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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

there seems to be some sort of pattern developing

Doctor friend of mine emailed me that these unvaccinated numbers are false. Said he works 2 hospitals. About 30 COVID patients in each. 27-28 were vaccinated in both which is 90-95% that are vaccinated. Israel has surveys showing high percentage in hospitals are vaccinated.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/08/08/israel-hospital-vaccinated.html

Why is OP trying to shame those that choose to be safe for now and see how these vaccines work before taking them or not???

Even the CDC says vaccines don't prevent a person from getting COVID nor stops them from transmitting COVID to others!

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Doctor friend of mine emailed me that these unvaccinated numbers are false. Said he works 2 hospitals. About 30 COVID patients in each. 27-28 were vaccinated in both which is 90-95% that are vaccinated. Israel has surveys showing high percentage in hospitals are vaccinated.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/08/08/israel-hospital-vaccinated.html

Why is OP trying to shame those that choose to be safe for now and see how these vaccines work before taking them or not???

Even the CDC says vaccines don't prevent a person from getting COVID nor stops them from transmitting COVID to others!

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https://healthcare.ascension.org/doctors/1356457162/e-farley-verner-waco-tx

Here is the article source. A Waco based MD, University of Texas and Baylor College of Medicine trained, with a specialty in Infectious Disease medicine.

Your local doctor friend that has two jobs; Would you be willing to name the two local hospitals they are referencing with false data? The hospital's data will be publicly available. I'll post it here. Yes?

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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magic 8 ball says "still fuzzy, try again later"

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Doctor friend of mine emailed me that these unvaccinated numbers are false. Said he works 2 hospitals. About 30 COVID patients in each. 27-28 were vaccinated in both which is 90-95% that are vaccinated. Israel has surveys showing high percentage in hospitals are vaccinated.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/08/08/israel-hospital-vaccinated.html

Why is OP trying to shame those that choose to be safe for now and see how these vaccines work before taking them or not???

Even the CDC says vaccines don't prevent a person from getting COVID nor stops them from transmitting COVID to others!

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What is wrong with your brain that you would lie about something like this? You are a pathetic human.

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Doctor friend of mine emailed me that these unvaccinated numbers are false. Said he works 2 hospitals. About 30 COVID patients in each. 27-28 were vaccinated in both which is 90-95% that are vaccinated. Israel has surveys showing high percentage in hospitals are vaccinated.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/08/08/israel-hospital-vaccinated.html

Why is OP trying to shame those that choose to be safe for now and see how these vaccines work before taking them or not???

Even the CDC says vaccines don't prevent a person from getting COVID nor stops them from transmitting COVID to others!

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https://healthcare.ascension.org/doctors/1356457162/e-farley-verner-waco-tx

Here is the article source. A Waco based MD, University of Texas and Baylor College of Medicine trained, with a specialty in Infectious Disease medicine.

Your local doctor friend that has two jobs; Would you be willing to name the two local hospitals they are referencing with false data? The hospital's data will be publicly available. I'll post it here. Yes?

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Oooo the gauntlet has been thrown!

Seems to me what he is saying is that the information by the media is opposite of what is actually true.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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no greater expression of it than to die for and because of your choices..

Had a family friend die in a motor vehicle accident recently, hewas just out cruising around on his day off

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

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You don't have freedom in the country and you never did.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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I predict great success in your crusade to make vaccines optional. Especially since they're, you know, optional.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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In order to be admitted to elementary schools, we require kids to be vaccinated. It is not meant to remove their freedom to choose, it is required so kids don't become unintended viral vectors onto other kids.

The Supreme Court upheld vaccine requirements as early as 1922, so there is a century of precedent regardless of right or left views.

My daughter, a student, calls the pandemic the worst group project she has ever participated in, where 25% of the group refuses to participate. She's not wrong.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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I predict great success in your crusade to make vaccines optional. Especially since they're, you know, optional.

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It's more a campaign to keep you fascists from forcing them onto those who don't want them, as your leftist hero politicians have promised to do. It's about respecting personal choice with which you disagree. You wouldn't understand.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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In order to be admitted to elementary schools, we require kids to be vaccinated. It is not meant to remove their freedom to choose, it is required so kids don't become unintended viral vectors onto other kids.

The Supreme Court upheld vaccine requirements as early as 1922, so there is a century of precedent regardless of right or left views.

My daughter, a student, calls the pandemic the worst group project she has ever participated in, where 25% of the group refuses to participate. She's not wrong.

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Well she's certainly not very bright or good at formulating analogies. Good luck with her education. Sounds like you'll need it.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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I predict great success in your crusade to make vaccines optional. Especially since they're, you know, optional.

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It's more a campaign to keep you fascists from forcing them onto those who don't want them, as your leftist hero politicians have promised to do. It's about respecting personal choice with which you disagree. You wouldn't understand.

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Which politicians are those?

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Personal choice is good. Those, however, are not the only two choices. Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact. And of course sometimes (50%) there's no impact from the virus at all.

Personal risk calculation is important.

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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I predict great success in your crusade to make vaccines optional. Especially since they're, you know, optional.

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Yes, optional if you want to eat, shop, ride public transit and hold a job in places around the country. Totally optional!

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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I can think of a few other options than those two...

