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wuzzybear said:

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. If we have anything left at all it is our dignity and we are not going to have that taken away.

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You sailed that ship.

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Please elaborate!

You should read more, think more carefully, and post less often.

This is the basic problem: This country is so divided although my instincts tell me that if Trump is declared the winner and does retain the office that the years following will be much more of the America we are used to and can work with from many viewpoints such as America first, low unemployment, higher workforce anticipation, states rights, keeping abortion on a tight leash, fighting for Israel and on and on as this is nothing any of you don't know. Biden and his minions are such a wild card because the war going on within their own party for moderates vs. radicals will be brutal.

However, a Trump win will bring every left loon out to burn, pillage, and loot the entire country which of course will not be tolerated and then if the National Guard doesn't work we are looking at military intervention and that won't be or look good for anybody.

So either way it's gonna be a hellish situation. So if we are going to have a hellish situation I'd rather have Trump in the WH than Biden who would not even be able to articulate his position or actions leaving a void that who knows how it will be filled. It's the same ole swamp. Really w/o Trump at the helm the Senate is the last stand which no matter what MUST happen.

Flipped maybe as many as 13 house seats for R's which is nice but not a majority. So the war no matter what is going to continue. Does this weaken the country well probably, but give me weak democratic Republic vs. a hellbent for leather assault on the Constitution any day of the week.

Am exhausted from thinking how this will play out. If there is one thing that is 100% guaranteed Trump is NEVER going to give up, concede, stop clamoring about the election fraud and there will be a million assassination plots against him not bc he is Trump, but bc he represents everything globalists hate which is sad it has come to that. We do have a really solid young Republican unit coming in and R's likely take back the House in 2022. So divided govt is OK by me, but Trump needs to be the head of the party and I know he will be because he didn't get 80+million votes for nothing. Love him or hate him he is a game changer.

The one caveat is that if we don't get the election process fixed and go back to one day, one vote this is going to repeat. There are just too many ways to cheat in this modern age of technology. We can't give up and we can't run away from the fight. But all of you should have a backup plan no matter what.

Keep praying, keeping looking to Jesus for he has the final say in all this. Honestly w/o Christ I don't know how anybody maintains any semblance of sanity.

wuzzybear said:

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This is the basic problem: This country is so divided although my instincts tell me that if Trump is declared the winner and does retain the office that the years following will be much more of the America we are used to and can work with from many viewpoints such as America first, low unemployment, higher workforce anticipation, states rights, keeping abortion on a tight leash, fighting for Israel and on and on as this is nothing any of you don't know. Biden and his minions are such a wild card because the war going on within their own party for moderates vs. radicals will be brutal.

However, a Trump win will bring every left loon out to burn, pillage, and loot the entire country which of course will not be tolerated and then if the National Guard doesn't work we are looking at military intervention and that won't be or look good for anybody.

So either way it's gonna be a hellish situation. So if we are going to have a hellish situation I'd rather have Trump in the WH than Biden who would not even be able to articulate his position or actions leaving a void that who knows how it will be filled. It's the same ole swamp. Really w/o Trump at the helm the Senate is the last stand which no matter what MUST happen.

Flipped maybe as many as 13 house seats for R's which is nice but not a majority. So the war no matter what is going to continue. Does this weaken the country well probably, but give me weak democratic Republic vs. a hellbent for leather assault on the Constitution any day of the week.

Am exhausted from thinking how this will play out. If there is one thing that is 100% guaranteed Trump is NEVER going to give up, concede, stop clamoring about the election fraud and there will be a million assassination plots against him not bc he is Trump, but bc he represents everything globalists hate which is sad it has come to that. We do have a really solid young Republican unit coming in and R's likely take back the House in 2022. So divided govt is OK by me, but Trump needs to be the head of the party and I know he will be because he didn't get 80+million votes for nothing. Love him or hate him he is a game changer.

The one caveat is that if we don't get the election process fixed and go back to one day, one vote this is going to repeat. There are just too many ways to cheat in this modern age of technology. We can't give up and we can't run away from the fight. But all of you should have a backup plan no matter what.

Keep praying, keeping looking to Jesus for he has the final say in all this. Honestly w/o Christ I don't know how anybody maintains any semblance of sanity.

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One of your issues is your adoration of Trump is creeping ever closer to your adoration of Christ, which is sad. No wonder you're so damn tired.

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So I would propose that us Socialist States stop providing Social Security and Medicare to the Republic states, cause after all, they don't want any of that socialism stuff. :-)

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No problem with that, plus we can stop paying into it and invest our own money our own way.

