Thread for tracking BU portal activity...outgoing and incoming

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Bearknuckle
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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

maybe treat college sports like kind of like the GI Bill - you play full time, but earn a year's tuition for each season you play for that school.
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Bearknuckle said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

maybe treat college sports like kind of like the GI Bill - you play full time, but earn a year's tuition for each season you play for that school.

Not a bad thought.
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I guess the QB market dried up pretty quick. But to go from Auburn, to Baylor, to a FCS school? Yikes. I'm guessing his plan is to light it up in the lower division to get some field time in before parlaying that into a big money deal with a P4 in 2027?
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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

100%

No sane human would design the pro football farm league by attaching it to institutions of higher education and giving it a tax exemption.
Robert Wilson
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Bearknuckle said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

maybe treat college sports like kind of like the GI Bill - you play full time, but earn a year's tuition for each season you play for that school.

Interesting thought experiment.

Can you transfer it to your kids or a family member - say sibling or cousin or niece/nephew? (I kinda like that idea)

Or just go sell it on the open market to whoever can get into the school? (that one is probably a bit much)
Bearknuckle
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Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

maybe treat college sports like kind of like the GI Bill - you play full time, but earn a year's tuition for each season you play for that school.

Interesting thought experiment.

Can you transfer it to your kids or a family member - say sibling or cousin or niece/nephew? (I kinda like that idea)

Or just go sell it on the open market to whoever can get into the school? (that one is probably a bit much)

i guess it would probably be modeled on tuition exchange...for example, USC is one of Baylor's TE partners, but you only get the cost of Baylor's tuition, so vs USC's out-of-state tuition, Baylor's rate only pays for like 65% of the cost or whatever the numbers are...

Whatever entity ends up overseeing an eventual CBA could hold something like an escrow account that players build up over their 'college' career that they can then apply to whatever school they want. Allowing a player to transfer it to family member/dependent seems like it would sweeten the deal for the players.
Robert Wilson
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Bearknuckle said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

maybe treat college sports like kind of like the GI Bill - you play full time, but earn a year's tuition for each season you play for that school.

Interesting thought experiment.

Can you transfer it to your kids or a family member - say sibling or cousin or niece/nephew? (I kinda like that idea)

Or just go sell it on the open market to whoever can get into the school? (that one is probably a bit much)

i guess it would probably be modeled on tuition exchange...for example, USC is one of Baylor's TE partners, but you only get the cost of Baylor's tuition, so vs USC's out-of-state tuition, Baylor's rate only pays for like 65% of the cost or whatever the numbers are...

Whatever entity ends up overseeing an eventual CBA could hold something like an escrow account that players build up over their 'college' career that they can then apply to whatever school they want. Allowing a player to transfer it to family member/dependent seems like it would sweeten the deal for the players.


I like the idea of it just being Baylor tuition. You can go to Baylor for a year. Or your child can, or your sibling, cousin, nephew, etc. That increases the tie between the school/fanbase and the player.

I'll go ahead and say the quiet part out loud. Some of these athletes don't care about getting a 4 year degree, and for some of them it's not even a good fit. But they may have a family member that would be a great fit but for whom college feels unreachable until they get a gift like that.

I can see College Gameday running a special on how some football player's sister became the first person in her family to go to college and has a 4.0 in Biology on her way to being a doctor thanks to the tuition remission that her brother earned on his way to the NFL.
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Bigkahunaww said:

boognish_bear said:

This BREAKING NEWS!!!

According to Sources,

DJ LAGWAY IS GOING TO BAYLOR.

Paperwork is being drawn up to be signed.

Late push from Ole Miss amongst others, did not work.

DJ Lagway wants to be a Baylor Baylor.

#Football #CollegeFootball #Baylor #NIL #TransferPortal #RG3 #RobertGriffinIII #RGIII #recruitingusually means we got a big target...not sure if it's about Lagway or someone else





Evidently someone the Lagway family trusts is thinking Chambliss' eligibility lawsuit against the NCAA will prosper and be settled in his favor.
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Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

maybe treat college sports like kind of like the GI Bill - you play full time, but earn a year's tuition for each season you play for that school.

Interesting thought experiment.

