#18 Baylor (1-0) plays Washington (0-0) at 8:30pm CST in Anchorage, Alaska on November 8th. The game will be broadcast on ESPN.
KenPom Rankings
Washington: 47 overall; 73 offensive efficiency; 26 defensive efficiency
Baylor: 11 overall; 18 offensive efficiency; 17 defensive efficiency
Prediction: Baylor 71 Washington 67
Coaches
Washington: Mike Hopkins (50); 48-22; 1 NCAA
Baylor: Scott Drew (49); 339-219 overall (319-208 at Baylor); 8 NCAAs; 4 Sweet 16s; 2 Elite 8s
Washington Starters
PG: Quade Green (SO) 6-0 170 lbs; 8 ppg; 2 asst; 1 st; 45% FG; 42% 3pt; 90% FT (UK transfer)
SG: Nahziah Carter (JR) 6-6 205 lbs; 8 ppg; 2 reb; 48% FG; 31% 3pt; 64% FT
SF: Jaden McDaniels (FR); 6-9 200 lbs; 19 ppg; 9 reb; 48% FG; 29% 3pt; 71% FT; EYBL stats 5*
PF: Hameir Wright (JR); 6-9 220 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 reb; 1 blk; 27% FG; 24% 3pt; 71% FT
C: Isaiah Stewart (FR) 6-9 250 lbs; 18 ppg; 11 reb; 1 blks; 57% FG; 73% FT; EYBL stats 5*
Washington Bench
G: Elijah Hardy (SO) 6-2 170 lbs; 1 ppg; 50% FG; 50% 3pt
G: Jamal Bey (SO); 6-6 210 lbs; 1 ppg; 1 reb; 45% FG; 40% 3pt; 54% FT
F: Raequan Battle (FR) 6-5 185 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 37% FG; 34% 3pt; 79% FT; EYBL stats 4*
F: Nate Roberts (RFR) 6-10 245 lbs; 3 ppg; 4 reb; 1 blk; 44% FG; 50% FT; EYBL stats 3*
Baylor Starters
PG: Davion Mitchell (R-SO) 6-2 195 lbs; 7 ppg; 5 asst; 50% FG; 25% 3pt
SG: Jared Butler (SO) 6-3 185 lbs; 30 ppg; 4 reb; 5 asst; 2 st; 71% FG; 67% 3pt; 100% FT
SF: Macio Teague (JR) 6-3 195 lbs; 18 ppg; 10 reb; 3 asst; 58% FG; 67% 3pt
PF: Freddie Gillespie (SR) 6-9 245 lbs; 14 ppg; 7 reb; 1 blk; 86% FG; 100% FT
C: Tristan Clark (JR) 6-10 250 lbs; 3 ppg; 4 reb; 33% FG; 50% FT
Baylor Bench
F: Mark Vital (JR) 6-5 230 lbs; 6 ppg; 5 reb; 29% FG; 50% FT
G: Devonte Bandoo (SR) 6-3 195 lbs; 15 ppg; 7 reb; 3 asst; 60% FG; 75% 3pt
F: Matthew Mayer (SO) 6-9 210 lbs; 8 ppg; 2 reb; 43% FG; 100% 3pt
F: Flo Thamba (SO) 6-11 245 lbs; 4 ppg; 5 reb; 1blk; 100% FG
Against what competition though? I remember him having a nice game against a shorthanded Oregon and balling against TCU. Everyone else we played before he got hurt wasn't very competitive. I'm just saying he's probably not the savior some are expecting him to be.Mitch Henessey said:You mean the same player that averaged 15/8 and was the most efficient player in the entire country? Yeah, he sucks.rudylaw said:I'm still trying to remember when Clark ever dominated before the injury. It looks like the same player to me.Mitch Henessey said:Dude's coming off a season-ending knee injury. This is a very bad take.Yeek said:
Clark 3/14. Took the most shots on the team. Should have benched him midway through the second half. If we're gonna ride him this season then we're in trouble. Like others said, we were better with our guard oriented offense when he went down last year. That's just the reality.
