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Gameday Thread: #1 Baylor (27-6) vs #8 North Carolina (25-9)

March 19, 2022
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#1 Seed Baylor (27-6) takes on #8 Seed North Carolina (25-9) Saturday March 19th at 11:10 am CST in Fort Worth at Dickies Arena.  The winner advances to Philadelphia to take on the winner of UCLA vs St Mary's.  

KenPom Prediction:  Baylor 78 North Carolina 71

Torvik Prediction:  Baylor 78 North Carolina 71

Evan Miyakawa Prediction:  Baylor 77 North Carolina 74

Coaches

North Carolina:  Hubert Davis (51) 25-9; 1 NCAA

Baylor:  Scott Drew (51); 419-230 overall (398-219 at Baylor); 10 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  0-0

North Carolina Starters

Guard:  RJ Davis (SO) 6-0 175 lbs; 13 ppg; 4 reb; 4 asst; 44% FG; 38% 3pt; 79% FT

Guard:  Caleb Love (SO) 6-4 195 lbs; 16 ppg; 3 reb; 4 asst; 37% FG; 38% 3pt; 87% FT

Forward:  Leaky Black (SR) 6-8 200 lbs; 5 ppg; 4 reb; 3 asst; 48% FG; 35% 3pt; 88% FT

Forward:  Brady Manek (SR) 6-9 230 lbs; 15 ppg; 6 reb; 49% FG; 39% 3pt; 71% FT

Forward:  Armando Bacot (JR) 6-10 240 lbs; 17 ppg; 12 reb; 2 blks; 59% FG; 70% FT

North Carolina Bench

Guard:  Dontrez Styles (FR) 6-6 210 lbs; 2 ppg; 46% FG; 53% FT

Guard:  Puff Johnson (SO) 6-8 205 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 reb; 43% FG; 23% 3pt; 73% FT

Baylor Starters

Guard:  James Akinjo (SR) 6-1 190 lbs; 13 ppg; 3 reb; 6 asst; 2 st; 39% FG; 30% 3pt; 83% FT

Guard:  Adam Flagler (JR) 6-3 180 lbs; 13 ppg; 2 reb; 3 asst; 44% FG; 39% 3pt; 74% FT

Forward:  Matt Mayer (SR) 6-9 230 lbs; 10 ppg; 5 reb; 1 st; 41% FG; 32% 3pt; 69% FT

Forward:  Kendall Brown (FR) 6-8 205 lbs; 10 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst; 59% FG; 38% 3pt; 70% FT

Forward:  Flo Thamba (SR) 6-10 250 lbs; 6 ppg; 6 reb; 1 blk; 55% FG; 59% FT

Baylor Bench

*Guard:  LJ Cryer (SO) 6-1 190 lbs; 14 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 48% FG; 47% 3pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Jeremy Sochan (FR) 6-9 230 lbs; 9 ppg; 6 reb; 2 asst; 49% FG; 30% 3pt; 57% FT

Guard:  Dale Bonner (JR) 6-2 170 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 asst; 33% FG; 17% 3pt; 74% FT

*injuries, status uncertain

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Gameday Thread: #1 Baylor (27-6) vs #8 North Carolina (25-9)

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In reply to TheGreatHambino • 6:00p, 3/19/22
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DanaDane said:
bear2be2 said:



Their guards and Manek beat us. We couldn't defend the 3 in the halfcourt.

This is the most succinct description of what I saw at the game. With all the focus on UNC's size, ironically we got beat by the shortest player on their team. Well, him and the mop headed transfer kid from OU.

This will always be the season of What Could Have Been. It was so gutwrenching that I didn't even want to stay for the KU-Creighton game.
Manek was MURDERING Flo on the roll. He just isn't athletic enough to close that out. I 100% believe if we have JTT, he sticks to Manek like glue and we run these guys out if the gym


That and our best 3 point shooter sat on the bench i street clothes.

All that said we missed enough layups akd wide open looks that it was there for the taking.

