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GameDay Thread: Baylor travels to Texas Tech for first time since 2008

November 13, 2020
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Baylor (1-4) is back on the road again to face off against Texas Tech (2-5) on Saturday at 3:00 p.m. CT in a game that will be aired on FS1. 

Baylor vs. Texas Tech Primer

A year after a controversial ending to the 2019 contest between Baylor and Texas Tech in Waco, the Bears hit the road to Lubbock in what will be a game that could be the turning point for both programs in 2020. 

After a season opening victory over Kansas, the Bears have struggled to find consistency in the stretch of four-straight losses that followed. As for the Red Raiders, Matt Wells’ teams has seen it all: a very close call to Houston Baptist, an overtime loss to Texas after having a 15-point lead with 3:13 remaining in regulation and blow out losses to Iowa State, Oklahoma and TCU. Oh, and a random win over West Virginia right in the middle. 

But the paths to the current records have been quite different. While Baylor has worked through a scheme change on offense and defense under new head coach Dave Aranda while dealing with three game cancellations and postponements because of COVID, Tech has struggled under their second-year head who has tried to build on a 4-8 2019 season that was scalped by four losses by three points or less.

That included a double-overtime loss to the Bears where a fumble that was recovered by the Red Raiders in the first extra period was ruled an illegal snap. If both teams were in the position they had hoped this fall, that specific play would likely be getting much more attention leading up to kickoff.

The internal issues for both programs at this juncture in the season are more pressing, however. While Texas Tech plans to play two quarterbacks against the Bears tomorrow, Aranda’s defense will be dealing with the challenge of replacing their leading rusher and their best defender, Sqwirl Williams and Terrel Bernard, who were both lost for the season due to injury last Saturday against Iowa State. 

Needless to say, something has to give for the teams that have a combined record of 3-9. 

Baylor vs. Texas Tech Content
How Baylor can attack Tech’s defense
Texada, Barnes exemplify the consistency Baylor needs
Ride or Die: Why Charlie Brewer is Baylor’s guy for 2020
A statistical preview of Texas Tech
Trust the Podcast: Bears in Lubbock for first time since 2008

 

Baylor vs. Texas Tech Prediction

Written by Sam Bradshaw (S11)

Neither team is looking strong this year but both are probably 3-4 win teams in a “normal” year at this point.  Both teams have dynamic skill guys, inconsistency at QB, and line issues.   One team forces turnovers, doesn’t massively lose the field position battle, and shows more ability to impact the opposing offense.

Baylor wins one that’s close.

Baylor 34, Texas Tech 30

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In reply to DanaDane • 6:47p, 11/14/20
Disagree... with a competent OC, we'll be competitive.
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6:48p, 11/14/20
He didn't make the trip to Lubbock, and he hasn't played but for about 2 plays this year, I think there's at least a 90% chance he is portal bound, and if he doesn't play, despite being a better player (Zeno), why would he stay? Remember, Gerry was a top recruit out of Arkansas - doubt he appreciates not getting any time in this atrocious year when we need to be building experience for the long-term future of the team
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6:48p, 11/14/20
Fact- Baylor is officially the worst team in the Big 12, Kansas doesn't count. because of Aranda's pitiful understanding of O, which I said he was, and Fedora's insistence on playing CB. We are 1-5 and not one other BU QB has taken a snap this year.
Fact- CB is done. He has one read , then runs. He is no longer capable of QBing a P5 team. A 4 year starter led his team to score 16 points. It is totally illogical and unexplainable why Aranda doesn't play others. This "gives us the best chance to win " idea is ridiculous. We're losing now. At least lose with the future. The pass plays CB doesn't make are killing us.
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6:49p, 11/14/20
I don't know of we overrated our talent, but Baylor is making it look that way.
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6:50p, 11/14/20
I dont necessarily thing Charlie has to be benched, but I can't see any reason why from this point forward other QBs shouldn't be getting some significant game reps. There is nothing much left to play for this season. It has to be early prep for 2021.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
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In reply to DanaDane • 6:53p, 11/14/20
DanaDane said:
Bear8084 said:
DanaDane said:
blackie said:
BellCountyBear said:
Man, it feels like the Steele years are back.
Uh, no. You have a short memory. Steele would have lost this game by at least 20 points.