Officials, like they normally do, call a completely different game in the second half. Still, this team seemed to lapse on defense when the offense dried up in the second half... which was the opposite of the first. I Had nothing in transition in the second half at all aside from a near turnover that led to a Bandoo three. This game won't hurt us come March but it's so frustrating to see a complete collapse like that.BU25 said:
Last defensive foul on UW was with 15 min left. Our big guys combine for 10-35. It's not a coincidence. We got more and more aggressive as the 2nd half went on and continued to get hammered on dunk attempts at the rim.
We should've still won the game, but that was Phog level absurdity.
Mitch Henessey said:You mean the same player that averaged 15/8 and was the most efficient player in the entire country? Yeah, he sucks.rudylaw said:I'm still trying to remember when Clark ever dominated before the injury. It looks like the same player to me.Mitch Henessey said:Dude's coming off a season-ending knee injury. This is a very bad take.Yeek said:
Clark 3/14. Took the most shots on the team. Should have benched him midway through the second half. If we're gonna ride him this season then we're in trouble. Like others said, we were better with our guard oriented offense when he went down last year. That's just the reality.
Maybe not, but the hand-wringing about his play is very overblown. He was also good against Wichita State, despite that game being a blowout. He'll figure it out. Not worried about him at all. I'm more worried about Vital not being able to shoot, Freddy still going up extremely softly at the rim, Teague shrinking from the moment, and Mitchell not providing much on the offensive end. If we want to fret, there are much more legitimate things to fret about than a player returning from a serious injury getting his sea legs under him in game 2.rudylaw said:Against what competition though? I remember him having a nice game against a shorthanded Oregon and balling against TCU. Everyone else we played before he got hurt wasn't very competitive. I'm just saying he's probably not the savior some are expecting him to be.Mitch Henessey said:You mean the same player that averaged 15/8 and was the most efficient player in the entire country? Yeah, he sucks.rudylaw said:I'm still trying to remember when Clark ever dominated before the injury. It looks like the same player to me.Mitch Henessey said:Dude's coming off a season-ending knee injury. This is a very bad take.Yeek said:
Clark 3/14. Took the most shots on the team. Should have benched him midway through the second half. If we're gonna ride him this season then we're in trouble. Like others said, we were better with our guard oriented offense when he went down last year. That's just the reality.
We don't necessarily need him to average that many points but just be efficient which I think he'll get there.BU25 said:Mitch Henessey said:You mean the same player that averaged 15/8 and was the most efficient player in the entire country? Yeah, he sucks.rudylaw said:I'm still trying to remember when Clark ever dominated before the injury. It looks like the same player to me.Mitch Henessey said:Dude's coming off a season-ending knee injury. This is a very bad take.Yeek said:
Clark 3/14. Took the most shots on the team. Should have benched him midway through the second half. If we're gonna ride him this season then we're in trouble. Like others said, we were better with our guard oriented offense when he went down last year. That's just the reality.
Clark dominated his last 5 games last year and actually averaged over 16 a game against P5 opponents. We need him averaging 17 and 8 this year. Matt Mayer needs to find a way to stay in games, we could've used an offensive spark down the stretch.
I don't know. Could've easily added 6 more turnovers to the total. To your point however, for all our supposed depth, Mayer got 2 minutes and Flo DNP with Turner redshirting.Booray said:
BTW, Kegler leaving has now cost us 1game
I hear you. I guess we have to take this as an early wake up call. To the players and the staff. Early losses like this can have greater benefits than wins that coverup problems.Mitch Henessey said:Maybe not, but the hand-wringing about his play is very overblown. He was also good against Wichita State, despite that game being a blowout. He'll figure it out. Not worried about him at all. I'm more worried about Vital not being able to shoot, Freddy still going up extremely softly at the rim, Teague shrinking from the moment, and Mitchell not providing much on the offensive end. If we want to fret, there are much more legitimate things to fret about than a player returning from a serious injury getting his sea legs under him in game 2.rudylaw said:Against what competition though? I remember him having a nice game against a shorthanded Oregon and balling against TCU. Everyone else we played before he got hurt wasn't very competitive. I'm just saying he's probably not the savior some are expecting him to be.Mitch Henessey said:You mean the same player that averaged 15/8 and was the most efficient player in the entire country? Yeah, he sucks.rudylaw said:I'm still trying to remember when Clark ever dominated before the injury. It looks like the same player to me.Mitch Henessey said:Dude's coming off a season-ending knee injury. This is a very bad take.Yeek said:
Clark 3/14. Took the most shots on the team. Should have benched him midway through the second half. If we're gonna ride him this season then we're in trouble. Like others said, we were better with our guard oriented offense when he went down last year. That's just the reality.