Can you transfer it to your kids or a family member - say sibling or cousin or niece/nephew? (I kinda like that idea)

Or just go sell it on the open market to whoever can get into the school? (that one is probably a bit much)

i guess it would probably be modeled on tuition exchange...for example, USC is one of Baylor's TE partners, but you only get the cost of Baylor's tuition, so vs USC's out-of-state tuition, Baylor's rate only pays for like 65% of the cost or whatever the numbers are...

Whatever entity ends up overseeing an eventual CBA could hold something like an escrow account that players build up over their 'college' career that they can then apply to whatever school they want. Allowing a player to transfer it to family member/dependent seems like it would sweeten the deal for the players.


I like the idea of it just being Baylor tuition. You can go to Baylor for a year. Or your child can, or your sibling, cousin, nephew, etc. That increases the tie between the school/fanbase and the player.

I'll go ahead and say the quiet part out loud. Some of these athletes don't care about getting a 4 year degree, and for some of them it's not even a good fit. But they may have a family member that would be a great fit but for whom college feels unreachable until they get a gift like that.

I can see College Gameday running a special on how some football player's sister became the first person in her family to go to college and has a 4.0 in Biology on her way to being a doctor thanks to the tuition remission that her brother earned on his way to the NFL.

We're thinking exactly the same way on the transferability of the benefit from the player to another recipient.

As for the other side of things, I think it might have to follow the TE model and add the value of their school's tuition that season to their account, but they'd be able to use that account at any school that will admit them.

I say that because I believe that due to labor laws/regulations, and their histories of precedent regarding pro sports, players aren't going to lose the right to transfer during their 'college' careers, even if that process does finally get regulation it so desperately needs right now.

But honestly I think we're on to something here...
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Bearknuckle said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

maybe treat college sports like kind of like the GI Bill - you play full time, but earn a year's tuition for each season you play for that school.

Interesting thought experiment.

Can you transfer it to your kids or a family member - say sibling or cousin or niece/nephew? (I kinda like that idea)

Or just go sell it on the open market to whoever can get into the school? (that one is probably a bit much)

i guess it would probably be modeled on tuition exchange...for example, USC is one of Baylor's TE partners, but you only get the cost of Baylor's tuition, so vs USC's out-of-state tuition, Baylor's rate only pays for like 65% of the cost or whatever the numbers are...

Whatever entity ends up overseeing an eventual CBA could hold something like an escrow account that players build up over their 'college' career that they can then apply to whatever school they want. Allowing a player to transfer it to family member/dependent seems like it would sweeten the deal for the players.


I like the idea of it just being Baylor tuition. You can go to Baylor for a year. Or your child can, or your sibling, cousin, nephew, etc. That increases the tie between the school/fanbase and the player.

I'll go ahead and say the quiet part out loud. Some of these athletes don't care about getting a 4 year degree, and for some of them it's not even a good fit. But they may have a family member that would be a great fit but for whom college feels unreachable until they get a gift like that.

I can see College Gameday running a special on how some football player's sister became the first person in her family to go to college and has a 4.0 in Biology on her way to being a doctor thanks to the tuition remission that her brother earned on his way to the NFL.

We're thinking exactly the same way on the transferability of the benefit from the player to another recipient.

As for the other side of things, I think it might have to follow the TE model and add the value of their school's tuition that season to their account, but they'd be able to use that account at any school that will admit them.

I say that because I believe that due to labor laws/regulations, and their histories of precedent regarding pro sports, players aren't going to lose the right to transfer during their 'college' careers, even if that process does finally get regulation it so desperately needs right now.

But honestly I think we're on to something here...


This benefits actual schools immensely and probably hurts the Alabamas and West Virginia's of the world.

Imagine being able to gift your sister a 4 year ride to Stanford or Cal based on your time served as a player for those schools. Also may keep a player more loyal to stay and compete for a school knowing that his family member is depending on him for their education.

$500k to stay at Stanford and let your sibling accrue another year vs. $650k to transfer to Arizona State and forgo the opportunity at a global tier 1 education.
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Didn't realize this was a portal flip. Look at little ol' BU go. Wonder how much his flip was connected to Lagway.

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If we can finish in the Top 25 of portal recruiting classes i would say that's a massive W considering we are recruiting to a school with a 98% lame duck coach.