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wuzzybear said:

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This is the basic problem: This country is so divided although my instincts tell me that if Trump is declared the winner and does retain the office that the years following will be much more of the America we are used to and can work with from many viewpoints such as America first, low unemployment, higher workforce anticipation, states rights, keeping abortion on a tight leash, fighting for Israel and on and on as this is nothing any of you don't know. Biden and his minions are such a wild card because the war going on within their own party for moderates vs. radicals will be brutal.

However, a Trump win will bring every left loon out to burn, pillage, and loot the entire country which of course will not be tolerated and then if the National Guard doesn't work we are looking at military intervention and that won't be or look good for anybody.

So either way it's gonna be a hellish situation. So if we are going to have a hellish situation I'd rather have Trump in the WH than Biden who would not even be able to articulate his position or actions leaving a void that who knows how it will be filled. It's the same ole swamp. Really w/o Trump at the helm the Senate is the last stand which no matter what MUST happen.

Flipped maybe as many as 13 house seats for R's which is nice but not a majority. So the war no matter what is going to continue. Does this weaken the country well probably, but give me weak democratic Republic vs. a hellbent for leather assault on the Constitution any day of the week.

Am exhausted from thinking how this will play out. If there is one thing that is 100% guaranteed Trump is NEVER going to give up, concede, stop clamoring about the election fraud and there will be a million assassination plots against him not bc he is Trump, but bc he represents everything globalists hate which is sad it has come to that. We do have a really solid young Republican unit coming in and R's likely take back the House in 2022. So divided govt is OK by me, but Trump needs to be the head of the party and I know he will be because he didn't get 80+million votes for nothing. Love him or hate him he is a game changer.

The one caveat is that if we don't get the election process fixed and go back to one day, one vote this is going to repeat. There are just too many ways to cheat in this modern age of technology. We can't give up and we can't run away from the fight. But all of you should have a backup plan no matter what.

Keep praying, keeping looking to Jesus for he has the final say in all this. Honestly w/o Christ I don't know how anybody maintains any semblance of sanity.

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One of your issues is your adoration of Trump is creeping ever closer to your adoration of Christ, which is sad. No wonder you're so damn tired.

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This post highlights the dishonesty of the Left. Support for Trump does not mean worship of him, that is just one more lie from the Left. I could congratulate a clean win by a Democrat but this election reeks of dirty tricks by Democrats. The strange thing is that they seem to think that no one sees what they did, that getting the office is all that matters and nothing will come back to bite them.

They have no idea what they started.

Oldbear83 said:

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trey3216 said:

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wuzzybear said:

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This is the basic problem: This country is so divided although my instincts tell me that if Trump is declared the winner and does retain the office that the years following will be much more of the America we are used to and can work with from many viewpoints such as America first, low unemployment, higher workforce anticipation, states rights, keeping abortion on a tight leash, fighting for Israel and on and on as this is nothing any of you don't know. Biden and his minions are such a wild card because the war going on within their own party for moderates vs. radicals will be brutal.

However, a Trump win will bring every left loon out to burn, pillage, and loot the entire country which of course will not be tolerated and then if the National Guard doesn't work we are looking at military intervention and that won't be or look good for anybody.

So either way it's gonna be a hellish situation. So if we are going to have a hellish situation I'd rather have Trump in the WH than Biden who would not even be able to articulate his position or actions leaving a void that who knows how it will be filled. It's the same ole swamp. Really w/o Trump at the helm the Senate is the last stand which no matter what MUST happen.

Flipped maybe as many as 13 house seats for R's which is nice but not a majority. So the war no matter what is going to continue. Does this weaken the country well probably, but give me weak democratic Republic vs. a hellbent for leather assault on the Constitution any day of the week.

Am exhausted from thinking how this will play out. If there is one thing that is 100% guaranteed Trump is NEVER going to give up, concede, stop clamoring about the election fraud and there will be a million assassination plots against him not bc he is Trump, but bc he represents everything globalists hate which is sad it has come to that. We do have a really solid young Republican unit coming in and R's likely take back the House in 2022. So divided govt is OK by me, but Trump needs to be the head of the party and I know he will be because he didn't get 80+million votes for nothing. Love him or hate him he is a game changer.

The one caveat is that if we don't get the election process fixed and go back to one day, one vote this is going to repeat. There are just too many ways to cheat in this modern age of technology. We can't give up and we can't run away from the fight. But all of you should have a backup plan no matter what.