That remains to be seen.DanaDane said:
As frustrating as this was, I have to convince myself the team grew a lot more tonight than if we'd played our usual 20+ point non-conference win over a SWAC or MEAC school.
Johnny Bear said:That remains to be seen.DanaDane said:
As frustrating as this was, I have to convince myself the team grew a lot more tonight than if we'd played our usual 20+ point non-conference win over a SWAC or MEAC school.
2011 says hello. But, yes, I'll also ride with Drew who is incredibly consistent and delivers year after year. Again, this game won't hurt us if we learn from those mistakes and turn them around.Booray said:Johnny Bear said:That remains to be seen.DanaDane said:
As frustrating as this was, I have to convince myself the team grew a lot more tonight than if we'd played our usual 20+ point non-conference win over a SWAC or MEAC school.
Of course it does. However, it would be really odd if this is the one year a Scott Drew team fails to dramatically improve. He can and will coach'em up. He always does.
You're a below-average posterHerb1986 said:
Drew is an average coach. Always will be.
Feel better?Herb1986 said:
Drew is an average coach. Always will be.
No, he's better than average, but he does have a pretty obvious ceiling that is below winning a conference title of any kind or getting to a Final Four. He's been at BU long enough for at least one of those to have happened if it was a possibility for him.Herb1986 said:
Drew is an average coach. Always will be.
Hahaha average team...that 5 points you scored down the stretch is exactly what the defending pac12 champs have done to every team in the Hopkins era. Shut that weak stuff down.Baylorbears111 said:
No they aren't. This was a loss to an average team.
Again/..you may want to do research on what Washington has done on defense under Hopkins....this is a very very common tale and opposing fan bases always sound like this..."oh the refs beat us, oh oh we beat ourselves, oh oh Washington is too mean they're too tough"CaliByWayOfKS said:
That was a beyond pathetic display of basketball... Sad part is most of that had nothing to do with Washington's play.
When you have 3 players go 10-35 shooting... Yikes.
The top of the Pac 12 = average team in the Big 12.Mattieflo said:Hahaha average team...that 5 points you scored down the stretch is exactly what the defending pac12 champs have done to every team in the Hopkins era. Shut that weak stuff down.Baylorbears111 said:
No they aren't. This was a loss to an average team.
You couldn't deal with our length like most teams can't. Just another notch in our belt. Cya!
Yeah, it's great to laugh at those people when he goes to a Final Four or wins a conference title.....oh wait...Bear8084 said:
Basketball losses always bring out the knee-jerk opinions of Drew...and then he goes and proves them wrong over and over again. It's pretty funny to watch as the season progresses.
Johnny Bear said:Yeah, it's great to laugh at those people when he goes to a Final Four or wins a conference title.....oh wait...Bear8084 said:
Basketball losses always bring out the knee-jerk opinions of Drew...and then he goes and proves them wrong over and over again. It's pretty funny to watch as the season progresses.
Lol I missed that memo when Washington whooped Kansas's ass at Kansas in 2017 as well. **** I wish we could play a big 12 team everyday muhahahahaha.Johnny Bear said:The top of the Pac 12 = average team in the Big 12.Mattieflo said:Hahaha average team...that 5 points you scored down the stretch is exactly what the defending pac12 champs have done to every team in the Hopkins era. Shut that weak stuff down.Baylorbears111 said:
No they aren't. This was a loss to an average team.
You couldn't deal with our length like most teams can't. Just another notch in our belt. Cya!
