RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
DioNoZeus said:
13 year olds need to be in school. Thanks CPS.
There are some bad police officers out there. Chavin is one of them.Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
My dad always told me anyone out after midnight is looking or asking for trouble.Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
They shot this white guyLRA Bear said:
Somehow this 61 year old white man in Minnesota managed not to be shot and killed by the police yesterday.
You have a point...SIC EM 94 said:Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
Why are you trying to explain away someone shooting a gun and running from the police? I promise it won't turn you into a conservative to admit this is a recipe for a disaster where nobody wins. You think that cop wanted to be put in a situation where he killed a kid?
Nanny state? You make my point. It is not the state's job to raise your kid. That is your job.Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
SIC EM 94 said:Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
Why are you trying to explain away someone shooting a gun and running from the police? I promise it won't turn you into a conservative to admit this is a recipe for a disaster where nobody wins. You think that cop wanted to be put in a situation where he killed a kid?
Liberals will not understand this. They don't want cope to be the judge and jury...yet they themselves act as judge and jury on the police.SailorBexar said:There are bad police officers. In general, the police could do a better job. I wish we could have seen Tim Scott's police reform bill put up for a vote but it was blocked. Congress can do a better job too.Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
The tragic facts are that Adam had a gun in his hand. Adam was instructed to stop and show his hands, he was not instructed to turn towards the officer. As he turns towards the officer, he tossed the gun behind the fence. Tragically, the gun being tossed behind the fence is blocked from the police officers vision by Adam's body. The officer reacts to Adam turning and raising his hands and with the officer thinking Adam still has a gun in his hand he is put into a very difficult situation. The police officer shoots Adam and then immediately offers aids to Adam.
It's unfortunate. If the cop had waited half a second - Adam would still be alive. If Adam hadn't run or hadn't turned around, he would still be alive.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Nanny state? You make my point. It is not the state's job to raise your kid. That is your job.Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
It doesn't surprise me one bit that you perceive a 13 year old kid shooting cars at 2:30 a.m. as "being outside".
But of course to you people, burning businesses and looting is " peaceful protesting". Not hilarious. Sad.
In which other states does Chicago Public Schools cover?Porteroso said:DioNoZeus said:
13 year olds need to be in school. Thanks CPS.
CPS in most states does an amazing job, considering it's a 100% impossible job.
Yes, being outside in a dark alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. shooting cars contributed to his death. By God, son, I think you've got it!!!Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Nanny state? You make my point. It is not the state's job to raise your kid. That is your job.Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
It doesn't surprise me one bit that you perceive a 13 year old kid shooting cars at 2:30 a.m. as "being outside".
But of course to you people, burning businesses and looting is " peaceful protesting". Not hilarious. Sad.
You questioned why the kid was outside, implying he got shot because he was outside. In reality it easily could have been inside, but here we go, being outside contributed to his death, according to you.
That kind of advice is meant to keep you out of trouble, not give you an excuse to start it. It's certainly not the attitude police should bring to the job.fadskier said:My dad always told me anyone out after midnight is looking or asking for trouble.Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
How many videos of it are out there? The video I watched shows him shooting as the teen was turning around. I assumed he was turning to shoot....Porteroso said:SIC EM 94 said:Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
Why are you trying to explain away someone shooting a gun and running from the police? I promise it won't turn you into a conservative to admit this is a recipe for a disaster where nobody wins. You think that cop wanted to be put in a situation where he killed a kid?
Aren't you trying to explain away the cop killing a kid? Seems there's nothing to explain, the cop killed a kid with his hands up. Why are you so intent on coming to the cop's rescue? A little white knight action?
Oops, I thought you meant Child Protective Services. Outside of cities that start with C, that's what CPS means to most of us.DioNoZeus said:In which other states does Chicago Public Schools cover?Porteroso said:DioNoZeus said:
13 year olds need to be in school. Thanks CPS.
CPS in most states does an amazing job, considering it's a 100% impossible job.
There is a problem: qualified immunity and we should all want to fix it.Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
No, to you people protesting in peace are looters.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Nanny state? You make my point. It is not the state's job to raise your kid. That is your job.Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
It doesn't surprise me one bit that you perceive a 13 year old kid shooting cars at 2:30 a.m. as "being outside".
But of course to you people, burning businesses and looting is " peaceful protesting". Not hilarious. Sad.
I bet we watched the same video. So if cops can say they assumed they were going to get shot, when the fact is that the person didn't have a gun on them at the time, they get a pass?fadskier said:How many videos of it are out there? The video I watched shows him shooting as the teen was turning around. I assumed he was turning to shoot....Porteroso said:SIC EM 94 said:Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
Why are you trying to explain away someone shooting a gun and running from the police? I promise it won't turn you into a conservative to admit this is a recipe for a disaster where nobody wins. You think that cop wanted to be put in a situation where he killed a kid?