If Flagler could have buried that other FT we could have won too. So many chippies missed
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6:16p, 3/19/22
That on air team was the

Carolina
Blue
Show

They were practically giddy
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 6:20p, 3/19/22
Jack Bauer said:
That on air team was the

Carolina
Blue
Show

They were practically giddy
They were beating the defending national champions by 25. That's a major story. Once we made our run, they got super excited about that.

Our fans are the most thin-skinned bunch on the planet.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 6:30p, 3/19/22
bear2be2 said:
Jack Bauer said:
That on air team was the

Carolina
Blue
Show

They were practically giddy
They were beating the defending national champions by 25. That's a major story. Once we made our run, they got super excited about that.

Our fans are the most thin-skinned bunch on the planet.


Good grief. I'm talking about the studio hosts.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 6:39p, 3/19/22
Jack Bauer said:
bear2be2 said:
Jack Bauer said:
That on air team was the

Carolina
Blue
Show

They were practically giddy
They were beating the defending national champions by 25. That's a major story. Once we made our run, they got super excited about that.

Our fans are the most thin-skinned bunch on the planet.


Good grief. I'm talking about the studio hosts.
Fair enough. But "on-air team" is a fairly nebulous phrase, no? And others have complained about the broadcast crew.
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In reply to BluesBear • 7:12p, 3/19/22
BluesBear said:
Just like we need terms limits from Politicians, we need the same thing for Refs. Some of these guys just can't keep up with the pace of the game.
This. I retired at 46 because I knew I had to be in position to make the call. A lot of officials stay on longer than they are really able to do the job, and the teams pay for that.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:54p, 3/19/22
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
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In reply to Stefano DiMera • 8:58p, 3/19/22
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:02p, 3/19/22
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:06p, 3/19/22
Much of it was schtick, if that's the right word
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 9:08p, 3/19/22
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

UNC had the defending national champs down 25 after 30 minutes. The talking heads were right.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:10p, 3/19/22
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

UNC had the defending national champs down 25 after 30 minutes. The talking heads were right.
So ignore the rest of the game? What are you, a Longhorn fan?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 9:15p, 3/19/22
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

UNC had the defending national champs down 25 after 30 minutes. The talking heads were right.
So ignore the rest of the game? What are you, a Longhorn fan?
Who has ignored anything? But when the two teams were trying to execute their halfcourt game plans, one dominated the other on both ends of the floor.

I'm thankful that we had the personnel and heart to get back into the game with the press, but we were outclassed in every imaginable area before that. All of the things that pundits would have pointed to as reasons for this being a tough matchup for Baylor were 100 percent correct.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:29p, 3/19/22
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

UNC had the defending national champs down 25 after 30 minutes. The talking heads were right.
So ignore the rest of the game? What are you, a Longhorn fan?
Who has ignored anything? But when the two teams were trying to execute their halfcourt game plans, one dominated the other on both ends of the floor.

I'm thankful that we had the personnel and heart to get back into the game with the press, but we were outclassed in every imaginable area before that. All of the things that pundits would have pointed to as reasons for this being a tough matchup for Baylor were 100 percent correct.
No, that's wrong. The fact that this game went to OT proves the talking heads were wrong.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 9:30p, 3/19/22
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

UNC had the defending national champs down 25 after 30 minutes. The talking heads were right.
So ignore the rest of the game? What are you, a Longhorn fan?
Who has ignored anything? But when the two teams were trying to execute their halfcourt game plans, one dominated the other on both ends of the floor.

I'm thankful that we had the personnel and heart to get back into the game with the press, but we were outclassed in every imaginable area before that. All of the things that pundits would have pointed to as reasons for this being a tough matchup for Baylor were 100 percent correct.
No, that's wrong. The fact that this game went to OT proves the talking heads were wrong.
What? We were favored by 5.5. You're just salty. Get over it.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:41p, 3/19/22
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

UNC had the defending national champs down 25 after 30 minutes. The talking heads were right.
So ignore the rest of the game? What are you, a Longhorn fan?
Who has ignored anything? But when the two teams were trying to execute their halfcourt game plans, one dominated the other on both ends of the floor.