Keep praying, keeping looking to Jesus for he has the final say in all this. Honestly w/o Christ I don't know how anybody maintains any semblance of sanity.

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One of your issues is your adoration of Trump is creeping ever closer to your adoration of Christ, which is sad. No wonder you're so damn tired.

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This post highlights the dishonesty of the Left. Support for Trump does not mean worship of him, that is just one more lie from the Left. I could congratulate a clean win by a Democrat but this election reeks of dirty tricks by Democrats. The strange thing is that they seem to think that no one sees what they did, that getting the office is all that matters and nothing will come back to bite them.

They have no idea what they started.

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I can't stand the left either

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Oldbear83 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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If the dishonesty and cheating happens again, it may be settled in another manner.

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It can't happen again until is proved that it happened at all.

And enough of these civil war fantasies, you and your ilk are not going to rise up off your couches

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We will see what the courts decide. I fully expect a, "yes, there was big time fraud but the election stands.". When that happens, don't expect too many of those of us that love our country to remain on our couches.

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If the courts find 'big time fraud' they'll render a judgement if there is enough to overturn an election. They never overturn an election unless there is enough fraudulent activity to affect the outcome.

Those who are on their couches have a unique claim of love for country. What exactly are you going to do if you get up off of your couches?

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No Justice. No Peace!!!!

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What do you consider justice. A Trump victory?

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A fair election.

Tens if not hundreds of thousands of votes cast only picking Biden and not selecting any other races in swing states. All time record voter turnout for a Presidential race yet the Democrats LOST seats in the House? Why did dead people only vote for Joe Biden? You seem like a smart guy. Connect the dots.

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People really dislike Trump? Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best.

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Anything to ignore a truth you don't like, I see.

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What truth? Declarative sentences, please

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Trump collected 70 million votes this year. That is not evidence of wide dislike of the incumbent.

Also, there is strong evidence of fraud by Democrats this year. That would not be the case if it were simply dislike of Trump

Sometimes the boldest lie is the Democrat plan.

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Where is the strong evidence? So far there isn't any, unless you consider Trump's strong assertions as evidence.

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You are either blissfully unaware of the thread where much of the evidence, including dozens of sworn affidavits from witnesses, none of them Trump by the way, are filed with courts in five states, or you are in bitter denial.

Either way, I will let you find out in time on your own. You'd never believe proof posted here.

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Those courts in five states didn't think much of your 'evidence' and 'proof' did they? I guess the judges were in bitter denial, huh? You need to learn what makes good evidence and proof.

You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Oldbear83 said:

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

wuzzybear said:

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This is the basic problem: This country is so divided although my instincts tell me that if Trump is declared the winner and does retain the office that the years following will be much more of the America we are used to and can work with from many viewpoints such as America first, low unemployment, higher workforce anticipation, states rights, keeping abortion on a tight leash, fighting for Israel and on and on as this is nothing any of you don't know. Biden and his minions are such a wild card because the war going on within their own party for moderates vs. radicals will be brutal.

However, a Trump win will bring every left loon out to burn, pillage, and loot the entire country which of course will not be tolerated and then if the National Guard doesn't work we are looking at military intervention and that won't be or look good for anybody.

So either way it's gonna be a hellish situation. So if we are going to have a hellish situation I'd rather have Trump in the WH than Biden who would not even be able to articulate his position or actions leaving a void that who knows how it will be filled. It's the same ole swamp. Really w/o Trump at the helm the Senate is the last stand which no matter what MUST happen.

Flipped maybe as many as 13 house seats for R's which is nice but not a majority. So the war no matter what is going to continue. Does this weaken the country well probably, but give me weak democratic Republic vs. a hellbent for leather assault on the Constitution any day of the week.

Am exhausted from thinking how this will play out. If there is one thing that is 100% guaranteed Trump is NEVER going to give up, concede, stop clamoring about the election fraud and there will be a million assassination plots against him not bc he is Trump, but bc he represents everything globalists hate which is sad it has come to that. We do have a really solid young Republican unit coming in and R's likely take back the House in 2022. So divided govt is OK by me, but Trump needs to be the head of the party and I know he will be because he didn't get 80+million votes for nothing. Love him or hate him he is a game changer.

The one caveat is that if we don't get the election process fixed and go back to one day, one vote this is going to repeat. There are just too many ways to cheat in this modern age of technology. We can't give up and we can't run away from the fight. But all of you should have a backup plan no matter what.

