• NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reports Cowboys OC Kellen Moore is "leaning towards" staying in Dallas to work under coach Mike McCarthy.
  SOURCE: Mike Garafolo on Twitter
  Jan 7, 2020, 6:48 PM ET
  
  

Oh boy. Just as long as I don't see his sweet little face on the sideline pretending he knows what he is doing! Lololol. He needs to stand behind the coach taking notes

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I'd personally rather have McCarthy as the Cowboys HC than Rhule. I love Rhule for Baylor but I view him as a better fit for college. I could be wrong but I think he's a much riskier hire for an NFL team.

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I think he will be very successful in the NFL. That doesn't mean he isn't a better fit for college. It would not surprise me at all if he found the NFL less fulfilling than coaching in college.

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$60M will help soothe the pain.......

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Not really. He would have more than he could spend no matter where he was. $60M does not soothe pain any more than $20M.

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And we guess you speak from experience ?

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The old 'we'.... trying to recruit on a Cowboy page when you are obviously not a Cowboy fan isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. Trying to recruit on ANY page simply shows insecurity and a lack of conviction.

Does this sound pretty accurate there z?

McCarthy brings with him a more fast-paced offense. During his final five seasons with the Packers, McCarthy's offense used a no-huddle at the rate of 21 percent of their plays. This was the third-highest use of the no-huddle during that span. This allowed Green Bay to push the tempo and camouflage their looks, creating all sorts of problems for the defense. Cowboys fans can attest to this first hand as they've watched Aaron Rodgers feed off an unprepared defense.

While McCarthy's Packers are one of the most frequent users of no-huddle, the Cowboys have only used no-huddle on nine percent of their plays since Prescott has taken over the starting quarterback gig. Look for that to change

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I'd personally rather have McCarthy as the Cowboys HC than Rhule. I love Rhule for Baylor but I view him as a better fit for college. I could be wrong but I think he's a much riskier hire for an NFL team.

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I think he will be very successful in the NFL. That doesn't mean he isn't a better fit for college. It would not surprise me at all if he found the NFL less fulfilling than coaching in college.

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$60M will help soothe the pain.......

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Not really. He would have more than he could spend no matter where he was. $60M does not soothe pain any more than $20M.

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And we guess you speak from experience ?

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The old 'we'.... trying to recruit on a Cowboy page when you are obviously not a Cowboy fan isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. Trying to recruit on ANY page simply shows insecurity and a lack of conviction.

Does this sound pretty accurate there z?

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Why, or what, in the world would make you think I'm not a Cowboys fan? Crazy

Super Bowl is coming next season. Trophy number 6 coming up.

Seriously? I think you know the answer to that or do you really not?

Please no one quote zuno, it just makes my ignoring him not work quite so well.

Lololol

A press conference has been scheduled for Wednesday at 3 pm at the Star in Frisco.

This is big. We were last in the league in Special Teams and we just hired one of the best Coaches;
Cowboys hired Rams special teams coordinator John Fassel.
It's been a nice day for the Cowboys, as they are expected to retain OC Kellen Moore and added one of the league's best special teams coordinators in Fassel. The Rams have been innovative and situationally aggressive on special teams, things the Dallas coaching staff lacked under ex-coach Jason Garrett.

RELATED: Los Angeles Rams
SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter
Jan 7, 2020, 8:18 PM ET

Mike McCarthy challenges a lot more frequently than Jason Garrett does. During his time as head coach of the Cowboys, Jason Garrett challenged 45 calls. During his time as head coach of the Packers, Mike McCarthy WON 47 challenges.

