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Baylor has the right to decide who will be an employee. I don't have any problem with them firing Briles (buying out his contract or whatever) as long as they are forthright and honest about why they are doing it. We have seen a variety of double talk from the institution ever since they started to talk.

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This whole production has been very Clintonesque.

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The pants down perjury type Clinton or Blow a shoe in election Clinton?

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Primarily the former, with elements of the latter.

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so would you agree that these "victims" are just liars who are taking advantage of this scandal to get paid?

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Based on the lack of police reports and criminal charges, it seems that the majority of these victims prefer to take their grievances to a Title IX hearing for a financial settlement rather than a criminal court where the alleged perp is put in prison.

Make of that what you will.

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Mr. Goodbear said:

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How do I link from the twitter app?

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Similar to the way you quote on this forum on mobile , there is a down arrow on the upper right of the tweet. Touch it and choose copy link. Then paste the link in your post if using mobile, which I assume since you are using an app.

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well if you click clay travis there and scroll down you see BTB, which is Sarah

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She must have taken it down. I scrolled through the comments and couldn't find it.

Looks like the same team was looking at bringing in JFF too...

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so would you agree that these "victims" are just liars who are taking advantage of this scandal to get paid?

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Based on the lack of police reports and criminal charges, it seems that the majority of these victims prefer to take their grievances to a Title IX hearing for a financial settlement rather than a criminal court where the alleged perp is put in prison.

Make of that what you will.

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Settlements are occurring because they were not given proper opportunity to air their Title IX grievances.

Criminal part not relevant. Do Title IX right there is no liability, no settlements.

Keyser Soze said:

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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so would you agree that these "victims" are just liars who are taking advantage of this scandal to get paid?

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Based on the lack of police reports and criminal charges, it seems that the majority of these victims prefer to take their grievances to a Title IX hearing for a financial settlement rather than a criminal court where the alleged perp is put in prison.

Make of that what you will.

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Settlements are occurring because they were not given proper opportunity to air their Title IX grievances.

Criminal part not relevant. Do Title IX right there is no liability, no settlements.

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But there are still lawsuits.

Keyser Soze said:

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Applemac_G4 said:

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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so would you agree that these "victims" are just liars who are taking advantage of this scandal to get paid?

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Based on the lack of police reports and criminal charges, it seems that the majority of these victims prefer to take their grievances to a Title IX hearing for a financial settlement rather than a criminal court where the alleged perp is put in prison.

Make of that what you will.

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Settlements are occurring because they were not given proper opportunity to air their Title IX grievances.

Criminal part not relevant. Do Title IX right there is no liability, no settlements.

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Even those who have allegedly done Title IX "right" face potential liability, because if they do it "right" for one party, they expose themselves to liability from the other party.

D. C. Bear said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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That must be a pretty secret letter if the only people talking about it right now are someone in his family and some guy who coaches football in Sour Lake, Texas.

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To be fair, The TiCats GM mentioned it in a radio interview as well.

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Interesting.

Yet they still melted in the social media SJWs.

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At least their league did.

This is yet another reason why Baylor should have released the facts behind their actions in removing Starr, Briles, McCaw etc. The truth is your friend.

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ive been saying it for years they were fired because of the fake news media! simple as that!

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Baylor has the right to decide who will be an employee. I don't have any problem with them firing Briles (buying out his contract or whatever) as long as they are forthright and honest about why they are doing it. We have seen a variety of double talk from the institution ever since they started to talk.

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if you dont have a reason to fire somebody how can you be honest about firing them? what would you do?? ill tell you what baylor did they hired a pr firm to tell them what to tell the public. it took them 6 months

Malbec said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Applemac_G4 said:

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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so would you agree that these "victims" are just liars who are taking advantage of this scandal to get paid?

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Based on the lack of police reports and criminal charges, it seems that the majority of these victims prefer to take their grievances to a Title IX hearing for a financial settlement rather than a criminal court where the alleged perp is put in prison.

Make of that what you will.

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Settlements are occurring because they were not given proper opportunity to air their Title IX grievances.

Criminal part not relevant. Do Title IX right there is no liability, no settlements.

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But there are still lawsuits.

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Are we saying Shakespeare was right?