Keep praying, keeping looking to Jesus for he has the final say in all this. Honestly w/o Christ I don't know how anybody maintains any semblance of sanity.

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You can't claim to be a serious human being and think Trump had this election stolen.

He lost. He lost BY A LOT. It wasn't a particularly close election. He LOST GEORGIA. It wasn't stolen. The serious people in his administration are saying that, not only was it not close and that there is no evidence of meaningful fraud, but also that this was the MOST transparent and most successful and clean election we've had in quite some time.

We should actually be celebrating the fact that the world's oldest and most successful democracy found a way to stay a democracy even in the middle of a pandemic.

But some of y'all would rather believe obvious lies.

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BikerBear said:

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So I would propose that us Socialist States stop providing Social Security and Medicare to the Republic states, cause after all, they don't want any of that socialism stuff. :-)

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No problem with that, plus we can stop paying into it and invest our own money our own way.

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That won't work out for you.

Oldbear83 said:

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trey3216 said:

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wuzzybear said:

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This is the basic problem: This country is so divided although my instincts tell me that if Trump is declared the winner and does retain the office that the years following will be much more of the America we are used to and can work with from many viewpoints such as America first, low unemployment, higher workforce anticipation, states rights, keeping abortion on a tight leash, fighting for Israel and on and on as this is nothing any of you don't know. Biden and his minions are such a wild card because the war going on within their own party for moderates vs. radicals will be brutal.

However, a Trump win will bring every left loon out to burn, pillage, and loot the entire country which of course will not be tolerated and then if the National Guard doesn't work we are looking at military intervention and that won't be or look good for anybody.

So either way it's gonna be a hellish situation. So if we are going to have a hellish situation I'd rather have Trump in the WH than Biden who would not even be able to articulate his position or actions leaving a void that who knows how it will be filled. It's the same ole swamp. Really w/o Trump at the helm the Senate is the last stand which no matter what MUST happen.

Flipped maybe as many as 13 house seats for R's which is nice but not a majority. So the war no matter what is going to continue. Does this weaken the country well probably, but give me weak democratic Republic vs. a hellbent for leather assault on the Constitution any day of the week.

Am exhausted from thinking how this will play out. If there is one thing that is 100% guaranteed Trump is NEVER going to give up, concede, stop clamoring about the election fraud and there will be a million assassination plots against him not bc he is Trump, but bc he represents everything globalists hate which is sad it has come to that. We do have a really solid young Republican unit coming in and R's likely take back the House in 2022. So divided govt is OK by me, but Trump needs to be the head of the party and I know he will be because he didn't get 80+million votes for nothing. Love him or hate him he is a game changer.

The one caveat is that if we don't get the election process fixed and go back to one day, one vote this is going to repeat. There are just too many ways to cheat in this modern age of technology. We can't give up and we can't run away from the fight. But all of you should have a backup plan no matter what.

Keep praying, keeping looking to Jesus for he has the final say in all this. Honestly w/o Christ I don't know how anybody maintains any semblance of sanity.

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One of your issues is your adoration of Trump is creeping ever closer to your adoration of Christ, which is sad. No wonder you're so damn tired.

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This post highlights the dishonesty of the Left. Support for Trump does not mean worship of him, that is just one more lie from the Left. I could congratulate a clean win by a Democrat but this election reeks of dirty tricks by Democrats. The strange thing is that they seem to think that no one sees what they did, that getting the office is all that matters and nothing will come back to bite them.

They have no idea what they started.

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Oh God... you're one of those...

Nevermind. Just wait for the next Q-drop. You're clearly beyond help.

You voted for an old white war hawk with a Goldman Sachs cabinet and you think you're the resistance LMAO

Doc Holliday said:

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You voted for an old white war hawk with a Goldman Sachs cabinet and you think you're the resistance LMAO

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LMAO. Please. You think Michael Flynn is innocent of a crime he pled guilty to. You also swore his case was going to be dismissed. You also think he was set up by Obama, who was so out to get Trump that he warned him NOT to hire Flynn... and then set him up by making Flynn break the Logan Act and then lie about it...

Logic isn't your thing. You traffic in far-right conspiracy theories and you think you have special insight others don't.

You shouldn't and you don't. Sit this one out, Tiger.

"Old warhawk." Jesus. Trump's over here trying to start a war with Iran on his way out the door and you're complaining about Biden? The guy who was consistently AGAINST intervention for 8 years in the Obama White House? Come on.

BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You voted for an old white war hawk with a Goldman Sachs cabinet and you think you're the resistance LMAO

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LMAO. Please. You think Michael Flynn is innocent of a crime he pled guilty to. You also swore his case was going to be dismissed. You also think he was set up by Obama, who was so out to get Trump that he warned him NOT to hire Flynn... and then set him up by making Flynn break the Logan Act and then lie about it...

Logic isn't your thing. You traffic in far-right conspiracy theories and you think you have special insight others don't.

You shouldn't and you don't. Sit this one out, Tiger.

"Old warhawk." Jesus. Trump's over here trying to start a war with Iran on his way out the door and you're complaining about Biden? The guy who was consistently AGAINST intervention for 8 years in the Obama White House? Come on.

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His case was dismissed...the judge refused to comply with the DOJ. Way to embarrass yourself.

IG Horowitz outlined such massive abuse that the FISA court itself said it can no longer trust the FBI. I'm certain you don't believe me despite it being written in a DOJ report.

I don't traffic far right conspiracy theories whatsoever. In fact, I think Qanon is on the of dumbest movements in US history.

Obama spent almost as much as Bush on war. He dropped more bombs than any president before him and created more chaos and violence in the middle east. So if you want to return to how Obama handled war...you are a war hawk. Period.

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You voted for an old white war hawk with a Goldman Sachs cabinet and you think you're the resistance LMAO

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LMAO. Please. You think Michael Flynn is innocent of a crime he pled guilty to. You also swore his case was going to be dismissed. You also think he was set up by Obama, who was so out to get Trump that he warned him NOT to hire Flynn... and then set him up by making Flynn break the Logan Act and then lie about it...

Logic isn't your thing. You traffic in far-right conspiracy theories and you think you have special insight others don't.

You shouldn't and you don't. Sit this one out, Tiger.

"Old warhawk." Jesus. Trump's over here trying to start a war with Iran on his way out the door and you're complaining about Biden? The guy who was consistently AGAINST intervention for 8 years in the Obama White House? Come on.

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His case was dismissed...the judge refused to comply with the DOJ. Way to embarrass yourself.

IG Horowitz outlined such massive abuse that the FISA court itself said it can no longer trust the FBI. I'm certain you don't believe me despite it being written in a DOJ report.

I don't traffic far right conspiracy theories whatsoever. In fact, I think Qanon is on the of dumbest movements in US history.

Again, you think you voted for progress, all you voted for was DC to return to "normal" which lead to the election of President Trump.

You voted for NOTHING DIFFERENT.

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His case was not "dismissed." A corrupt DOJ tried to stop trying it. That's not the same at all. The DOJ doesn't tell judges what to do. Jesus. What is wrong with you? I'd point out your embarrassment, but you have to have a certain connection to reality to feel shame, and I don't think you have that.

But let's get to the rest of your "logic."

Democrats simultaneously voted for a communist/soclialist but also "normal" DC which is "all the same." Which one is it? Is it "normal DC" or is it "socialism and ANTIFA ANARCHY OMG"? Can't be both, man.

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trey3216 said:

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wuzzybear said:

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This is the basic problem: This country is so divided although my instincts tell me that if Trump is declared the winner and does retain the office that the years following will be much more of the America we are used to and can work with from many viewpoints such as America first, low unemployment, higher workforce anticipation, states rights, keeping abortion on a tight leash, fighting for Israel and on and on as this is nothing any of you don't know. Biden and his minions are such a wild card because the war going on within their own party for moderates vs. radicals will be brutal.

However, a Trump win will bring every left loon out to burn, pillage, and loot the entire country which of course will not be tolerated and then if the National Guard doesn't work we are looking at military intervention and that won't be or look good for anybody.

So either way it's gonna be a hellish situation. So if we are going to have a hellish situation I'd rather have Trump in the WH than Biden who would not even be able to articulate his position or actions leaving a void that who knows how it will be filled. It's the same ole swamp. Really w/o Trump at the helm the Senate is the last stand which no matter what MUST happen.

Flipped maybe as many as 13 house seats for R's which is nice but not a majority. So the war no matter what is going to continue. Does this weaken the country well probably, but give me weak democratic Republic vs. a hellbent for leather assault on the Constitution any day of the week.