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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I predict great success in your crusade to make vaccines optional. Especially since they're, you know, optional.

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Yes, optional if you want to eat, shop, ride public transit and hold a job in places around the country. Totally optional!

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact.

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Healing crystals have worked at least as often

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact.

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Healing crystals have worked at least as often

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I hear healing crystals are great for menstrual cramps. Can you confirm?

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact.

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Healing crystals have worked at least as often

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I hear healing crystals are great for menstrual cramps. Can you confirm?

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You better not let your wife's boyfriend hear you talk about women like that

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact.

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Healing crystals have worked at least as often

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I hear healing crystals are great for menstrual cramps. Can you confirm?

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You better not let your wife's boyfriend hear you talk about women like that

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Is that a yes?

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15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact.

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Healing crystals have worked at least as often

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I hear healing crystals are great for menstrual cramps. Can you confirm?

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You better not let your wife's boyfriend hear you talk about women like that

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Is that a yes?

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It's never too late to learn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_reproductive_system

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Doctor friend of mine emailed me that these unvaccinated numbers are false. Said he works 2 hospitals. About 30 COVID patients in each. 27-28 were vaccinated in both which is 90-95% that are vaccinated. Israel has surveys showing high percentage in hospitals are vaccinated.

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/08/08/israel-hospital-vaccinated.html

Why is OP trying to shame those that choose to be safe for now and see how these vaccines work before taking them or not???

Even the CDC says vaccines don't prevent a person from getting COVID nor stops them from transmitting COVID to others!

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This comment is anecdotal, at best, but according to your doctor friend, how many of those 27-28 died?

And when a population group is nearly fully vaccinated, of course a large portion of the people that are infected will be vaccinated. For the one millionth time, the vaccine doesn't prevent anyone from getting the virus. To take it one step further, if a population group was 100% vaccinated, 100% of the people that end up infected would be vaccinated. That doesn't mean the vaccine isn't accomplishing the intended purpose.

You keep talking about Israel. What's important to note is that the infections are high right now because of Delta, but the fatality numbers are significantly lower than before the vaccine. And we will know more in the coming weeks and months, but it is likely this curve will go faster than the previous ones because so much of their population is vaccinated.

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https://wacotrib.com/news/local/labor-day-weekend-sees-15-new-covid-19-deaths-854-cases-in-mclennan-county/article_b367f1f8-102e-11ec-9dbf-57f70babe713.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact.

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Healing crystals have worked at least as often

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I hear healing crystals are great for menstrual cramps. Can you confirm?

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You better not let your wife's boyfriend hear you talk about women like that

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Is that a yes?

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It's never too late to learn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_reproductive_system

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I was hoping to hear a bit of your personal experience.

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https://wacotrib.com/news/local/labor-day-weekend-sees-15-new-covid-19-deaths-854-cases-in-mclennan-county/article_b367f1f8-102e-11ec-9dbf-57f70babe713.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact.

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Healing crystals have worked at least as often

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I hear healing crystals are great for menstrual cramps. Can you confirm?

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You better not let your wife's boyfriend hear you talk about women like that

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Is that a yes?

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It's never too late to learn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_reproductive_system

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I was hoping to hear a bit of your personal experience.

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Isn't his link a little transphobic? He's canceled.

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https://wacotrib.com/news/local/labor-day-weekend-sees-15-new-covid-19-deaths-854-cases-in-mclennan-county/article_b367f1f8-102e-11ec-9dbf-57f70babe713.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The free will of the deceased is certainly gone.

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Freedom, true freedom, allows one to make his own personal choices for his own life, regardless of the outcome to himself. A free man owns both his success and his failures. A free man gets to make his own risk calculations.

The vaccine should be a choice. The risk calculation should be up to the individual. I have family members with Covid now who should have taken the vaccine, given the statistical risks from their age and health status. I respect their choice not to do so, even if I disagreed. That is what freedom requires.

The left is obsessed with removing personal choice (and responsibility) at all costs.

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it's either the vax or a tube down your throat. Personal choice is good.

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Personal choice is good. Those, however, are not the only two choices. Prophylactics and therapeutics do indeed help ameliorate the virus' impact. And of course sometimes (50%) there's no impact from the virus at all.

Personal risk calculation is important.

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I can agree with you on that. But 1/2 chance is something to factor in.

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https://wacotrib.com/news/local/labor-day-weekend-sees-15-new-covid-19-deaths-854-cases-in-mclennan-county/article_b367f1f8-102e-11ec-9dbf-57f70babe713.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The problem is that their ignorance and stupidity are endangering other people.

C. Jordan said:

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Canon said:

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https://wacotrib.com/news/local/labor-day-weekend-sees-15-new-covid-19-deaths-854-cases-in-mclennan-county/article_b367f1f8-102e-11ec-9dbf-57f70babe713.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday

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QUICK! Let's take away their free will!

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The problem is that their ignorance and stupidity are endangering other people.

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Not if they are vaccinated (at least not in a statistically significant way). I am vaxed and will get my booster when available. But if some adult human doesn't want to get vaxed and take that risk, that's on them.

WHO urges wealthy nations to stop COVID-19 boosters for the rest of the year https://t.co/aAgMGQEehz pic.twitter.com/cDkAAscFn7

— The Hill (@thehill) September 8, 2021