, the GOP ballot advantage in Arizona appears to have shrunk quite a bit (From 186k to 50k in 2020 with 5 hours to go). Given the non-party affiliated and cross-over numbers, it looks like Biden may be in decent shape in Arizona, although very competitive.
I might just be paying more attention, but I'm seeing a lot of enthusiasm from Latinos for Trump in Phoenix this election. It's anecdotal, but most of my (voting) Latino friends feel that conservative values are more in line with their culture and Trump is in their best interest. I hear this even from non-voting/illegal friends too.
Once immigration reform happens, I don't see the Latino vote staying with the dems here.
That is very much along the lines of many long-term Texas Latinos, and surprisingly more recent ones as well that I know.
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midgett said:
PredictIt has flipped from Trump to Biden in AZ and NC. That would sink Trump. I don't see him losing those and winning MN, VA, NM, etc.
That's 26 EVs.
Where are you seeing this? If Pa is included then game is probably over.
People moving money on betting lines, not a real relationship to what's happening with votes.BU99 said:midgett said:
PredictIt has flipped from Trump to Biden in AZ and NC. That would sink Trump. I don't see him losing those and winning MN, VA, NM, etc.
That's 26 EVs.
Where are you seeing this? If Pa is included then game is probably over.
Gruvin said:People moving money on betting lines, not a real relationship to what's happening with votes.BU99 said:midgett said:
PredictIt has flipped from Trump to Biden in AZ and NC. That would sink Trump. I don't see him losing those and winning MN, VA, NM, etc.
That's 26 EVs.
Where are you seeing this? If Pa is included then game is probably over.
I quoted the wrong post, was referring to the rural vote being down a few percentage points.
FL now at 212k +GOP ballots
Just heard from one of PA's top strategists. "There's been 2 hour lines everywhere in North Bucks all day. It's like a Trump rally."
AZ about +100k GOP ballots
Just heard from one of PA's top strategists. "There's been 2 hour lines everywhere in North Bucks all day. It's like a Trump rally."
AZ about +100k GOP ballots