Aranda reminded me of STEAL at first, because it is readily apparent he is clueless and essentially learning on the job. But, I agree, we're not at the Steal years. Unfortunately though this staff ain't winning more than 3, maybe 4 games a year (when we get 3 non-conference creampuffs back on the schedule).


Heard this before with recent coaches...
Could you sign back into your other account on the premium side and come back with an update on Bohanon.

Thank you!


Most crystal balling absolutes after a tough loss. This board never changes. Heard the same posts all the way back to Briles.
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6:53p, 11/14/20
Fire this staff now.,,,,Anybody disagree? if u do , you're a moron...fire this staff now, and try and keep joey, he'll be gone next year...
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6:54p, 11/14/20
With that loss today will we get to pick before the Jet's?
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In reply to BUbackerinET • 6:54p, 11/14/20
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He didn't make the trip to Lubbock, and he hasn't played but for about 2 plays this year, I think there's at least a 90% chance he is portal bound, and if he doesn't play, despite being a better player (Zeno), why would he stay? Remember, Gerry was a top recruit out of Arkansas - doubt he appreciates not getting any time in this atrocious year when we need to be building experience for the long-term future of the team

I agree...both Zeno and Bohannan should have played in numerous games by now. I'm just not sure why nobody has any specific info on whether or not Bohannan is gone.
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In reply to oldbear69 • 6:55p, 11/14/20
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Fire this staff now.,,,,Anybody disagree? if u do , you're a moron...fire this staff now, and try and keep joey, he'll be gone next year...


Holy hyperbole.
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In reply to Reverend • 6:57p, 11/14/20
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Of course won't happen but Aranda should be gone. Terrible mistake. And I don't blame Rhodes. It was just a terrible mistake.
Were you one of the ones that wanted Briles gone in his second year or so, and probably definitely in 2017 concerning Rhule?

Look, for most teams in this league, outside of one or two on the top right now and then KU on the bottom, there is not a lot of difference between teams. There is little consistency. A handful of plays make a difference. When they go your way we get a season like last year, when they don't you get what we got today. We had several of these plays in this game (Brewers non-TD, the questionable holding on the last drive, the tipped pass on our last play, the non-safety, the bad luck on the Tech over the punter snap, etc.), had some last week as well. We are playing short-handed. Whether that is the coaches fault (somehow in an alternate reality) or just bad luck, it is what it is.

This season has just been a waste from the beginning from everything that has happened. It needs to end, forget it and move on and focus on the future, when you actually get a full year to plan and work. Then you can make a valid assessment.
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In reply to blackie • 6:58p, 11/14/20
blackie said:
Reverend said:
Of course won't happen but Aranda should be gone. Terrible mistake. And I don't blame Rhodes. It was just a terrible mistake.
Were you one of the ones that wanted Briles gone in his second year or so, and probably definitely in 2017 concerning Rhule?

Look, for most teams in this league, outside of one or two on the top right now and then KU on the bottom, there is not a lot of difference between teams. There is little consistency. A handful of plays make a difference. When they go your way we get a season like last year, when they don't you get what we got today. We had several of these plays in this game (Brewers, non-TD, the questionable holding on the last drive, the tipped pass on our last play, the non-safety, the bad luck on the Tech over the punter snap, etc.), had some last week as well. We are playing short-handed. Whether that is the coaches fault (somehow in an alternate reality) or just bad luck, it is what it is.

This season has just been a waste from the beginning from everything that has happened. It needs to end, forget it and move on and focus on the future, when you actually get a full year to plan and work. Then you can make a valid assessment.


This right here.
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In reply to blackie • 7:03p, 11/14/20
I've made my assessment if that's ok with you. We have a long, long road of being embarrassing. Argue away if you want to, but the excuses are BS.
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In reply to Bear8084 • 7:04p, 11/14/20
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blackie said:
Reverend said:
Of course won't happen but Aranda should be gone. Terrible mistake. And I don't blame Rhodes. It was just a terrible mistake.
Were you one of the ones that wanted Briles gone in his second year or so, and probably definitely in 2017 concerning Rhule?