Aren't you trying to explain away the cop killing a kid? Seems there's nothing to explain, the cop killed a kid with his hands up. Why are you so intent on coming to the cop's rescue? A little white knight action?
It was meant as a response to where were the parents...Sam Lowry said:That kind of advice is meant to keep you out of trouble, not give you an excuse to start it. It's certainly not the attitude police should bring to the job.fadskier said:My dad always told me anyone out after midnight is looking or asking for trouble.Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
I do think if you run, you are escalating the situation...I think if you are shooting at cars, you are putting yourself in harms way...HOWEVER, I can't judge that the policeman made the wrong decsion in that split second.Porteroso said:I bet we watched the same video. So if cops can say they assumed they were going to get shot, when the fact is that the person didn't have a gun on them at the time, they get a pass?fadskier said:How many videos of it are out there? The video I watched shows him shooting as the teen was turning around. I assumed he was turning to shoot....Porteroso said:SIC EM 94 said:Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
Why are you trying to explain away someone shooting a gun and running from the police? I promise it won't turn you into a conservative to admit this is a recipe for a disaster where nobody wins. You think that cop wanted to be put in a situation where he killed a kid?
Aren't you trying to explain away the cop killing a kid? Seems there's nothing to explain, the cop killed a kid with his hands up. Why are you so intent on coming to the cop's rescue? A little white knight action?
It's a really hard situation, and even if it's not right, or if the cop should have checked to see if there was a gun in the kid's hand, before, I don't know, killing him... the cop wasn't in a good position to be calm, patient, and make good decisions. I just can't stand the radical conservatives on the board bringing up being outside, the kid ran, as if that should make it more likely to die. So ignorant.
I'm seeing the same post you are and I see a question where you see a statement. OddPorteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
It's not hard to frame judginess as a question. Why are you so stupid? Why were you outside?LIB,MR BEARS said:I'm seeing the same post you are and I see a question where you see a statement. OddPorteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
Had he been shooting at cars while inside, from an open window, he'd be alive today. DAMN OUTDOORS!!!Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Nanny state? You make my point. It is not the state's job to raise your kid. That is your job.Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
It doesn't surprise me one bit that you perceive a 13 year old kid shooting cars at 2:30 a.m. as "being outside".
But of course to you people, burning businesses and looting is " peaceful protesting". Not hilarious. Sad.
You questioned why the kid was outside, implying he got shot because he was outside. In reality it easily could have been inside, but here we go, being outside contributed to his death, according to you.
Quash, I like what the new meds are doing for you. You have been on a roll the last several days with some logical post. Blue star for you ...and the doc. lolquash said:There is a problem: qualified immunity and we should all want to fix it.Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
There is another problem: deciding one way or the other about the wrongfulness before the investigation is complete. You can't fix anything on partial information unless you care more about optics than meaningful solutions.
mentioned outside-checkPorteroso said:I bet we watched the same video. So if cops can say they assumed they were going to get shot, when the fact is that the person didn't have a gun on them at the time, they get a pass?fadskier said:How many videos of it are out there? The video I watched shows him shooting as the teen was turning around. I assumed he was turning to shoot....Porteroso said:SIC EM 94 said:Amy Pagitt said:
WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
Why are you trying to explain away someone shooting a gun and running from the police? I promise it won't turn you into a conservative to admit this is a recipe for a disaster where nobody wins. You think that cop wanted to be put in a situation where he killed a kid?
Aren't you trying to explain away the cop killing a kid? Seems there's nothing to explain, the cop killed a kid with his hands up. Why are you so intent on coming to the cop's rescue? A little white knight action?
It's a really hard situation, and even if it's not right, or if the cop should have checked to see if there was a gun in the kid's hand, before, I don't know, killing him... the cop wasn't in a good position to be calm, patient, and make good decisions. I just can't stand the radical conservatives on the board bringing up being outside, the kid ran, as if that should make it more likely to die. So ignorant.
Wow... total lack of reading comprehension here...Porteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
quash said:
Turns out A. T. was shot for not wearing a mask. Now what do your feels tell you?
I see your point. Kind of like asking "why was he shooting at cars" assumes he's guilty of firing at cars.Porteroso said:It's not hard to frame judginess as a question. Why are you so stupid? Why were you outside?LIB,MR BEARS said:I'm seeing the same post you are and I see a question where you see a statement. OddPorteroso said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
Didn't take long before someone says the kid got killed for.... Being outside. Keep your nanny state to yourselves, you radical conservatives. Hilarious.
Amy you should leave your nice neighborhood and go become a cop.Amy Pagitt said:
ah, yes, who among us wouldn't murder someone with their hands up
New here?Canon said:quash said:
Turns out A. T. was shot for not wearing a mask. Now what do your feels tell you?
It's always fun when people try and justify their opinion on a specific situation that did happen, with a fictional one that didn't.