Am exhausted from thinking how this will play out. If there is one thing that is 100% guaranteed Trump is NEVER going to give up, concede, stop clamoring about the election fraud and there will be a million assassination plots against him not bc he is Trump, but bc he represents everything globalists hate which is sad it has come to that. We do have a really solid young Republican unit coming in and R's likely take back the House in 2022. So divided govt is OK by me, but Trump needs to be the head of the party and I know he will be because he didn't get 80+million votes for nothing. Love him or hate him he is a game changer.

The one caveat is that if we don't get the election process fixed and go back to one day, one vote this is going to repeat. There are just too many ways to cheat in this modern age of technology. We can't give up and we can't run away from the fight. But all of you should have a backup plan no matter what.

Keep praying, keeping looking to Jesus for he has the final say in all this. Honestly w/o Christ I don't know how anybody maintains any semblance of sanity.

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One of your issues is your adoration of Trump is creeping ever closer to your adoration of Christ, which is sad. No wonder you're so damn tired.

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This post highlights the dishonesty of the Left. Support for Trump does not mean worship of him, that is just one more lie from the Left. I could congratulate a clean win by a Democrat but this election reeks of dirty tricks by Democrats. The strange thing is that they seem to think that no one sees what they did, that getting the office is all that matters and nothing will come back to bite them.

They have no idea what they started.

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The Russians know a bit about lying:

"The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them." Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs

"In our country the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the State." Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn

Doc Holliday said:

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BrooksBearLives said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You voted for an old white war hawk with a Goldman Sachs cabinet and you think you're the resistance LMAO

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LMAO. Please. You think Michael Flynn is innocent of a crime he pled guilty to. You also swore his case was going to be dismissed. You also think he was set up by Obama, who was so out to get Trump that he warned him NOT to hire Flynn... and then set him up by making Flynn break the Logan Act and then lie about it...

Logic isn't your thing. You traffic in far-right conspiracy theories and you think you have special insight others don't.

You shouldn't and you don't. Sit this one out, Tiger.

"Old warhawk." Jesus. Trump's over here trying to start a war with Iran on his way out the door and you're complaining about Biden? The guy who was consistently AGAINST intervention for 8 years in the Obama White House? Come on.

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His case was dismissed...the judge refused to comply with the DOJ. Way to embarrass yourself.

IG Horowitz outlined such massive abuse that the FISA court itself said it can no longer trust the FBI. I'm certain you don't believe me despite it being written in a DOJ report.

I don't traffic far right conspiracy theories whatsoever. In fact, I think Qanon is on the of dumbest movements in US history.

Obama spent almost as much as Bush on war. He dropped more bombs than any president before him and created more chaos and violence in the middle east. So if you want to return to how Obama handled war...you are a war hawk. Period.

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IG Horowitz said absolutely nothing of the sort. My God.

Directly from Horowitz's report:

• The investigation was properly predicated and began when the FBI said it began.
• The FBI did not improperly use confidential human sources.
• The FBI did not use confidential human sources to gather intelligence on the Trump campaign at all.
• There is no relationship between the conduct of the investigation and text exchanges between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

Did you even read it?

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This is the basic problem: This country is so divided although my instincts tell me that if Trump is declared the winner and does retain the office that the years following will be much more of the America we are used to and can work with from many viewpoints such as America first, low unemployment, higher workforce anticipation, states rights, keeping abortion on a tight leash, fighting for Israel and on and on as this is nothing any of you don't know. Biden and his minions are such a wild card because the war going on within their own party for moderates vs. radicals will be brutal.

However, a Trump win will bring every left loon out to burn, pillage, and loot the entire country which of course will not be tolerated and then if the National Guard doesn't work we are looking at military intervention and that won't be or look good for anybody.

So either way it's gonna be a hellish situation. So if we are going to have a hellish situation I'd rather have Trump in the WH than Biden who would not even be able to articulate his position or actions leaving a void that who knows how it will be filled. It's the same ole swamp. Really w/o Trump at the helm the Senate is the last stand which no matter what MUST happen.

Flipped maybe as many as 13 house seats for R's which is nice but not a majority. So the war no matter what is going to continue. Does this weaken the country well probably, but give me weak democratic Republic vs. a hellbent for leather assault on the Constitution any day of the week.

Am exhausted from thinking how this will play out. If there is one thing that is 100% guaranteed Trump is NEVER going to give up, concede, stop clamoring about the election fraud and there will be a million assassination plots against him not bc he is Trump, but bc he represents everything globalists hate which is sad it has come to that. We do have a really solid young Republican unit coming in and R's likely take back the House in 2022. So divided govt is OK by me, but Trump needs to be the head of the party and I know he will be because he didn't get 80+million votes for nothing. Love him or hate him he is a game changer.

