FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Watching this KSU/ISU game...we've got some really good teams in this conference. We may not have elite teams but we've got 4 or 5 really good and tough teams.

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. Bowl season should bear that out.

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Half our teams have 8 wins or more. I'll be really disappointed if those teams don't win more than half their bowl games.

Buddy scored some tickets from a drunk guy for 10$!! Wife and I live a snowballs throw from the stadium. Ran over and attended the game. Only made it to HT tonight. Was severely under dressed for this one

IowaBear said:

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Buddy scored some tickets from a drunk guy for 10$!! Wife and I live a snowballs throw from the stadium. Ran over and attended the game. Only made it to HT tonight. Was severely under dressed for this one

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The conditions look brutal from my warm couch with my Balcones

Was 22 degrees at kick. Like 19 when I left. Not terrible for Iowa. Definitely should have dressed warmer. But was in a hurry. Scalped em from the guy mere minutes before kick

Ok....I believe this is where things stand now. BYU has been knocked out. ASU is in. It's about whether it's CU or ISU.

If UH beats BYU then CU gets in...if the Mormons win then ISU gets in.

I think that's correct. I expect BYU will win at home. They just took the lead: 14-10

Looks like we will finish 5th in the Big12 considering tiebreakers.

This is what I see also. AZ St vs CU (Houston win) or ISU (BYU win).

Considering how the first half of the season looked, that's very good.

well, preseason polls aren't worth a bottle of ****. Ha ha ha

2024 Big 12 Football Media Preseason Poll
1. Utah (20) 906
2. Kansas State (19) 889
3. Oklahoma State (14) 829
4. Kansas (5) 772
5. Arizona (3) 762
6. Iowa State 661
7. West Virginia 581
8. UCF 551
9. Texas Tech 532
10. TCU 436
11. Colorado 400
12. Baylor 268
13. BYU 215
14. Cincinnati 196
15. Houston 157
16. Arizona State 141

historian said:

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I think that's correct. I expect BYU will win at home. They just took the lead: 14-10

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BYU should definitely win that at home. Only issue might be if some disappointment sets in knowing a win doesn't get them into the title game.

I would like to see UH upset BYU and let CU into the title game just for the entertainment value.

A lot of people will agree with you but it's very unlikely.

Of the top seven in the Big 12 standings, only Iowa State was picked to finish in the top seven. https://t.co/6T24f9ZdCV

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) December 1, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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Watching this KSU/ISU game...we've got some really good teams in this conference. We may not have elite teams but we've got 4 or 5 really good and tough teams.

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Honestly, at this point, I think this league is nine deep with good teams -- and one of them (Kansas) missed a bowl game.

Obviously, Arizona State, Iowa State, BYU and Colorado make up the upper crust this year, but Baylor, TCU, Tech and Kansas State all proved to be tough outs, too.

I spent much of the early part of this season calling this a mediocre league, but I think it turned out to be much stronger than I originally thought. And the three Texas schools had a lot to do with that. All of them got better and better as the year went on.

IowaBear said:

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Buddy scored some tickets from a drunk guy for 10$!! Wife and I live a snowballs throw from the stadium. Ran over and attended the game. Only made it to HT tonight. Was severely under dressed for this one

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It looked freezing on TV. Those are tough games to make it through if you don't wear enough layers. Covering high school games from the field, I've spent many a second half with frozen hands and feet, wishing I could head home early. In Texas, though, you only have a few weeks like that, and they almost all come in the playoffs.

Iowa weather is usually tolerable until the last few weeks. I usually do ok in the stands for the colder ones. My senior year of HS we played a mid November playoff game in 8 inches of snow. If I remember it was 17 degrees ish at kick. Coldest 2 hrs of my life.

FINAL BIG 12 STANDINGS
(Preseason Poll Ranking in parenthesis)

1 Arizona State (16)
2 Iowa State (6)
3 BYU (13)
4 Colorado (11)
5 Baylor (12)
6 TCU (10)
7 Texas Tech (9)
8 Kansas State (2)
9 West Virginia (7)
10 Kansas (4)
11 Cincinnati (14)
12 Houston (15)
13 Utah (1)
14…

— parker fleming (@statsowar) December 1, 2024

Jack Bauer said:

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well, preseason polls aren't worth a bottle of ****. Ha ha ha

2024 Big 12 Football Media Preseason Poll
1. Utah (20) 906
2. Kansas State (19) 889
3. Oklahoma State (14) 829
4. Kansas (5) 772
5. Arizona (3) 762
6. Iowa State 661
7. West Virginia 581
8. UCF 551
9. Texas Tech 532
10. TCU 436
11. Colorado 400
12. Baylor 268
13. BYU 215
14. Cincinnati 196
15. Houston 157
16. Arizona State 141

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About as worthless as "take this as fact" declarations and predictions from a few posters on this board (actually any Baylor sports board) that are ever present in the bad times and hard to find in the good times after they have once again been a victim of the knee-jerk reaction syndrome and proven wrong.

Apparently, this site created this: https://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php

What? No explanation for Oklahoma State?

Married A Horn said:

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What? No explanation for Oklahoma State?

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Res ipsa loquitur

Just how bad is the Jordan Tyson news for Arizona State in the #Big12 Championship Game?

This is all you need to know:#ForksUp #Cyclones pic.twitter.com/qqqLQwF1cL

— Ten12 Podcast Network (@Ten12Network) December 2, 2024

Kenny Dillingham's halftime speech: "Twist the knife...No pity for the mother f***ing kitty."

🎥: @ASUFootball https://t.co/XlZgYaXnYa pic.twitter.com/2rHqzhJeu8

— Blake Niemann (@Blakes_Take2) December 4, 2024

Nick Saban delivers high praise to ASU football and picks the Sun Devils to win the Big 12 Championship over Iowa State. pic.twitter.com/rAXz1imtyA

— Blake Niemann (@Blakes_Take2) December 4, 2024