Look, for most teams in this league, outside of one or two on the top right now and then KU on the bottom, there is not a lot of difference between teams. There is little consistency. A handful of plays make a difference. When they go your way we get a season like last year, when they don't you get what we got today. We had several of these plays in this game (Brewers, non-TD, the questionable holding on the last drive, the tipped pass on our last play, the non-safety, the bad luck on the Tech over the punter snap, etc.), had some last week as well. We are playing short-handed. Whether that is the coaches fault (somehow in an alternate reality) or just bad luck, it is what it is.

This season has just been a waste from the beginning from everything that has happened. It needs to end, forget it and move on and focus on the future, when you actually get a full year to plan and work. Then you can make a valid assessment.


This right here.
There's not much different between last year's team and this year's team. We won four games last year we should have lost. This is the third 1-score loss we had this season. It sucks, but we weren't great last year, we just made a couple of plays. We aren't as bad as our record this year, we just missed a couple of plays.

Get off the bandwagon, please, if you think the coaching staff should be fired. I know when a team quits on their staff. This isn't that team.

We'll see how good they can be over the next few years. Maybe we'll be great. Maybe we won't. But this year won't tell the tale. I intend to hang tough and support the team.
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7:07p, 11/14/20
Please hurry up basketball season.......
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7:10p, 11/14/20
I'm jumping off the bandwagon. Doubt I'll need to run back and jump back on. The evidence is in as far as I'm concerned. Disagree if you want keep your head in the sand.
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In reply to Reverend • 7:10p, 11/14/20
Reverend said:
I've made my assessment if that's ok with you. We have a long, long road of being embarrassing. Argue away if you want to, but the excuses are BS.
moron...
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In reply to blackie • 7:13p, 11/14/20
blackie said:
Reverend said:
Of course won't happen but Aranda should be gone. Terrible mistake. And I don't blame Rhodes. It was just a terrible mistake.
Were you one of the ones that wanted Briles gone in his second year or so, and probably definitely in 2017 concerning Rhule?

Look, for most teams in this league, outside of one or two on the top right now and then KU on the bottom, there is not a lot of difference between teams. There is little consistency. A handful of plays make a difference. When they go your way we get a season like last year, when they don't you get what we got today. We had several of these plays in this game (Brewers non-TD, the questionable holding on the last drive, the tipped pass on our last play, the non-safety, the bad luck on the Tech over the punter snap, etc.), had some last week as well. We are playing short-handed. Whether that is the coaches fault (somehow in an alternate reality) or just bad luck, it is what it is.

This season has just been a waste from the beginning from everything that has happened. It needs to end, forget it and move on and focus on the future, when you actually get a full year to plan and work. Then you can make a valid assessment.
...and then KU and BU on the bottom.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 7:20p, 11/14/20
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Bear8084 said:
blackie said:
Reverend said:
Of course won't happen but Aranda should be gone. Terrible mistake. And I don't blame Rhodes. It was just a terrible mistake.
Were you one of the ones that wanted Briles gone in his second year or so, and probably definitely in 2017 concerning Rhule?

Look, for most teams in this league, outside of one or two on the top right now and then KU on the bottom, there is not a lot of difference between teams. There is little consistency. A handful of plays make a difference. When they go your way we get a season like last year, when they don't you get what we got today. We had several of these plays in this game (Brewers, non-TD, the questionable holding on the last drive, the tipped pass on our last play, the non-safety, the bad luck on the Tech over the punter snap, etc.), had some last week as well. We are playing short-handed. Whether that is the coaches fault (somehow in an alternate reality) or just bad luck, it is what it is.

This season has just been a waste from the beginning from everything that has happened. It needs to end, forget it and move on and focus on the future, when you actually get a full year to plan and work. Then you can make a valid assessment.


This right here.
There's not much different between last year's team and this year's team. We won four games last year we should have lost. This is the third 1-score loss we had this season. It sucks, but we weren't great last year, we just made a couple of plays. We aren't as bad as our record this year, we just missed a couple of plays.

Get off the bandwagon, please, if you think the coaching staff should be fired. I know when a team quits on their staff. This isn't that team.

We'll see how good they can be over the next few years. Maybe we'll be great. Maybe we won't. But this year won't tell the tale. I intend to hang tough and support the team.
I'm supportin' 'em too, Between you and Blackie, you've got the Bull pretty well "penned up!" Sic 'Em!
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In reply to oldbear69 • 7:20p, 11/14/20
Smart reply.