The one caveat is that if we don't get the election process fixed and go back to one day, one vote this is going to repeat. There are just too many ways to cheat in this modern age of technology. We can't give up and we can't run away from the fight. But all of you should have a backup plan no matter what.

Keep praying, keeping looking to Jesus for he has the final say in all this. Honestly w/o Christ I don't know how anybody maintains any semblance of sanity.

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One of your issues is your adoration of Trump is creeping ever closer to your adoration of Christ, which is sad. No wonder you're so damn tired.

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This post highlights the dishonesty of the Left. Support for Trump does not mean worship of him, that is just one more lie from the Left. I could congratulate a clean win by a Democrat but this election reeks of dirty tricks by Democrats. The strange thing is that they seem to think that no one sees what they did, that getting the office is all that matters and nothing will come back to bite them.

They have no idea what they started.

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Oh God... you're one of those...

Nevermind. Just wait for the next Q-drop. You're clearly beyond help.

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Here we go again.

Why is it that the resident Leftists are always the ones to bring up Q?

I'd say most Democrats are dishonest, but the two words are synonymous now.

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You voted for an old white war hawk with a Goldman Sachs cabinet and you think you're the resistance LMAO

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LMAO. Please. You think Michael Flynn is innocent of a crime he pled guilty to. You also swore his case was going to be dismissed. You also think he was set up by Obama, who was so out to get Trump that he warned him NOT to hire Flynn... and then set him up by making Flynn break the Logan Act and then lie about it...

Logic isn't your thing. You traffic in far-right conspiracy theories and you think you have special insight others don't.

You shouldn't and you don't. Sit this one out, Tiger.

"Old warhawk." Jesus. Trump's over here trying to start a war with Iran on his way out the door and you're complaining about Biden? The guy who was consistently AGAINST intervention for 8 years in the Obama White House? Come on.

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His case was dismissed...the judge refused to comply with the DOJ. Way to embarrass yourself.

IG Horowitz outlined such massive abuse that the FISA court itself said it can no longer trust the FBI. I'm certain you don't believe me despite it being written in a DOJ report.

I don't traffic far right conspiracy theories whatsoever. In fact, I think Qanon is on the of dumbest movements in US history.

Obama spent almost as much as Bush on war. He dropped more bombs than any president before him and created more chaos and violence in the middle east. So if you want to return to how Obama handled war...you are a war hawk. Period.

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The investigation was properly predicated and began when the FBI said it began

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Durham said that, based on the evidence his team has "collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing," he told Horowitz last month "that we do not agree with some of the report's conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened."

This is coming from a Prosecutor that has unlimited scope which Horowitz did not have. Disagreement with the conclusion of predication is that prediction wasn't warranted.

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The FBI did not use confidential human sources to gather intelligence on the Trump campaign at all.

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Rosemary Collyer, presiding judge on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, said in the unusual public order that the report "calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable."

Kevin Clinesmith plead guilty to altering an email about Carter Page which was used to spy on him.

Sen. Hawley: "Was it your conclusion that political bias did not affect any part of the Page investigation, any part of Crossfire Hurricane?"

IG Horowitz: "We did not reach that conclusion."

Why was that directed to me?

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Is it time for us to seriously have this discussion? Yes, it is time. We no longer have that much in common. Let's have a peaceful and amicable divorce. Go our separate ways. It is time.

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Are you quitting your job tomorrow like your promised or are you quitting that quit too?

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I made this claim many, many months ago. If Joe Biden wins, Yes, I am retiring at 57. If Biden wins, I am going to let your little snowflake ass pay for my free stuff. Why do you not believe me?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Why was that directed to me?

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My bad lol

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

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There was no grasping for excuses. There was a clearly announced failure to plead a traditional case for fraud.

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

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There was no grasping for excuses. There was a clearly announced failure to plead a traditional case for fraud.

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There is plenty of valid reason to pursue the cases, most of which were dismissed for lack of standing, not lack of merit.

Not surprised you are selling the DNC line, though.

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

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There was no grasping for excuses. There was a clearly announced failure to plead a traditional case for fraud.

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There is plenty of valid reason to pursue the cases, most of which were dismissed for lack of standing, not lack of merit.

Not surprised you are selling the DNC line, though.

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I have no idea what the DNC line is. I did, however, read the decisions. We could stick to the law or you could continue with unfounded charges.

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

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There was no grasping for excuses. There was a clearly announced failure to plead a traditional case for fraud.