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boognish_bear said:

If we can finish in the Top 25 of portal recruiting classes i would say that's a massive W considering we are recruiting to a school with a 98% lame duck coach.



The bright side of all these unheralded guys we're taking is that they are HANGRY.

Give me someone fighting to get fed over someone who's grown sluggish from gluttony every day of the week: i.e. NFL players usually ball-out in a contract year, and then fade for a season or two once the money is guaranteed.
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LETS GOOO
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boognish_bear said:

Didn't realize this was a portal flip. Look at little ol' BU go. Wonder how much his flip was connected to Lagway.



Hmmm...flipped his commitment from Louisville and left them at that alter?

I thought we couldn't have that kind of character here.

"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
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boognish_bear said:




Play grown-up games, win grown-up prizes.
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Bearknuckle said:

boognish_bear said:

If we can finish in the Top 25 of portal recruiting classes i would say that's a massive W considering we are recruiting to a school with a 98% lame duck coach.



The bright side of all these unheralded guys we're taking is that they are HANGRY.

Give me someone fighting to get fed over someone who's grown sluggish from gluttony every day of the week: i.e. NFL players usually ball-out in a contract year, and then fade for a season or two once the money is guaranteed.


Amen to that! Human Nature 101. Back when HS recruiting actually mattered, I would say give me a pissed off 2 star any day of the week.
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BUATX2000 said:

Bearknuckle said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

Robert Wilson said:

Bearknuckle said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

boognish_bear said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

My least favorite thing about the NFL is free agency, but the only alternative to free agency is to let the owners control the market. So I decided to be OK with it so long as it had some kind of boundaries. At least you could get behind some players, and "franchise" others. There was some kind of plan to try to maintain a semblance of a "team."

What's going on in College athletics now is just stupid and makes it very hard to be a fan.


It's beyond dumb. As a big college football fan it's so damn disappointing what's become of the game.

Unfortunately....revenue and ratings continue to go up... so I don't really see any incentive for them to fix the issues.

What is becoming farcical is its connection to institutions of higher education. At this point, it is a historical anomaly, an anachronism.

maybe treat college sports like kind of like the GI Bill - you play full time, but earn a year's tuition for each season you play for that school.

Interesting thought experiment.

Can you transfer it to your kids or a family member - say sibling or cousin or niece/nephew? (I kinda like that idea)

Or just go sell it on the open market to whoever can get into the school? (that one is probably a bit much)

i guess it would probably be modeled on tuition exchange...for example, USC is one of Baylor's TE partners, but you only get the cost of Baylor's tuition, so vs USC's out-of-state tuition, Baylor's rate only pays for like 65% of the cost or whatever the numbers are...

Whatever entity ends up overseeing an eventual CBA could hold something like an escrow account that players build up over their 'college' career that they can then apply to whatever school they want. Allowing a player to transfer it to family member/dependent seems like it would sweeten the deal for the players.


I like the idea of it just being Baylor tuition. You can go to Baylor for a year. Or your child can, or your sibling, cousin, nephew, etc. That increases the tie between the school/fanbase and the player.

I'll go ahead and say the quiet part out loud. Some of these athletes don't care about getting a 4 year degree, and for some of them it's not even a good fit. But they may have a family member that would be a great fit but for whom college feels unreachable until they get a gift like that.

I can see College Gameday running a special on how some football player's sister became the first person in her family to go to college and has a 4.0 in Biology on her way to being a doctor thanks to the tuition remission that her brother earned on his way to the NFL.

We're thinking exactly the same way on the transferability of the benefit from the player to another recipient.

As for the other side of things, I think it might have to follow the TE model and add the value of their school's tuition that season to their account, but they'd be able to use that account at any school that will admit them.

I say that because I believe that due to labor laws/regulations, and their histories of precedent regarding pro sports, players aren't going to lose the right to transfer during their 'college' careers, even if that process does finally get regulation it so desperately needs right now.

But honestly I think we're on to something here...


This benefits actual schools immensely and probably hurts the Alabamas and West Virginia's of the world.

Imagine being able to gift your sister a 4 year ride to Stanford or Cal based on your time served as a player for those schools. Also may keep a player more loyal to stay and compete for a school knowing that his family member is depending on him for their education.

$500k to stay at Stanford and let your sibling accrue another year vs. $650k to transfer to Arizona State and forgo the opportunity at a global tier 1 education.