Could this be the Cowboys new coaching staff? McCarthy - Up tempo, pass on first down coach Mike Nolan - His defenses are always at the top of takeaways Jim Tomsula - His defenses are always at the top of sacks John Fassel - One of the best special teams coaches in the league

Brian at BtB did this post about the last few #17 picks, some damn nice players

San Francisco 49ers
Mike Iupati
OG
Idaho

2011
New England Patriots
Nate Solder
OT
Colorado

2012
Cincinnati Bengals
Dre Kirkpatrick
CB
Alabama
2013

Pittsburgh Steelers
Jarvis Jones
OLB
Georgia

2014
Baltimore Ravens
CJ Mosley
LB
Alabama

2015
San Francisco 49ers
Arik Armstead
DE
Oregon

2016
Atlanta Falcons
Keanu Neal
S
Florida

2017
Washington Redskins
Jonathan Allen
DE
Alabama

2018
San Diego Chargers
Derwin James
S
Florida State

2019
New York Giants
Dexter Lawrence
DT
Clemson

17: R1P17
WR JERRY JEUDY
ALABAMA

51: R2P19
DL LEKI FOTU
UTAH

82: R3P18
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

120: R4P17
CB LUQ BARCOO
SAN DIEGO STATE

164: R5P18
DL BRAVVION ROY
BAYLOR

179: R5P33
S JARED MAYDEN
ALABAMA

231: R7P17
RB ZACK MOSS
UTAH

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Seriously? I think you know the answer to that or do you really not?

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HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS !

I'm a fan.

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Seriously? I think you know the answer to that or do you really not?

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HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS !

I'm a fan.

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Yes, a fan of fecloid posts.

Jane Slater @SlaterNFL

I'm told there will be surprising announcements about this coaching staff, very little holdover from last year per a source. WR coach Sanjay Lal not expected back despite current contract. On the radar for secondary: Joe Whitt Jr. & Tony Oden. OL coach Marc Colombo still in limbo

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HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS !

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for the benefit of z:

fecaloid
(f'k-loyd),
Resembling feces.
[L. faeces, feces, + G. eidos, resemblance]
Farlex Partner Medical Dictionary Farlex 2012

and there goes z back on ignore

How Easily Could Cowboys Convert to 3-4 Defense in 2020?
by Jess HaynieJanuary 8, 2020, 1:03 pm

Massive changes are underway on the Dallas Cowboys' coaching staff in 2020. With a new head coach and defensive coordinator now in place, could a big change be coming to the defensive scheme? WIll Dallas convert to a 3-4 defense this year, and how easily can that happen given the current roster?

Mike Nolan has been named as the new coordinator this year and his primary background in the NFL has been using the 3-4 scheme. In case you're unfamiliar, this refers to the base formation of personnel among the defensive linemen and linebackers.

In the 4-3 scheme, which Dallas has employed since 2013, there are four defensive linemen and three linebackers in the front seven. The 3-4 flips those numbers; three linemen and four linebackers.

Dallas used the 3-4 defense from 2003-2012. It was initially installed by Bill Parcells and continued by Wade Phillips. However, after two years of Rob Ryan's work, the Cowboys chose to bring in Monte Kiffin and Rod Marinelli to switch back to the traditional 4-3 scheme.

Mike Nolan has worked with both schemes, having run a 4-3 defense during his time with the Atlanta Falcons from 2012-2014. He has spent the last three years as the linebackers coach for the New Orleans Saints, who also use a 4-3 scheme.

Still, Nolan's primarily considered a 3-4 guy. So if new Dallas Head Coach Mike McCarthy is bringing him in to lead a scheme change, how quickly can the Cowboys make that switch with their current players?

A significant factor in this is who is actually under contract for 2020, which a big issue for the Cowboys across the board this offseason. The massive list of free agents could also mean a perfect environment for changing schemes.