Why don't you argue this isn't worse than Beall or Steele. That's your only winner,
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In reply to oldbear69 • 7:21p, 11/14/20
oldbear69 said:
Fire this staff now.,,,,Anybody disagree? if u do , you're a moron...fire this staff now, and try and keep joey, he'll be gone next year...
This is so stupid. Can we fire you?
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In reply to Reverend • 7:22p, 11/14/20
Reverend said:
I'm jumping off the bandwagon. Doubt I'll need to run back and jump back on. The evidence is in as far as I'm concerned. Disagree if you want keep your head in the sand.

'Be honest. Were you ever on board?
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 7:22p, 11/14/20
Johnny Bear said:
Please hurry up basketball season.......
Why? Yet to win a title for the men? Always a promise. Always a collapse.
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 7:23p, 11/14/20
Who the hell are you?
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In reply to Timbear • 7:28p, 11/14/20
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Fact- Baylor is officially the worst team in the Big 12, Kansas doesn't count. because of Aranda's pitiful understanding of O, which I said he was, and Fedora's insistence on playing CB. We are 1-5 and not one other BU QB has taken a snap this year.
Fact- CB is done. He has one read , then runs. He is no longer capable of QBing a P5 team. A 4 year starter led his team to score 16 points. It is totally illogical and unexplainable why Aranda doesn't play others. This "gives us the best chance to win " idea is ridiculous. We're losing now. At least lose with the future. The pass plays CB doesn't make are killing us.


The "gives us the best chance to win" thing is just an excuse. The real reason is that there is probably some locker room tension on account of the whole losing every game thing going on, and Aranda is desperately hoping that Charlie can be the glue that holds the team together.
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In reply to Reverend • 7:30p, 11/14/20
The one with 3004 posts under this user name and probably 50k posts over the last thirty years.

Everyone knows I'm Team Briles. I appreciate what Rhule did burt not what he left behind. Our defense is better.

I'm no fan of Fedora but do you realize how late coach was handed the reins? Also the lack of practice before we got started.

No one is blowing us out.

Do I like the results? No. But I hate *******s like you thinking you know what is best.
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In reply to Reverend • 7:34p, 11/14/20
Part 2. Someone who realizes that Baylor was highly competitive under one guy.

You need a QB as a frosh that can do with RGIII did. Look at OU. What Baylor did last year was simply amazing and you're just spoiled.

Give Aranda a chance. Fedora? I dunno. You can have him.
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 7:39p, 11/14/20
Counting posts is mighty impressive.

I just thought you might be some big shot who counts people on the bandwagon,

I'll compare my previous support with yours any day..

If you are some kind of big shot, I guess I should apologize for having a strongly held opinion that you don't like.
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7:44p, 11/14/20
Will Charlie Brewer play for Baylor next year? I am under the impression that COVID has caused all players to have another year of eligibility.
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In reply to Guy Noir • 7:50p, 11/14/20
Guy Noir said:
Will Charlie Brewer play for Baylor next year? I am under the impression that COVID has caused all players to have another year of eligibility.


Boy I sure hope not.
Baylor University class of 2014
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In reply to Reverend • 7:52p, 11/14/20
Big shot? Hardly. Just a long suffering fan for seven decades. It does me and you no good to continue to whine about Aranda.

Have you noticed the ultra thousands of post on the UT boards to fire Herman. They have suddenly decided he isn't so bad. Sorta.

I have faith in Rhoades. No faith whatsoever in Baylor administration or BOD. Does that clear the air with who I am?
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 7:56p, 11/14/20
Aliceinbubbleland said:
Big shot? Hardly. Just a long suffering fan for seven decades. It does me and you no good to continue to whine about Aranda.

Have you noticed the ultra thousands of post on the UT boards to fire Herman. They have suddenly decided he isn't so bad. Sorta.

I have faith in Rhoades. No faith whatsoever in Baylor administration or BOD. Does that clear the air with who I am?
7 decades? , then your're an old Moron....
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In reply to oldbear69 • 7:58p, 11/14/20
I can kick you saggy ass
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7:59p, 11/14/20
Damn these google/facebook advertising algorithms are smart. We are all on here *****ing about how bad our football team is, and at the bottom of the page I get an ad for Penn State.
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