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Applemac_G4 said:

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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so would you agree that these "victims" are just liars who are taking advantage of this scandal to get paid?

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Based on the lack of police reports and criminal charges, it seems that the majority of these victims prefer to take their grievances to a Title IX hearing for a financial settlement rather than a criminal court where the alleged perp is put in prison.

Make of that what you will.

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Settlements are occurring because they were not given proper opportunity to air their Title IX grievances.

Criminal part not relevant. Do Title IX right there is no liability, no settlements.

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they did it right they came to a conclusion based on a preponderance of the evidence presented to them. money grab central!

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Malbec said:

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LBKBEAR said:

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That must be a pretty secret letter if the only people talking about it right now are someone in his family and some guy who coaches football in Sour Lake, Texas.

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To be fair, The TiCats GM mentioned it in a radio interview as well.

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Interesting.

Yet they still melted in the social media SJWs.

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At least their league did.

This is yet another reason why Baylor should have released the facts behind their actions in removing Starr, Briles, McCaw etc. The truth is your friend.

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ive been saying it for years they were fired because of the fake news media! simple as that!

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Baylor has the right to decide who will be an employee. I don't have any problem with them firing Briles (buying out his contract or whatever) as long as they are forthright and honest about why they are doing it. We have seen a variety of double talk from the institution ever since they started to talk.

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if you dont have a reason to fire somebody how can you be honest about firing them? what would you do?? ill tell you what baylor did they hired a pr firm to tell them what to tell the public. it took them 6 months

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They hire Bunting after they did most of the firings. You would think before

Briles has hired some ****ty attorneys

Bearwitness8223 said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Malbec said:

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LBKBEAR said:

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That must be a pretty secret letter if the only people talking about it right now are someone in his family and some guy who coaches football in Sour Lake, Texas.

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To be fair, The TiCats GM mentioned it in a radio interview as well.

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Interesting.

Yet they still melted in the social media SJWs.

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At least their league did.

This is yet another reason why Baylor should have released the facts behind their actions in removing Starr, Briles, McCaw etc. The truth is your friend.

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ive been saying it for years they were fired because of the fake news media! simple as that!

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Baylor has the right to decide who will be an employee. I don't have any problem with them firing Briles (buying out his contract or whatever) as long as they are forthright and honest about why they are doing it. We have seen a variety of double talk from the institution ever since they started to talk.

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if you dont have a reason to fire somebody how can you be honest about firing them? what would you do?? ill tell you what baylor did they hired a pr firm to tell them what to tell the public. it took them 6 months

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You may not have a legal cause to terminate a contract, but you may decide that the way someone is doing the job is not the way you want them doing the job and you are within your rights to remove that person from the job. If that is what happened, Baylor needed to say it, just as they needed to say if they had legal justification for terminating a contract. They also needed to do it at the same time they announced the personnel changes.

Keyser Soze said:

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Bearwitness8223 said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Malbec said:

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LBKBEAR said:

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That must be a pretty secret letter if the only people talking about it right now are someone in his family and some guy who coaches football in Sour Lake, Texas.

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To be fair, The TiCats GM mentioned it in a radio interview as well.

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Interesting.

Yet they still melted in the social media SJWs.

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At least their league did.

This is yet another reason why Baylor should have released the facts behind their actions in removing Starr, Briles, McCaw etc. The truth is your friend.

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ive been saying it for years they were fired because of the fake news media! simple as that!

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Baylor has the right to decide who will be an employee. I don't have any problem with them firing Briles (buying out his contract or whatever) as long as they are forthright and honest about why they are doing it. We have seen a variety of double talk from the institution ever since they started to talk.

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if you dont have a reason to fire somebody how can you be honest about firing them? what would you do?? ill tell you what baylor did they hired a pr firm to tell them what to tell the public. it took them 6 months

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They hire Bunting after they did most of the firings. You would think before

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baylor regents in aug 2015: there has to have been a cover up lets get to the bottom of this and see whos guilty both in the administration and in football
top 3 baylor regents halfway through the investigation: damn its looking like there actually was no cover up i have an idea lets scapegoat briles and foortball and change our relationship to attorney client because i know people will try to sue us if we say we failed.
when the ph lawyers presented the one sided facts and didnt interview the accused: ok now we all know that there was no cover up
regents: ok we know briles didnt cover anything up but the media is gonna kill us if we keep him, lets vote to see if we want to keep him.
top 3 regents: lets write a finding of selective facts and opinions that blames football.
2 months after they fired briles demoted starr and sanctioned ian: damn pressure is building up and people want to know why we fired briles. i know lets hire a pr firm and see how they can blame briles and make him look guilty.
6 months after they fired briles: briles was fired for failing to report an alleged sexual assault.