UNDER CONTRACT
DE DeMarcus Lawrence
DE Dorance Armstrong
DE Joe Jackson
DE Randy Gregory (SUSP)
DE Jalen Jelks
DL Tyrone Crawford
DL Daniel Wise
DT Trysten Hill
LB Jaylon Smith
LB Leighton Vander Esch
LB Luke Gifford

FREE AGENTS
LB Chris Covington
DE Robert Quinn
DE Michael Bennett
DE Kerry Hyder
DT Maliek Collins
DT Antwaun Woods (ERFA)
DT Christian Covington
DT Daniel Ross (RFA)
LB Sean Lee
LB Joe Thomas
LB Justin March
LB Malcolm Smith
LB Ray-Ray Armstrong

The first player you have to talk about is DeMarcus Lawrence, who just got a massive new contract last year. Can Tank make the conversion to being an outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme?

No, Lawrence isn't as versatile as a Von Miller or Khalil Mack. He's probably not the guy you want occasionally dropping back into coverage. But he could easily be the strong-side 3-4 LB much like Antony Spencer was for the Cowboys. He would still get to attack the right tackles and play a key role in run defense, where DeMarcus currently excels.

An interesting figure here is Jaylon Smith. Would he play inside linebacker or move to that weak side OLB? Jaylon has legit pass-rushing skills but are they good enough to make that a more heavy portion of his workload?

Centerpiece Leighton Vander Esch works in any scheme and would be great in an inside linebacker role in the 3-4. The question would be who plays beside him; do you re-sign either Sean Lee or Joe Thomas for that spot? Or is that where you prefer to play Jaylon Smith and using someone different as a pass rusher?

The linebackers are actually the easier transition. It's the defensive line where you'd have some big moves to make, and an especially interesting decision with veteran Tyrone Crawford.

Nobody would've expected Crawford to return in 2020 given his reduced role and increasing contract. Tyrone is set to count $9.1 million against the cap and Dallas can save $8 million of that by cutting him.

But if the Cowboys wind up moving to a 3-4 scheme then Crawford may suddenly have increased value. He started in the league in 2012 when Dallas still ran that defense and was brought in originally as a 3-4 defensive end.

However, Dallas could very well take that $8 million in cap space and sign two or even three rotation players. That might be the better value in the end.

The switch would definitely benefit some guys and hurt others. For example, smallish DE Dorance Armstrong could be a nice candidate for converting to a 3-4 OLB. But would Robert Quinn or Michael Bennett, who were great additions in 2019, now be worth bringing back?

Christian Covington's experience as a 3-4 DE in Houston would make him a smart player to re-sign. But on the other hand, changing schemes would make it even less likely that Dallas would bring back Maliek Collins or Antwaun Woods.

And of course, what about Randy Gregory? If he's ready to finally make his NFL return, the athletic pass rusher might be a nice fit as an edge rusher. But Randy's return timetable, if one even exists, is a mystery nobody can solve right now.

There would clearly be a lot of work to do. Thankfully, even after they re-sign key free agents like QB Dak Prescott, WR Amari Cooper, and CB Byron Jones, Dallas should have all the cap space and draft picks necessary to retool the defense.

Clearly, some new faces would have to be brought in. A true nose tackle would be a must and probably either a pass rusher or an inside linebacker depending on where they use Jaylon. But thanks to foundation pieces like Smith, Lawrence, and Vander Esch the task is far from impossible.

Even if the Cowboys ultimately stick to the 4-3 defense there are still plenty of moves needed with all of these free agents. We'll find out soon just how drastic the changes could be.

17: R1P17
LB ISAIAH SIMMONS
CLEMSON

51: R2P19
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

82: R3P18
TE HUNTER BRYANT
WASHINGTON

120: R4P17
WR BRYAN EDWARDS
SOUTH CAROLINA

164: R5P18
DL RAEQUAN WILLIAMS
MICHIGAN STATE

179: R5P33
CB ESSANG BASSEY
WAKE FOREST

231: R7P17
DL ROBERT LANDERS
OHIO STATE

Why did you go heavy early on LB? Is that 3-4 driven?

Also look this guy up...
CB LUQ BARCOO

Yeah

Good opening press conference by McCarthy...and its clear he has command of his staff and who is on it.