I think it's a nice incentive to stay in one place for a few years. Helps put a little something on the scale opposite the "straight cash, homey."
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CaliBear00 said:

I guess the QB market dried up pretty quick. But to go from Auburn, to Baylor, to a FCS school? Yikes. I'm guessing his plan is to light it up in the lower division to get some field time in before parlaying that into a big money deal with a P4 in 2027?


There wasn't a market for him. No film on him.

For 1/2 the athletes, the portal is a roach motel. They go in but the don't come out.
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boognish_bear said:

If we can finish in the Top 25 of portal recruiting classes i would say that's a massive W considering we are recruiting to a school with a 98% lame duck coach.






We recruit pretty well FWIW. Imagine what we could do with a coach not on the hot seat!
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

boognish_bear said:

If we can finish in the Top 25 of portal recruiting classes i would say that's a massive W considering we are recruiting to a school with a 98% lame duck coach.






We recruit pretty well FWIW. Imagine what we could do with a coach not on the hot seat!

Or one who put the best available players on the field at all times, not just those with greater longevity in the program.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

CaliBear00 said:

I guess the QB market dried up pretty quick. But to go from Auburn, to Baylor, to a FCS school? Yikes. I'm guessing his plan is to light it up in the lower division to get some field time in before parlaying that into a big money deal with a P4 in 2027?


There wasn't a market for him. No film on him.

For 1/2 the athletes, the portal is a roach motel. They go in but the don't come out.

I'm sorry but who are you talking about?
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Waco1947 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

CaliBear00 said:

I guess the QB market dried up pretty quick. But to go from Auburn, to Baylor, to a FCS school? Yikes. I'm guessing his plan is to light it up in the lower division to get some field time in before parlaying that into a big money deal with a P4 in 2027?


There wasn't a market for him. No film on him.

For 1/2 the athletes, the portal is a roach motel. They go in but the don't come out.

I'm sorry but who are you talking about?

Novosad.

Will Stein, the OC who yoinked him from us in 2023, just got the Kentucky HC gig. He elected not to bring Novosad along with him. There have been no reports of interest from any major program in Novosad.
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I said when he dumped us for Oregon I hope saves his money.

He made a bad decision. They will recruit the portal for the best available QB and screw anyone in the program.

Oregon is slime and I am glad IU ***** slapped them.
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boognish_bear said:



I doubt that there will be 2,500 daily transfer announcements each day for the next four days.

That means a TON of players will be cussing out their agents who prodded them, and then asking their current school if they can stay and have their scholarships restored.

How many of those will be Baylor players who do NOT transfer out after all??
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And do we even want them back?
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MRPorter7635 said:

And do we even want them back?


I suspect some of them we would still want if the process right but our players with significant playing experience have already found a home. Samu hasn't yet and might be worth keeping on roster for small $ if possible. There are thousands of players out there with little to no playing experience but the ones with proven experience are worth much more generally.
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MRPorter7635 said:

And do we even want them back?

If the option is the devil you know or a blind shot in the dark on people without film, I say let them come back unless they are toxic and you wanted them gone anyway
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Waco1947 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

CaliBear00 said:

I guess the QB market dried up pretty quick. But to go from Auburn, to Baylor, to a FCS school? Yikes. I'm guessing his plan is to light it up in the lower division to get some field time in before parlaying that into a big money deal with a P4 in 2027?


There wasn't a market for him. No film on him.

For 1/2 the athletes, the portal is a roach motel. They go in but the don't come out.

I'm sorry but who are you talking about?


Walker White. He landed at Central Arkansas.
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boognish_bear said:

If we can finish in the Top 25 of portal recruiting classes i would say that's a massive W considering we are recruiting to a school with a 98% lame duck coach.






Yeah but CDA ranks 144, so there's that.
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Waco1947 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

CaliBear00 said:

I guess the QB market dried up pretty quick. But to go from Auburn, to Baylor, to a FCS school? Yikes. I'm guessing his plan is to light it up in the lower division to get some field time in before parlaying that into a big money deal with a P4 in 2027?


There wasn't a market for him. No film on him.

For 1/2 the athletes, the portal is a roach motel. They go in but the don't come out.

I'm sorry but who are you talking about?

Walker White
 
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