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so would you agree that these "victims" are just liars who are taking advantage of this scandal to get paid?

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Based on the lack of police reports and criminal charges, it seems that the majority of these victims prefer to take their grievances to a Title IX hearing for a financial settlement rather than a criminal court where the alleged perp is put in prison.

Make of that what you will.

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Settlements are occurring because they were not given proper opportunity to air their Title IX grievances.

Criminal part not relevant. Do Title IX right there is no liability, no settlements.

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But there are still lawsuits.

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Are we saying Shakespeare was right?

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Yes, all of them except mine.

They probably wish they could stop returning his calls.
Look at these losers. Don't they realize every potential employer watched them tear out of Baylor, kicking and screaming like Section 8 renters? I bet this latest episode has KB drinking and driving again.

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Malbec said:

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LBKBEAR said:

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That must be a pretty secret letter if the only people talking about it right now are someone in his family and some guy who coaches football in Sour Lake, Texas.

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To be fair, The TiCats GM mentioned it in a radio interview as well.

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Interesting.

Yet they still melted in the social media SJWs.

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At least their league did.

This is yet another reason why Baylor should have released the facts behind their actions in removing Starr, Briles, McCaw etc. The truth is your friend.

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ive been saying it for years they were fired because of the fake news media! simple as that!

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Baylor has the right to decide who will be an employee. I don't have any problem with them firing Briles (buying out his contract or whatever) as long as they are forthright and honest about why they are doing it. We have seen a variety of double talk from the institution ever since they started to talk.

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if you dont have a reason to fire somebody how can you be honest about firing them? what would you do?? ill tell you what baylor did they hired a pr firm to tell them what to tell the public. it took them 6 months

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You may not have a legal cause to terminate a contract, but you may decide that the way someone is doing the job is not the way you want them doing the job and you are within your rights to remove that person from the job. If that is what happened, Baylor needed to say it, just as they needed to say if they had legal justification for terminating a contract. They also needed to do it at the same time they announced the personnel changes.

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firing somebody illegaly is one thing falsely accusing them is another. briles took the money signed his nda in hopes of moving on but these regents just couldnt keep their lying mouths shut

Nice job showing up to Rice. Whose idea was that episode? Look how it turned out. They were blown away after Rice.


Remember Sarah, PUNT!

A good doctor can save your life
A good preacher can save your soul
and a good lawyer can save your ass

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Nice job showing up to Rice. Whose idea was that episodes? Look how it turned out. They were blown away after Rice.


Remember Sarah, PUNT!

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lol what are you even talking about?? did you happen to be part of the movement in charlotsville? seems like a crowd you would fit perfectly in

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A good doctor can save your life
A good preacher can save your soul
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A great lawyer will save your ass, a good lawyer will bring you some lube, and a bad lawyer will ask you how much and for how long did your ass hurt.

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How do I link from the twitter app?

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Similar to the way you quote on this forum on mobile , there is a down arrow on the upper right of the tweet. Touch it and choose copy link. Then paste the link in your post if using mobile, which I assume since you are using an app.

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well if you click clay travis there and scroll down you see BTB, which is Sarah

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She must have taken it down. I scrolled through the comments and couldn't find it.

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Still there
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwJWksxQ5te8blFTbk01WVBVeWM

She needs to punt. Her actions are hurting Art.
Here comes the race card.
BW, Art is white. No racism here but I bet a bunch of white folks wish he wasn't white. This episode is embarrassing across all racial lines.

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How do I link from the twitter app?

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Similar to the way you quote on this forum on mobile , there is a down arrow on the upper right of the tweet. Touch it and choose copy link. Then paste the link in your post if using mobile, which I assume since you are using an app.