I'm thankful that we had the personnel and heart to get back into the game with the press, but we were outclassed in every imaginable area before that. All of the things that pundits would have pointed to as reasons for this being a tough matchup for Baylor were 100 percent correct.
No, that's wrong. The fact that this game went to OT proves the talking heads were wrong.
What? We were favored by 5.5. You're just salty. Get over it.
ESPN and CBS had diddly to do with the Vegas line. Get your facts right.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 9:44p, 3/19/22
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

UNC had the defending national champs down 25 after 30 minutes. The talking heads were right.
So ignore the rest of the game? What are you, a Longhorn fan?
Who has ignored anything? But when the two teams were trying to execute their halfcourt game plans, one dominated the other on both ends of the floor.

I'm thankful that we had the personnel and heart to get back into the game with the press, but we were outclassed in every imaginable area before that. All of the things that pundits would have pointed to as reasons for this being a tough matchup for Baylor were 100 percent correct.
No, that's wrong. The fact that this game went to OT proves the talking heads were wrong.
What? We were favored by 5.5. You're just salty. Get over it.
ESPN and CBS had diddly to do with the Vegas line. Get your facts right.
The talking heads said that would be a tough matchup for Baylor. It was ... for all of the reasons they said it would be. Rallying from 25 down to get the game to overtime when you were favored by 5.5 doesn't disprove anything.

But stay salty.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 9:47p, 3/19/22
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Oldbear83 said:
bear2be2 said:
Stefano DiMera said:
Yeah on air means the ones on air doing the game

I hope he realizes one of those studio hosts is a UNC Hall of Famer.
And no one should take what Kenny or Charles say seriously. Those guys are entertainers this time of year. They're not experts or even pundits.
All I know is that all Friday evening and all Saturday morning I kept hearing CBS and ESPN people talk up UNC and talk down Baylor.

The defending National Champs deserve better than that.

Scott Drew deserves better than that.

UNC had the defending national champs down 25 after 30 minutes. The talking heads were right.
So ignore the rest of the game? What are you, a Longhorn fan?
Who has ignored anything? But when the two teams were trying to execute their halfcourt game plans, one dominated the other on both ends of the floor.

I'm thankful that we had the personnel and heart to get back into the game with the press, but we were outclassed in every imaginable area before that. All of the things that pundits would have pointed to as reasons for this being a tough matchup for Baylor were 100 percent correct.
No, that's wrong. The fact that this game went to OT proves the talking heads were wrong.
What? We were favored by 5.5. You're just salty. Get over it.
ESPN and CBS had diddly to do with the Vegas line. Get your facts right.
The talking heads said that would be a tough matchup for Baylor. It was ... for all of the reasons they said it would be. Rallying from 25 down to get the game to overtime when you were favored by 5.5 doesn't disprove anything.

But stay salty.
You chose to pay attention only part of the game, not all of it.

That's your salt.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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11:43p, 3/19/22
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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12:00a, 3/20/22


I can name 2:
avoid foul trouble
remain in the game
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to historian • 12:41a, 3/20/22
historian said:


I can name 2:
avoid foul trouble
remain in the game
Rebound without elbowing someone on the face?

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In reply to bear2be2 • 12:32p, 3/20/22
Great find. What are the narratives that has been repeated quite a bit is that he never should've been ejected. If this is a pattern for him then it was justified.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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12:38p, 3/20/22
In March Madness, you can't have a deep run with 3 injured top players. Baylor did great.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:14p, 3/20/22
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CHP Bear said:
Heck he'd have found out by middle of 2nd half if refs hadn't swallowed the whistle 1st half.
in fairness, the same was true in the second half of Mayer. He could have had about 10 fouls called.

The refs protected both of those guys, and the game was better for it.
Am I to understand refs are to protect players? As for first 1st half fouls. They completely took us out of the game. Put a lot of pressure on Drew to sit players in early foul trouble. As a result, the flow of the game and player packages were disrupted. Our early missed 3 didn't help. In total fairness, had refs called NC reach-ins then both teams should have been in the bonus 1sr half. For me the seasons over.
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