17: R1P17
CB KRISTIAN FULTON
LSU

51: R2P19
S ANTOINE WINFIELD
MINNESOTA

82: R3P18
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

120: R4P17
DL AUBREY SOLOMON
TENNESSEE

164: R5P18
DL BRAVVION ROY
BAYLOR

179: R5P33
CB JEFF GLADNEY
TCU

231: R7P17
RB ZACK MOSS
UTAH

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CB KRISTIAN FULTON
LSU

51: R2P19
S ANTOINE WINFIELD
MINNESOTA

82: R3P18
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

120: R4P17
DL AUBREY SOLOMON
TENNESSEE

164: R5P18
DL BRAVVION ROY
BAYLOR

179: R5P33
CB JEFF GLADNEY
TCU

231: R7P17
RB ZACK MOSS
UTAH

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No way on earth we can afford to be that defense heavy in the draft

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17: R1P17
CB KRISTIAN FULTON
LSU

51: R2P19
S ANTOINE WINFIELD
MINNESOTA

82: R3P18
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

120: R4P17
DL AUBREY SOLOMON
TENNESSEE

164: R5P18
DL BRAVVION ROY
BAYLOR

179: R5P33
CB JEFF GLADNEY
TCU

231: R7P17
RB ZACK MOSS
UTAH

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No way on earth we can afford to be that defense heavy in the draft

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No way we can't afford to.

You have multiple CBs off contract, no real DT, no play making safety, and if you are going to run some 3-4 no great pass rushing LB.

Meantime on offense, you have a QB, RBs, WRs (Cooper might get tagged and Cobb is staying), and the OL ia still good as is. What do you need to draft on offense?

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17: R1P17
CB KRISTIAN FULTON
LSU

51: R2P19
S ANTOINE WINFIELD
MINNESOTA

82: R3P18
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

120: R4P17
DL AUBREY SOLOMON
TENNESSEE

164: R5P18
DL BRAVVION ROY
BAYLOR

179: R5P33
CB JEFF GLADNEY
TCU

231: R7P17
RB ZACK MOSS
UTAH

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No way on earth we can afford to be that defense heavy in the draft

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No way we can't afford to.

You have multiple CBs off contract, no real DT, no play making safety, and if you are going to run some 3-4 no great pass rushing LB.

Meantime on offense, you have a QB, RBs, WRs (Cooper might get tagged and Cobb is staying), and the OL ia still good as is. What do you need to draft on offense?

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Still too much money to pay everyone. The OL is getting older (gotta start looking for a Tyron Smith replacement), WR position is not locked down, and a host of other things.

Just saying, you're not going to draft 7 defensive and 1 offensive player. Some of the defensive players will come via FA or trade.

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Why did you go heavy early on LB? Is that 3-4 driven?

Also look this guy up...
CB LUQ BARCOO

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Absolutely, plus the fact both our starters are 're-constructed' One bad tackle away from end of career.

And I would guess Sean Lee is getting ready to set sail away.

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17: R1P17
CB KRISTIAN FULTON
LSU

51: R2P19
S ANTOINE WINFIELD
MINNESOTA

82: R3P18
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

120: R4P17
DL AUBREY SOLOMON
TENNESSEE

164: R5P18
DL BRAVVION ROY
BAYLOR

179: R5P33
CB JEFF GLADNEY
TCU

231: R7P17
RB ZACK MOSS
UTAH

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No way on earth we can afford to be that defense heavy in the draft

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No way we can't afford to.

You have multiple CBs off contract, no real DT, no play making safety, and if you are going to run some 3-4 no great pass rushing LB.

Meantime on offense, you have a QB, RBs, WRs (Cooper might get tagged and Cobb is staying), and the OL ia still good as is. What do you need to draft on offense?

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Still too much money to pay everyone. The OL is getting older (gotta start looking for a Tyron Smith replacement), WR position is not locked down, and a host of other things.