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well if you click clay travis there and scroll down you see BTB, which is Sarah

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She must have taken it down. I scrolled through the comments and couldn't find it.

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Still there
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwJWksxQ5te8blFTbk01WVBVeWM

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Thanks

I think this may be a transcript of the interview Malbec was referencing re: the TiCat CEO defending the Briles hire. Clearly, the lynch mob ran over him, but some interesting blurbs in here.

https://3downnation.com/2017/08/28/ticats-ceo-scott-mitchell-defends-hiring-art-briles/

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I think this may be a transcript of the interview Malbec was referencing re: the TiCat CEO defending the Briles hire. Clearly, the lynch mob ran over him, but some interesting blurbs in here.

https://3downnation.com/2017/08/28/ticats-ceo-scott-mitchell-defends-hiring-art-briles/

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Here's a quote from the interview:

Reporter: "DE: Baylor did find that Briles and the football administration was responsible for a culture that covered up alleged sexual assaults."

Team CEO: "I think there's a plethora of information that is not necessarily in the public realm and I think it's dangerous to comment on what's out there because some of it might be accurate but a lot of it isn't accurate as to what exactly occurred. We've done our due diligence from a legal perspective, we understand what the findings were and in many cases, those are different than what's been discussed in the media."
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Shocking, isn't it?

Not really shocking. They have to cover their asses. Wait till the coaches and GM get fired after the season. If they were doing a good job, they wouldn't be hiring Briles.
Briles is finally batting 1.000 on something. He is 2 for 2 on getting hired by the worst team in the professional leagues.

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Not really shocking. They have to cover their asses. Wait till the coaches and GM get fired after the season. If they were doing a good job, they wouldn't be hiring Briles.
Briles is finally batting 1.000 on something. He is 2 for 2 on getting hired by the worst team in the professional leagues.

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Fix your sarcasm meter.

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xiledinok said:

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Not really shocking. They have to cover their asses. Wait till the coaches and GM get fired after the season. If they were doing a good job, they wouldn't be hiring Briles.
Briles is finally batting 1.000 on something. He is 2 for 2 on getting hired by the worst team in the professional leagues.

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Fix your sarcasm meter.

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I nailed it. I figured you would be shocked. Clearly, a bunch of people like Malbec were shocked.
Mickey Mantle would be proud he tried to be a hit for both the Browns and the Cats. Both last place teams in their leagues.
A winless team with June Jones isn't going to draw any real football fan. Their GM gets canned for bringing in June and shunned by the CFL (an NFL partner).
Where are Art's lawyers to tell us he is getting another job "soon" as described last week?
Art could be holding out for a vacant poor public schools coaching vacancy in Oklahoma. They ll need him in January. They won't over pay and what subject does he teach?

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And she'd better be very careful because I'd be willing to be that the confidentiality portion of that agreement says that you can't reveal the terms of the deal.

And stop already with the "you don't pay a guilty guy $15MM." That's just childish. There are TONS of very guilty people that get settlements. Sometimes the institution is buying their way out of a fight because the fight would make both sides look bad.

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and since youre on the railroad briles train if hes guilty why did it take the regents 6 months to say why he was fired? why didnt they just say he did this and terminate his contract and not pay him a dime?? ill be waiting for your answer.

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Are you kidding? There was an investigation going on, at least three law-firms involved, at least two PR firms, the regular staff, global decisions about who needed to stay and go, almost total turnover of staff on the primary revenue generating sport, termination of the AD, potential termination of the President, all of this to be decided on by 30ish regents, all of whom had other full-time jobs. I'm amazed it got done that fast. As far as why to pay a guy that may have deserved termination and no money, I suspect that they thought that they were buying some silence.

You seem to have an odd, inconsistent view about financial and non-financial motivations for settlement. For example, you claim that paying Briles and settling with him instead of terminating MUST mean that Briles was 100% innocent, but you don't seem to be willing to think that Briles accepting the termination of his employment, taking the $ and agreeing to be quiet instead of fighting to prove his innocence means that he may have had something to feel guilty about.

I think the more likely situation is that both sides had a lot not to be proud of and both thought that severing the relationship is as confidential a way as possible would be best. Both sides wanted the noise to die down quickly so that (1) Baylor could get on with rebuilding the program, and (2) Briles could start looking for his next gig.

