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https://wacotrib.com/news/local/labor-day-weekend-sees-15-new-covid-19-deaths-854-cases-in-mclennan-county/article_b367f1f8-102e-11ec-9dbf-57f70babe713.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
15 McLennan County residents died of COVID-19 since last Friday
QUICK! Let's take away their free will!
The problem is that their ignorance and stupidity are endangering other people.
No, if you're vaxxed you have nothing to fear, remember? That's the whole point of the vax.
The irony.
No it wasn't
Actually, it was. We were told get vaxxed so you don't die. That being the case, no reason to mandate a vaccine that doesn't prevent the spread. The vaxxed are not being endangered.
I was never told that. I was informed that if I got vaxxed and contracted the disease, it would not be fatal and would be a lighter case.
That's a different way of saying the same thing I just said - we were told get vaxxed so you don't have a fatal case. It's the reason I encouraged my older in laws and dad to get the vaccine. They are more vulnerable.
We agree on the rest. It should not be a mandate.
The mandate is a difficult and slippery slope. The fundamental question is "Is there a time when the government can and should mandate behavior for the greater good."
The answer is yes and we already do...for arguments sake...why is this vaccine different that mandating legal alcohol content, abortion, wearing a helmet on a motorcycle...etc?
I don't believe any of that should be mandated. But requiring a medical procedure is decidedly different than any of the examples you used. Arguing that because the govt. mandates some things it can or should mandate others does not a good argument make.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you just say you AREN'T for mandates?
My first response to a mandate is no...but then I have to back up and think about it. I'm against abortion. I have been vaccinated by every vaccination that is offered and, quite honestly, I don't understand why people react so differently to this one.
I mean, there are very few unvaccinated people for other diseases. Why is this one so different?
Lots of people will say because they got pushed through so fast and only had EUA "emergency use authorization" from the FDA rather than full FDA approval.
Partly, it's social media. Anyone has a bad reaction to a vaccine, everyone hears about it on twitter, even though it's statistically not very risky.
Reality is it is also partially political. Biden and Harris made crappy comments about the vaccines when Trump was president and was helping push them through. Now that they're in charge, they're appalled that anyone is reacting negatively to them. They're laying in the bed they made for themselves, to an extent.
Some people just really don't like getting shots. Some people don't like the hassle. Lots of people had covid and realized it didn't make them very sick (me, but I got vaxed anyway so I wouldn't have to hear about it).