Just saying, you're not going to draft 7 defensive and 1 offensive player. Some of the defensive players will come via FA or trade.

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First of all keep in mind I took the best player available as the draft fell at a position of need. That said, lets address your offense comments. No one of the starters on the offensive line is older than 29 so this OL isn't old. As for Tyron, understand he is pretty banged up but I would offer that his replacement is likely already on the roster in Connor Williams who has been playing out of position. You also forget we drafted McGovern last year who is projected to be a stud OG who would slot in at LG to take Connor's spot. Ok, as for WR the Cowboys pretty much tipped their hand on Randal Cobb at the McCarthy press conference...they will resign him. Cooper they said as much too. Meanwhile you have Byron Jones, Anthony Brown, Malik Collins, Bennett, Shaun Lee, and Quinn among others on defense all with expiring contacts. You aren't paying all of those guys and you aren't replacing all via free agency, not to mention you don't have a real NT on this roster and your safety position has been underwhelming. Given that, I do see us going heavy defense...

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17: R1P17
CB KRISTIAN FULTON
LSU

51: R2P19
S ANTOINE WINFIELD
MINNESOTA

82: R3P18
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

120: R4P17
DL AUBREY SOLOMON
TENNESSEE

164: R5P18
DL BRAVVION ROY
BAYLOR

179: R5P33
CB JEFF GLADNEY
TCU

231: R7P17
RB ZACK MOSS
UTAH

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No way on earth we can afford to be that defense heavy in the draft

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No way we can't afford to.

You have multiple CBs off contract, no real DT, no play making safety, and if you are going to run some 3-4 no great pass rushing LB.

Meantime on offense, you have a QB, RBs, WRs (Cooper might get tagged and Cobb is staying), and the OL ia still good as is. What do you need to draft on offense?

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Still too much money to pay everyone. The OL is getting older (gotta start looking for a Tyron Smith replacement), WR position is not locked down, and a host of other things.

Just saying, you're not going to draft 7 defensive and 1 offensive player. Some of the defensive players will come via FA or trade.

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First of all keep in mind I took the best player available as the draft fell at a position of need. That said, lets address your offense comments. No one of the starters on the offensive line is older than 29 so this OL isn't old. As for Tyron, understand he is pretty banged up but I would offer that his replacement is likely already on the roster in Connor Williams who has been playing out of position. You also forget we drafted McGovern last year who is projected to be a stud OG who would slot in at LG to take Connor's spot. Ok, as for WR the Cowboys pretty much tipped their hand on Randal Cobb at the McCarthy press conference...they will resign him. Cooper they said as much too. Meanwhile you have Byron Jones, Anthony Brown, Malik Collins, Bennett, Shaun Lee, and Quinn among others on defense all with expiring contacts. You aren't paying all of those guys and you aren't replacing all via free agency, not to mention you don't have a real NT on this roster and your safety position has been underwhelming. Given that, I do see us going heavy defense...

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I didn't forget anything regarding the OL you mentioned. What you seem to forget is that Connor has been hurt both years, yes, while playing out of position. McGovern didn't make it to training camp with his injury. Tyron is 'young' but next year is his 11th season and he's had chronic ailments for 5 years.

The Cowboys can cut Tyron and save a boatload of money this summer, and they may do it. Cobb likely re-signs, but he's got 1, maybe 2 years left and at 4-5x what a top flight draft pick would cost

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17: R1P17
CB KRISTIAN FULTON
LSU

51: R2P19
S ANTOINE WINFIELD
MINNESOTA

82: R3P18
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN

120: R4P17
DL AUBREY SOLOMON
TENNESSEE

164: R5P18
DL BRAVVION ROY
BAYLOR

179: R5P33
CB JEFF GLADNEY
TCU

231: R7P17
RB ZACK MOSS
UTAH

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No way on earth we can afford to be that defense heavy in the draft

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I would devote our entire draft to D unless we can find a OT

Too many great receivers in this draft to not find value there at some point.