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you seem to have your facts distorted which doesnt suprise me. 1 mccaw wasnt fired he resigned 2. thats not what i said i said why are you paying someone 20 m if they are guilty of what youre saying they are and 3 dont give me that bull**** baylor had all the facts of the ph report right in front of them if they had a reason to truly fire him they would have announced it and not paid him a damn dime. youre a moron if you think otherwise

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Right ...
So Baylor is morally challenged in your eyes by settling with liars (girls). But Baylor has zero other reasons to settle eith Briles than to prove Briles free of fault. Again, right ...

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Not really shocking. They have to cover their asses. Wait till the coaches and GM get fired after the season. If they were doing a good job, they wouldn't be hiring Briles.
Briles is finally batting 1.000 on something. He is 2 for 2 on getting hired by the worst team in the professional leagues.

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Fix your sarcasm meter.

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I nailed it. I figured you would be shocked. Clearly, a bunch of people like Malbec were shocked.
Mickey Mantle would be proud he tried to be a hit for both the Browns and the Cats. Both last place teams in their leagues.
A winless team with June Jones isn't going to draw any real football fan. Their GM gets canned for bringing in June and shunned by the CFL (an NFL partner).
Where are Art's lawyers to tell us he is getting another job "soon" as described last week?
Art could be holding out for a vacant poor public schools coaching vacancy in Oklahoma. They ll need him in January. They won't over pay and what subject does he teach?

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Are you drunk? Serious question.

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Damn straight. See Mike Leach and TT. He got zero.

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Tech should've just kissed Mike Leach's ass the same way they kissed Bob Knight's ass.

Sure, Mike got drunk at Flatlander's from time to time, but he is authentic, intelligent and had a great thing going at Tech.

Some people see Art Briles as the architect of the fast, no-huddle offense, but Art really learned a good deal of it from the Pirate.

Mike Leach is about as authentic of a human being as I have ever met - and he could get away with it. He just didn't have run of the university like Bob Knight did.

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I think this may be a transcript of the interview Malbec was referencing re: the TiCat CEO defending the Briles hire. Clearly, the lynch mob ran over him, but some interesting blurbs in here.

https://3downnation.com/2017/08/28/ticats-ceo-scott-mitchell-defends-hiring-art-briles/

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Here's a quote from the interview:

Reporter: "DE: Baylor did find that Briles and the football administration was responsible for a culture that covered up alleged sexual assaults."

Team CEO: "I think there's a plethora of information that is not necessarily in the public realm and I think it's dangerous to comment on what's out there because some of it might be accurate but a lot of it isn't accurate as to what exactly occurred. We've done our due diligence from a legal perspective, we understand what the findings were and in many cases, those are different than what's been discussed in the media."
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Shocking, isn't it?

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Sounds similar to what we were hearing out of Liberty when they brought in Ian.

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xiledinok said:

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xiledinok said:

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Not really shocking. They have to cover their asses. Wait till the coaches and GM get fired after the season. If they were doing a good job, they wouldn't be hiring Briles.
Briles is finally batting 1.000 on something. He is 2 for 2 on getting hired by the worst team in the professional leagues.

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Fix your sarcasm meter.

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I nailed it. I figured you would be shocked. Clearly, a bunch of people like Malbec were shocked.
Mickey Mantle would be proud he tried to be a hit for both the Browns and the Cats. Both last place teams in their leagues.
A winless team with June Jones isn't going to draw any real football fan. Their GM gets canned for bringing in June and shunned by the CFL (an NFL partner).
Where are Art's lawyers to tell us he is getting another job "soon" as described last week?
Art could be holding out for a vacant poor public schools coaching vacancy in Oklahoma. They ll need him in January. They won't over pay and what subject does he teach?

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Are you drunk? Serious question.

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No, scattershooting ideas on what is next for Art? If he cared about children, those poor school teaching vacancies would clean up his image.
Are you drunk? What has you always defending Art? He walked away with millions. Can't he handle the fact that when he received the generous settlement check things were over for him coaching places where tv cameras are turned on for recording games?
What poor advice he received or he is one ignorant poor planner outside of the football field.