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There is plenty of valid reason to pursue the cases, most of which were dismissed for lack of standing, not lack of merit.

Not surprised you are selling the DNC line, though.

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I have no idea what the DNC line is. I did, however, read the decisions. We could stick to the law or you could continue with unfounded charges.

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Yes or no, a majority of the cases thrown out were for lack of standing, not the evidence?

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So I would propose that us Socialist States stop providing Social Security and Medicare to the Republic states, cause after all, they don't want any of that socialism stuff. :-)

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No problem with that, plus we can stop paying into it and invest our own money our own way.

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That won't work out for you.

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It has so far

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

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There was no grasping for excuses. There was a clearly announced failure to plead a traditional case for fraud.

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There is plenty of valid reason to pursue the cases, most of which were dismissed for lack of standing, not lack of merit.

Not surprised you are selling the DNC line, though.

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I have no idea what the DNC line is. I did, however, read the decisions. We could stick to the law or you could continue with unfounded charges.

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Yes or no, a majority of the cases thrown out were for lack of standing, not the evidence?

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Neither.

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

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There was no grasping for excuses. There was a clearly announced failure to plead a traditional case for fraud.

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There is plenty of valid reason to pursue the cases, most of which were dismissed for lack of standing, not lack of merit.

Not surprised you are selling the DNC line, though.

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I have no idea what the DNC line is. I did, however, read the decisions. We could stick to the law or you could continue with unfounded charges.

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Yes or no, a majority of the cases thrown out were for lack of standing, not the evidence?

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Neither.

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< snort > should have known better when asking quash.

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

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There was no grasping for excuses. There was a clearly announced failure to plead a traditional case for fraud.

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There is plenty of valid reason to pursue the cases, most of which were dismissed for lack of standing, not lack of merit.

Not surprised you are selling the DNC line, though.

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I have no idea what the DNC line is. I did, however, read the decisions. We could stick to the law or you could continue with unfounded charges.

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Yes or no, a majority of the cases thrown out were for lack of standing, not the evidence?

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Neither.

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< snort > should have known better when asking quash.

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Quote the opinions. I have. Edit: Here's the money quote regarding standing: "The Campaign does not challenge the District Court's finding that the voters lacked standing, so we do not consider their claims."
If you were hoping SCOTUS was going to rule in favor of the standing argument you will be disappointed: they won't even be able to take it up, not from this case.

Start with Bognet.

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You need to understand the difference between opening statements and evidentiary stages of a trial and recall that most of those cases were denied the second stage.

Judges hate to be seen as deciding an election and rejected the cases knowing they would then become the problem of appeals courts.

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Read the appellate decisions: the cases aren't even being plead sufficiently.

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Most judges do not want to be seen as deciding elections, so they will grasp at any excuse to reject such cases.

I agree that the legal efforts have not been adroit, although a lot of that comes from the rarity of this kind of case.

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There was no grasping for excuses. There was a clearly announced failure to plead a traditional case for fraud.

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There is plenty of valid reason to pursue the cases, most of which were dismissed for lack of standing, not lack of merit.

Not surprised you are selling the DNC line, though.

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I have no idea what the DNC line is. I did, however, read the decisions. We could stick to the law or you could continue with unfounded charges.

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Yes or no, a majority of the cases thrown out were for lack of standing, not the evidence?

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Neither.

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< snort > should have known better when asking quash.

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Quote the opinions. I have.

Start with Bognet.

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Bibas added additional conclusions about why the campaign's conclusory and fact-light claims were meritless. "[C]alling an election unfair does not make it so," he wrote. "Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/third-circuit-rejects-trump-campaigns-appeal-of-bidens-pennsylvania-win/


In a blistering decision, a Philadelphia appeals court ruled on Friday that the Trump campaign could not stop or attempt to reverse the certification of the voting results in Pennsylvania, reprimanding the president's team by noting that "calling an election unfair does not make it so."
The 21-page ruling by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals was a complete repudiation of Mr. Trump's legal effort to halt Pennsylvania's certification process and was written by a judge that he himself appointed to the bench. "Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy," Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote on behalf of the appeals court in a unanimous decision. "Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."
Many courts have used scathing language in tossing out a relentless barrage of lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign and its supporters since Election Day; but even so, the Third Circuit's ruling was particularly blunt.
"Voters, not lawyers, choose the president," the court declared at one point. "Ballots, not briefs, decide elections."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/27/us/politics/trump-pennsylvania-appeals-court.html